Making America Great Again: President Trump Seriously Looking At Ending Birthright Citizenship

[The Original Tree]

It's the next step in making America great again. Birthright Citizenship refers to Citizen parents, not Illegals. The 14th Amendment was only created for slaves after the civil war. It was not created for foreigners. Let's hear from the man who wrote the Citizenship clause himself, Senator John Jacob Howard:

"Every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. It settles the great question of citizenship and removes all doubt as to what persons are or are not citizens of the United States. This has long been a great desideratum in the jurisprudence and legislation of this country."

This understanding was reaffirmed by Senator Edward Cowan, who stated:

"[A foreigner in the United States] has a right to the protection of the laws; but he is not a citizen in the ordinary acceptance of the word..."

The phrase "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" was intended to exclude American-born persons from automatic citizenship whose allegiance to the United States was not complete.



President Trump Says He Is Still "Looking Seriously" at Ending Birthright Citizenship

There actually is no such thing as Birthright Citizenship. The 14th was written to stop The Southern Democrats from Depriving Their Former Slaves and Children of their Civil Rights, and mandated that the Children of Former Slaves become automatically Citizens.
Former Slaves were under The Jurisdiction of The United States.

Illegal Aliens are not, and are under The Jurisdiction of the country where they hold citizenship. Honestly President Trump does not have to do anything to stop Birthright Citizenship, because there is no such thing. He can simply over turn policy, and if challenged win in SCOTUS. Pretty much a slam dunk case.

In short the phrase “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof” excludes three and only three groups of people:

• Children born to foreign diplomats here on diplomatic business, who have diplomatic immunity to US Law;
  
  
• Children of members of an invading army that has occupied and controlled some part of US territory, born on that occupied area, who are obviously not subject to US Law (which has rarely happened in the US, although Guam was occupied during WWII, and parts of Alaska, and small parts of Maine during the War of 1812); and
  
  
• Members of Native American tribes, subject to the jurisdiction of their tribal governments, who do not pay US taxes. (This was true when the 14th amendment was passed, but it no longer is. See section below on the act that changed it in 1924.)

Any other person born in the proper US or in incorporated US territory is a citizen, no matter who his or her parents are or were. (The case is less clear for unincorporated US territory.)

What is the meaning of “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof” in the 14th amendment?

Wrong. Illegal Aliens are not Subject to US Jurisdiction. This is why they can be deported simply for missing a Court date.
It's why they can be held in detention simply because they are here.

It's why Liberals do not criminally prosecute them in a Court of Law and simply release them, and refuse to notify ICE when they do, because ICE can pick them up detain them and deport them at will.

When a US Citizen Commits The Same Crimes, he goes to jail, has to make bail or rot in jail until his court date, and then gets sentenced.

 

[pknopp]

It's the next step in making America great again. Birthright Citizenship refers to Citizen parents, not Illegals. The 14th Amendment was only created for slaves after the civil war. It was not created for foreigners. Let's hear from the man who wrote the Citizenship clause himself, Senator John Jacob Howard:

"Every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. It settles the great question of citizenship and removes all doubt as to what persons are or are not citizens of the United States. This has long been a great desideratum in the jurisprudence and legislation of this country."

This understanding was reaffirmed by Senator Edward Cowan, who stated:

"[A foreigner in the United States] has a right to the protection of the laws; but he is not a citizen in the ordinary acceptance of the word..."

The phrase "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" was intended to exclude American-born persons from automatic citizenship whose allegiance to the United States was not complete.



President Trump Says He Is Still "Looking Seriously" at Ending Birthright Citizenship

There actually is no such thing as Birthright Citizenship. The 14th was written to stop The Southern Democrats from Depriving Their Former Slaves and Children of their Civil Rights, and mandated that the Children of Former Slaves become automatically Citizens.
Former Slaves were under The Jurisdiction of The United States.

Illegal Aliens are not, and are under The Jurisdiction of the country where they hold citizenship. Honestly President Trump does not have to do anything to stop Birthright Citizenship, because there is no such thing. He can simply over turn policy, and if challenged win in SCOTUS. Pretty much a slam dunk case.

In short the phrase “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof” excludes three and only three groups of people:

• Children born to foreign diplomats here on diplomatic business, who have diplomatic immunity to US Law;
  
  
• Children of members of an invading army that has occupied and controlled some part of US territory, born on that occupied area, who are obviously not subject to US Law (which has rarely happened in the US, although Guam was occupied during WWII, and parts of Alaska, and small parts of Maine during the War of 1812); and
  
  
• Members of Native American tribes, subject to the jurisdiction of their tribal governments, who do not pay US taxes. (This was true when the 14th amendment was passed, but it no longer is. See section below on the act that changed it in 1924.)

Any other person born in the proper US or in incorporated US territory is a citizen, no matter who his or her parents are or were. (The case is less clear for unincorporated US territory.)

What is the meaning of “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof” in the 14th amendment?

Wrong. Illegal Aliens are not Subject to US Jurisdiction. This is why they can be deported simply for missing a Court date.
It's why they can be held in detention simply because they are here.

The Constitution defines that. ie: Subject to the Jusrisdiction.

 

[theHawk]

I'm in! It may take a constitutional amendment to to do.

It shouldn’t, there is no law declaring birth right citizenship. It’s yet another myth enabled by radicals in courts.

 

[HenryBHough]

It would help if everyone, no matter where born or two whom born, had to pass a test to become a citizen. That would forever eliminate Democrats. Because those who might be able to fake their way through the test already don't want to be Americans.

 

[The Original Tree]

It's the next step in making America great again. Birthright Citizenship refers to Citizen parents, not Illegals. The 14th Amendment was only created for slaves after the civil war. It was not created for foreigners. Let's hear from the man who wrote the Citizenship clause himself, Senator John Jacob Howard:

"Every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. It settles the great question of citizenship and removes all doubt as to what persons are or are not citizens of the United States. This has long been a great desideratum in the jurisprudence and legislation of this country."

This understanding was reaffirmed by Senator Edward Cowan, who stated:

"[A foreigner in the United States] has a right to the protection of the laws; but he is not a citizen in the ordinary acceptance of the word..."

The phrase "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" was intended to exclude American-born persons from automatic citizenship whose allegiance to the United States was not complete.



President Trump Says He Is Still "Looking Seriously" at Ending Birthright Citizenship

There actually is no such thing as Birthright Citizenship. The 14th was written to stop The Southern Democrats from Depriving Their Former Slaves and Children of their Civil Rights, and mandated that the Children of Former Slaves become automatically Citizens.
Former Slaves were under The Jurisdiction of The United States.

Illegal Aliens are not, and are under The Jurisdiction of the country where they hold citizenship. Honestly President Trump does not have to do anything to stop Birthright Citizenship, because there is no such thing. He can simply over turn policy, and if challenged win in SCOTUS. Pretty much a slam dunk case.

In short the phrase “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof” excludes three and only three groups of people:

• Children born to foreign diplomats here on diplomatic business, who have diplomatic immunity to US Law;
  
  
• Children of members of an invading army that has occupied and controlled some part of US territory, born on that occupied area, who are obviously not subject to US Law (which has rarely happened in the US, although Guam was occupied during WWII, and parts of Alaska, and small parts of Maine during the War of 1812); and
  
  
• Members of Native American tribes, subject to the jurisdiction of their tribal governments, who do not pay US taxes. (This was true when the 14th amendment was passed, but it no longer is. See section below on the act that changed it in 1924.)

Any other person born in the proper US or in incorporated US territory is a citizen, no matter who his or her parents are or were. (The case is less clear for unincorporated US territory.)

What is the meaning of “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof” in the 14th amendment?

Wrong. Illegal Aliens are not Subject to US Jurisdiction. This is why they can be deported simply for missing a Court date.
It's why they can be held in detention simply because they are here.

The Constitution defines that. ie: Subject to the Jusrisdiction.

Illegal Aliens are Subject to the Jurisdiction where they hold Citizenship.

That is what "Subject To The Jurisdiction Means" You have legal status in the country you are in. Or your Legal Status is in another country.

Illegal Aliens have no Legal Status in America, and that is why they are dealt with through Immigration & Naturalization Law, which has different standards and policies etc. than US Code.

 

[pknopp]

It's the next step in making America great again. Birthright Citizenship refers to Citizen parents, not Illegals. The 14th Amendment was only created for slaves after the civil war. It was not created for foreigners. Let's hear from the man who wrote the Citizenship clause himself, Senator John Jacob Howard:

"Every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. It settles the great question of citizenship and removes all doubt as to what persons are or are not citizens of the United States. This has long been a great desideratum in the jurisprudence and legislation of this country."

This understanding was reaffirmed by Senator Edward Cowan, who stated:

"[A foreigner in the United States] has a right to the protection of the laws; but he is not a citizen in the ordinary acceptance of the word..."

The phrase "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" was intended to exclude American-born persons from automatic citizenship whose allegiance to the United States was not complete.



President Trump Says He Is Still "Looking Seriously" at Ending Birthright Citizenship

There actually is no such thing as Birthright Citizenship. The 14th was written to stop The Southern Democrats from Depriving Their Former Slaves and Children of their Civil Rights, and mandated that the Children of Former Slaves become automatically Citizens.
Former Slaves were under The Jurisdiction of The United States.

Illegal Aliens are not, and are under The Jurisdiction of the country where they hold citizenship. Honestly President Trump does not have to do anything to stop Birthright Citizenship, because there is no such thing. He can simply over turn policy, and if challenged win in SCOTUS. Pretty much a slam dunk case.

In short the phrase “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof” excludes three and only three groups of people:

• Children born to foreign diplomats here on diplomatic business, who have diplomatic immunity to US Law;
  
  
• Children of members of an invading army that has occupied and controlled some part of US territory, born on that occupied area, who are obviously not subject to US Law (which has rarely happened in the US, although Guam was occupied during WWII, and parts of Alaska, and small parts of Maine during the War of 1812); and
  
  
• Members of Native American tribes, subject to the jurisdiction of their tribal governments, who do not pay US taxes. (This was true when the 14th amendment was passed, but it no longer is. See section below on the act that changed it in 1924.)

Any other person born in the proper US or in incorporated US territory is a citizen, no matter who his or her parents are or were. (The case is less clear for unincorporated US territory.)

What is the meaning of “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof” in the 14th amendment?

Wrong. Illegal Aliens are not Subject to US Jurisdiction. This is why they can be deported simply for missing a Court date.
It's why they can be held in detention simply because they are here.

The Constitution defines that. ie: Subject to the Jusrisdiction.

Illegal Aliens are Subject to the Jurisdiction where they hold Citizenship.

That is what "Subject To The Jurisdiction Means" You have legal status in the country you are in. Or your Legal Status is in another country.

Illegal Aliens have no Legal Status in America, and that is why they are dealt with through Immigration & Naturalization Law, which has different standards and policies etc. than US Code.

LOL, they most certainly do. It's why the courts are so backed up.

 

[BlindBoo]

It's the next step in making America great again. Birthright Citizenship refers to Citizen parents, not Illegals. The 14th Amendment was only created for slaves after the civil war. It was not created for foreigners. Let's hear from the man who wrote the Citizenship clause himself, Senator John Jacob Howard:

"Every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. It settles the great question of citizenship and removes all doubt as to what persons are or are not citizens of the United States. This has long been a great desideratum in the jurisprudence and legislation of this country."

This understanding was reaffirmed by Senator Edward Cowan, who stated:

"[A foreigner in the United States] has a right to the protection of the laws; but he is not a citizen in the ordinary acceptance of the word..."

The phrase "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" was intended to exclude American-born persons from automatic citizenship whose allegiance to the United States was not complete.



President Trump Says He Is Still "Looking Seriously" at Ending Birthright Citizenship

There actually is no such thing as Birthright Citizenship. The 14th was written to stop The Southern Democrats from Depriving Their Former Slaves and Children of their Civil Rights, and mandated that the Children of Former Slaves become automatically Citizens.
Former Slaves were under The Jurisdiction of The United States.

Illegal Aliens are not, and are under The Jurisdiction of the country where they hold citizenship. Honestly President Trump does not have to do anything to stop Birthright Citizenship, because there is no such thing. He can simply over turn policy, and if challenged win in SCOTUS. Pretty much a slam dunk case.

In short the phrase “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof” excludes three and only three groups of people:

• Children born to foreign diplomats here on diplomatic business, who have diplomatic immunity to US Law;
  
  
• Children of members of an invading army that has occupied and controlled some part of US territory, born on that occupied area, who are obviously not subject to US Law (which has rarely happened in the US, although Guam was occupied during WWII, and parts of Alaska, and small parts of Maine during the War of 1812); and
  
  
• Members of Native American tribes, subject to the jurisdiction of their tribal governments, who do not pay US taxes. (This was true when the 14th amendment was passed, but it no longer is. See section below on the act that changed it in 1924.)

Any other person born in the proper US or in incorporated US territory is a citizen, no matter who his or her parents are or were. (The case is less clear for unincorporated US territory.)

What is the meaning of “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof” in the 14th amendment?

Wrong. Illegal Aliens are not Subject to US Jurisdiction. This is why they can be deported simply for missing a Court date.
It's why they can be held in detention simply because they are here.

The Constitution defines that. ie: Subject to the Jusrisdiction.

Illegal Aliens are Subject to the Jurisdiction where they hold Citizenship.

That is what "Subject To The Jurisdiction Means" You have legal status in the country you are in. Or your Legal Status is in another country.

Illegal Aliens have no Legal Status in America, and that is why they are dealt with through Immigration & Naturalization Law, which has different standards and policies etc. than US Code.

So resident and undocumented aliens are immune to our laws like diplomats?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

It's the next step in making America great again. Birthright Citizenship refers to Citizen parents, not Illegals. The 14th Amendment was only created for slaves after the civil war. It was not created for foreigners. Let's hear from the man who wrote the Citizenship clause himself, Senator John Jacob Howard:

"Every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. It settles the great question of citizenship and removes all doubt as to what persons are or are not citizens of the United States. This has long been a great desideratum in the jurisprudence and legislation of this country."

This understanding was reaffirmed by Senator Edward Cowan, who stated:

"[A foreigner in the United States] has a right to the protection of the laws; but he is not a citizen in the ordinary acceptance of the word..."

The phrase "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" was intended to exclude American-born persons from automatic citizenship whose allegiance to the United States was not complete.



President Trump Says He Is Still "Looking Seriously" at Ending Birthright Citizenship

There actually is no such thing as Birthright Citizenship. The 14th was written to stop The Southern Democrats from Depriving Their Former Slaves and Children of their Civil Rights, and mandated that the Children of Former Slaves become automatically Citizens.
Former Slaves were under The Jurisdiction of The United States.

Illegal Aliens are not, and are under The Jurisdiction of the country where they hold citizenship. Honestly President Trump does not have to do anything to stop Birthright Citizenship, because there is no such thing. He can simply over turn policy, and if challenged win in SCOTUS. Pretty much a slam dunk case.

In short the phrase “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof” excludes three and only three groups of people:

• Children born to foreign diplomats here on diplomatic business, who have diplomatic immunity to US Law;
  
  
• Children of members of an invading army that has occupied and controlled some part of US territory, born on that occupied area, who are obviously not subject to US Law (which has rarely happened in the US, although Guam was occupied during WWII, and parts of Alaska, and small parts of Maine during the War of 1812); and
  
  
• Members of Native American tribes, subject to the jurisdiction of their tribal governments, who do not pay US taxes. (This was true when the 14th amendment was passed, but it no longer is. See section below on the act that changed it in 1924.)

Any other person born in the proper US or in incorporated US territory is a citizen, no matter who his or her parents are or were. (The case is less clear for unincorporated US territory.)

What is the meaning of “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof” in the 14th amendment?

Wrong. Illegal Aliens are not Subject to US Jurisdiction. This is why they can be deported simply for missing a Court date.
It's why they can be held in detention simply because they are here.

The Constitution defines that. ie: Subject to the Jusrisdiction.

Wrong.

The 14th Amendment to the United States Constitution - Fourteenth Amendment - anchor babies birthright citizenship - interpretation and misinterpretation - US Constitution

 

[pknopp]

It's the next step in making America great again. Birthright Citizenship refers to Citizen parents, not Illegals. The 14th Amendment was only created for slaves after the civil war. It was not created for foreigners. Let's hear from the man who wrote the Citizenship clause himself, Senator John Jacob Howard:

"Every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. It settles the great question of citizenship and removes all doubt as to what persons are or are not citizens of the United States. This has long been a great desideratum in the jurisprudence and legislation of this country."

This understanding was reaffirmed by Senator Edward Cowan, who stated:

"[A foreigner in the United States] has a right to the protection of the laws; but he is not a citizen in the ordinary acceptance of the word..."

The phrase "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" was intended to exclude American-born persons from automatic citizenship whose allegiance to the United States was not complete.



President Trump Says He Is Still "Looking Seriously" at Ending Birthright Citizenship

There actually is no such thing as Birthright Citizenship. The 14th was written to stop The Southern Democrats from Depriving Their Former Slaves and Children of their Civil Rights, and mandated that the Children of Former Slaves become automatically Citizens.
Former Slaves were under The Jurisdiction of The United States.

Illegal Aliens are not, and are under The Jurisdiction of the country where they hold citizenship. Honestly President Trump does not have to do anything to stop Birthright Citizenship, because there is no such thing. He can simply over turn policy, and if challenged win in SCOTUS. Pretty much a slam dunk case.

In short the phrase “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof” excludes three and only three groups of people:

• Children born to foreign diplomats here on diplomatic business, who have diplomatic immunity to US Law;
  
  
• Children of members of an invading army that has occupied and controlled some part of US territory, born on that occupied area, who are obviously not subject to US Law (which has rarely happened in the US, although Guam was occupied during WWII, and parts of Alaska, and small parts of Maine during the War of 1812); and
  
  
• Members of Native American tribes, subject to the jurisdiction of their tribal governments, who do not pay US taxes. (This was true when the 14th amendment was passed, but it no longer is. See section below on the act that changed it in 1924.)

Any other person born in the proper US or in incorporated US territory is a citizen, no matter who his or her parents are or were. (The case is less clear for unincorporated US territory.)

What is the meaning of “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof” in the 14th amendment?

Wrong. Illegal Aliens are not Subject to US Jurisdiction. This is why they can be deported simply for missing a Court date.
It's why they can be held in detention simply because they are here.

The Constitution defines that. ie: Subject to the Jusrisdiction.

Wrong.

The 14th Amendment to the United States Constitution - Fourteenth Amendment - anchor babies birthright citizenship - interpretation and misinterpretation - US Constitution

Fred Elbel is anti-immigrant.

 

[The Original Tree]

It's the next step in making America great again. Birthright Citizenship refers to Citizen parents, not Illegals. The 14th Amendment was only created for slaves after the civil war. It was not created for foreigners. Let's hear from the man who wrote the Citizenship clause himself, Senator John Jacob Howard:

"Every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. It settles the great question of citizenship and removes all doubt as to what persons are or are not citizens of the United States. This has long been a great desideratum in the jurisprudence and legislation of this country."

This understanding was reaffirmed by Senator Edward Cowan, who stated:

"[A foreigner in the United States] has a right to the protection of the laws; but he is not a citizen in the ordinary acceptance of the word..."

The phrase "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" was intended to exclude American-born persons from automatic citizenship whose allegiance to the United States was not complete.



President Trump Says He Is Still "Looking Seriously" at Ending Birthright Citizenship

There actually is no such thing as Birthright Citizenship. The 14th was written to stop The Southern Democrats from Depriving Their Former Slaves and Children of their Civil Rights, and mandated that the Children of Former Slaves become automatically Citizens.
Former Slaves were under The Jurisdiction of The United States.

Illegal Aliens are not, and are under The Jurisdiction of the country where they hold citizenship. Honestly President Trump does not have to do anything to stop Birthright Citizenship, because there is no such thing. He can simply over turn policy, and if challenged win in SCOTUS. Pretty much a slam dunk case.

In short the phrase “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof” excludes three and only three groups of people:

• Children born to foreign diplomats here on diplomatic business, who have diplomatic immunity to US Law;
  
  
• Children of members of an invading army that has occupied and controlled some part of US territory, born on that occupied area, who are obviously not subject to US Law (which has rarely happened in the US, although Guam was occupied during WWII, and parts of Alaska, and small parts of Maine during the War of 1812); and
  
  
• Members of Native American tribes, subject to the jurisdiction of their tribal governments, who do not pay US taxes. (This was true when the 14th amendment was passed, but it no longer is. See section below on the act that changed it in 1924.)

Any other person born in the proper US or in incorporated US territory is a citizen, no matter who his or her parents are or were. (The case is less clear for unincorporated US territory.)

What is the meaning of “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof” in the 14th amendment?

Wrong. Illegal Aliens are not Subject to US Jurisdiction. This is why they can be deported simply for missing a Court date.
It's why they can be held in detention simply because they are here.

The Constitution defines that. ie: Subject to the Jusrisdiction.

Wrong.

The 14th Amendment to the United States Constitution - Fourteenth Amendment - anchor babies birthright citizenship - interpretation and misinterpretation - US Constitution

The whole Anchor Baby Myth was created by The Democrat Party who have implemented a long term strategy of importing illegal immigrants in to their states and districts to bolster their populations, falsely acquire a larger share of Federal Dollars, and Game The System and gather to themselves an unfair share of Representatives in Congress.

The 14th Amendment was written to stop The Southern Democrat States from Discriminating against The Children of their Former Slaves and declared them US Citizens via The Constitution so that they could not be denied their rights by The Bigoted Democrat Party.

 

[Timmy]

It's the next step in making America great again. Birthright Citizenship refers to Citizen parents, not Illegals. The 14th Amendment was only created for slaves after the civil war. It was not created for foreigners. Let's hear from the man who wrote the Citizenship clause himself, Senator John Jacob Howard:

"Every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. It settles the great question of citizenship and removes all doubt as to what persons are or are not citizens of the United States. This has long been a great desideratum in the jurisprudence and legislation of this country."

This understanding was reaffirmed by Senator Edward Cowan, who stated:

"[A foreigner in the United States] has a right to the protection of the laws; but he is not a citizen in the ordinary acceptance of the word..."

The phrase "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" was intended to exclude American-born persons from automatic citizenship whose allegiance to the United States was not complete.



President Trump Says He Is Still "Looking Seriously" at Ending Birthright Citizenship

There actually is no such thing as Birthright Citizenship. The 14th was written to stop The Southern Democrats from Depriving Their Former Slaves and Children of their Civil Rights, and mandated that the Children of Former Slaves become automatically Citizens.
Former Slaves were under The Jurisdiction of The United States.

Illegal Aliens are not, and are under The Jurisdiction of the country where they hold citizenship. Honestly President Trump does not have to do anything to stop Birthright Citizenship, because there is no such thing. He can simply over turn policy, and if challenged win in SCOTUS. Pretty much a slam dunk case.

In short the phrase “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof” excludes three and only three groups of people:

• Children born to foreign diplomats here on diplomatic business, who have diplomatic immunity to US Law;
  
  
• Children of members of an invading army that has occupied and controlled some part of US territory, born on that occupied area, who are obviously not subject to US Law (which has rarely happened in the US, although Guam was occupied during WWII, and parts of Alaska, and small parts of Maine during the War of 1812); and
  
  
• Members of Native American tribes, subject to the jurisdiction of their tribal governments, who do not pay US taxes. (This was true when the 14th amendment was passed, but it no longer is. See section below on the act that changed it in 1924.)

Any other person born in the proper US or in incorporated US territory is a citizen, no matter who his or her parents are or were. (The case is less clear for unincorporated US territory.)

What is the meaning of “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof” in the 14th amendment?

Wrong. Illegal Aliens are not Subject to US Jurisdiction. This is why they can be deported simply for missing a Court date.
It's why they can be held in detention simply because they are here.

It's why Liberals do not criminally prosecute them in a Court of Law and simply release them, and refuse to notify ICE when they do, because ICE can pick them up detain them and deport them at will.

When a US Citizen Commits The Same Crimes, he goes to jail, has to make bail or rot in jail until his court date, and then gets sentenced.

For once put some thought into your stupid ideas . The only illegals you can charge are those who entered without inspection . That’s about 1/2 of illegals .

Then you are charging them with a Fed crime . Which opens up all kinds of constitutional protections (free lawyers for anyone ) . They will then make bail and spend years waiting trail cause you clogged up the Fed courts. And if found guilty then what .? Put them in jail? Ever consider costs of all this?

It’s way easier to just deport them .

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

There actually is no such thing as Birthright Citizenship. The 14th was written to stop The Southern Democrats from Depriving Their Former Slaves and Children of their Civil Rights, and mandated that the Children of Former Slaves become automatically Citizens.
Former Slaves were under The Jurisdiction of The United States.

Illegal Aliens are not, and are under The Jurisdiction of the country where they hold citizenship. Honestly President Trump does not have to do anything to stop Birthright Citizenship, because there is no such thing. He can simply over turn policy, and if challenged win in SCOTUS. Pretty much a slam dunk case.

In short the phrase “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof” excludes three and only three groups of people:

• Children born to foreign diplomats here on diplomatic business, who have diplomatic immunity to US Law;
  
  
• Children of members of an invading army that has occupied and controlled some part of US territory, born on that occupied area, who are obviously not subject to US Law (which has rarely happened in the US, although Guam was occupied during WWII, and parts of Alaska, and small parts of Maine during the War of 1812); and
  
  
• Members of Native American tribes, subject to the jurisdiction of their tribal governments, who do not pay US taxes. (This was true when the 14th amendment was passed, but it no longer is. See section below on the act that changed it in 1924.)

Any other person born in the proper US or in incorporated US territory is a citizen, no matter who his or her parents are or were. (The case is less clear for unincorporated US territory.)

What is the meaning of “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof” in the 14th amendment?

Wrong. Illegal Aliens are not Subject to US Jurisdiction. This is why they can be deported simply for missing a Court date.
It's why they can be held in detention simply because they are here.

The Constitution defines that. ie: Subject to the Jusrisdiction.

Wrong.

The 14th Amendment to the United States Constitution - Fourteenth Amendment - anchor babies birthright citizenship - interpretation and misinterpretation - US Constitution

The whole Anchor Baby Myth was created by The Democrat Party who have implemented a long term strategy of importing illegal immigrants in to their states and districts to bolster their populations, falsely acquire a larger share of Federal Dollars, and Game The System and gather to themselves an unfair share of Representatives in Congress.

The 14th Amendment was written to stop The Southern Democrat States from Discriminating against The Children of their Former Slaves and declared them US Citizens via The Constitution so that they could not be denied their rights by The Bigoted Democrat Party.

Which is why Trump should make an executive order about no more anchor babies and let the left push it to the Supreme.

The left never cared about the country, the left only cares about the left. At this very moment, China or some terrorist organization sent pregnant women here to have babies that become automatic citizens. They take those women and babies back and will raise the baby to adulthood with their radicalization. Then when they turn of age, they can walk into our country with no questions asked because they are technically Americans.

Birther Tourism is a real threat to the future of this country, but do you think one Democrat cares that we are creating more problems for this country, and quite possibly the next 911 attackers? Of course not. All they care about is power; power they can get from foreigners in this country legal or not.

 

[Timmy]

In short the phrase “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof” excludes three and only three groups of people:

• Children born to foreign diplomats here on diplomatic business, who have diplomatic immunity to US Law;
  
  
• Children of members of an invading army that has occupied and controlled some part of US territory, born on that occupied area, who are obviously not subject to US Law (which has rarely happened in the US, although Guam was occupied during WWII, and parts of Alaska, and small parts of Maine during the War of 1812); and
  
  
• Members of Native American tribes, subject to the jurisdiction of their tribal governments, who do not pay US taxes. (This was true when the 14th amendment was passed, but it no longer is. See section below on the act that changed it in 1924.)

Any other person born in the proper US or in incorporated US territory is a citizen, no matter who his or her parents are or were. (The case is less clear for unincorporated US territory.)

What is the meaning of “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof” in the 14th amendment?

Wrong. Illegal Aliens are not Subject to US Jurisdiction. This is why they can be deported simply for missing a Court date.
It's why they can be held in detention simply because they are here.

The Constitution defines that. ie: Subject to the Jusrisdiction.

Wrong.

The 14th Amendment to the United States Constitution - Fourteenth Amendment - anchor babies birthright citizenship - interpretation and misinterpretation - US Constitution

The whole Anchor Baby Myth was created by The Democrat Party who have implemented a long term strategy of importing illegal immigrants in to their states and districts to bolster their populations, falsely acquire a larger share of Federal Dollars, and Game The System and gather to themselves an unfair share of Representatives in Congress.

The 14th Amendment was written to stop The Southern Democrat States from Discriminating against The Children of their Former Slaves and declared them US Citizens via The Constitution so that they could not be denied their rights by The Bigoted Democrat Party.

Which is why Trump should make an executive order about no more anchor babies and let the left push it to the Supreme.

The left never cared about the country, the left only cares about the left. At this very moment, China or some terrorist organization sent pregnant women here to have babies that become automatic citizens. They take those women and babies back and will raise the baby to adulthood with their radicalization. Then when they turn of age, they can walk into our country with no questions asked because they are technically Americans.

Birther Tourism is a real threat to the future of this country, but do you think one Democrat cares that we are creating more problems for this country, and quite possibly the next 911 attackers? Of course not. All they care about is power; power they can get from foreigners in this country legal or not.

Baron Trump is an anchor baby . Such a shame he will have to go back to his moms shithole country .

 

[Siete]

In short the phrase “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof” excludes three and only three groups of people:

• Children born to foreign diplomats here on diplomatic business, who have diplomatic immunity to US Law;
  
  
• Children of members of an invading army that has occupied and controlled some part of US territory, born on that occupied area, who are obviously not subject to US Law (which has rarely happened in the US, although Guam was occupied during WWII, and parts of Alaska, and small parts of Maine during the War of 1812); and
  
  
• Members of Native American tribes, subject to the jurisdiction of their tribal governments, who do not pay US taxes. (This was true when the 14th amendment was passed, but it no longer is. See section below on the act that changed it in 1924.)

Any other person born in the proper US or in incorporated US territory is a citizen, no matter who his or her parents are or were. (The case is less clear for unincorporated US territory.)

What is the meaning of “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof” in the 14th amendment?

Wrong. Illegal Aliens are not Subject to US Jurisdiction. This is why they can be deported simply for missing a Court date.
It's why they can be held in detention simply because they are here.

The Constitution defines that. ie: Subject to the Jusrisdiction.

Wrong.

The 14th Amendment to the United States Constitution - Fourteenth Amendment - anchor babies birthright citizenship - interpretation and misinterpretation - US Constitution

The whole Anchor Baby Myth was created by The Democrat Party who have implemented a long term strategy of importing illegal immigrants in to their states and districts to bolster their populations, falsely acquire a larger share of Federal Dollars, and Game The System and gather to themselves an unfair share of Representatives in Congress.

The 14th Amendment was written to stop The Southern Democrat States from Discriminating against The Children of their Former Slaves and declared them US Citizens via The Constitution so that they could not be denied their rights by The Bigoted Democrat Party.

Which is why Trump should make an executive order about no more anchor babies and let the left push it to the Supreme.

The left never cared about the country, the left only cares about the left. At this very moment, China or some terrorist organization sent pregnant women here to have babies that become automatic citizens. They take those women and babies back and will raise the baby to adulthood with their radicalization. Then when they turn of age, they can walk into our country with no questions asked because they are technically Americans.

Birther Tourism is a real threat to the future of this country, but do you think one Democrat cares that we are creating more problems for this country, and quite possibly the next 911 attackers? Of course not. All they care about is power; power they can get from foreigners in this country legal or not.

Trump cant alter the constitution with an executive order.

yes, class - RW's really are that fucking stupid

 

[pknopp]

In short the phrase “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof” excludes three and only three groups of people:

• Children born to foreign diplomats here on diplomatic business, who have diplomatic immunity to US Law;
  
  
• Children of members of an invading army that has occupied and controlled some part of US territory, born on that occupied area, who are obviously not subject to US Law (which has rarely happened in the US, although Guam was occupied during WWII, and parts of Alaska, and small parts of Maine during the War of 1812); and
  
  
• Members of Native American tribes, subject to the jurisdiction of their tribal governments, who do not pay US taxes. (This was true when the 14th amendment was passed, but it no longer is. See section below on the act that changed it in 1924.)

Any other person born in the proper US or in incorporated US territory is a citizen, no matter who his or her parents are or were. (The case is less clear for unincorporated US territory.)

What is the meaning of “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof” in the 14th amendment?

Wrong. Illegal Aliens are not Subject to US Jurisdiction. This is why they can be deported simply for missing a Court date.
It's why they can be held in detention simply because they are here.

The Constitution defines that. ie: Subject to the Jusrisdiction.

Wrong.

The 14th Amendment to the United States Constitution - Fourteenth Amendment - anchor babies birthright citizenship - interpretation and misinterpretation - US Constitution

The whole Anchor Baby Myth was created by The Democrat Party who have implemented a long term strategy of importing illegal immigrants in to their states and districts to bolster their populations, falsely acquire a larger share of Federal Dollars, and Game The System and gather to themselves an unfair share of Representatives in Congress.

The 14th Amendment was written to stop The Southern Democrat States from Discriminating against The Children of their Former Slaves and declared them US Citizens via The Constitution so that they could not be denied their rights by The Bigoted Democrat Party.

Which is why Trump should make an executive order about no more anchor babies and let the left push it to the Supreme.

The left never cared about the country, the left only cares about the left. At this very moment, China or some terrorist organization sent pregnant women here to have babies that become automatic citizens. They take those women and babies back and will raise the baby to adulthood with their radicalization. Then when they turn of age, they can walk into our country with no questions asked because they are technically Americans.

Birther Tourism is a real threat to the future of this country, but do you think one Democrat cares that we are creating more problems for this country, and quite possibly the next 911 attackers? Of course not. All they care about is power; power they can get from foreigners in this country legal or not.

The Constitution is not "left" or "right" it just is.

 

[Terri4Trump]

I'm in! It may take a constitutional amendment to to do.

I don't think so.

 

[Correll]

In short the phrase “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof” excludes three and only three groups of people:

• Children born to foreign diplomats here on diplomatic business, who have diplomatic immunity to US Law;
  
  
• Children of members of an invading army that has occupied and controlled some part of US territory, born on that occupied area, who are obviously not subject to US Law (which has rarely happened in the US, although Guam was occupied during WWII, and parts of Alaska, and small parts of Maine during the War of 1812); and
  
  
• Members of Native American tribes, subject to the jurisdiction of their tribal governments, who do not pay US taxes. (This was true when the 14th amendment was passed, but it no longer is. See section below on the act that changed it in 1924.)

Any other person born in the proper US or in incorporated US territory is a citizen, no matter who his or her parents are or were. (The case is less clear for unincorporated US territory.)

What is the meaning of “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof” in the 14th amendment?

Wrong. Illegal Aliens are not Subject to US Jurisdiction. This is why they can be deported simply for missing a Court date.
It's why they can be held in detention simply because they are here.

The Constitution defines that. ie: Subject to the Jusrisdiction.

Wrong.

The 14th Amendment to the United States Constitution - Fourteenth Amendment - anchor babies birthright citizenship - interpretation and misinterpretation - US Constitution

The whole Anchor Baby Myth was created by The Democrat Party who have implemented a long term strategy of importing illegal immigrants in to their states and districts to bolster their populations, falsely acquire a larger share of Federal Dollars, and Game The System and gather to themselves an unfair share of Representatives in Congress.

The 14th Amendment was written to stop The Southern Democrat States from Discriminating against The Children of their Former Slaves and declared them US Citizens via The Constitution so that they could not be denied their rights by The Bigoted Democrat Party.

Which is why Trump should make an executive order about no more anchor babies and let the left push it to the Supreme.

The left never cared about the country, the left only cares about the left. At this very moment, China or some terrorist organization sent pregnant women here to have babies that become automatic citizens. They take those women and babies back and will raise the baby to adulthood with their radicalization. Then when they turn of age, they can walk into our country with no questions asked because they are technically Americans.

Birther Tourism is a real threat to the future of this country, but do you think one Democrat cares that we are creating more problems for this country, and quite possibly the next 911 attackers? Of course not. All they care about is power; power they can get from foreigners in this country legal or not.

Agreed. Issue the EO and let someone take it to the Courts.

 

[FA_Q2]

Wrong. Illegal Aliens are not Subject to US Jurisdiction. This is why they can be deported simply for missing a Court date.
It's why they can be held in detention simply because they are here.

The Constitution defines that. ie: Subject to the Jusrisdiction.

Wrong.

The 14th Amendment to the United States Constitution - Fourteenth Amendment - anchor babies birthright citizenship - interpretation and misinterpretation - US Constitution

The whole Anchor Baby Myth was created by The Democrat Party who have implemented a long term strategy of importing illegal immigrants in to their states and districts to bolster their populations, falsely acquire a larger share of Federal Dollars, and Game The System and gather to themselves an unfair share of Representatives in Congress.

The 14th Amendment was written to stop The Southern Democrat States from Discriminating against The Children of their Former Slaves and declared them US Citizens via The Constitution so that they could not be denied their rights by The Bigoted Democrat Party.

Which is why Trump should make an executive order about no more anchor babies and let the left push it to the Supreme.

The left never cared about the country, the left only cares about the left. At this very moment, China or some terrorist organization sent pregnant women here to have babies that become automatic citizens. They take those women and babies back and will raise the baby to adulthood with their radicalization. Then when they turn of age, they can walk into our country with no questions asked because they are technically Americans.

Birther Tourism is a real threat to the future of this country, but do you think one Democrat cares that we are creating more problems for this country, and quite possibly the next 911 attackers? Of course not. All they care about is power; power they can get from foreigners in this country legal or not.

Agreed. Issue the EO and let someone take it to the Courts.

The courts are not going to overturn the current understanding of the 14th. Hoping for that to happen is fanciful thinking. If you really want the 14th to be reinterpreted to exclude foreign born, it will require an amendment. That is also not going to happen.

 

[Correll]

The Constitution defines that. ie: Subject to the Jusrisdiction.

Wrong.

The 14th Amendment to the United States Constitution - Fourteenth Amendment - anchor babies birthright citizenship - interpretation and misinterpretation - US Constitution

The whole Anchor Baby Myth was created by The Democrat Party who have implemented a long term strategy of importing illegal immigrants in to their states and districts to bolster their populations, falsely acquire a larger share of Federal Dollars, and Game The System and gather to themselves an unfair share of Representatives in Congress.

The 14th Amendment was written to stop The Southern Democrat States from Discriminating against The Children of their Former Slaves and declared them US Citizens via The Constitution so that they could not be denied their rights by The Bigoted Democrat Party.

Which is why Trump should make an executive order about no more anchor babies and let the left push it to the Supreme.

The left never cared about the country, the left only cares about the left. At this very moment, China or some terrorist organization sent pregnant women here to have babies that become automatic citizens. They take those women and babies back and will raise the baby to adulthood with their radicalization. Then when they turn of age, they can walk into our country with no questions asked because they are technically Americans.

Birther Tourism is a real threat to the future of this country, but do you think one Democrat cares that we are creating more problems for this country, and quite possibly the next 911 attackers? Of course not. All they care about is power; power they can get from foreigners in this country legal or not.

Agreed. Issue the EO and let someone take it to the Courts.

The courts are not going to overturn the current understanding of the 14th. Hoping for that to happen is fanciful thinking. If you really want the 14th to be reinterpreted to exclude foreign born, it will require an amendment. That is also not going to happen.

The current understanding is a simple precedent and a terrible one. IN any sane world, it would be overturned without hesitation.



You are likely correct. It is a long shot that conservatives judges would be so radical in their defense of this nation.

 

[Issa]

It's the next step in making America great again. Birthright Citizenship refers to Citizen parents, not Illegals. The 14th Amendment was only created for slaves after the civil war. It was not created for foreigners. Let's hear from the man who wrote the Citizenship clause himself, Senator John Jacob Howard:

"Every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. It settles the great question of citizenship and removes all doubt as to what persons are or are not citizens of the United States. This has long been a great desideratum in the jurisprudence and legislation of this country."

This understanding was reaffirmed by Senator Edward Cowan, who stated:

"[A foreigner in the United States] has a right to the protection of the laws; but he is not a citizen in the ordinary acceptance of the word..."

The phrase "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" was intended to exclude American-born persons from automatic citizenship whose allegiance to the United States was not complete.



President Trump Says He Is Still "Looking Seriously" at Ending Birthright Citizenship

White nationalists trying to slow down the demographics change lol....keep on living in fear and paranoia.

Well look at where these people came from and how they live. Of course we don't want that here. The land is not poison, the people are. They made their countries what they are today.

All ethnicities came here for a better opportunity i including whites. Why you feel so special as a white person?