deltex1
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The two posts above have pegged the idiot scale.
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What I'm saying, all war is evil. In a perfect world, humans would settle their differences without resorting to violence.Neither was "evil". Both were necessary.It was necessary but nothing to be proud of. However millions of American and Japanese lives were saved.
Truman chose the lesser of two evils.
I'm not a liberal. I'm just saying that war is evil. I don't think you have to be a liberal to believe that.The usual liberal statement..."I see things as they should be in a perfect world..."What I'm saying, all war is evil. In a perfect world, humans would settle their differences without resorting to violence.Neither was "evil". Both were necessary.It was necessary but nothing to be proud of. However millions of American and Japanese lives were saved.
Truman chose the lesser of two evils.
Wouldn't you think that Americans would have come to their senses in the 70 years since little timid Harry Truman, the first president in history without a college education, found himself president without a freaking clue after FDR died in April of 1945? Why would knee jerk propaganda educated Americans still justify two Atomic Bombs used on a defeated country? Why does it make you feel better if the inhabitants of two non military target cities in Japan were incinerated?
Whatever. You're an idiot.I'm not a liberal. I'm just saying that war is evil. I don't think you have to be a liberal to believe that.The usual liberal statement..."I see things as they should be in a perfect world..."What I'm saying, all war is evil. In a perfect world, humans would settle their differences without resorting to violence.Neither was "evil". Both were necessary.It was necessary but nothing to be proud of. However millions of American and Japanese lives were saved.
Truman chose the lesser of two evils.
No, you just have to be a fringe pacifist radical.
You would rather stand aside and watch millions of innocent people be led to a death camp than to stand and fight back.
Pathetic.
Whatever. You're an idiot.
We destroy Japanese city after city and the Japanese do not surrender.Wouldn't you think that Americans would have come to their senses in the 70 years since little timid Harry Truman, the first president in history without a college education, found himself president without a freaking clue after FDR died in April of 1945? Why would knee jerk propaganda educated Americans still justify two Atomic Bombs used on a defeated country? Why does it make you feel better if the inhabitants of two non military target cities in Japan were incinerated?
We destroy Japanese city after city and the Japanese do not surrender.Wouldn't you think that Americans would have come to their senses in the 70 years since little timid Harry Truman, the first president in history without a college education, found himself president without a freaking clue after FDR died in April of 1945? Why would knee jerk propaganda educated Americans still justify two Atomic Bombs used on a defeated country? Why does it make you feel better if the inhabitants of two non military target cities in Japan were incinerated?
We drop two A bombs and within days Japan surrenders, and thousands of Japanese live; add to that operation Olympia and Coronet are canceled, and thousands of Americans live. In 1974 the last Japanese soldier surrenders.
Wouldn't you think that Americans would have come to their senses in the 70 years since little timid Harry Truman, the first president in history without a college education, found himself president without a freaking clue after FDR died in April of 1945? Why would knee jerk propaganda educated Americans still justify two Atomic Bombs used on a defeated country? Why does it make you feel better if the inhabitants of two non military target cities in Japan were incinerated?
And if they hadn't attacked to begin with, wouldn't that have been a better alternative? If Japan wasn't rampaging over the Pacific, killing millions of innocent people in Indochina, ( the rape of Nan King). Japan wan't the poor poor little victim here. Wow.If Japan had won the war, kids in school would hear a different story.The Japanese invading china and killing millions was evi, I am not a liberal either. Japan attacking Pearl Harbor or British/American bases with NO notice and all the shit the after the fact, Japan can screw itself. Wow.I'm not a liberal. I'm just saying that war is evil. I don't think you have to be a liberal to believe that.The usual liberal statement..."I see things as they should be in a perfect world..."What I'm saying, all war is evil. In a perfect world, humans would settle their differences without resorting to violence.Neither was "evil". Both were necessary.
It did not save American lives, but it did terminate many innocent Japanese lives.Winning the war against the Japanese and saving American lives....
Wouldn't you think that Americans would have come to their senses in the 70 years since little timid Harry Truman, the first president in history without a college education, found himself president without a freaking clue after FDR died in April of 1945? Why would knee jerk propaganda educated Americans still justify two Atomic Bombs used on a defeated country? Why does it make you feel better if the inhabitants of two non military target cities in Japan were incinerated?
It did not save American lives, but it did terminate many innocent Japanese lives.Winning the war against the Japanese and saving American lives....
Winning the war against the Japanese and saving American lives....
False choice.It did not save American lives, but it did terminate many innocent Japanese lives.Winning the war against the Japanese and saving American lives....
Using a bomb instead of an invasion to end the war, obviously saved American lives.
Yes, it saved American lives. Who knows how many thousands. Japanese were killing themselves wholesale, including civilians. They refused to surrender, some would strap bombs on themselves and run into our forces. Groups would charge with pitch forks. Just one determined suicidal zealot can do a lot of damage.It did not save American lives, but it did terminate many innocent Japanese lives.
False choice.It did not save American lives, but it did terminate many innocent Japanese lives.Winning the war against the Japanese and saving American lives....
Using a bomb instead of an invasion to end the war, obviously saved American lives.
No invasion was ever necessary. Japan had been trying to surrender for months..even years, but FDR and Truman told them unconditional surrender or we will fuck you up...leading to thousands of unnecessary deaths on both sides.
It did not save lives. It ended lives of many innocent civilians.Yes, it saved American lives. Who knows how many thousands. Japanese were killing themselves wholesale, including civilians. They refused to surrender, some would strap bombs on themselves and run into our forces. Groups would charge with pitch forks. Just one determined suicidal zealot can do a lot of damage.It did not save American lives, but it did terminate many innocent Japanese lives.
Watch the show "World War 2 from Above". I saw it yesterday and leaves all doubt that it was the right thing to do. I learned a lot. One interesting thing is the cost of the atomic bombs. Over 600,000 people were employed and the cost was about 25 billion in today's money. One of the reasons it was so expensive was they weren't sure which would work, plutonium or uranium so they developed both. Fat Boy and Little John were different, they both worked.
Do you even know their conditions? I suspect not.False choice.It did not save American lives, but it did terminate many innocent Japanese lives.Winning the war against the Japanese and saving American lives....
Using a bomb instead of an invasion to end the war, obviously saved American lives.
No invasion was ever necessary. Japan had been trying to surrender for months..even years, but FDR and Truman told them unconditional surrender or we will fuck you up...leading to thousands of unnecessary deaths on both sides.
"Necessary"?
That's an interesting choice of words.
Sure. I guess if we agreed to their conditions, we could have just walked away.
So, were their conditions reasonable?