Making America Great Again: President Trump Seriously Looking At Ending Birthright Citizenship

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    Yep, the nut job has nothing else to do but throw shit out and get his base riled up and then pull back disappointing the suck asses once again.
     
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    Ok. Let’s do it .. retroactive !

    Which means overnight you eliminated basically all citizenship because most Americans citizenship is traced back to birthright .

    Ironically the only citizens left will be immigrants who naturalized and black People because of the 14th. I’m sure that’s what Trump and the cons want ! Lol.
     
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    I think if you are born here then you are here. The USA can accommodate that.
     
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    How about a show of hands . Who here DIDNT get their citizenship through birthright ?
     
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    BREAKING; Trump fires up leg humping drones with vapid rhetoric !!!!

    END OF STORY
     
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    "All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."

    Trumpybear and his imaginary pen again.
     
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    My family got bought in 1803. Been birthin citizens ever since.
     
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    There actually is no such thing as Birthright Citizenship. The 14th was written to stop The Southern Democrats from Depriving Their Former Slaves and Children of their Civil Rights, and mandated that the Children of Former Slaves become automatically Citizens.
    Former Slaves were under The Jurisdiction of The United States.

    Illegal Aliens are not, and are under The Jurisdiction of the country where they hold citizenship. Honestly President Trump does not have to do anything to stop Birthright Citizenship, because there is no such thing. He can simply over turn policy, and if challenged win in SCOTUS. Pretty much a slam dunk case.
     
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    so he's an idiot TWICE with one comment

    thanks, but we know that
     
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    In short the phrase “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof” excludes three and only three groups of people:

    • Children born to foreign diplomats here on diplomatic business, who have diplomatic immunity to US Law;

    • Children of members of an invading army that has occupied and controlled some part of US territory, born on that occupied area, who are obviously not subject to US Law (which has rarely happened in the US, although Guam was occupied during WWII, and parts of Alaska, and small parts of Maine during the War of 1812); and

    • Members of Native American tribes, subject to the jurisdiction of their tribal governments, who do not pay US taxes. (This was true when the 14th amendment was passed, but it no longer is. See section below on the act that changed it in 1924.)
    Any other person born in the proper US or in incorporated US territory is a citizen, no matter who his or her parents are or were. (The case is less clear for unincorporated US territory.)

    What is the meaning of “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof” in the 14th amendment?
     
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