"Leave the Mask, Take the Cannoli"

[Rigby5]

There is no question that trying to end an epidemic with social distancing can not possibly ever work,

back your claim up with science is all ask

Not True. It worked in NYC. Trouble is the rest of the country did not social distance.

Call the Governor of Utah right now and convince him to let the epidemic spread unabated. Their medical professionals are overloaded right now with a slow infection rate. You want to speed it up and overwhelm the healthcare system. He’d be right to laugh at you and Slam the phone down.

Social distancing did not and can not work in NYC or anywhere.
As long as anyone still has the virus, then you still have the epidemic and you not only have a monthly death toll, but you start over again as if it were March once again, as soon as you stop doing social distancing.
So you have to do it forever.

The only people with any significant hospitalization needs are the elderly, and you can easily isolate them for a month or so while you wipe out the virus with herd immunity.

Ending the epidemic as quickly as possible always results in the least flooding of the health care system.
In theory you might even be able to end the epidemic in less than a month.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Anyone hear about Trumps great health care plan ?? OR was he just FOS again?

Changing the subject?

So that means I win again?

 

[Rigby5]

People under 30 who are healthy, essentially have zero death rate, so they can easily achieve herd immunity without any significant death toll.

Look at the number of children in that 225,000 death toll we have now.
It is only about 100.
So clearly children already have a high inherent resistance that will greatly help achieve herd immunity without many deaths.

 

[eddiew37]

Anyone hear about Trumps great health care plan ?? OR was he just FOS again?

Changing the subject?

So that means I win again?

You can win as many times as you like PC as long as the low life garbage in our WH is gone soon with his family of grifters

 

[PoliticalChic]

Anyone hear about Trumps great health care plan ?? OR was he just FOS again?

Changing the subject?

So that means I win again?

You can win as many times as you like PC as long as the low life garbage in our WH is gone soon with his family of grifters

"...the low life garbage in our WH is gone soon with his family of grifters."


You win today's award in the category of "Unintentional Humor," eddie.


You hope for the coronation of the man, and family, in the pay of Communist China, and several other foreign governments.

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Your post just became a boomerang.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

So you have to do it forever.

you never heard of developing a vaccine.

no one should listen to your non-science. It’s nonsense

 

[Kondor3]

...The rate at which infections happen we should want to accelerate to happen as quickly as possible, because that results in the least number of deaths. If it takes 23 million infections to achieve herd immunity and end the epidemic once and for all, then that should be done quickly. The more quickly we make that happen, the fewer deaths there were be because we can isolate the elderly and vulnerable for a short time.

So, are you volunteering yourself and your family to lead by example?

 

[PoliticalChic]

As the wearing of a face mask is clearly less adherence to science than it is to homage and obedience to your political masters, it might be important to recognize the significance of this date.....the passing of the author of your obedience.

Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel, (born August 27, 1770, Stuttgart, Württemberg [Germany]—died November 14, 1831, Berlin), German philosopher who developed a dialectical scheme that emphasized the progress of history and of ideas from thesis to antithesis and thence to a synthesis.
Britannica.com


Hegel said “The state says … you must obey …. The state has rights against the individual; its members have obligations, among them that of obeying without protest”


That, of course, is central to Democrat Party doctrine, as well.

 

[anynameyouwish]

1. There is a sadly true adage, that Liberal governance has only two dimensions: either banning or mandating.
Democrats/Liberals/progressives.....these are not people who embrace liberty, freedom, individualism.


2. Which brings us to the mandating of masks.
The Democrats may not know whether masks work or not, but they don't care. It's simply about making the populace bend the neck and the knee to their power.
I was surprised and pleased to learn of a restaurant in Huntington Beach, California which does not allow masks. DOES NOT ALLOW MASKS!!!!
\
"HUNTINGTON BEACH, Calif. — California’s COVID-19 industry guidelines require face covering at most businesses that have been allowed to reopen. Restaurants are no exception.

What You Need To Know

• Basilico’s Pasta e Vino employees do not wear face coverings
• They have an anti-mask policy
• The restaurant has also always offered in-restaurant dining
• The Huntington Beach restaurant has not changed how it does business during the pandemic

However, customers and employees of Basilico’s Pasta e Vino do not wear face coverings. The Huntington Beach restaurant said nothing has changed about how they do business during the pandemic – including a no-mask policy.

“Definitely not. Uh, only if you’re ugly,” bartender Josh Miller said.

Miller has worked at Basilico’s Pasta e Vino since 2017. Since mid-March, when the state first shut down non-essential businesses, Basilico’s has stayed open.
They have also always offered in-restaurant dining.
All along, the restaurant has stuck to their stance on masks. They are not allowed at Basilico’s.

A red circle with a line drawn through it on top of a black and white graphic of a face with a mask on it is on display in the windows of the restaurant. The dining spot even remind customers of its no-mask policy with a play on a famous line from the movie The Godfather."

OC Restaurant Says No Masks Allowed: "Leave the Mask, Take the Cannoli"

Basilico's Pasta e Vino has a no-mask policy.

spectrumnews1.com

3. "We can see that all elements of the socialist ideal--the abolition of private property, family, hierarchies; the hostility toward religion--could be regarded as a manifestation of one basic principle: the suppression of individuality.... All this is inspired by one principle--the destruction of individuality or, at least, its suppression to the point where it would cease to be a social force. "
Igor Shafarevich
The Socialist Phenomenon

The Socialist Phenomenon

4. Here, the New England Journal of Medicine:

"We know that wearing a mask outside health care facilities offers little, if any, protection from infection. Public health authorities define a significant exposure to Covid-19 as face-to-face contact within 6 feet with a patient with symptomatic Covid-19 that is sustained for at least a few minutes (and some say more than 10 minutes or even 30 minutes). The chance of catching Covid-19 from a passing interaction in a public space is therefore minimal. In many cases, the desire for widespread masking is a reflexive reaction to anxiety over the pandemic. "

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp2006372

5.

when you evangelical christian fascists take complete control of the government will you BAN atheism and islam or MANDATE than they can't vote or run for public office?

 

[BothWings]

Taxes decreased.

Did you vote for Obama both times?

You may be fixable since you don’t list race Issues, and voted for Obama, sexual preferences Gay issues, religion and abortion rights in your grievance against the Democrat you said you voted for. You sound anti war which is mostly a Democrat position,

So.....

Does every new administration need to reduce taxes every term until taxes are reduced to zero for upper middle class workers and below?

Is Biden OK to keep taxes for incomes at $400k and under at current levels but increase taxes above that figure to start reducing the deficit as Obama’s second term was doing?

Did Obama turn America upside down so liberals, leftists, democrats, New World Order fascists...whatever..and the media could rape America up its ass?

I have always voted democrat, and voted for Obama both times, and was very disappointed.
I voted for Obama mostly because he said he was against war, but instead doubled our wars by attacking Qaddafi in Libya, Assad in Syria, Morsi in Egypt, the Taliban in Afghanistan, etc. We even illegally imposed economic sanctions against Iran and illegally assassinated bin Laden in Pakistan.

Most of those were war crimes Obama should have been jailed for.

And as for health care, the problem is that 3rd party payer caused the provider charges to double, as well as adding a whole layer of additional skimming. ACA did nothing at all to improve any of that, and it still is tied to employers and private for profit insurance companies, who are strangling out productivity and marketability overseas.

Obama was given a recession to deal with so I can't blame him for the high taxes and additional borrowing, but he certainly did not use a sustainable model. And the biggest complaint against Trump is that he continued Obama's model of borrowing to boost the economy. Bad idea, especially when it is health care that is crashing the economy.

I think alot of your details are spot on...but I might argue with your view of the big picture...in that Obama didnt just inherit a bad economy from Bush, it was an entirely planned economic chess move. Both Bushs, theClinton's, Obama, and numerous others are all part of the same politic racketeering syndicate the elder Bush coined "New World Order". They all worked like the team from Mission Impossible to turn things upside down and backwards to create a globalist war $ machine. Elder Bush and Bill Clinton were bosom buddies. Elder Bush ties to the CIA enabled him to pull incredibly sneaky political chess moves with no accountability. Clinton, Bush Jr and Obama all mentioned the New World Order like they totally endorsed it. It is documented, not.conspiracy theory. Bush Jr created the perfect conditions for Obama to legislate quai-socialist reforms and executive orders. He didnt just haphazardly inherit a bad economy. It was a game plan for globalist control of the American economy. Trump is the only one in 30 years who was an individual for himself and not part of that military industrial complex conspiracy.

 

[PoliticalChic]

1. There is a sadly true adage, that Liberal governance has only two dimensions: either banning or mandating.
Democrats/Liberals/progressives.....these are not people who embrace liberty, freedom, individualism.


2. Which brings us to the mandating of masks.
The Democrats may not know whether masks work or not, but they don't care. It's simply about making the populace bend the neck and the knee to their power.
I was surprised and pleased to learn of a restaurant in Huntington Beach, California which does not allow masks. DOES NOT ALLOW MASKS!!!!
\
"HUNTINGTON BEACH, Calif. — California’s COVID-19 industry guidelines require face covering at most businesses that have been allowed to reopen. Restaurants are no exception.

What You Need To Know

• Basilico’s Pasta e Vino employees do not wear face coverings
• They have an anti-mask policy
• The restaurant has also always offered in-restaurant dining
• The Huntington Beach restaurant has not changed how it does business during the pandemic

However, customers and employees of Basilico’s Pasta e Vino do not wear face coverings. The Huntington Beach restaurant said nothing has changed about how they do business during the pandemic – including a no-mask policy.

“Definitely not. Uh, only if you’re ugly,” bartender Josh Miller said.

Miller has worked at Basilico’s Pasta e Vino since 2017. Since mid-March, when the state first shut down non-essential businesses, Basilico’s has stayed open.
They have also always offered in-restaurant dining.
All along, the restaurant has stuck to their stance on masks. They are not allowed at Basilico’s.

A red circle with a line drawn through it on top of a black and white graphic of a face with a mask on it is on display in the windows of the restaurant. The dining spot even remind customers of its no-mask policy with a play on a famous line from the movie The Godfather."

OC Restaurant Says No Masks Allowed: "Leave the Mask, Take the Cannoli"

Basilico's Pasta e Vino has a no-mask policy.

spectrumnews1.com

3. "We can see that all elements of the socialist ideal--the abolition of private property, family, hierarchies; the hostility toward religion--could be regarded as a manifestation of one basic principle: the suppression of individuality.... All this is inspired by one principle--the destruction of individuality or, at least, its suppression to the point where it would cease to be a social force. "
Igor Shafarevich
The Socialist Phenomenon

The Socialist Phenomenon

4. Here, the New England Journal of Medicine:

"We know that wearing a mask outside health care facilities offers little, if any, protection from infection. Public health authorities define a significant exposure to Covid-19 as face-to-face contact within 6 feet with a patient with symptomatic Covid-19 that is sustained for at least a few minutes (and some say more than 10 minutes or even 30 minutes). The chance of catching Covid-19 from a passing interaction in a public space is therefore minimal. In many cases, the desire for widespread masking is a reflexive reaction to anxiety over the pandemic. "

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp2006372

5.

when you evangelical christian fascists take complete control of the government will you BAN atheism and islam or MANDATE than they can't vote or run for public office?

Unlike you Democrat/Fascist/Liberals, conservatives don't ban....or mandate.


If you have any doubts as to the lengths the Fascists will go to stamp out any opposing voices, note that Jennifer Rubin, at WaPo, Jake Tapper, and AOC are calling for lists of trump supporters, to inform employers to make sure they never work again.

​

First AOC’s ‘list,’ now CNN warns of blacklisting Trump team

Just three days after liberal New York Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez urged the creation of a list of President Trump’s “sycophants,” a top CNN host has piled on with a warning that Trump aides battling the president’s legal case could see their job possibilities dry up.
www.washingtonexaminer.com

 

[Kondor3]

...Trump aides battling the president’s legal case could see their job possibilities dry up...

Well... that's understandable... I mean... after all... not even Rump likes Losers... he likes people who Win... right?

So much 'winning'...

 

[PoliticalChic]

"The Danish Study: Face masks showed no impact protecting wearers against COVID-19
This is the study you won't find on many mainstream media outlets. Rare kudos to the NY Times for publishing it, albeit with plenty of "ya, buts" throughout.

About 4,860 participants completed the study. The researchers had hoped that masks would cut the infection rate by half among wearers. Instead, 42 people in the mask group, or 1.8 percent, got infected, compared with 53 in the unmasked group, or 2.1 percent. The difference was not statistically significant.


“Our study gives an indication of how much you gain from wearing a mask,” said Dr. Henning Bundgaard, lead author of the study and a cardiologist at the University of Copenhagen. “Not a lot.”

Dr. Mette Kalager, a researcher at Telemark Hospital in Norway and the Harvard School of Public Health, was persuaded. The study showed that “although there might be a symbolic effect,” she wrote in an email, “the effect of wearing a mask does not substantially reduce risk” for wearers."

The Danish Study: Face masks showed no impact protecting wearers against COVID-19

Have you heard of the Danish Study on face masks and COVID-19? If you get your news from mainstream media,

noqreport.com

 

[eddiew37]

"The Danish Study: Face masks showed no impact protecting wearers against COVID-19
This is the study you won't find on many mainstream media outlets. Rare kudos to the NY Times for publishing it, albeit with plenty of "ya, buts" throughout.

About 4,860 participants completed the study. The researchers had hoped that masks would cut the infection rate by half among wearers. Instead, 42 people in the mask group, or 1.8 percent, got infected, compared with 53 in the unmasked group, or 2.1 percent. The difference was not statistically significant.


“Our study gives an indication of how much you gain from wearing a mask,” said Dr. Henning Bundgaard, lead author of the study and a cardiologist at the University of Copenhagen. “Not a lot.”

Dr. Mette Kalager, a researcher at Telemark Hospital in Norway and the Harvard School of Public Health, was persuaded. The study showed that “although there might be a symbolic effect,” she wrote in an email, “the effect of wearing a mask does not substantially reduce risk” for wearers."

The Danish Study: Face masks showed no impact protecting wearers against COVID-19

Have you heard of the Danish Study on face masks and COVID-19? If you get your news from mainstream media,

noqreport.com

You take their word Don't wear a mask I'll go with Fauci RIP

 

[PoliticalChic]

"The Danish Study: Face masks showed no impact protecting wearers against COVID-19
This is the study you won't find on many mainstream media outlets. Rare kudos to the NY Times for publishing it, albeit with plenty of "ya, buts" throughout.

About 4,860 participants completed the study. The researchers had hoped that masks would cut the infection rate by half among wearers. Instead, 42 people in the mask group, or 1.8 percent, got infected, compared with 53 in the unmasked group, or 2.1 percent. The difference was not statistically significant.


“Our study gives an indication of how much you gain from wearing a mask,” said Dr. Henning Bundgaard, lead author of the study and a cardiologist at the University of Copenhagen. “Not a lot.”

Dr. Mette Kalager, a researcher at Telemark Hospital in Norway and the Harvard School of Public Health, was persuaded. The study showed that “although there might be a symbolic effect,” she wrote in an email, “the effect of wearing a mask does not substantially reduce risk” for wearers."

The Danish Study: Face masks showed no impact protecting wearers against COVID-19

Have you heard of the Danish Study on face masks and COVID-19? If you get your news from mainstream media,

noqreport.com

You take their word Don't wear a mask I'll go with Fauci RIP

Sounds fair.


While we're waiting to see the effect, how about you answer the question I asked you a while back......what are the symptoms of the Wuhan Red Death?

 

[eddiew37]

"The Danish Study: Face masks showed no impact protecting wearers against COVID-19
This is the study you won't find on many mainstream media outlets. Rare kudos to the NY Times for publishing it, albeit with plenty of "ya, buts" throughout.

About 4,860 participants completed the study. The researchers had hoped that masks would cut the infection rate by half among wearers. Instead, 42 people in the mask group, or 1.8 percent, got infected, compared with 53 in the unmasked group, or 2.1 percent. The difference was not statistically significant.


“Our study gives an indication of how much you gain from wearing a mask,” said Dr. Henning Bundgaard, lead author of the study and a cardiologist at the University of Copenhagen. “Not a lot.”

Dr. Mette Kalager, a researcher at Telemark Hospital in Norway and the Harvard School of Public Health, was persuaded. The study showed that “although there might be a symbolic effect,” she wrote in an email, “the effect of wearing a mask does not substantially reduce risk” for wearers."

The Danish Study: Face masks showed no impact protecting wearers against COVID-19

Have you heard of the Danish Study on face masks and COVID-19? If you get your news from mainstream media,

noqreport.com

You take their word Don't wear a mask I'll go with Fauci RIP

Sounds fair.


While we're waiting to see the effect, how about you answer the question I asked you a while back......what are the symptoms of the Wuhan Red Death?

Never studied that Don't forget I'm from Brooklyn

 

[PoliticalChic]

"The Danish Study: Face masks showed no impact protecting wearers against COVID-19
This is the study you won't find on many mainstream media outlets. Rare kudos to the NY Times for publishing it, albeit with plenty of "ya, buts" throughout.

About 4,860 participants completed the study. The researchers had hoped that masks would cut the infection rate by half among wearers. Instead, 42 people in the mask group, or 1.8 percent, got infected, compared with 53 in the unmasked group, or 2.1 percent. The difference was not statistically significant.


“Our study gives an indication of how much you gain from wearing a mask,” said Dr. Henning Bundgaard, lead author of the study and a cardiologist at the University of Copenhagen. “Not a lot.”

Dr. Mette Kalager, a researcher at Telemark Hospital in Norway and the Harvard School of Public Health, was persuaded. The study showed that “although there might be a symbolic effect,” she wrote in an email, “the effect of wearing a mask does not substantially reduce risk” for wearers."

The Danish Study: Face masks showed no impact protecting wearers against COVID-19

Have you heard of the Danish Study on face masks and COVID-19? If you get your news from mainstream media,

noqreport.com

You take their word Don't wear a mask I'll go with Fauci RIP

Sounds fair.


While we're waiting to see the effect, how about you answer the question I asked you a while back......what are the symptoms of the Wuhan Red Death?

Never studied that Don't forget I'm from Brooklyn

Here.....let me help you, as one Brooklynite to another....

"The First Lady explained how she experienced “body aches, a cough and headaches, and felt extremely tired most of the time”.
Melania Trump describes coronavirus 'rollercoaster' as son Barron also tested positive



Now......what are the symptoms of the regular ol' seasonal flu?

 

[NotfooledbyW]

"The Danish Study: Face masks showed no impact protecting wearers against COVID-19
This is the study you won't find on many mainstream media outlets. Rare kudos to the NY Times for publishing it, albeit with plenty of "ya, buts" throughout.

About 4,860 participants completed the study. The researchers had hoped that masks would cut the infection rate by half among wearers. Instead, 42 people in the mask group, or 1.8 percent, got infected, compared with 53 in the unmasked group, or 2.1 percent. The difference was not statistically significant.


“Our study gives an indication of how much you gain from wearing a mask,” said Dr. Henning Bundgaard, lead author of the study and a cardiologist at the University of Copenhagen. “Not a lot.”

Dr. Mette Kalager, a researcher at Telemark Hospital in Norway and the Harvard School of Public Health, was persuaded. The study showed that “although there might be a symbolic effect,” she wrote in an email, “the effect of wearing a mask does not substantially reduce risk” for wearers."

The Danish Study: Face masks showed no impact protecting wearers against COVID-19

Have you heard of the Danish Study on face masks and COVID-19? If you get your news from mainstream media,

noqreport.com

You are a Trump duped idiot. Wearing a mask is not to protect the wearer. It is to protect the community to slow the spread where people are forced to intermingle close together indoors.

I never wear a mask outdoors because I never get within ten feet of anybody.

Of course you idiot - if I’m out walking the dog but never getting close or talking to others outdoors while wearing a mask it would not make a difference at all because I’m not going to get infected either way with or without a mask. Who knows how the Danes behaved last April and summer..

 

[eddiew37]

"The Danish Study: Face masks showed no impact protecting wearers against COVID-19
This is the study you won't find on many mainstream media outlets. Rare kudos to the NY Times for publishing it, albeit with plenty of "ya, buts" throughout.

About 4,860 participants completed the study. The researchers had hoped that masks would cut the infection rate by half among wearers. Instead, 42 people in the mask group, or 1.8 percent, got infected, compared with 53 in the unmasked group, or 2.1 percent. The difference was not statistically significant.


“Our study gives an indication of how much you gain from wearing a mask,” said Dr. Henning Bundgaard, lead author of the study and a cardiologist at the University of Copenhagen. “Not a lot.”

Dr. Mette Kalager, a researcher at Telemark Hospital in Norway and the Harvard School of Public Health, was persuaded. The study showed that “although there might be a symbolic effect,” she wrote in an email, “the effect of wearing a mask does not substantially reduce risk” for wearers."

The Danish Study: Face masks showed no impact protecting wearers against COVID-19

Have you heard of the Danish Study on face masks and COVID-19? If you get your news from mainstream media,

noqreport.com

You take their word Don't wear a mask I'll go with Fauci RIP

Sounds fair.


While we're waiting to see the effect, how about you answer the question I asked you a while back......what are the symptoms of the Wuhan Red Death?

Never studied that Don't forget I'm from Brooklyn

Here.....let me help you, as one Brooklynite to another....

"The First Lady explained how she experienced “body aches, a cough and headaches, and felt extremely tired most of the time”.
Melania Trump describes coronavirus 'rollercoaster' as son Barron also tested positive



Now......what are the symptoms of the regular ol' seasonal flu?

Is that why Trump was cured so quickly ,,,he didn't have covid??

 

[PoliticalChic]

"The Danish Study: Face masks showed no impact protecting wearers against COVID-19
This is the study you won't find on many mainstream media outlets. Rare kudos to the NY Times for publishing it, albeit with plenty of "ya, buts" throughout.

About 4,860 participants completed the study. The researchers had hoped that masks would cut the infection rate by half among wearers. Instead, 42 people in the mask group, or 1.8 percent, got infected, compared with 53 in the unmasked group, or 2.1 percent. The difference was not statistically significant.


“Our study gives an indication of how much you gain from wearing a mask,” said Dr. Henning Bundgaard, lead author of the study and a cardiologist at the University of Copenhagen. “Not a lot.”

Dr. Mette Kalager, a researcher at Telemark Hospital in Norway and the Harvard School of Public Health, was persuaded. The study showed that “although there might be a symbolic effect,” she wrote in an email, “the effect of wearing a mask does not substantially reduce risk” for wearers."

The Danish Study: Face masks showed no impact protecting wearers against COVID-19

Have you heard of the Danish Study on face masks and COVID-19? If you get your news from mainstream media,

noqreport.com

You are a Trump duped idiot. Wearing a mask is not to protect the wearer. It is to protect the community to slow the spread where people are forced to intermingle close together indoors.

I never wear a mask outdoors because I never get within ten feet of anybody.

Of course you idiot - if I’m out walking the dog but never getting close or talking to others outdoors while wearing a mask it would not make a difference at all because I’m not going to get infected either way with or without a mask. Who knows how the Danes behaved last April and summer..

Let's check.



Here, the New England Journal of Medicine:



"We know that wearing a mask outside health care facilities offers little, if any, protection from infection. Public health authorities define a significant exposure to Covid-19 as face-to-face contact within 6 feet with a patient with symptomatic Covid-19 that is sustained for at least a few minutes (and some say more than 10 minutes or even 30 minutes). The chance of catching Covid-19 from a passing interaction in a public space is therefore minimal. In many cases, the desire for widespread masking is a reflexive reaction to anxiety over the pandemic. "

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp2006372

Turns out are quite a dunce, aren't you.