Liberals still blaming Bush after 30 months and trillions, when does it stop?s

[Mr. Shaman]

Live!!!

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[Mr. Shaman]

The economy created 18,000 jobs 30 months after Obama took office and 54 months after the Democrats took control of congress

When are we going to face the facts, its not working
when is the liberal going to join forces and put a stop to this failing administration and ut a stop to the blame GWB world?

Liberals won't take credit for their downfalls, they are idiots.

Gee....that almost makes sense; so specific.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

What is Obama supposed to do force companies to hire people?

Stop his sociAListic policies would be a good start.

Gee....that almost makes sense; so specific.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

History should not be forgotten.

It will always be the truth that Bush gamed the SEC with cronies who held back the protections written into GLB act so that the lenders could have their way with the economy and the housing market.


Why do you hate history being remembered?

Still lying I see. It was clinton, and the dimwits fault for the housing collapse which fueled the market collapse.

Yeah....sure......

....that's what happened.

 

[St.Blues]

Liberals still blaming Bush after 30 months and trillions, when does it stop?

I find it odd... Obama's spent more and continues to demand even more spending.
He and is pack of idiots never made sense.. They never will. That agenda is starting to loose steam at a fair pace now. Obama's push has been good for the country...."Fatal Exposure"....... Say bye bye to the liberals.
Say hello to the Constitution in 2012.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

The problem is you can’t blame Obama, either – not after only two and a half years.

The doctor/patient metaphor is still apropos: if you were shot in the leg and after 30 months still had a limp, whom would you blame, the doctors who are trying to heal you or the person who shot you in the leg? Clearly the latter.

Given the depth and severity of the December 2007 recession and its aftermath, we’ll more then likely be dealing with its effects well into the next administration, and perhaps the one after that.

You can blame Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, say presidents don’t have any effect on economic boom or bust, blame the Tooth Fairy if you like – bottom line, you can’t blame Obama.

And those who still insist on blaming Obama, it’s merely subjective partisan dogma.

No it is not partisan dogma. Obamaturd has as much responsibility, more, for the current economic woes than the past presidents. To hold him blameless is just more obamaturd but kissing.

Gee....that almost makes sense; so specific.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

What is Obama supposed to do force companies to hire people?

He already told companies to hire people whether they nee them or not...

"It is time for companies to step up'

CBS town hall meeting, May 11, 2011

ooooooooooooooooo.....creative-quoting.

"I was born a fuck-up." - George Bush; CBS town hall meeting, May 11, 2001

 

[JRK]

The economy created 18,000 jobs 30 months after Obama took office and 54 months after the Democrats took control of congress

When are we going to face the facts, its not working
when is the liberal going to join forces and put a stop to this failing administration and ut a stop to the blame GWB world?

Take away the trillions the wars cost. Take away the trillions in tax cuts. Take away the trillions from the drugs for votes bill Republicans passed throught reconcilliation. Take away the trillions it's going to cost to rebuild Iraq and pay for all the wounded soldiers.

I suspect will would still have Clinton's surplus. That's just a fact.

the wars cost less than the stimulus and Obams part of tarp cost
in fact the wars had cost less than the failed stimulus by its self
Little-known fact: Obama's failed stimulus program cost more than the Iraq war | Examiner Staff Writer | Beltway Confidential | Washington Examiner

revenue facts after the tax cuts

en Myths About the Bush Tax Cuts-and the Facts
Myth #1: Tax revenues remain low.
Fact: Tax revenues are above the historical average, even after the tax cuts.
Myth #2: The Bush tax cuts substantially reduced 2006 revenues and expanded the budget deficit.
Fact: Nearly all of the 2006 budget deficit resulted from additional spending above the baseline.
Myth #3: Supply-side economics assumes that all tax cuts immediately pay for themselves.
Fact: It assumes replenishment of some but not necessarily all lost revenues.
Myth #4: Capital gains tax cuts do not pay for themselves.
Fact: Capital gains tax revenues doubled following the 2003 tax cut.
Myth #5: The Bush tax cuts are to blame for the projected long-term budget deficits.
Fact: Projections show that entitlement costs will dwarf the projected large revenue increases.
Myth #6: Raising tax rates is the best way to raise revenue.
Fact: Tax revenues correlate with economic growth, not tax rates.
Myth #7: Reversing the upper-income tax cuts would raise substantial revenues.
Fact: The low-income tax cuts reduced revenues the most.
Myth #8: Tax cuts help the economy by "putting money in people's pockets."
Fact: Pro-growth tax cuts support incentives for productive behavior.
Myth #9: The Bush tax cuts have not helped the economy.
Fact: The economy responded strongly to the 2003 tax cuts.
Myth #10: The Bush tax cuts were tilted toward the rich.
Fact: The rich are now shouldering even more of the income tax burden.

http://www.heritage.org/Research/Reports/2007/01/Ten-Myths-About-the-Bush-Tax-Cuts

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

It's the classic definition of insanity....

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

And then there's the idiots still clamoring about the mythical Clinton surplus'.

They're the best!

 

[Mr. Shaman]

The economy created 18,000 jobs 30 months after Obama took office and 54 months after the Democrats took control of congress

When are we going to face the facts, its not working
when is the liberal going to join forces and put a stop to this failing administration and ut a stop to the blame GWB world?

Take away the trillions the wars cost. Take away the trillions in tax cuts. Take away the trillions from the drugs for votes bill Republicans passed throught reconcilliation. Take away the trillions it's going to cost to rebuild Iraq and pay for all the wounded soldiers.

I suspect will would still have Clinton's surplus. That's just a fact.

Whew!!!

Makin' The Bush Years disappear!!

Wouldn't that be a trip?!!

 

[Truthmatters]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodity_Futures_Modernization_Act_of_2000

The Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000 (CFMA) is United States federal legislation that officially ensured the deregulation of financial products known as over-the-counter derivatives. It clarified the law so that most over-the-counter (OTC) derivatives transactions between “sophisticated parties” would not be regulated as “futures” under the Commodity Exchange Act of 1936 (CEA) or as “securities” under the federal securities laws. Instead, the major dealers of those products (banks and securities firms) would continue to have their dealings in OTC derivatives supervised by their federal regulators under general “safety and soundness” standards. The Commodity Futures Trading Commission's desire to have “Functional regulation” of the market was also rejected. Instead, the CFTC would continue to do “entity-based supervision of OTC derivatives dealers.” [1]These derivatives, especially the credit default swap, would be at the heart of the financial crisis of 2008 and the subsequent recession.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Which regulations keep our economy from recovery?

How does Obama personally impose regulations?

How do income taxes paid by the very wealthy stall the economy?

What exactly makes Obama unfriendly to business?

Why are so many states and local governments in such poor fiscal shape?

Where did the hundreds of billions of dollars in pension funds go?

Who profited from the Great Recession? Who suffers?

Finally,why are some who act as if they know everything unable to construct a proper sentence offering their opinion in a clear and concise form?

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[Moonglow]

Don’t blame Obama for bad economy
William R. Morales, Henderson

Sunday, July 10, 2011 | 2:03 a.m.

By far, the Great Recession is the worst I’ve experienced during my 72 years. Particularly sad is the ignorance of the general public about underscored reasons for the problems we face today and the next five to 10 years.

Much cable chatter and clutter commentaries in newspapers pin the blame for high unemployment and lack of progress of any recovery on President Barack Obama. The mess is not of his doing. John McCain would be facing the same predicament had he been elected president.

As a Republican, I am thoroughly ashamed of the party I largely supported for 35 years. Our terrible fiscal mess resulted from failed policies and inept leadership during the George W. Bush administration. Presidents George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton left the country on a healthy course. Both set smart tax standards. Clinton balanced the federal budget and left a surplus.

George W. Bush left office as our economy plunged toward the brink of a depression. Bush spent money like a drunken sailor. He enacted a Medicare prescription drug program whose cost is approaching a trillion dollars without paying or budgeting for it. His Iraq adventure, a war of choice, passed the trillion-dollar mark and that tab still grows. The worst decision he made, however, was the $1.3 trillion tax cut.

The only Americans flourishing in our country are the very rich who continue to profit from the Bush tax cuts, which Republican legislators refuse to allow expire. They tell you that taxes kill job growth. If that were true, the $1.3 trillion tax cut should have generated more than 20 million jobs. History tells a different story.
Don

 

[Mr. Shaman]

History should not be forgotten.

It will always be the truth that Bush gamed the SEC with cronies who held back the protections written into GLB act so that the lenders could have their way with the economy and the housing market.


Why do you hate history being remembered?

OK, explain to me how that had anything to do with the the failure of the housing market.

Actually, it was that OTHER Texan; Phil Gramm.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKKvMJeBBSA]YouTube - ‪Q&A: Leslie & Andrew Cockburn‬‏[/ame]​

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000 (CFMA) is United States federal legislation that officially ensured the deregulation of financial products known as over-the-counter derivatives. It clarified the law so that most over-the-counter (OTC) derivatives transactions between “sophisticated parties” would not be regulated as “futures” under the Commodity Exchange Act of 1936 (CEA) or as “securities” under the federal securities laws. Instead, the major dealers of those products (banks and securities firms) would continue to have their dealings in OTC derivatives supervised by their federal regulators under general “safety and soundness” standards. The Commodity Futures Trading Commission's desire to have “Functional regulation” of the market was also rejected. Instead, the CFTC would continue to do “entity-based supervision of OTC derivatives dealers.” [1]These derivatives, especially the credit default swap, would be at the heart of the financial crisis of 2008 and the subsequent recession.

So, now you're blaming Clinton?

 

[Mr. Shaman]

The economy created 18,000 jobs 30 months after Obama took office and 54 months after the Democrats took control of congress

When are we going to face the facts, its not working
when is the liberal going to join forces and put a stop to this failing administration and ut a stop to the blame GWB world?

Take away the trillions the wars cost. Take away the trillions in tax cuts. Take away the trillions from the drugs for votes bill Republicans passed throught reconcilliation. Take away the trillions it's going to cost to rebuild Iraq and pay for all the wounded soldiers.

I suspect will would still have Clinton's surplus. That's just a fact.

Oh boy, more "Clinton's Surplus" bullshit.

What's it like to live a complete lie?

Clinton's RECORD....

....speaks for ITSELF!!!

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[Soggy in NOLA]

Don’t blame Obama for bad economy
William R. Morales, Henderson

Sunday, July 10, 2011 | 2:03 a.m.

By far, the Great Recession is the worst I’ve experienced during my 72 years. Particularly sad is the ignorance of the general public about underscored reasons for the problems we face today and the next five to 10 years.

Much cable chatter and clutter commentaries in newspapers pin the blame for high unemployment and lack of progress of any recovery on President Barack Obama. The mess is not of his doing. John McCain would be facing the same predicament had he been elected president.

As a Republican, I am thoroughly ashamed of the party I largely supported for 35 years. Our terrible fiscal mess resulted from failed policies and inept leadership during the George W. Bush administration. Presidents George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton left the country on a healthy course. Both set smart tax standards. Clinton balanced the federal budget and left a surplus.

George W. Bush left office as our economy plunged toward the brink of a depression. Bush spent money like a drunken sailor. He enacted a Medicare prescription drug program whose cost is approaching a trillion dollars without paying or budgeting for it. His Iraq adventure, a war of choice, passed the trillion-dollar mark and that tab still grows. The worst decision he made, however, was the $1.3 trillion tax cut.

The only Americans flourishing in our country are the very rich who continue to profit from the Bush tax cuts, which Republican legislators refuse to allow expire. They tell you that taxes kill job growth. If that were true, the $1.3 trillion tax cut should have generated more than 20 million jobs. History tells a different story.
Don

Oh this never gets old. 235 years and it all get's down to Bush.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

I hear Bill Clinton put a man on Mars too.

Chances are...you read that in.....

"News of the World"

Buh-BYE, RUPE!!!!!

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See Rupert Run!
RUN, RUPERT, RUN!!!

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[Mr. Shaman]

The problem is you can’t blame Obama, either – not after only two and a half years.

The doctor/patient metaphor is still apropos: if you were shot in the leg and after 30 months still had a limp, whom would you blame, the doctors who are trying to heal you or the person who shot you in the leg? Clearly the latter.

Given the depth and severity of the December 2007 recession and its aftermath, we’ll more then likely be dealing with its effects well into the next administration, and perhaps the one after that.

You can blame Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, say presidents don’t have any effect on economic boom or bust, blame the Tooth Fairy if you like – bottom line, you can’t blame Obama.

And those who still insist on blaming Obama, it’s merely subjective partisan dogma.

But if that doctor said they would heal you for oh, 5 trillion dollars and things got worse then you would have the case of Obama on your hands. Your story has nothing at all to do with reality in this case.

Aw, jeez......"conservative"-hypotheticals.

How helpful.