Making America Great Again: President Trump Seriously Looking At Ending Birthright Citizenship

It's the next step in making America great again. Birthright Citizenship refers to Citizen parents, not Illegals. The 14th Amendment was only created for slaves after the civil war. It was not created for foreigners. Let's hear from the man who wrote the Citizenship clause himself, Senator John Jacob Howard:

"Every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. It settles the great question of citizenship and removes all doubt as to what persons are or are not citizens of the United States. This has long been a great desideratum in the jurisprudence and legislation of this country."

This understanding was reaffirmed by Senator Edward Cowan, who stated:

"[A foreigner in the United States] has a right to the protection of the laws; but he is not a citizen in the ordinary acceptance of the word..."

The phrase "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" was intended to exclude American-born persons from automatic citizenship whose allegiance to the United States was not complete.



President Trump Says He Is Still "Looking Seriously" at Ending Birthright Citizenship
You have no problem cherry picking the 14th amendment.

Is it twelve times easier to do compared to the 2nd amendment? That one was written tomsuppli,met the army with well regulated militias!

Haha...you poor souls can’t make the simplest distinctions.
The 2nd is beneficial for Americans
The 14th as currently imposed fucks Americans over and benefits wetbacks
The US Constitution was composed by The People of the US and intended to benefit The People of the US, it was never intended to benefit Mexico and fuck Americans.
Why does that suck for you?
 
It's the next step in making America great again. Birthright Citizenship refers to Citizen parents, not Illegals. The 14th Amendment was only created for slaves after the civil war. It was not created for foreigners. Let's hear from the man who wrote the Citizenship clause himself, Senator John Jacob Howard:

"Every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. It settles the great question of citizenship and removes all doubt as to what persons are or are not citizens of the United States. This has long been a great desideratum in the jurisprudence and legislation of this country."

This understanding was reaffirmed by Senator Edward Cowan, who stated:

"[A foreigner in the United States] has a right to the protection of the laws; but he is not a citizen in the ordinary acceptance of the word..."

The phrase "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" was intended to exclude American-born persons from automatic citizenship whose allegiance to the United States was not complete.



President Trump Says He Is Still "Looking Seriously" at Ending Birthright Citizenship
I can see granting US citizenship only to children who have one parent living here LEGALLY. That is easy enough to prove. However, using a term as fuzzy as "foreigners" is never going to cut it. By law, immigrants who WANT to become citizens must live in the US FIVE YEARS before applying for naturalization. They are foreigners who plan to become citizens and of course want their children to be, as well, since they will be raised here.

I agree that Chinese women who travel here on a tourist visa to have a baby and then fly back to China with a US citizen child is BULLSHIT. So is granting citizenship to the children of two illegals living in the US. The illegal shit has got to stop. I agree with that.

Trump has to be careful how that is done, though, in order to be fair. And I don't believe Trump can change that himself; it is written in law and needs to be changed by Congress, doesn't it?

The problem is less Congress than it was previous rulings on citizenship. That's what we need to do first; have it so the Supreme Court rules that anchor babies are not constitutionally protected.
 
It's the next step in making America great again. Birthright Citizenship refers to Citizen parents, not Illegals. The 14th Amendment was only created for slaves after the civil war. It was not created for foreigners. Let's hear from the man who wrote the Citizenship clause himself, Senator John Jacob Howard:

"Every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. It settles the great question of citizenship and removes all doubt as to what persons are or are not citizens of the United States. This has long been a great desideratum in the jurisprudence and legislation of this country."

This understanding was reaffirmed by Senator Edward Cowan, who stated:

"[A foreigner in the United States] has a right to the protection of the laws; but he is not a citizen in the ordinary acceptance of the word..."

The phrase "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" was intended to exclude American-born persons from automatic citizenship whose allegiance to the United States was not complete.



President Trump Says He Is Still "Looking Seriously" at Ending Birthright Citizenship
You have no problem cherry picking the 14th amendment.

Is it twelve times easier to do compared to the 2nd amendment? That one was written tomsuppli,met the army with well regulated militias!

Haha...you poor souls can’t make the simplest distinctions.
The 2nd is beneficial for Americans
The 14th as currently imposed fucks Americans over and benefits wetbacks
The US Constitution was composed by The People of the US and intended to benefit The People of the US, it was never intended to benefit Mexico and fuck Americans.
Why does that suck for you?
What a racist Nazi. Mexicans are hard working kind human beings.
 
It's the next step in making America great again. Birthright Citizenship refers to Citizen parents, not Illegals. The 14th Amendment was only created for slaves after the civil war. It was not created for foreigners. Let's hear from the man who wrote the Citizenship clause himself, Senator John Jacob Howard:

"Every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. It settles the great question of citizenship and removes all doubt as to what persons are or are not citizens of the United States. This has long been a great desideratum in the jurisprudence and legislation of this country."

This understanding was reaffirmed by Senator Edward Cowan, who stated:

"[A foreigner in the United States] has a right to the protection of the laws; but he is not a citizen in the ordinary acceptance of the word..."

The phrase "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" was intended to exclude American-born persons from automatic citizenship whose allegiance to the United States was not complete.



President Trump Says He Is Still "Looking Seriously" at Ending Birthright Citizenship
You have no problem cherry picking the 14th amendment.

Is it twelve times easier to do compared to the 2nd amendment? That one was written tomsuppli,met the army with well regulated militias!

Haha...you poor souls can’t make the simplest distinctions.
The 2nd is beneficial for Americans
The 14th as currently imposed fucks Americans over and benefits wetbacks
The US Constitution was composed by The People of the US and intended to benefit The People of the US, it was never intended to benefit Mexico and fuck Americans.
Why does that suck for you?
What a racist Nazi. Mexicans are hard working kind human beings.

I agree, with one caveat....Mexicans are awesome IN MEXICO....and staying in Mexico.
 
Yes they did, and they came here legally.

The US allows nearly a million people a year to become citizens of this great country. That's on top of all the generous VISA's and work permits we provide so outsiders have the ability to take advantage of everything we created. Name me one civilized country that people want to live that comes close to what we offer.

We are doing enough for outsiders. In fact we are doing more than enough. This is our country and everybody wants to come in. But like a great restaurant or great exhibit, you simply have to wait your turn, and you may never get in because of the high demand.


IMO, we are doing, and have done way too much. There is a point at which generosity becomes foolish and self destructive, and we passed that point long ago.

It's the "what have you done for me lately" stance that is so irritating. The problem is our generosity has spoiled the rest of the world, particularly south of us.

I listen to the Salem Broadcasting station a lot because they have pretty good hosts. They are constantly holding fund raisers for people in other countries to make their lives a little better. Salem is just one, there are hundreds if not thousands for private charities in this country that reach out to foreigners in need.

Does anybody really appreciate what we do for them? Hell no. It's usually people saying we aren't doing enough and we need to do much more.
Dont forget that the US doesnt give without taking. We have our hands on natural resources, markets, advantages because of our military might...we also fucked up lot of countries and that's why their citizens ome here. Dont act holly.

No, we have our hands on resources through negotiations with private companies, not the government. The only countries we fuck up are those who present some sort of thereat to us or our allies, and we don't owe anybody a thing because of it.
Hummm
Iraq invasion?
Vketnam ?
Central America?
Lybia?
Panama?
And. Countless coups and backing of dictators around the world? Isnr that so that the US installs puppets so its companies have easy access?
It is called modern day imperialism, we have bases all over the world for a reason.

You do realize oil is not domestic, don't you? Oil is a worldwide market. Trust me, I used to trade commodities years ago. I kind of understand this stuff. In fact much of the oil produced here is shipped overseas as well. Right now, the US is the world leader in energy exports.
 
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It's the next step in making America great again. Birthright Citizenship refers to Citizen parents, not Illegals. The 14th Amendment was only created for slaves after the civil war. It was not created for foreigners. Let's hear from the man who wrote the Citizenship clause himself, Senator John Jacob Howard:

"Every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. It settles the great question of citizenship and removes all doubt as to what persons are or are not citizens of the United States. This has long been a great desideratum in the jurisprudence and legislation of this country."

This understanding was reaffirmed by Senator Edward Cowan, who stated:

"[A foreigner in the United States] has a right to the protection of the laws; but he is not a citizen in the ordinary acceptance of the word..."

The phrase "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" was intended to exclude American-born persons from automatic citizenship whose allegiance to the United States was not complete.



President Trump Says He Is Still "Looking Seriously" at Ending Birthright Citizenship
You have no problem cherry picking the 14th amendment.

Is it twelve times easier to do compared to the 2nd amendment? That one was written tomsuppli,met the army with well regulated militias!

Haha...you poor souls can’t make the simplest distinctions.
The 2nd is beneficial for Americans
The 14th as currently imposed fucks Americans over and benefits wetbacks
The US Constitution was composed by The People of the US and intended to benefit The People of the US, it was never intended to benefit Mexico and fuck Americans.
Why does that suck for you?
What a racist Nazi. Mexicans are hard working kind human beings.

I agree, with one caveat....Mexicans are awesome IN MEXICO....and staying in Mexico.
You just don't like brown people. You racist Nazi monster.
 
Not directly a threat to US.


By that logic, Nazi Germany wasn't a direct threat to US. Should we have let them go at it?

The argument was that we only attack countries that were a threat to us. As you note, none were.

If that's your stance, then I suggest you reread post number 115 where I said "some kind of threat" not a direct threat which is what started this particular debate.

Sorry, fair enough, yes there was an imaginary threat.

Imaginary threat, huh? Then let me ask: we knew Bin Laden was running terrorist training camps in Afghanistan. We did nothing because it was not a direct threat to the US. Our government virtually laughed at the guy. Do you think we did the right thing?

We cannot wait until these "imaginary threats" become a direct threat because by then it's too late. On that note, you will not find one chess master that ever became a champion by only concentrating on the next move only. That's what amateur chess players do.

You are arguing to invade the entire world.

We armed OBL because of the idea you support. We funded the caves he hid in because of the ideas you support. He did what he did because of the ideas you support.

At the time, America was war exhausted. What our leaders did afterwards was get our enemies to kill our more hated enemies. Remember Saddam was once our buddy too.
 
It's the next step in making America great again. Birthright Citizenship refers to Citizen parents, not Illegals. The 14th Amendment was only created for slaves after the civil war. It was not created for foreigners. Let's hear from the man who wrote the Citizenship clause himself, Senator John Jacob Howard:

"Every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. It settles the great question of citizenship and removes all doubt as to what persons are or are not citizens of the United States. This has long been a great desideratum in the jurisprudence and legislation of this country."

This understanding was reaffirmed by Senator Edward Cowan, who stated:

"[A foreigner in the United States] has a right to the protection of the laws; but he is not a citizen in the ordinary acceptance of the word..."

The phrase "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" was intended to exclude American-born persons from automatic citizenship whose allegiance to the United States was not complete.



President Trump Says He Is Still "Looking Seriously" at Ending Birthright Citizenship
You have no problem cherry picking the 14th amendment.

Is it twelve times easier to do compared to the 2nd amendment? That one was written tomsuppli,met the army with well regulated militias!

Haha...you poor souls can’t make the simplest distinctions.
The 2nd is beneficial for Americans
The 14th as currently imposed fucks Americans over and benefits wetbacks
The US Constitution was composed by The People of the US and intended to benefit The People of the US, it was never intended to benefit Mexico and fuck Americans.
Why does that suck for you?
What a racist Nazi. Mexicans are hard working kind human beings.

I agree, with one caveat....Mexicans are awesome IN MEXICO....and staying in Mexico.
You just don't like brown people. You racist Nazi monster.

Negative...I hate all filthy subhumans...skin color is not a qualifier.
 
You have no problem cherry picking the 14th amendment.

Is it twelve times easier to do compared to the 2nd amendment? That one was written tomsuppli,met the army with well regulated militias!

Haha...you poor souls can’t make the simplest distinctions.
The 2nd is beneficial for Americans
The 14th as currently imposed fucks Americans over and benefits wetbacks
The US Constitution was composed by The People of the US and intended to benefit The People of the US, it was never intended to benefit Mexico and fuck Americans.
Why does that suck for you?
What a racist Nazi. Mexicans are hard working kind human beings.

I agree, with one caveat....Mexicans are awesome IN MEXICO....and staying in Mexico.
You just don't like brown people. You racist Nazi monster.

Negative...I hate all filthy subhumans...skin color is not a qualifier.
You should clean the pond scum off your own glass house. Nazi.
 
Haha...you poor souls can’t make the simplest distinctions.
The 2nd is beneficial for Americans
The 14th as currently imposed fucks Americans over and benefits wetbacks
The US Constitution was composed by The People of the US and intended to benefit The People of the US, it was never intended to benefit Mexico and fuck Americans.
Why does that suck for you?
What a racist Nazi. Mexicans are hard working kind human beings.

I agree, with one caveat....Mexicans are awesome IN MEXICO....and staying in Mexico.
You just don't like brown people. You racist Nazi monster.

Negative...I hate all filthy subhumans...skin color is not a qualifier.
You should clean the pond scum off your own glass house. Nazi.

Yep, in LibTardia, us law abiding, positive contributing, decent, moral, patriotic REAL Americans are the total pieces of shits of society...We get it.
 
What a racist Nazi. Mexicans are hard working kind human beings.

I agree, with one caveat....Mexicans are awesome IN MEXICO....and staying in Mexico.
You just don't like brown people. You racist Nazi monster.

Negative...I hate all filthy subhumans...skin color is not a qualifier.
You should clean the pond scum off your own glass house. Nazi.

Yep, in LibTardia, us law abiding, positive contributing, decent, moral, patriotic REAL Americans are the total pieces of shits of society...We get it.
Real Americans aren't Nazis who shoot up synagogues. You hate brown people, and Jews because they are better than you. Jealous Nazi.
 
It's the next step in making America great again. Birthright Citizenship refers to Citizen parents, not Illegals. The 14th Amendment was only created for slaves after the civil war. It was not created for foreigners. Let's hear from the man who wrote the Citizenship clause himself, Senator John Jacob Howard:

"Every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. It settles the great question of citizenship and removes all doubt as to what persons are or are not citizens of the United States. This has long been a great desideratum in the jurisprudence and legislation of this country."

This understanding was reaffirmed by Senator Edward Cowan, who stated:

"[A foreigner in the United States] has a right to the protection of the laws; but he is not a citizen in the ordinary acceptance of the word..."

The phrase "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" was intended to exclude American-born persons from automatic citizenship whose allegiance to the United States was not complete.



President Trump Says He Is Still "Looking Seriously" at Ending Birthright Citizenship

He can’t.

He’s just playing to his xenophobic base.
 
The argument was that we only attack countries that were a threat to us. As you note, none were.

If that's your stance, then I suggest you reread post number 115 where I said "some kind of threat" not a direct threat which is what started this particular debate.

Sorry, fair enough, yes there was an imaginary threat.

Imaginary threat, huh? Then let me ask: we knew Bin Laden was running terrorist training camps in Afghanistan. We did nothing because it was not a direct threat to the US. Our government virtually laughed at the guy. Do you think we did the right thing?

We cannot wait until these "imaginary threats" become a direct threat because by then it's too late. On that note, you will not find one chess master that ever became a champion by only concentrating on the next move only. That's what amateur chess players do.

You are arguing to invade the entire world.

We armed OBL because of the idea you support. We funded the caves he hid in because of the ideas you support. He did what he did because of the ideas you support.

At the time, America was war exhausted. What our leaders did afterwards was get our enemies to kill our more hated enemies. Remember Saddam was once our buddy too.

We have no idea who is who. It's why we armed those who ended up using those arms against us.
 
Real Americans aren't Nazis who shoot up synagogues.

Real Americans aren't commies who go to a baseball practice and try to kill all the Republican congress people either.
What is wrong with communism? America would be more educated, and civilized as a communist country. Communism helped turn Russia from a peasantry antisemite country of drunken illiterates into a superpower. America is filled with antisemitic Nazis. Russia doesn't kill Jews at their synagogues today, Nazi Americans still do.
 
You just don't like brown people.

Who does? :laughing0301:
Brown people are smarter than Nazi trailer trash whites. That is why brown people voted against Trump. You Nazis don't understand.

If people of color are so smart, why are they always trying to move in next to whitie all the time?
If white people are so smart? Why was Europe so backwards? While Jewish people were writing, and smelting iron? Whites were living in caves, and eating eat other.
 

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