Las Vegas shooting: Reports of shooter at Mandalay Bay Casino

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That was the best bill that could pass at the time and it did help. It tried to address fire rate. The NRA used loopholes to continue the ever increasing fire rate.

That was the best bill that could pass at the time and it did help.

how did it help?
Koper concluded by saying that “a new ban on large capacity magazines and assault weapons would certainly not be a panacea for gun crime, but it may help to prevent further spread of particularly dangerous weaponry and eventually bring small reductions in some of the most serious and costly gun crimes.”

That kind of guarded language may not make for great sound bites for either side in the gun debate, but it more accurately reflects Koper’s findings and conclusion.

— Robert Farley

Did the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban Work? - FactCheck.org
the effect of the 'assault weapon ban' was minimal, because 'assault weapons' were rarely used in crimes, even murders.
You have offered nothing to the discussion, just poking at our posts.

What is your solution?

_______________ no limit to fire rate?

No fully automatic

_______________ no limit to arsenal size
No limit but they should be registered.

_______________ no limit to magazine/drum size?
Yes limits

______________ yes machine guns should be legal?
No

______________ the more guns the better
If you want...but they should be registered
I'll put you down as not crazy
 
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how did it help?
Koper concluded by saying that “a new ban on large capacity magazines and assault weapons would certainly not be a panacea for gun crime, but it may help to prevent further spread of particularly dangerous weaponry and eventually bring small reductions in some of the most serious and costly gun crimes.”

That kind of guarded language may not make for great sound bites for either side in the gun debate, but it more accurately reflects Koper’s findings and conclusion.

— Robert Farley

Did the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban Work? - FactCheck.org
the effect of the 'assault weapon ban' was minimal, because 'assault weapons' were rarely used in crimes, even murders.
You have offered nothing to the discussion, just poking at our posts.

What is your solution?

_______________ no limit to fire rate?

No fully automatic

_______________ no limit to arsenal size
No limit but they should be registered.

_______________ no limit to magazine/drum size?
Yes limits

______________ yes machine guns should be legal?
No

______________ the more guns the better
If you want...but they should be registered
I'll put you down as not crazy
amusing

Dr Quackenbush diagnoses poster as not crazy

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And? That means what exactly?
The gun shops say that he was a fine man when they sold weapons to him

They said the same about me last time I bought a firearm.

Does that mean I'm going to turn into a mass murderer?

That is yet to be determined. They're all good guys with a gun until they arent.


agreed.

how do we separate the bad ones, and not abuse the good ones?

Firstly, you need to get off this "abuse" mentality. Are you really that upset if mods like bump stock and high cap mags go away?

Secondly, gun owners are going to have to be part of the solution. The status quo is untenable. At some point the safety of your fellow citizens has to be more important than your toys.


I own several myself. All normal stuff. Nothing exotic. I just like to shoot. I have never cared for the nutty lifestyle people build around guns. For a lot of people its gone well beyond a simple hobby and morphed into a whole nutty philosophy that is almost a religion.

Okay, what do you own? And answer within 2 minutes or you're Googling.
 
Paddock made exactly the same claim

And? That means what exactly?
The gun shops say that he was a fine man when they sold weapons to him

They said the same about me last time I bought a firearm.

Does that mean I'm going to turn into a mass murderer?

That is yet to be determined. They're all good guys with a gun until they arent.
I have seen more than my share of gunnuts and how they change. It starts with the Rambo mentality. then the cute phrases during "discussions" especially at parties. "You do remember I am a gun owner, right?"


Most of my peers are gun owners, as am I, and I have never heard anyone say anything like that at a party, or in a discussion.

Either your friends are assholes, (and I'm not saying they aren't) or you are lying.
 
That was the best bill that could pass at the time and it did help. It tried to address fire rate. The NRA used loopholes to continue the ever increasing fire rate.

That was the best bill that could pass at the time and it did help.

how did it help?
Koper concluded by saying that “a new ban on large capacity magazines and assault weapons would certainly not be a panacea for gun crime, but it may help to prevent further spread of particularly dangerous weaponry and eventually bring small reductions in some of the most serious and costly gun crimes.”

That kind of guarded language may not make for great sound bites for either side in the gun debate, but it more accurately reflects Koper’s findings and conclusion.

— Robert Farley

Did the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban Work? - FactCheck.org
the effect of the 'assault weapon ban' was minimal, because 'assault weapons' were rarely used in crimes, even murders.
You have offered nothing to the discussion, just poking at our posts.

What is your solution?

_______________ no limit to fire rate?

No fully automatic

_______________ no limit to arsenal size
No limit but they should be registered.

_______________ no limit to magazine/drum size?
Yes limits

______________ yes machine guns should be legal?
No

______________ the more guns the better
If you want...but they should be registered
Here in France we can not carry weapons with us.
Attention it is a double-sense carrying weapon too. at a French channel after the Vegas massacre we have a journalist on the chain who made me jump out of my chair Why?
For she said: that Trump had said after the attacks of Bataclan that the people if they would have been armed they could have defended themselves. she said it shocked people in France that Trump had dared to say that.
What's stupid bitch, Trump is right she says that it as if it does not matter that people were massacred without being able to defend themselves.
 
Koper concluded by saying that “a new ban on large capacity magazines and assault weapons would certainly not be a panacea for gun crime, but it may help to prevent further spread of particularly dangerous weaponry and eventually bring small reductions in some of the most serious and costly gun crimes.”

That kind of guarded language may not make for great sound bites for either side in the gun debate, but it more accurately reflects Koper’s findings and conclusion.

— Robert Farley

Did the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban Work? - FactCheck.org
the effect of the 'assault weapon ban' was minimal, because 'assault weapons' were rarely used in crimes, even murders.
You have offered nothing to the discussion, just poking at our posts.

What is your solution?

_______________ no limit to fire rate?

No fully automatic

_______________ no limit to arsenal size
No limit but they should be registered.

_______________ no limit to magazine/drum size?
Yes limits

______________ yes machine guns should be legal?
No

______________ the more guns the better
If you want...but they should be registered
I'll put you down as not crazy
amusing

Dr Quackenbush diagnoses poster as not crazy

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Guess what I diagnose you as?

Hint ~ I'm an evolutionary biologist, so guess which phylum?
 
the effect of the 'assault weapon ban' was minimal, because 'assault weapons' were rarely used in crimes, even murders.
You have offered nothing to the discussion, just poking at our posts.

What is your solution?

_______________ no limit to fire rate?

No fully automatic

_______________ no limit to arsenal size
No limit but they should be registered.

_______________ no limit to magazine/drum size?
Yes limits

______________ yes machine guns should be legal?
No

______________ the more guns the better
If you want...but they should be registered
I'll put you down as not crazy
amusing

Dr Quackenbush diagnoses poster as not crazy

200.gif
Guess what I diagnose you as?

Hint ~ I'm an evolutionary biologist, so guess which phylum?

if you had graduated, you would have diagnosed me as sane
 
And? That means what exactly?
The gun shops say that he was a fine man when they sold weapons to him

They said the same about me last time I bought a firearm.

Does that mean I'm going to turn into a mass murderer?

That is yet to be determined. They're all good guys with a gun until they arent.
I have seen more than my share of gunnuts and how they change. It starts with the Rambo mentality. then the cute phrases during "discussions" especially at parties. "You do remember I am a gun owner, right?"


Most of my peers are gun owners, as am I, and I have never heard anyone say anything like that at a party, or in a discussion.

Either your friends are assholes, (and I'm not saying they aren't) or you are lying.
Oh I didn't say friends, but I have a few stories of friends too.

Yes, the infamous "your friends" always perfect model citizens.

uh huh
 
You have offered nothing to the discussion, just poking at our posts.

What is your solution?

_______________ no limit to fire rate?

No fully automatic

_______________ no limit to arsenal size
No limit but they should be registered.

_______________ no limit to magazine/drum size?
Yes limits

______________ yes machine guns should be legal?
No

______________ the more guns the better
If you want...but they should be registered
I'll put you down as not crazy
amusing

Dr Quackenbush diagnoses poster as not crazy

200.gif
Guess what I diagnose you as?

Hint ~ I'm an evolutionary biologist, so guess which phylum?

if you had graduated, you would have diagnosed me as sane
If you had graduated, you would get the insult
 
_______________ no limit to fire rate?

No fully automatic

_______________ no limit to arsenal size
No limit but they should be registered.

_______________ no limit to magazine/drum size?
Yes limits

______________ yes machine guns should be legal?
No

______________ the more guns the better
If you want...but they should be registered
I'll put you down as not crazy
amusing

Dr Quackenbush diagnoses poster as not crazy

200.gif
Guess what I diagnose you as?

Hint ~ I'm an evolutionary biologist, so guess which phylum?

if you had graduated, you would have diagnosed me as sane
If you had graduated, you would get the insult



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_______________ no limit to fire rate?

No fully automatic

_______________ no limit to arsenal size
No limit but they should be registered.

_______________ no limit to magazine/drum size?
Yes limits

______________ yes machine guns should be legal?
No

______________ the more guns the better
If you want...but they should be registered
I'll put you down as not crazy
amusing

Dr Quackenbush diagnoses poster as not crazy

200.gif
Guess what I diagnose you as?

Hint ~ I'm an evolutionary biologist, so guess which phylum?

if you had graduated, you would have diagnosed me as sane
If you had graduated, you would get the insult

Were it not for my health, and the distance involved, I'd have attended my 50th Reunion a month ago.
 
Holy crap, I don't know if this has already been posted, but this video was shot by a cab driver who slowly comes to the realization that something has gone wrong.

At about 9:00, concert-goers start running to the cab, jump in, and tell her what's happening:


The witnesses, the wounded will be marked forever by the noise also of the bullets at the bataclan they shoot without stopping on the people at close range and the BRI ( police) came after 26 minutes.

 
The gun shops say that he was a fine man when they sold weapons to him

They said the same about me last time I bought a firearm.

Does that mean I'm going to turn into a mass murderer?

That is yet to be determined. They're all good guys with a gun until they arent.
I have seen more than my share of gunnuts and how they change. It starts with the Rambo mentality. then the cute phrases during "discussions" especially at parties. "You do remember I am a gun owner, right?"


Most of my peers are gun owners, as am I, and I have never heard anyone say anything like that at a party, or in a discussion.

Either your friends are assholes, (and I'm not saying they aren't) or you are lying.
Oh I didn't say friends, but I have a few stories of friends too.

Yes, the infamous "your friends" always perfect model citizens.

uh huh


NOT snidely threatening people with guns at parties is hardly "model citizens".

That's the only claim I made for them.


And it stands. If you run into that at parties, you need to hang out with a better class of people.


Hint: Avoid gang parties or Klan rallies.
 
WAS STEPHEN PADDOCK NORMAL? MANY GUN OWNERS KEEP 17 FIREARMS ON AVERAGE

Stephen Paddock was, indeed, a gun nut.

As the owner of 42 firearms, the Las Vegas madman was at the very far fringe of even the fringe of gun ownership in the country.

Most gun owners possess an average of three firearms, according to a comprehensive national survey co-led by Northeastern University and Harvard and released in September 2016. Meanwhile, 130 million guns—half the country's firearms—are owned by just 3 percent of Americans, or 7.7 million people. These "super-owners" own 17 guns, on average.

Was Stephen Paddock normal? Many gun owners keep 17 firearms on average
 
WAS STEPHEN PADDOCK NORMAL? MANY GUN OWNERS KEEP 17 FIREARMS ON AVERAGE

Stephen Paddock was, indeed, a gun nut.

As the owner of 42 firearms, the Las Vegas madman was at the very far fringe of even the fringe of gun ownership in the country.

Most gun owners possess an average of three firearms, according to a comprehensive national survey co-led by Northeastern University and Harvard and released in September 2016. Meanwhile, 130 million guns—half the country's firearms—are owned by just 3 percent of Americans, or 7.7 million people. These "super-owners" own 17 guns, on average.

Was Stephen Paddock normal? Many gun owners keep 17 firearms on average


Probably had something to do with having more money than that vast majority of even serious collectors.


If I had millions of dollars I would have more guns.


ANd more houses.


And more, really of all material goods.
 
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