Making progress, 40% of U.S. now allows carrying a gun without a permit.

[Auld Phart]

I hope you all lose your temper and shoot someone, better yet let you child or grandchild find your gun and shoot someone. I am sick of you gun freaks.

We're here. We're out. And we're proud.

Damn, now I gotta go look at some gun porn.

I think I'm going to see what I can get for a trade in on a new one.

A trade? Where, how and when? In the parking lot of a Gun Show Event with immediacy? or within the law?

Local gun store.

Posted on FB that he had some P320 in, looked it up, sounds like a dependable firearm, son in law says he's sorry he ever got rid of the one he had.

Never bought a firearm without going thru a background check, either at a gun store, or at a gun show.

Little early to be as drunk as you seem to be.

having some personal problems?

 

[Iceweasel]

What is next, allowing murder.

We are past that, "stand your ground" encourages deadly force.

No, some asshole attacking you is what encourages deadly force.

Spoken ^^^ with the authority of a gun freak. Having a gun in one's possession has an impact on their judgment, it gives some persons dutch courage, and thus some will go looking for trouble (Zimmerman style); go places they know may be dangerous; provoke violence when discretion is called for; or have Walter Mitty fantasies that they will be a hero for killing another person (judge or jury syndrome).

LE weeds out those who may manifest these and other red flags, during the hiring process and for a period of time under the tutelage of their FTO and superior officers. Civilians have no mentors, no use of force policy, are not trained in non lethal use of force methods, the use of a gun on a range; have not been evaluated by experience officers in the field; superior officers during hiring interviews or psychological evals - written and oral - before ever touching a service weapon.

This is a shall issue state and we are not having the problems you soil yourself over. Sorry.

 

[airplanemechanic]

Gotta love someone who says that carrying a gun changes their judgement, and then quotes Law Enforcement, who carries guns, as the ones responsible for weeding out bad people.

Cops kill more people every year than concealed carry permit holders do despite being outnumbered 1000 to one, so how the fuck do you justify this bullshit?

 

[Nosmo King]

What is next, allowing murder.

If you say you were 'standing your ground', then yes.

 

[Nosmo King]

If I felt that threatened in my day-to-day life that I needed to carry a gun, I'd carry a gun and screw the permit.

But I don't so I don't.

Great point. Do you imagine these gun enthusiasts really feel they are in imminent danger, or, in your opinion, do they just want to be the hero gunslinger?

 

[Wry Catcher]

What is next, allowing murder.

We are past that, "stand your ground" encourages deadly force.

No, some asshole attacking you is what encourages deadly force.

Spoken ^^^ with the authority of a gun freak. Having a gun in one's possession has an impact on their judgment, it gives some persons dutch courage, and thus some will go looking for trouble (Zimmerman style); go places they know may be dangerous; provoke violence when discretion is called for; or have Walter Mitty fantasies that they will be a hero for killing another person (judge or jury syndrome).

LE weeds out those who may manifest these and other red flags, during the hiring process and for a period of time under the tutelage of their FTO and superior officers. Civilians have no mentors, no use of force policy, are not trained in non lethal use of force methods, the use of a gun on a range; have not been evaluated by experience officers in the field; superior officers during hiring interviews or psychological evals - written and oral - before ever touching a service weapon.

Do you have a single credible shred of evidence to back up this pile of ridiculous bullshit you call a post?

A 32 year career in LE, more than half of that time as a supervisor or manager: five years as supervisor of the domestic violence unit; three years as training manager; three years as manager of Juvenile, three years managing Internal Affairs and doing the recruitment, vetting (back ground investigations) and recommending to the hiring authority those in my judgement should be given a conditional offer of employment, at which time the more expensive items (medical, psychological and 832 PC training at the academy) would be provided.

 

[airplanemechanic]

And your point is?

 

[Mr Natural]

If I felt that threatened in my day-to-day life that I needed to carry a gun, I'd carry a gun and screw the permit.

But I don't so I don't.

Great point. Do you imagine these gun enthusiasts really feel they are in imminent danger, or, in your opinion, do they just want to be the hero gunslinger?

Maybe those "Mean Streets" of flyover country are more dangerous than they lead us to believe they are.

 

[JimBowie1958]

What is next, allowing murder.

That you make an equivalency between allowing law abiding citizens to open carry on the one hand and murder on the other shows that you are a brain addled moron.

 

[JimBowie1958]

A fun freak is someone like 2aguy and others like him who believe guns are a panacea in the hands of all persons, when the facts state expressly such is a nostrum argued by charlatan's and those who profit from guns and ammo.

 

[Penelope]

Gotta love someone who says that carrying a gun changes their judgement, and then quotes Law Enforcement, who carries guns, as the ones responsible for weeding out bad people.

Cops kill more people every year than concealed carry permit holders do despite being outnumbered 1000 to one, so how the fuck do you justify this bullshit?

It sure dose change their judgement, instead of running or turning the other cheek, the maj. or those with a gun on them will feel more powerful and full of themselves. One does not carry a gun without the intention to use it when they feel threatened in anyway (physically or verbally).

 

[airplanemechanic]

Gotta love someone who says that carrying a gun changes their judgement, and then quotes Law Enforcement, who carries guns, as the ones responsible for weeding out bad people.

Cops kill more people every year than concealed carry permit holders do despite being outnumbered 1000 to one, so how the fuck do you justify this bullshit?

It sure dose change their judgement, instead of running or turning the other cheek, the maj. or those with a gun on them will feel more powerful and full of themselves. One does not carry a gun without the intention to use it when they feel threatened in anyway (physically or verbally).

Good. What's the point of carrying a gun if you're not going to use it to defend yourself?

 

[Penelope]

What is next, allowing murder.

That you make an equivalency between allowing law abiding citizens to open carry on the one hand and murder on the other shows that you are a brain addled moron.

What makes one an unlawful citizen. A split second of poor judgement ( you moron) or an accident which is the case with children . A gun changes people, whether you admit it or not.

Most law abiding citizens will say it accidently went off, or I just lost it for a minute, didn't mean to.

 

[Penelope]

Gotta love someone who says that carrying a gun changes their judgement, and then quotes Law Enforcement, who carries guns, as the ones responsible for weeding out bad people.

Cops kill more people every year than concealed carry permit holders do despite being outnumbered 1000 to one, so how the fuck do you justify this bullshit?

It sure dose change their judgement, instead of running or turning the other cheek, the maj. or those with a gun on them will feel more powerful and full of themselves. One does not carry a gun without the intention to use it when they feel threatened in anyway (physically or verbally).

Good. What's the point of carrying a gun if you're not going to use it to defend yourself?

You are defending yourself from another one carrying a gun. You are all the same.

 

[JimBowie1958]

What is next, allowing murder.

That you make an equivalency between allowing law abiding citizens to open carry on the one hand and murder on the other shows that you are a brain addled moron.

What makes one an unlawful citizen. A split second of poor judgement ( you moron) or an accident which is the case with children . A gun changes people, whether you admit it or not.

Most law abiding citizens will say it accidently went off, or I just lost it for a minute, didn't mean to.

That is pure Hollywood drama, not reality.

Anyone that has ever carried in public knows better than that nonsense. When you are in a bad situation, all the consequences of what you might do rush into your mind.

You are projecting what stupid apes do when they are mad, high and have a gun. That is not the law abiding.

 

[airplanemechanic]

Gotta love someone who says that carrying a gun changes their judgement, and then quotes Law Enforcement, who carries guns, as the ones responsible for weeding out bad people.

Cops kill more people every year than concealed carry permit holders do despite being outnumbered 1000 to one, so how the fuck do you justify this bullshit?

It sure dose change their judgement, instead of running or turning the other cheek, the maj. or those with a gun on them will feel more powerful and full of themselves. One does not carry a gun without the intention to use it when they feel threatened in anyway (physically or verbally).

Good. What's the point of carrying a gun if you're not going to use it to defend yourself?

You are defending yourself from another one carrying a gun. You are all the same.

So there is no difference to you between a law abiding citizen carrying a gun and a bank robber or carjacker carrying one?

Are you that fucking stupid? We're "the same" because we both have a gun?

 

[JimBowie1958]

You are defending yourself from another one carrying a gun. You are all the same.

So there is no difference to you between a law abiding citizen carrying a gun and a bank robber or carjacker carrying one?
Are you that fucking stupid? We're "the same" because we both have a gun?

yes, she is

 

[Penelope]

Gotta love someone who says that carrying a gun changes their judgement, and then quotes Law Enforcement, who carries guns, as the ones responsible for weeding out bad people.

Cops kill more people every year than concealed carry permit holders do despite being outnumbered 1000 to one, so how the fuck do you justify this bullshit?

It sure dose change their judgement, instead of running or turning the other cheek, the maj. or those with a gun on them will feel more powerful and full of themselves. One does not carry a gun without the intention to use it when they feel threatened in anyway (physically or verbally).

Good. What's the point of carrying a gun if you're not going to use it to defend yourself?

You are defending yourself from another one carrying a gun. You are all the same.

So there is no difference to you between a law abiding citizen carrying a gun and a bank robber or carjacker carrying one?

Are you that fucking stupid? We're "the same" because we both have a gun?

Really , are you going to be a hero all of a sudden, and shoot a bank robber and or a carjacker, are you crazy.

 

[airplanemechanic]

Gotta love someone who says that carrying a gun changes their judgement, and then quotes Law Enforcement, who carries guns, as the ones responsible for weeding out bad people.

Cops kill more people every year than concealed carry permit holders do despite being outnumbered 1000 to one, so how the fuck do you justify this bullshit?

It sure dose change their judgement, instead of running or turning the other cheek, the maj. or those with a gun on them will feel more powerful and full of themselves. One does not carry a gun without the intention to use it when they feel threatened in anyway (physically or verbally).

Good. What's the point of carrying a gun if you're not going to use it to defend yourself?

You are defending yourself from another one carrying a gun. You are all the same.

So there is no difference to you between a law abiding citizen carrying a gun and a bank robber or carjacker carrying one?

Are you that fucking stupid? We're "the same" because we both have a gun?

Really , are you going to be a hero all of a sudden, and shoot a bank robber and or a carjacker, are you crazy.

Not without a gun. Without a gun, I'd be a victim. I'd much rather be a hero than a victim. But people don't carry guns to be heros, they carry them to defend their own lives. If defending your own life is considered a "hero" to you, then yea, I'd be a hero.

 

[Skull Pilot]

We need to put a stop to the insanity. WW West . Got to get the Republicans out of office.

the wild west wasn't so wild
and people who legally carry concealed weapons don't shoot up the place every time someone annoys them