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Are you now understanding the relationship between McCain's resistence to earmarks and the result of the exact opposite doctrines by the Democrats, and where that has led us?
He wouldn't have turned over the reins to Pelosi.
Did you see the same embarrassing behavior from this President tonight, when he told the press that Michelle was calling him so he had to run....with Clinton there to hold his hand.
Almost as embarrassing as the constant bows to every third world leader he could find....
"just how bad the economy would be and for how long."
OMG.
How do you know what the results would have been if the government has not thrown a trillion dollars at the problem???
Had that ever been tried?
Yes.
And it actually worked.
"Are you convinced he would not have bailed out banks, etc., and their collapse would have been good for us? Do you think he could have designed a more effective stimulus program?"
No, I don't know that...
"Republican and Democratic office holders show a similar presumption to dominate and fewer differences in tastes, habits, opinions, and sources of income among one another than between both and the rest of the country. They think, look, and act as a class.
Differences between Bushes, Clintons, and Obamas are of degree, not kind. "
The American Spectator : America's Ruling Class -- And the Perils of Revolution
So, on the one hand we know we have a total screw-up, on the other a chance that a different plan would have been in effect.
How can you expect me to blame what didn't happen?
PC, I have no idea what this post of yours means.
Well, neither does she, so perhaps finally you two have found something you have in common.
Only a lefty would think that increasing taxes wouldn't have a damaging effect on the economy in 2011, when in reality the tax increase would result in lower tax receipts than under the current rate structure.
Clinton increased the top rate in 1993 and no such thing happened, so the only comparable example of this that we have in no way supports your assertion.
Apology?
Obama delivered what he said he would
1. Entering office in the midst of the worst recession in 70 years, Obama passed TARP and Stimulus bills that reversed a stock market collapse, ended a financial panic, added 3 million jobs to the economy, saved the banks and saved the auto industry.
2. Obama redirected the war on terror back to where it belonged...Afghanistan. He partnered with Pakistan to increase strikes against Taliban/AlQaida strongholds in northern Pakistan. He increased drone strikes to kill key terrorist leaders and drive them underground.
3. He passed the first comprehensive healthcare bill in 100 years of trying and ensured that 30 million Americans who had been ignored were able to obtain coverage
4. He negotiated a START treaty with the Russians to reduce worldwide weapons stockpiles and continue inspections
Empty suit??
Far from it
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I can't decide which is more embarrassing, this man not understanding how a President behaves, or your post.
The question was about McCain, not Clinton you daft cow.
And Reagan raised the debt 190% according to the numbers you insist on using.
So you are retacting your comment as to how successful Clinton was in the use of PAYGO?
See, you are capable of learning!
No, ditz, going from a presidency that increases the debt 190% (Reagan) to a presidency that only increases the debt 30% (Clinton) would, apparently everywhere except Conservatopia,
be considered a major improvement.
Oh, and let's not neglect George Bush Sr. I don't think his numbers were particularly attractive either.
The tea party hasnt said one fucking word about the Debt the republicans want to see this country approve.
They were phoney bullshit right from the start.
Notice how not a single right winger mentions "supply and demand"? The bedrock of capitalism. They think it's all about "rich" people. But it's not.
With an economy that was growing, money would be pouring in to the treasury, and with a little responsible management, the debt will take care of itself. Tax breaks for millionaires and billionaires are simply a mean joke played on the country by unimaginative and greedy people.
So you are retacting your comment as to how successful Clinton was in the use of PAYGO?
See, you are capable of learning!
No, ditz, going from a presidency that increases the debt 190% (Reagan) to a presidency that only increases the debt 30% (Clinton) would, apparently everywhere except Conservatopia,
be considered a major improvement.
Oh, and let's not neglect George Bush Sr. I don't think his numbers were particularly attractive either.
Average Annual Spending Increases (excluding interest)
a. JFK 4.6%
b. LBJ 5.7%
c. Nixon 2.9%
d. Ford 2.7%
e. Carter 3.2%
f. Reagan 1.9%
g. BushI 2.0%
h. Clinton 1.9%
i. BushII 5.6%
Historical Tables | The White House
.what happened to the deficit commission obama hung his hat on for a year as he kept telling us as he ratcheted up spending aside from tarp etc. that we would get a handle on things?
Apology?
Obama delivered what he said he would
1. Entering office in the midst of the worst recession in 70 years, Obama passed TARP and Stimulus bills that reversed a stock market collapse, ended a financial panic, added 3 million jobs to the economy, saved the banks and saved the auto industry.
2. Obama redirected the war on terror back to where it belonged...Afghanistan. He partnered with Pakistan to increase strikes against Taliban/AlQaida strongholds in northern Pakistan. He increased drone strikes to kill key terrorist leaders and drive them underground.
3. He passed the first comprehensive healthcare bill in 100 years of trying and ensured that 30 million Americans who had been ignored were able to obtain coverage
4. He negotiated a START treaty with the Russians to reduce worldwide weapons stockpiles and continue inspections
Empty suit??
Far from it
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7vkWiFUOFg[/ame]
I can't decide which is more embarrassing, this man not understanding how a President behaves, or your post.
Nice dodge PC
Obama has already accomplished more in two years than Bush did in eight
Care to discuss??
.what happened to the deficit commission obama hung his hat on for a year as he kept telling us as he ratcheted up spending aside from tarp etc. that we would get a handle on things?
Obama deficit commission details savings plan - USATODAY.com
But you insist we stick to your script.It's really a treat to see conservatives writhing in frustration because liberals like myself are not sticking to the script they wrote for us.
No. I am curious why all the professed deficit hawks on the right are supporting this 900 billion dollar budget buster.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7vkWiFUOFg
I can't decide which is more embarrassing, this man not understanding how a President behaves, or your post.
Nice dodge PC
Obama has already accomplished more in two years than Bush did in eight
Care to discuss??
No, Wingy...
what I want to do is sit on the sidelines and bask in the glory of having identified this empty suit years before you guys did!
...and watch you lefties assemble the circular firing squad!!!
Don't let me stop you: carry on!
Nice dodge PC
Obama has already accomplished more in two years than Bush did in eight
Care to discuss??
No, Wingy...
what I want to do is sit on the sidelines and bask in the glory of having identified this empty suit years before you guys did!
...and watch you lefties assemble the circular firing squad!!!
Don't let me stop you: carry on!
Unfortunately the "empty suit" is your analogy
Obama has accomplished more in his first two years than any president in recent memory. I have listed his major accomplishments......very impressive
History will rank Obama as a top 10 president after his second term is over
These people voted for Nero because he played a mean fiddle and are asking for encores.
Although Minnesota has frozen over, Hell still remains above freezing. Therefore, no apologies forthcoming for something the left believes it did correctly.
Insanity I know, but they are finally seeing their goals of this nation's destruction accomplished. They're not about to stop or apologize now.
