Liberals: Be Not Offended!

[PoliticalChic]

oks like there's hope for you.

BUT.....you should take a look at the best recession fighter in US history...Warren G. Harding.....

...he took a recession comparable to the one FDR fudged....and beat it in a year and a half.


Know how?
Cut government spending AND cut taxes big time.

That's because he was a Republican....

Not one of these:

But he did identify what he called “tactical lessons.” He let himself look too much like “the same old tax-and-spend liberal Democrat.” http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/17/magazine/17obama-t.html

More rightwing propaganda.

Harding only cut taxes because taxes had been raised to pay for WWI, and WWI was over.

So THAT'S why you're known as NYLiar!


1." America’s greatest depression fighter was Warren Gamaliel Harding. An Ohio senator when he was elected president in 1920, he followed Woodrow Wilson who got America into World War I, ...Harding inherited the mess, in particular the post-World War I depression – almost as severe, from peak to trough, as the Great Contraction from 1929 to 1933, that FDR inherited and prolonged.

Richard K. Vedder and Lowell E. Gallaway, in their book Out of Work (1993), noted that the magnitude of the 1920 depression "exceeded that for the Great Depression of the following decade for several quarters." The estimated gross national product plunged 24% from $91.5 billion in 1920 to $69.6 billion in 1921. The number of unemployed people jumped from 2.1 million in 1920 to 4.9 million in 1921.

2. Compared to FDR, Harding had a much better understanding of how an economy works. Harding, wrote historian Robert K. Murray, in The Harding Era (1969), "always decried high taxes, government waste, and excessive governmental interference in the private sector of the economy. In February 1920, shortly after announcing his candidacy, he advocated a cut in government expenditures and stated that government ought to ‘strike the shackles from industry.’ ‘We need vastly more freedom than we do regulation,’ he said. Surprisingly, big business took very little notice of him at the time."

3. One of Harding’s campaign slogans was "less government in business," and it served him well. Harding embraced the advice of Treasury Secretary Andrew Mellon and called for tax cuts in his first message to Congress, April 12, 1921. The highest taxes, on corporate revenues and "excess" profits, were to be cut. Personal income taxes were to be left as is, with a top rate of 8% of incomes above $4,000. Harding recognized the crucial importance of encouraging investment essential for growth and jobs, something that FDR never did.

4. "Progressives" were astonishingly blind to Harding’s achievements. Newspaperman William Allen White called Harding "almost unbelievably ill-informed." Historian Allen wrote that Harding’s "mind was vague and fuzzy. Its quality was revealed in the clogged style of his public addresses, in his choice of turgid and maladroit language (‘non-involvement’ in European affairs)." Ironically, Allen wrote this in 1931, when the Great Depression had been going for two years. Harding had the depression of 1920 licked in a year and a half, but under the "progressive" FDR, the Great Depression would persisted throughout the 1930s, until FDR began conscripting millions of young men for the armed forces.

America’s Greatest Depression*Fighter by Jim Powell

http://archive.lewrockwell.com/orig4/powell-jim4.html

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/226645/not-so-great-depression/jim-powell

So why has Harding been rated as America's worst or near worst presidents since they began rating presidents back in 1948. And Harding's worst crime was not giving navy oil rights to Standard Oil but his incompetence. Harding was so bad that even Bush, rated fifth worst, doesn't outdo Harding.

1. Harding was the greatest recession fighter.
It was proven.

2. FDR was a failure in that endeavor....and you're attempting to hide that fact....usual for you.

3.Answer to your query.....Teapot Dome....unrelated to the issue in question.


Now back under your rock.

Bullshit. We had a recession of more than a year during Harding's presidency:

1923 – 24 recession May 1923 – June 1924 1 year, 2 months 2 years From the depression of 1920–21 until the Great Depression, an era dubbed the Roaring Twenties, the economy was generally expanding. Industrial production declined in 1923–24, but on the whole this was a mild recession. - See more at: A Long History of Recessions The Business Owner

Barnyard vulgarity...a sure sign you know you're lying.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Liar....

Reagan did more than pay for it.....ten times more.

1. Under Reagan, the debt went up $1.7 trillion, from $900 billion to $2.6 trillion.
2. But….the national wealth went up $ 17 trillion
3. Reagan's near-trillion-dollar bulge in defense spending transformed the global balance of power in favor of capitalism. Spurring a stock-market, energy, venture-capital, real-estate and employment boom, the Reagan tax-rate cuts and other pro-enterprise policies added some $17 trillion to America's private-sector assets, dwarfing the trillion-dollar rise in public-sector deficits and creating 45 million net new jobs at rising wages and salaries.

George Gilder The Real Reagan Lesson for Romney-Ryan - WSJ


Reaganomics - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

You lie AGAIN. Reagan ADDED to the national debt. He didn't pay ANY of it down.

Stop lying.

Learn to read, NYLiar....

George Gilder The Real Reagan Lesson for Romney-Ryan - WSJ


Reaganomics - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

If Reagan paid for the spending of his presidency why did the national debt increase from 1980 to 1989?

NO irrelevant links. Explain your claim in your own words.

You've claimed that Reagan didn't any anything to the national debt. You're ignorant.

"You've claimed that Reagan didn't any (sic) anything to the national debt. You're ignorant."

I never said any such thing.

Yes, actually you did:

"Reagan did more than pay for it.....ten times more."

...referring to the cost of escalating the Cold War.

Actually, I didn't.

Find 'national debt' in there, Liar.


I said this: "….the national wealth went up $ 17 trillion."

AND I provided links to prove it.



That's all right....you didn't lose your 'liar' title.

 

[NYcarbineer]

You lie AGAIN. Reagan ADDED to the national debt. He didn't pay ANY of it down.

Stop lying.

Learn to read, NYLiar....

George Gilder The Real Reagan Lesson for Romney-Ryan - WSJ


Reaganomics - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

If Reagan paid for the spending of his presidency why did the national debt increase from 1980 to 1989?

NO irrelevant links. Explain your claim in your own words.

You've claimed that Reagan didn't any anything to the national debt. You're ignorant.

"You've claimed that Reagan didn't any (sic) anything to the national debt. You're ignorant."

I never said any such thing.

Yes, actually you did:

"Reagan did more than pay for it.....ten times more."

...referring to the cost of escalating the Cold War.

Actually, I didn't.

Find 'national debt' in there, Liar.


I said this: "….the national wealth went up $ 17 trillion."

AND I provided links to prove it.



That's all right....you didn't lose your 'liar' title.

The national wealth does not pay the government's bills. The taxes on that wealth do. It's actually a worse reflection on Reagan that you cite that number,

because what it is saying is that for all the wealth generated by the US economy in the eighties, the Reagan administration STILL failed to enact a tax policy on that massive wealth that would pay the government's bills.

Why did Reagan run such massive deficits in a time of prosperity that should have easily balanced the budget?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Learn to read, NYLiar....

George Gilder The Real Reagan Lesson for Romney-Ryan - WSJ


Reaganomics - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

If Reagan paid for the spending of his presidency why did the national debt increase from 1980 to 1989?

NO irrelevant links. Explain your claim in your own words.

You've claimed that Reagan didn't any anything to the national debt. You're ignorant.

"You've claimed that Reagan didn't any (sic) anything to the national debt. You're ignorant."

I never said any such thing.

Yes, actually you did:

"Reagan did more than pay for it.....ten times more."

...referring to the cost of escalating the Cold War.

Actually, I didn't.

Find 'national debt' in there, Liar.


I said this: "….the national wealth went up $ 17 trillion."

AND I provided links to prove it.



That's all right....you didn't lose your 'liar' title.

The national wealth does not pay the government's bills. The taxes on that wealth do. It's actually a worse reflection on Reagan that you cite that number,

because what it is saying is that for all the wealth generated by the US economy in the eighties, the Reagan administration STILL failed to enact a tax policy on that massive wealth that would pay the government's bills.

Why did Reagan run such massive deficits in a time of prosperity that should have easily balanced the budget?

"The national wealth does not pay the government's bills."

Gads...you are a fool.

Where does the government get it's money.....

....earn it???????

 

[NYcarbineer]

If Reagan paid for the spending of his presidency why did the national debt increase from 1980 to 1989?

NO irrelevant links. Explain your claim in your own words.

You've claimed that Reagan didn't any anything to the national debt. You're ignorant.

"You've claimed that Reagan didn't any (sic) anything to the national debt. You're ignorant."

I never said any such thing.

Yes, actually you did:

"Reagan did more than pay for it.....ten times more."

...referring to the cost of escalating the Cold War.

Actually, I didn't.

Find 'national debt' in there, Liar.


I said this: "….the national wealth went up $ 17 trillion."

AND I provided links to prove it.



That's all right....you didn't lose your 'liar' title.

The national wealth does not pay the government's bills. The taxes on that wealth do. It's actually a worse reflection on Reagan that you cite that number,

because what it is saying is that for all the wealth generated by the US economy in the eighties, the Reagan administration STILL failed to enact a tax policy on that massive wealth that would pay the government's bills.

Why did Reagan run such massive deficits in a time of prosperity that should have easily balanced the budget?

"The national wealth does not pay the government's bills."

Gads...you are a fool.

Where does the government get it's money.....

....earn it???????

It doesn't if there isn't a tax on it. Jesus Christ you're stupid. REAGAN CUT TAXES ON THE NATIONAL WEALTH.

Oh, and while we're on the subject, 17 trillion is your big Reagan number, you proof of his success?

Read the chart in the link below. From 2010 to 2014, US wealth increased by 27 billion, yes, under Obama.



kaboom!

National wealth - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

 

[danielpalos]

If Reagan paid for the spending of his presidency why did the national debt increase from 1980 to 1989?

NO irrelevant links. Explain your claim in your own words.

You've claimed that Reagan didn't any anything to the national debt. You're ignorant.

"You've claimed that Reagan didn't any (sic) anything to the national debt. You're ignorant."

I never said any such thing.

Yes, actually you did:

"Reagan did more than pay for it.....ten times more."

...referring to the cost of escalating the Cold War.

Actually, I didn't.

Find 'national debt' in there, Liar.


I said this: "….the national wealth went up $ 17 trillion."

AND I provided links to prove it.



That's all right....you didn't lose your 'liar' title.

The national wealth does not pay the government's bills. The taxes on that wealth do. It's actually a worse reflection on Reagan that you cite that number,

because what it is saying is that for all the wealth generated by the US economy in the eighties, the Reagan administration STILL failed to enact a tax policy on that massive wealth that would pay the government's bills.

Why did Reagan run such massive deficits in a time of prosperity that should have easily balanced the budget?

"The national wealth does not pay the government's bills."

Gads...you are a fool.

Where does the government get it's money.....

....earn it???????

Is Capitalism really that Useless to the Right; it is no wonder some on the left don't want to have to provide Any effort.

We have a Commerce Clause and an official Mint at our disposal; only infidels, protestants, and renegades to Capitalism, have a problem with making more money with the Peoples' money.

 

[HenryBHough]

That a single liberal goes to bed feeling unoffended is an indictment of all conservatives!

 

[NYcarbineer]

I guess then the OP is unoffended by the latest rant of her idol Ann Coulter:

Coulter: I Don’t Care If Donald Trump Performs Abortions in the White House

Coulter I Don t Care If Donald Trump Performs Abortions Mediaite

 

[Jantje_Smit]

Why did Reagan run such massive deficits in a time of prosperity that should have easily balanced the budget?

No need to get upset about saint Ronnie and his deficits, comrade.

 

[The Rabbi]

Why did Reagan run such massive deficits in a time of prosperity that should have easily balanced the budget?

No need to get upset about saint Ronnie and his deficits, comrade.

Obama's deficits are bigger than Reagan's entire budget. True fact!

 

[NYcarbineer]

Why did Reagan run such massive deficits in a time of prosperity that should have easily balanced the budget?

No need to get upset about saint Ronnie and his deficits, comrade.

Obama's deficits are bigger than Reagan's entire budget. True fact!

Not true.

The 2014 deficit was about 490 billion.

Reagan's smallest budget was 590 billion.

 

[danielpalos]

I guess then the OP is unoffended by the latest rant of her idol Ann Coulter:

Coulter: I Don’t Care If Donald Trump Performs Abortions in the White House

Coulter I Don t Care If Donald Trump Performs Abortions Mediaite

good for her.

i don't want to have to care about women's issues usually, unless women are using sex on me, not only for practice but also for fun.

 

[peach174]

Why did Reagan run such massive deficits in a time of prosperity that should have easily balanced the budget?

No need to get upset about saint Ronnie and his deficits, comrade.

Obama's deficits are bigger than Reagan's entire budget. True fact!

Not true.

The 2014 deficit was about 490 billion.

Reagan's smallest budget was 590 billion.

Democrats controlled the House which deals with spending and the budget from 1955 to 1995.

Republicans controlled the House from 2010 till now and it is they who have done the cutting, just like they did under Clinton.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Why did Reagan run such massive deficits in a time of prosperity that should have easily balanced the budget?

No need to get upset about saint Ronnie and his deficits, comrade.

Obama's deficits are bigger than Reagan's entire budget. True fact!

Not true.

The 2014 deficit was about 490 billion.

Reagan's smallest budget was 590 billion.

Democrats controlled the House which deals with spending and the budget from 1955 to 1997.

Republicans controlled the House from 2010 till now and it is they who have done the cutting, just like they did under Clinton.

Wrong.

 

[peach174]

Why did Reagan run such massive deficits in a time of prosperity that should have easily balanced the budget?

No need to get upset about saint Ronnie and his deficits, comrade.

Obama's deficits are bigger than Reagan's entire budget. True fact!

Not true.

The 2014 deficit was about 490 billion.

Reagan's smallest budget was 590 billion.

Democrats controlled the House which deals with spending and the budget from 1955 to 1997.

Republicans controlled the House from 2010 till now and it is they who have done the cutting, just like they did under Clinton.

Wrong.

Right

 

[danielpalos]

as a liberal, i refuse to be offended if conservative chics come up to me and bear true witness about wanting to practice.

 

[cnm]

Are you aware of the fact that Leftism is the most dynamic of religions?

Conservatism seems the most entrenched of delusions.

 

[cnm]

Typical loony leftist. It's all about you and your adolescent fantasy world. Grow da fuck up, Princess.

Are you offended?

 

[cnm]

I would also remind you that the bottom 49% of American earners pay nothing. Zippo. Zilch. Nada. They get all the same goodies - US military, gov't, courts, interstate highways, etc. - for free, as well as any entitlements to which their economic condition qualifies.

And the rich get a government funded labour source, while you pretend federal government and taxes are the only government and taxes.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Are you aware of the fact that Leftism is the most dynamic of religions?

Conservatism seems the most entrenched of delusions.

Let's review:

1. The Founders of this nation, one based on individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government, were Classical Liberals, that which would be called conservatives today.


2. Modern Liberals bear no relationship to the above....and are the socialists who stole the name 'liberal,' and whose beliefs are based on Hegel and Germanic political philosophy....e.g.,

1. 1. The Germans have a history of embracing authoritarian rule. As the German philosopher Hegel said, “The state says … you must obey …. The state has rights against the individual; its members have obligations, among them that of obeying without protest” (Ralf Dahrendorf, Society and Democracy in Germany).