Man Teaches God

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    1.The learned Alan Dershowitz has written “The Genesis of Justice,” in which he provides quite an interesting re-view of the definition of God. To begin, almost universally, to coin a term, there are three generally accepted words used to define God: Omnipotence, Omniscience, and Omnipresence

    “Omnipotence
    means all-powerful. Monotheistic theologians regard God as having supreme power. This means God can do what he wants. It means he is not subject to physical limitations like man is. Being omnipotent, God has power over wind, water, gravity, physics, etc. God's power is infinite, or limitless.

    Omniscience means all-knowing. God is all all-knowing in the sense that he is aware of the past, present, and future. Nothing takes him by surprise. His knowledge is total. He knows all that there is to know and all that can be known.

    Omnipresence: God is capable of being in all places at all times.” Omnipotent, Omniscient and Omnipresent God: Definition & Overview - Video & Lesson Transcript | Study.com





    2.Dershowitz, the lawyer, doesn’t hesitate to confront the Bible, or even God, in other than a familiar and less than reverential manner.

    “…like the bible itself Dershowitz is disarmingly undisposed to stand on ceremony from his grinning opening sentence would you give a young person a book whose heroes cheat lie steal murder and get away with it chances are you have and the substance of his argument is as invitingly expansive as his voice. [He notes:] I read genesis as an invitation to question everything even faith it taught me that faith is a process rather than a static mind set.

    .he builds his injustice leading to justice argument around ten compelling case studies from genesis his early chapter titles summarize the gist of the injustice he sees throughout the genesis narrative god threatens and backs down cain murders and walks god overreacts Overreacts and floods the world abraham defends the guilty and loses lot s daughters rape their father and save the world. abraham commits attempted murder and Is praised jacob deceives and gets deceived dinah Is raped and her brothers take revenge tamar becomes a prostitute and the progenitor of david joseph Is framed and then frames his brothers.” https://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/cgi....com/&httpsredir=1&article=3560&context=byusq




    Now….about God’s personality…..next.
     
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    How about those other humans that existed when Adam and Eve with their children were supposed to be the only humans on the planet..These people are the ones that Cain was exiled to be with after killing his brother.
     
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    Those were the Nephilim. Perhaps sons of another creator.
    That's why the Christian Bible and Yahwey himself "Worship no other Gods but me".
    There are other "similar" beings hence the need to "release Satan for a little while" after the 1000 years of Christs return.

    There some politics even in the spirit world, hence the war in Heaven and Michael kicking some angelic ass and Yahwey deporting them.1/3 of them. Perhaps hundreds of millions to billions ?
     
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    .....there was no Adam and Eve---you can't populate the Earth with only 1 set of parents --especially with the life expectancy/birth rates/etc what they were
     
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    What a frickin' soap opera...
     
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    3. In the Bible, God sets out to create mankind, and, one would assume based on the above, that He knew exactly what he was doing, what the result would be, and all the outcomes of his creation. The God that Dershowitz presents would be bored under such a view, sort of like reading books where you knew the last chapters in advance.



    4. And, since God infused his human creations with both intelligence, and with free will….anything could have occurred.

    Easy enough to document those attributes assigned to human beings: No knowledge before the fateful apple-eating?? Wrong. After all, God addressed the folks in the Garden of Eden, and how could He do so if they didn’t have the wherewithal to comprehend His instructions?





    5. God basically put up a no-trespassing sign, Genesis 2:17 16 And the Lord God commanded the man, “You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; 17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat from it you will certainly die.”

    Herein is proof that Adam had the ability to understand, and the free will to behave….or to trespass. If He hadn’t given free will, why suggest they might do something having been told not to.





    6. Law Professor Dershowitz looked at the penalty announced, death, and the actual sentence the folks got from God…..which was not death!

    “My favorite interpretation of God’s failure to carry out His first threat is that God himself was still learning about justice and injustice. The text of Genesis supports the view of an imperfect, learning God.”
    Dershowitz, “The Genesis Of Justice,” p. 40.



    More of Dershowitz’s astute argument ….next.
     
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    God and Law don’t mix in USA.
    That is a strength. Law is based on evidence.
     
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    Our laws, and the Constitution itself, is based on the Bible, you dunce.


    The Constitution provides for an observance of the Sabbath in its Presentment Clause, mandating that the President has ten days, excluding Sundays, to veto a bill lest it become binding.

    And the instrument was framed with a view to the Declaration, which unequivocally bestows gratitude on the God of the Bible for America's independence.


    1. The most quoted source was the Bible. Established in the original writings of our Founding Fathers we find that they discovered in Isaiah 33:22 the three branches of government: Isaiah 33:22 “For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; he will save us.” Here we see the judicial, the legislative and the executive branches. In Ezra 7:24 we see where they established the tax exempt status of the church: Ezra 7:24 “Also we certify you, that touching any of the priests and Levites, singers, porters, Nethinims, or ministers of this house of God, it shall not be lawful to impose toll, tribute, or custom, upon them.”

    When we look at our Constitution we see in Article 4 Section 4 that we are guaranteed a Republican form of government, that was found in Exodus 18 “Moreover thou shalt provide out of all the people able men, such as fear God, men of truth, hating covetousness; and place such over them, to be rulers of thousands, and rulers of hundreds, rulers of fifties, and rulers of tens:” This indicates that we are to choose, or elect God fearing men and women. Looking at Article 3 Section 3 we see almost word for word Deuteronomy 17:6: ‘No person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the testimony of two Witnesses. . .’ Deuteronomy 17:6 “At the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses. . .”. The next paragraph in Article 3 Section 3 refers to who should pay the price for treason. In England, they could punish the sons for the trespasses of the father, if the father died."
    Roger Anghis -- Bring America Back To Her Religious Roots, Part 7





    Soooo......you're a government school grad, huh?
     
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    Its amazing how OJ’s attorney is now the darling of Jumbo and other right wing morons.
     
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    So sorry, but this thread is way over your head.....

    Come back and join when we get around to which diet you're on this week.

    Have you tried the DRANO one yet?
     

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