Listening to Jesus

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Giving thanks leads to being thankful and not thankless. Anyone who would scoff at being thankful is thankless.

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Giving thanks leads to being thankful and not thankless. Anyone who would scoff at being thankful is thankless.

thankfulness is a holiday without religion, christianity ... something the unthankful are incapable of.

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Communism is naturalized humanism. Karl Marx

Their religion is socialism which worships big government and social policy. It is based on atheism and deification of man. It proceeds in almost all its manifestations from the assumption that the basic principles guiding the life of an individual and of mankind in general do not go beyond the satisfaction of material needs or primitive instincts. They have no distinction between good and evil, no morality or any other kind of value, save pleasure. Their doctrine is abolition of private property, abolition of family, abolition of religion and communality or equality. The religious nature of socialism explains the extraordinary attraction to socialist doctrines and its capacity to inflame individuals and inspire popular movements and condemn respect for any who believe in Christianity. They practice moral relativity, indiscriminate indiscriminateness, multiculturalism, cultural marxism and normalization of deviance. Their hostility towards traditional religions is that of an animosity between a rival religion. They can be identified by an external locus of control. They worship science but are the first to argue against it.

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Their religion is socialism which worships big government and social policy ...

it's customary to attribute quotes to their source ... whether relevant or not.


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Only one is a direct quote. I paraphrased some and added my own ideas. Bite me if you don't like it. My signature line will only accomodate so many lines.

Michail Bakunins sozial-politischer Briefwechsel mit Alexander Ivanovitsch Herzen. Stuttgart, 1895.

G. Le Bon. Psychologie du socialisme. (Quotations refer to Russian translation, Psikhologiia sotsializma, St. Petersburg, 1908.)

S. Frank. "Etika nigilizma" ("The Ethics of Nihilism," in Russian). In: Vekhi (Landmarks), Moscow, 1909.

S. Bulgakov. Pervokhristianstvo i noveishii sotsializm (Early Christianity and Modern Socialism, in Russian). Moscow, 1911.

S. Bulgakov. Khristianstvo i sotsializm (Christianity and Socialism, in Russian). Moscow, 1917

W. Gurian. Der Bolschewismus. Freiburg, 1931 giia sotsializma, St. Petersburg, 1908.)

H. Marcuse. Eros and Civilization. A Philosophical Inquiry into Freud. Boston, 1955

I. Shafarevich. The Socialist Phenomeon, 1980 by Harper & Row

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I paraphrased some and added my own ideas.

real clever especially the clarity ... and you are leading us to believe Jesus was a capitalist --- is why he was crucified by the Jews and Romans - .

inquisitor, yours is truly a curious religion.

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lol, I have not gotten within 100 miles of Jesus. Nice try though. The reality is that you are trying to defend socialism without admitting you are for socialism.

 

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That sounds exactly like the argument a drug addict would make. That or a socialist.

Their religion is socialism which worships big government and social policy. It is based on atheism and deification of man.

If a person is an atheist they do not believe in any deity.

You worship a human being as if he was a god. That is the deification of man.

The point made was that your deified human being drank enough for people to notice.

Either Jesus was a sinner or drinking alcohol isn't a sin.

You can't claim that Jesus was sinless and then point to other people and call them sinners for doing the exact same thing Jesus was accused of doing.

That would make you a hypocrite and a scumbag.

Your logic is confusing to say the least.

 

[kjw47]

What is required to benefit from Jesus' sacrifice?

Jesus died on the cross for our sins, therefore, that bill is paid and we can sin all we want?

Only one in darkness believes that. Why did all who died pay their own wages of sin, even the apostles. There is 0 room for sin in Gods creation.

So then why did Jesus die on the cross? For nothing?

During the tribulation--the remaining little flock go to heaven, The great multitude are brought through Har-mageddon. these will never taste death. It was for these righteous ones that he died for. The door is open to all--FEW find their way in.

So what did his death accomplish for these people?

Never having to taste death, entering Gods kingdom and living forever, never sick, diseased, aging.

 

[kjw47]

Jesus died on the cross for our sins, therefore, that bill is paid and we can sin all we want?

Do you worship false gods? No.

Do you speak falsely in the name of God? No.

Do you try to mislead others to 'just believe' anything and swallow bullshit without thinking? No.

Do you ever fornicate with any false religion? No?

Have you ever eaten the flesh of any unclean creature that does not think very deeply? No?


Stop with the shenanigans already.. You don't do these things. You will never do these things. You are not a sinner.

Here are two lists of unacceptable sins--1Cor 6:9-11--Gal 5:19-21--- both spots teach--those who practice one of these will not enter Gods kingdom. That doesn't even include the liars, false god worshippers--I do believe drugs come under drunkenness. The majority on earth are doing at least one of those sins.

So god's going to make a big bonfire out of everyone. He sounds like a douchebag.

He will destroy the wicked. He warned all 2000 years in advance. Its their fault, not his.

He's going to kill a ton of people. He's officially a douchesack.

They need to listen--Its their fault not his.

 

[kjw47]

Drunkeness is a sin and you don't believe drug addiction isn't
Paul used the word--spiritism( Gal 5:19-21)-- the greek word is Farmacia--The bible says--will not enter Gods kingdom.

Drug addiction is a symptom of flawed society, not a flawed individual. Do you never pop pills for what ails you?

Jesus was a drinker who was reviled and rejected as a sinner for being a glutton and a drunk who liked to party with all sorts of so called bad characters (according to the gospels that is) that you would accuse of being sinful, and then denigrate, and criminalize....if only you could.......



So you are agreeing with the people that reviled Jesus as a sinner?

Is Paul your savior?

Jesus never sinned. Every mortal on earth in Jesus day, were far removed from God, including the chosen( Israelites).
They didn't even recognize their own Messiah.
Jesus was like a sin doctor--the sick needed him.

 

[Mudda]

Jesus died on the cross for our sins, therefore, that bill is paid and we can sin all we want?

Only one in darkness believes that. Why did all who died pay their own wages of sin, even the apostles. There is 0 room for sin in Gods creation.

So then why did Jesus die on the cross? For nothing?

During the tribulation--the remaining little flock go to heaven, The great multitude are brought through Har-mageddon. these will never taste death. It was for these righteous ones that he died for. The door is open to all--FEW find their way in.

So what did his death accomplish for these people?

Never having to taste death, entering Gods kingdom and living forever, never sick, diseased, aging.

People still get sick, diseases, age and die.

 

[Mudda]

Do you worship false gods? No.

Do you speak falsely in the name of God? No.

Do you try to mislead others to 'just believe' anything and swallow bullshit without thinking? No.

Do you ever fornicate with any false religion? No?

Have you ever eaten the flesh of any unclean creature that does not think very deeply? No?


Stop with the shenanigans already.. You don't do these things. You will never do these things. You are not a sinner.

Here are two lists of unacceptable sins--1Cor 6:9-11--Gal 5:19-21--- both spots teach--those who practice one of these will not enter Gods kingdom. That doesn't even include the liars, false god worshippers--I do believe drugs come under drunkenness. The majority on earth are doing at least one of those sins.

So god's going to make a big bonfire out of everyone. He sounds like a douchebag.

He will destroy the wicked. He warned all 2000 years in advance. Its their fault, not his.

He's going to kill a ton of people. He's officially a douchesack.

They need to listen--Its their fault not his.

When I didn't listen, my father would whack me, not kill me. Your god use a massive douche.

 

[kjw47]

Only one in darkness believes that. Why did all who died pay their own wages of sin, even the apostles. There is 0 room for sin in Gods creation.

So then why did Jesus die on the cross? For nothing?

During the tribulation--the remaining little flock go to heaven, The great multitude are brought through Har-mageddon. these will never taste death. It was for these righteous ones that he died for. The door is open to all--FEW find their way in.

So what did his death accomplish for these people?

Never having to taste death, entering Gods kingdom and living forever, never sick, diseased, aging.

People still get sick, diseases, age and die.

Gods kingdom has not arrived to the earth yet.

 

[kjw47]

Here are two lists of unacceptable sins--1Cor 6:9-11--Gal 5:19-21--- both spots teach--those who practice one of these will not enter Gods kingdom. That doesn't even include the liars, false god worshippers--I do believe drugs come under drunkenness. The majority on earth are doing at least one of those sins.

So god's going to make a big bonfire out of everyone. He sounds like a douchebag.

He will destroy the wicked. He warned all 2000 years in advance. Its their fault, not his.

He's going to kill a ton of people. He's officially a douchesack.

They need to listen--Its their fault not his.

When I didn't listen, my father would whack me, not kill me. Your god use a massive douche.

Where, in your little mortal thoughts? God has warned all--0 room for sin in his creation. Its their fault, not his.

 

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Here are two lists of unacceptable sins--1Cor 6:9-11--Gal 5:19-21--- both spots teach--those who practice one of these will not enter Gods kingdom. That doesn't even include the liars, false god worshippers--I do believe drugs come under drunkenness. The majority on earth are doing at least one of those sins.

So god's going to make a big bonfire out of everyone. He sounds like a douchebag.

He will destroy the wicked. He warned all 2000 years in advance. Its their fault, not his.

He's going to kill a ton of people. He's officially a douchesack.

They need to listen--Its their fault not his.

When I didn't listen, my father would whack me, not kill me. Your god use a massive douche.

Is that the best you have? It's like you are not even trying. Have you tried mocking Him directly?

 

[Mudda]

So then why did Jesus die on the cross? For nothing?

During the tribulation--the remaining little flock go to heaven, The great multitude are brought through Har-mageddon. these will never taste death. It was for these righteous ones that he died for. The door is open to all--FEW find their way in.

So what did his death accomplish for these people?

Never having to taste death, entering Gods kingdom and living forever, never sick, diseased, aging.

People still get sick, diseases, age and die.

Gods kingdom has not arrived to the earth yet.

We're not part of god's kingdom? Of course we are.

 

[Mudda]

So god's going to make a big bonfire out of everyone. He sounds like a douchebag.

He will destroy the wicked. He warned all 2000 years in advance. Its their fault, not his.

He's going to kill a ton of people. He's officially a douchesack.

They need to listen--Its their fault not his.

When I didn't listen, my father would whack me, not kill me. Your god use a massive douche.

Where, in your little mortal thoughts? God has warned all--0 room for sin in his creation. Its their fault, not his.

Jesus died on the cross for my sins. Too bad, you lose.

 

[Mudda]

So god's going to make a big bonfire out of everyone. He sounds like a douchebag.

He will destroy the wicked. He warned all 2000 years in advance. Its their fault, not his.

He's going to kill a ton of people. He's officially a douchesack.

They need to listen--Its their fault not his.

When I didn't listen, my father would whack me, not kill me. Your god use a massive douche.

Is that the best you have? It's like you are not even trying. Have you tried mocking Him directly?

I only mock those with no clue. Like you.

 

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He will destroy the wicked. He warned all 2000 years in advance. Its their fault, not his.

He's going to kill a ton of people. He's officially a douchesack.

They need to listen--Its their fault not his.

When I didn't listen, my father would whack me, not kill me. Your god use a massive douche.

Is that the best you have? It's like you are not even trying. Have you tried mocking Him directly?

I only mock those with no clue. Like you.

Are you afraid to mock God?

 

[Mudda]

He's going to kill a ton of people. He's officially a douchesack.

They need to listen--Its their fault not his.

When I didn't listen, my father would whack me, not kill me. Your god use a massive douche.

Is that the best you have? It's like you are not even trying. Have you tried mocking Him directly?

I only mock those with no clue. Like you.

Are you afraid to mock God?

That would make me just like you. Afraid of invisible, unproven rulers.

 

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They need to listen--Its their fault not his.

When I didn't listen, my father would whack me, not kill me. Your god use a massive douche.

Is that the best you have? It's like you are not even trying. Have you tried mocking Him directly?

I only mock those with no clue. Like you.

Are you afraid to mock God?

That would make me just like you. Afraid of invisible, unproven rulers.

But you are afraid of Him, Mudda. Don't feel bad. You are not the first atheist I have come across who was afraid to mock God. In fact, it seems to be a common trait.

 

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Mudda

 

[Mudda]

When I didn't listen, my father would whack me, not kill me. Your god use a massive douche.

Is that the best you have? It's like you are not even trying. Have you tried mocking Him directly?

I only mock those with no clue. Like you.

Are you afraid to mock God?

That would make me just like you. Afraid of invisible, unproven rulers.

But you are afraid of Him, Mudda. Don't feel bad. You are not the first atheist I have come across who was afraid to mock God. In fact, it seems to be a common trait.

Whether I mock him or not doesn't take away from the fact that your god is a douchesack who needs people to idolize him/her or else he chars them in a fire.

 

[hobelim]

That sounds exactly like the argument a drug addict would make. That or a socialist.

Their religion is socialism which worships big government and social policy. It is based on atheism and deification of man.

If a person is an atheist they do not believe in any deity.

You worship a human being as if he was a god. That is the deification of man.

The point made was that your deified human being drank enough for people to notice.

Either Jesus was a sinner or drinking alcohol isn't a sin.

You can't claim that Jesus was sinless and then point to other people and call them sinners for doing the exact same thing Jesus was accused of doing.

That would make you a hypocrite and a scumbag.

Your logic is confusing to say the least.

Thats a shame.


Let me break it down for you.

Jesus was accused of being a glutton and a drunk and not because he wasn't eating and drinking.

If drinking is a sin then Jesus was a sinner.

If Jesus was without sin, then drinking is not sinful.

You can't have it both ways.

You perjuring yourself in the name of God to falsely accuse others makes you a scumbag.

Capisca?

 

[hobelim]

Jesus never sinned. Every mortal on earth in Jesus day, were far removed from God, including the chosen( Israelites).
They didn't even recognize their own Messiah.
Jesus was like a sin doctor--the sick needed him.

Baloney.

When the Pharisees asked Jesus why he was giving them a hard time but partying with people who they condemned as sinful Jesus replied, ", "Healthy people don't need a doctor--sick people do."

Here Jesus is clearly stating that the pharisees and their perverse views about what constitutes sin, the exact same perverse views that you maintain, were the only ones who were sick, ie., sinful.

If Jesus was without sin and the people he was partying with were not the sick ones, then the people who think that God gives a crap about what you eat and drink and then obsesses over the sexual preferences of a very odd species of talking bipeds are the only sinners..