LilOlLady's Everlasting Gobstopper Illegal Immigration Thread

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[ConHog]

EFFECTIVE IMMIGRATION REFORM

Admitting past mistakes key to effective immigration reform
March 29th, 2010- by Julie Myers Wood


Second, any reform effort must clearly support and fund our enforcement agencies to ensure full compliance of our immigration laws going forward. For the last several decades, immigration agencies have been woefully understaffed, given their significant mission. ICE has only 6,000 agents, for example, far less than several city police departments, but the agency has a nationwide mission to combat immigration and customs violations. To compound the staffing challenges, if new legislation provides additional opportunities for adjustment, there will be significant attempts to fraudulently adjust. Congress must consider the necessary enforcement footprint that will be required following reform to avoid the failures of the past.

The activity this past week shows that there is potential to make progress on reform. However, as a former enforcement chief and veteran of the last debate, I can say with certainty that failure to acknowledge and address the incomplete enforcement efforts of previous legislation will do little to truly reform our laws.

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Admitting past mistakes key to effective immigration reform | Security Debrief - a blog of homeland security news and analysis

We don't need reform. We need enforcement of standing laws.

No shit, welfare reform is code word for let them all in

 

[Gunny]

6,000 ICE agent cannot enforce our immigration laws. Immigration reform should be more ICE agents and more border agents to get their jobs done. The real problem start when those get past border agent and go into our cities.

Wrong. They don't do their jobs. They turn a blind eye, and the Fed Gov't turns a blind eye to them.

What should be and what is are two different things. Live in a border state do you? I know what I SEE.

 

[Gunny]

SB1070 DO NOT TARGET OR PROFILE

SB1070 do not target or profile Hispanics looking and Spanish speaking people who may be legal. If you are an immigrant with a green card or a driver’s license and you are stopped on a traffic violations show them and be on your way. Now if you are here illegally and is stopped on a traffic violation and do not have a green card or a driver’s license that is “reasonable suspicion” to ask you citizenship status in the country and your ass is up the creek and on the next bus.

If you are an illegal alien, Hispanic looking and speak Spanish and do not drive or caught committing a crime you ass is safe from SB1070.

SB1070 do not require legal immigrants to carry a briefcase full of papers to show they are legal. Legal immigrants can get a driver’s license. Legal immigrants can carry a green card.

Allegations by illegal immigrant supporters and Obama that you will be stopped going to the ice cream parlor with your anchor babies is a lie and fear mongering and a weak as water excuse for not enforcing our immigration laws.

With only 6,000 ICE agents nationwide, they need all the help they can get from state and local officials. It is anti-American to sue the very people ICE and our government fail to protect from illegal immigration. Obama is more concern about protecting citizens of other countries than American citizens.

Those who oppose SB1070 oppose immigration enforcement.
Immigration Reform mean only one thing to Obamanites and that is votes.

Bullshit again. Do you have a brain, or just like posting mindless stuff? Illegal immigrants aren't that hard to spot. Being PC and denying that certain people fit certain stereotypes is again, bullshit.

 

[LilOlLady]

IMMIGRATION REFORM; OBAMA.S BIG LIE.

It sounds simple but I don’t believe Obama have a clue how to put into operation it. Like no clue how to put into operation the new healthcare plan. He just got it passed and the chips fall were they may. Immigrations reform will end up being blanket amnesty. He never actually say how it will be executed.
--What does been in the country “a long time mean”? 1,5,10,15,20 years? What happens to those who have not been in the country “a long time.”? Are they rounded up and sent home or left in the shadows? What is the statue of limitation of “illegal”? When has eluding a crime for years excuse the crime?
--What happens to those that have criminal records and do not come out of the shadows? And may have spouses and children? Will they be excused of their crimes and get to stay with their families or will they be deported?
--How do you do a back ground check on someone who has 5 alias and 5 social security numbers? When these people get old enough to get social security, it will be a nightmare for social security administration.
--When and how do they pay a fine and how much? And if and when they want to become citizens? What if they do not want to become citizens and just want to be legalized?
--How do they pay back taxes on money paid to them under the table? An amount cannot be estimated so it will never happen.
--“Go to the back of the line.” For what? And why should they care?

Immigration Reform cannot successfully be implemented and therefore cannot work and the only other thing to do is “deportation by attrition.” “Over the past two years, more than 40 local and state governments have passed ordinances and legislation aimed at making life miserable for illegal immigrants in the hope that they’ll have no choice but to return to their countries of origin. Deportation by attrition.” Immigration Reform will be blanket amnesty or not at all.
They may have been created equal but illegal aliens are criminals and criminals have not equal to law abiding citizens. “All men are created equal but all men are not treated equal.” Criminal behavior is not excused because all men are created equal.

 

[Tank]

Can white people evolve the mental facilities of these Hispanics in time to save America from becoming just another Hispanic country?

I think not.

 

[LilOlLady]

SB1070 DO NOT TARGET OR PROFILE

SB1070 do not target or profile Hispanics looking and Spanish speaking people who may be legal. If you are an immigrant with a green card or a driver’s license and you are stopped on a traffic violations show them and be on your way. Now if you are here illegally and is stopped on a traffic violation and do not have a green card or a driver’s license that is “reasonable suspicion” to ask you citizenship status in the country and your ass is up the creek and on the next bus.

If you are an illegal alien, Hispanic looking and speak Spanish and do not drive or caught committing a crime you ass is safe from SB1070.

SB1070 do not require legal immigrants to carry a briefcase full of papers to show they are legal. Legal immigrants can get a driver’s license. Legal immigrants can carry a green card.

Allegations by illegal immigrant supporters and Obama that you will be stopped going to the ice cream parlor with your anchor babies is a lie and fear mongering and a weak as water excuse for not enforcing our immigration laws.

With only 6,000 ICE agents nationwide, they need all the help they can get from state and local officials. It is anti-American to sue the very people ICE and our government fail to protect from illegal immigration. Obama is more concern about protecting citizens of other countries than American citizens.

Those who oppose SB1070 oppose immigration enforcement.
Immigration Reform mean only one thing to Obamanites and that is votes.

Bullshit again. Do you have a brain, or just like posting mindless stuff? Illegal immigrants aren't that hard to spot. Being PC and denying that certain people fit certain stereotypes is again, bullshit.

AND YOU STILL CANNOT READ AND COMPREHEND.

 

[LilOlLady]

Hi Lady:

EFFECTIVE IMMIGRATION REFORM

Admitting past mistakes key to effective immigration reform
March 29th, 2010- by Julie Myers Wood

No Lady!!! You appear to be falling into the Open Border Lobby Trap by saying we need "Effective Immigration Reform." NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! The simple solution from the very beginning has been to force the Bush/Obama Administrations into ENFORCING our perfectly good Immigration, Employment and Document Fraud Laws already on the books!!!! The USA has been through ALL of this Immigration Reform already, which gave us the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 (Wiki).

The USA already gave up to 3 Million Illegal Aliens "Amnesty" under the strict condition that we ... NEVER ... DO ... THIS ... AGAIN!!!! The U.S. Government promised to ENFORCE OUR LAWS and to go after anyone 'hiring' the Illegal Aliens and anyone 'harboring' Illegal Aliens and anyone 'aiding and abetting' Illegal Aliens and anyone 'renting' to Illegal Aliens. However, we have literally thousands of Illegal Aliens using the same Social Security Number and nobody in so-called "Law Enforcement" cuckoo can find them.

Second, any reform effort must clearly support and fund our enforcement agencies to ensure full compliance of our immigration laws going forward.

NOOOOOOOO!!!!! Both Houses of Congress and the out-of-control Obama Fascist Regime cannot be trusted to ENFORCE our current Immigration, Employment and Document Fraud Laws, which means they have NO Credibility (ZERO) to create a new set of laws that nobody is going to enforce! Again, we gave up to 3 MILLION Illegal Aliens 'Amnesty' in 1986 and NOBODY is enforcing those laws!!!! The USA created a Department of Homeland Insecurity 'and' all of those bureaucrats simply look the other way and refuse to ENFORCE our perfectly good Immigration, Employment and Document Fraud Laws already on the books!



This is all NONSENSE and utter STUPIDITY for anyone to believe this Open Border Lobby Disinformation Propaganda!! Arizona wants to ENFORCE Federal Immigration, Employment and Document Fraud Laws, but Obama and his Fascists are bringing lawsuits against States simply trying to protect their citizens from Illegal Alien Foreign Nationals that are running around loose EVERYWHERE. The biggest 'employer' of Illegal Aliens is the Federal Government that chooses to pick around American Citizens for cheap illegal labor!!! There is no such thing as 'Effective Immigration Reform' when nobody is willing to ENFORCE laws already on the books! Period!

To compound the staffing challenges, if new legislation provides additional opportunities for adjustment, there will be significant attempts to fraudulently adjust. Congress must consider the necessary enforcement footprint that will be required following reform to avoid the failures of the past.

No sir. This is more Open Border Lobby "Trust The Govt" Propaganda, when our corrupt bought-and-paid-for politicians have NO intention of enforcing current laws and NO intention of enforcing any new laws, after handing out Illegal Amnesty to 20 to 30 Million goddamned Illegal Aliens as a reward for stealing American identities and JOBS. Enforcing our laws begins AT ... THE ... WORKPLACE and that enforcement begins NOW according to our perfectly good Immigration, Employment and Document Fraud Laws already on the books!

The activity this past week shows that there is potential to make progress on reform. However, as a former enforcement chief and veteran of the last debate, I can say with certainty that failure to acknowledge and address the incomplete enforcement efforts of previous legislation will do little to truly reform our laws.

This is utter NONSENSE!!!!! The "Legislation" (Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986) is just fine, but nobody is ENFORCING the provisions of that Law!!! Enforcement is the job of the Obama Administration that will continue looking the other way no matter what anyone says! Both Houses of Congress are supposed to be providing Congressional Oversight that forces the Obama Administration into enforcing those Laws, but everyone is looking the other way! Handing out Illegal Amnesty to 3 Million Illegal Aliens in 1986 gave us 20 to 30 Million Illegal Aliens!! Do the math!

Handing out Illegal Amnesty to those 'hiring' the goddamned Illegal Aliens will give us 100,000 Illegal Aliens 'and' everyone will continue looking the other way ...

GL,

Terral

WHAT GRADE SCHOOL DO YOU ATTEND, TERRAL?

 

[LilOlLady]

ILLEGAL ALIENS;
WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION.

The Dark Side Of Illegal Immigration

Facts, Figures And Statistics On Illegal Immigration

Impacts of Illegal Immigration: Jobs



Introduction

Forward

The Dark Side Of Illegal Immigration

Impacts Of Illegal Immigration: Terrorism

Impacts Of Illegal Immigration: Crime

Impacts of Illegal Immigration: Sex Crimes

Impacts of Illegal Immigration: Property Crimes And Operation Predator

Impacts of Illegal Immigration: Gangs

Impacts of Illegal Immigration: Crime Summary

Impacts of Illegal Immigration: Traffic Accidents

Impacts of Illegal Immigration: Cultural Difference

The Balkanization Of America

Impacts of Illegal Immigration: Education

Impacts of Illegal Immigration: Diseases

Impacts of Illegal Immigration: Jobs

Impacts of Illegal Immigration: Abuse Of The Guest Worker Program

Impacts of Illegal Immigration: American Infrastructure

Impacts of Illegal Immigration: Economic Costs

The Costs of Illegal Immigration

Should We Grant An Amnesty?

The North American Union And The Security And Prosperity Partnership

Recipe For Disaster: How To Destroy America

Border Security And The Border Fence

Solutions To The Illegal Immigration Problem

More Realistic Solutions To The Illegal Immigration Problem

How You Can Take Action

More Information

Immigration Facts, Figures And Addendum

 

[LilOlLady]

OBAMA RESPONSIBLE FOR ILLEGAL ALIENS DEATHS.
His promise of amnesty has caused an increase in crossing and deaths.

Deaths During Illegal Border Crossings Increase

Medical Examiners Sort Through Remains For Identification
Elizabeth Erwin
Reporter, KPHO.com
POSTED: 4:55 pm MST June 30, 2010
UPDATED: 11:12 am MST July 1, 2010

PIMA COUNTY, Ariz. -- Lockers inside the Pima County Medical Examiner's building are full of the personal belongings of those who died trying to cross the U.S.-Mexico border.
Deaths During Illegal Border Crossings Increase - Phoenix News Story - KPHO Phoenix

 

[Coyote]

OBAMA RESPONSIBLE FOR ILLEGAL ALIENS DEATHS.
His promise of amnesty has caused an increase in crossing and deaths.

Deaths During Illegal Border Crossings Increase

Medical Examiners Sort Through Remains For Identification
Elizabeth Erwin
Reporter, KPHO.com
POSTED: 4:55 pm MST June 30, 2010
UPDATED: 11:12 am MST July 1, 2010

PIMA COUNTY, Ariz. -- Lockers inside the Pima County Medical Examiner's building are full of the personal belongings of those who died trying to cross the U.S.-Mexico border.
Deaths During Illegal Border Crossings Increase - Phoenix News Story - KPHO Phoenix

Got any evidence to support that you old fraud?

The only thing the article said:

The number of those dying, he said, is growing every year. "So far this year we're up to about 94 people for the county here since Jan. 1," said Parks. He said the total number from last year was 160.​

The article only says there is an increase in deaths (over an unspecified number of years) and says nothing about an increase in "crossings".

The Obama administration has only just started tackling the immigration hot-potato, so any talk about possible "amnesty" is quite recent.

 

[JBeukema]

Oh, one-trick pony, you make it so hard, sometimes, to take you seriously.

 

[LilOlLady]

Illegal Immigrants Returning To Mexico For American Jobs
May 3, 2006 | ISSUE 42•18

MEXICO CITY—As dozens of major American corporations continue to move their manufacturing operations to Mexico, waves of job-seeking Mexican immigrants to the United States have begun making the deadly journey back across the border in search of better-paying Mexican-based American jobs.

"I came to this country seeking the job I sought when I first left this country," said Anuncio Reyes, 22, an undocumented worker who recrossed the U.S. border into Mexico last month, three years after leaving Mexico for the United States to work as an agricultural day laborer. "I spent everything I had to get back here. Yes, it was dangerous, and I miss my home. But as much as I love America, I have to go where the best American jobs are."
Illegal Immigrants Returning To Mexico For American Jobs | The Onion - America's Finest News Source

 

[Big Black Dog]

Hope they don't catch their asses on those barbed-wire fences on the way out.

 

[LilOlLady]

OBAMA RESPONSIBLE FOR ILLEGAL ALIENS DEATHS.
His promise of amnesty has caused an increase in crossing and deaths.

Deaths During Illegal Border Crossings Increase

Medical Examiners Sort Through Remains For Identification
Elizabeth Erwin
Reporter, KPHO.com
POSTED: 4:55 pm MST June 30, 2010
UPDATED: 11:12 am MST July 1, 2010

PIMA COUNTY, Ariz. -- Lockers inside the Pima County Medical Examiner's building are full of the personal belongings of those who died trying to cross the U.S.-Mexico border.
Deaths During Illegal Border Crossings Increase - Phoenix News Story - KPHO Phoenix

Got any evidence to support that you old fraud?

The only thing the article said:

The number of those dying, he said, is growing every year. "So far this year we're up to about 94 people for the county here since Jan. 1," said Parks. He said the total number from last year was 160.​

The article only says there is an increase in deaths (over an unspecified number of years) and says nothing about an increase in "crossings".

The Obama administration has only just started tackling the immigration hot-potato, so any talk about possible "amnesty" is quite recent.

Look at his history and he promised it during his campaign. duh?

POLL: AMNESTY WILL INCREASE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION Oct 19, 2009 ... After the last amnesty bill in 1986, the United States did indeed see a flood of illegal immigrants crossing the border. ...
POLL: AMNESTY WILL INCREASE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION - Cached - Similar

30 million more since 1986

 

[DiveCon]

i'm not going to blame Obama for someone choosing to violate our borders and causing their own deaths

 

[LilOlLady]

I would like to see more American companies move to Mexico. They only hire Mexicans anyway. If they all go home, isn't that what we want. Relief for education, healthcare, welfare, law enforcement, etc. and maybe crime will be more lucrative in Mexico and criminals will leave also.

 

[Big Black Dog]

You can't fix stupid according to Ron White. I think he's telling the truth. If an illegal alien is stupid enough to hoof it across the dangerous terrain to enter the country illegally then he or she deserves whatever fate awaits them. It isn't the US's problem that they die enroute to committing an illegal act. It's the illegal aliens fault unless you don't believe people are responsible for their actions.

 

[LilOlLady]

i'm not going to blame Obama for someone choosing to violate our borders and causing their own deaths

With his promise of amnesty, crossings has increased and deaths have increased with crossings. He is partially to blame. If he had not been elected, we may have someone who would enforce our immigration laws and they would not come here.