Learning From Hitler

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    In my mind these two articles have a single theme:

    Walter E. Williams asks:

    Interestingly, it was Adolf Hitler, not Lenin or Stalin, who clearly stated everything Hussein & Company personify. Hitler reduced everything they do to the four words in the final sentence:

    Williams identifies the worst offenders:

    I want to separate the children from the others by turning to Hitler again:

    If you doubt where American Communists were going long before Hussein came along apply Hitler’s Children to Communist control of the public education system in this country.

    Ninety-nine percent of Socialist education is formulated especially to indoctrinate young children into the joys of collectivism. Implanting the idea that there is good totalitarian government and bad totalitarian government is critical. All of the propaganda apparatus at the government’s disposal cannot bury the bad. There is too much known about totalitarian governments to hide the bad; more so since the Internet.

    Further education all the way through higher education reinforces the concept of good and bad totalitarian governments. Proof: Professor Williams’ et al., exposing totalitarianism’s innate cruelty drives Socialists to point to Communist China and say “See, communism is working. That’s good totalitarian government.”

    Obviously, the media elite, along with stalwarts of the Democrat party, totally ignore the Mao cited by Professor Williams, and the incomprehensible brutality Mao initiated against his own people in order to make communism work.

    To Socialists/Communists there is but one sin: Pointing out that totalitarian governments must kill everyone who resists no matter how slight that resistence might be, and they must kill quickly, without mercy, lest they be overthrown by revolution. In the end, every totalitarian government will always do what Hitler, and Stalin, and Mao, and Pol Pot, and Castro and others did best —— murder, torture and enslave. Regardless of the evidence some still insist that a benevolent totalitarian government is possible.

    Moving on

    I learned something from James Simpson’s piece that surprised me:


    I was surprised to learn there were Muslim Communists with so much political influence, while I understand the marriage between the two ideologies perfectly. Islam and Communism are totalitarian theocracies.

    Again, one can turn to Hitler who sanctioned marriage between totalitarians in a different context: Nazi Party recruiters had one standing order: Recruit new members from the ranks of the Communists because they always make the best Fascists. The context is different because Communists will not make the best Muslims, nor will Muslims make the best Communists.

    Identical methods of subjugation aside, Muslims are asking for the dirty end of the stick on this one. A Muslim Communist might believe that Communist ideology can be adapted to accommodate Islam, while Communists will never allow any Supreme Deity religion to survive after Socialists/Communists consolidate political power. Indeed, Muslims will be slaughtered first because Communists fear all other forms of totalitarian government. Hitler covered that one, too.


    There is no way in hell one totalitarian government will share power with another for very long. Hitler understood what had to be done; so he invaded the Soviet Union. Hitler well-knew that Stalin would have done it to Nazi Germany at the first opportunity. In fact, the very nature of totalitarian government abhors power-sharing. In that same vain it is logical to assume Mussolini’s Italy was first on Hitler’s hit list after Germany won the war.

    WWII

    I’ve always said the wrong side won WWII in Europe. Communism is still alive and well while Fascism has disappeared. There is not one openly Fascist country today although many countries are dictatorships. There are several Communist countries.

    Had Nazi Germany won WWII in Europe I doubt very much if that brand of totalitarian government would have survived after Hitler and Mussolini died. It is certain Nazism would not be a worldwide movement today as is socialism/communism. Fascists most certainly never would have infiltrated our government to the extent Communists have succeeded. In short: Hussein the Fascist would not have come as far as did Hussein the Communist.

    Finally, the single theme I referred to in the first sentence of this thread:


     
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    I've been saying this for a while now:

    "You'll always find mass graves at the end of every Progressive rainbow"

    Stalin and Mao didn't start out with mass murder, it's just a natural consequence of a Progressive government and unarmed citizenry.

    Every time

    Every single time.
     
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    FDR Called Stalin "Uncle Joe"

    Mao would have lost to Chek but for the US believing that Mao was "Democratic" and "Progressive"
     
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    To CrusaderFrank: Good responses. I would add “Who Lost China.” is an ongoing debate. After much reading over the past six decades my personal believe is that a lot of bad advice was deliberately given to FDR, Truman, military leaders, etc., by career State Department officials in order to quietly support Mao and communism. Regardless of what this informative analysis says about Who Lost China says, I think it was deliberate:

    The birth of the United Nations provided added incentive for American Communists. Younger Americans probably do not know that “Admit China” to the UN was a top priority for the American Left until President Nixon eventually gave Nationalist China’s seat in the UN, and on the Security Council, to Communist China. Nobody ever thought Nixon was soft on Communists, yet he caved in to the Left.
     
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    The very people McCarthy tried to warn us about were in fact dictating US State to support Mao.
     
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    You nailed it !
     
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    What's with all the stupid Hitler posts on this forum?

    When you start throwing Hitler around it generally doesn't mean any insight will be found.
     
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    Stalin was our ally in WW2. You must know that.
     
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    To blimpo: What’s with all of the stupid people who don’t like Hitler threads but still comment on them?

    To blimpo: You sound like I owe you insight. If you’re looking for insight get yourself reading glasses.
     
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    First Flounders, Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot and Castro are all in the same boat when it comes to evil!

    Second, you adhor Socialism, but the National SOCIALIST Worker's Prty was a socialist movement that believed STRONGLY in a LARGE CENTRAL CONTROLLING BIG-BROTHER GOVERNMENT!!! SOCIALIST TOTALITARIAN DICTATORSHIPS (which really what communist is) would have been spring up EVERYWHERE!!! A follow like you believes NAZI German victory would have been better. State your real reason! You believe the absolute falsity that (1) The Holocaust never happened and (2) Jews control everything from the world governments, banks, media and military! That is the reason you think Hitler is a swell guy.

    Third, Hitler is JUSTIFIABLY VIEWED worse, because he invaded all his neighbors and started a WORLD WAR!!! The worse destruction in WORLD HISTORY!!!

    Lastly, are you really saying, Britian and the US weren't beacons of freedom, capitalism and prosperity during in the 40s? If so your a bigger fool than I thought.
     

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