LandNeal, Come Out to Play

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    I posted the following in a thread I had to close. I still would like the questions answered, and a determination to who and what you are as opposed to who and what you claim to be:

    "You are, IMO, expressing two different philosophies here. Let's narrow this down a mite and see where it goes.

    You say you are a Nazi. Why? I haven't seen you express any Nazi views. Only seperatist ones. The Nazi's were NOT peaceful seperatists. They were seperators by extermination. The Nazi's also believed in a superior race of people as a ruling class.

    So you call yourself a Nazi; yet, claim to hate no one, claim you believe in equality of races, and that all people should be proud of their respective races.

    Please reconcile the preceeding paragraph with the one preceeding it.

    Seems to me there's a bunch of hypocrites in this crowd who have no problem with Black Pride, Brown Pride, Jewish Pride, Gay Pride, etc. Anything but white or Christian pride. If they can be proud of their respective races/lifestyles, then there certainly is no logical reason to villify whites who are proud of theirs and call them racists.

    Technically however, every single group that espouses pride in their race is racist, by definition. It's rather obvious to some, including me, how unequally the label is used.

    Oh, and to whoever said they are a member of the "human race" .... bullshit. Homo sapiens are a species, not a race.

    So, why is it you think races should be seperated? If everyone is equal, as you state, and you hate no one, why is it that you wish to seperate based on skin color?"


    Now, I am attempting to discuss an issue. Any of you mindless bots that just want to call names and attack, find your own playground. THIS one is mine.
     
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    There is nothing wrong with having pride in your ethnicity. The Columbus Day Parade is basically a parade for the Italian ethnicity. There is no such thing as a "white" ethnicity, though. There is no such thing as standing up for the rights of European Americans, as Russians and Australians are both "white." The Easter Parade is a celebration of Christianity. The Israeli Parade is a celebration of Israel and Judaism. There is nothing wrong with being proud of your culture and being competitive about your culture especially in sports - that's what the olympics are for! But you cross the line when you kill people because you feel their race is inferior.
     
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    It isn't as strong as other groups or sub-groups, true... but it's BIOLOGICALLY real, and I can tell you this much:

    Affirmative action doesn't keep out "Irish" or "Italian". It keeps out WHITES.

    So it's fair to fight as you are attacked.

    White identity needs to be cultured and encouraged. Whites won't survive otherwise.
     
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    Jews believe the exact same thing, and act on it with full force in Israel, where they exterminate Palestinians. There is no group that can really claim it's never tried to defend itself or pursue its group interests, even through the use of violence. Evolutionarily, no group like that could even exist today.
     
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    For the life of me, William, I cannot understand why any White Nationalist is foolish enough to describe himself as a NAZI or to in any way lionize Hitler or German National Socialism.

    Do they not realize how many White people Hitler also killed or was planning on killing the moment he thought he could afford to do so?

    Or when they say "White" are they parcing that group out to mean only WASPS or maybe the people they misidentify as Arryans?

    Seems to me that you White Nationalists are in many ways your own worst enemies.
     
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    A lot of WN's would agree!

    I don't enounter any SERIOUS white advocates who call themselves a "Nazi"... and even STORMFRONT has banned swastika avatars. The whole Nazi-Hitler-etc. connection is just totally counterproductive...

    It's harder to imagine a steeper hill to climb than white advocacy: one the one side, you've got a whole raft of enemies, most of 'decent' society, from white liberals to neocons to even white 'conservatives' like Sean Hannity whose first words are always, "but I'm not a racist"! Then on the other you've got morons who dress up in Nazi costumes and parade in the street.

    Meanwhile, though, the issues facing whites are very real. We are becoming minorities. There is demonization of us in the media. Affirmative action does hurt us. Someone needs to be addressing that stuff.
     
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    I disagree. There is as much a thing as a white ethnicity as any other ethnicity. Your analysis confused ethnicity with nationality. If one's ethnicity was based on nationality, there would be no whites, blacks, yellows, et al. It would all be decided based on geographical point of origin.

    I have not seen LandNeal yet promote genocide. That is the purpose of this thread. To find out if the ideals he is stating go with the label he has placed upon himself. So far, I don't see it.

    Then we need to take the label itself. A Nazi as defined by current society is synonymous with Hitler and the Third Reich. By strict definition it is a politcal party that predates Hitler and the Third Reich. Hitler merely used it as a catalyst and front in his grab for power.

    While I am unapologetic in regard to my ethnicity, I really don't see that it is any reason for "pride." I take pride in being who and what I am. Ethnicity may be a part of THAT, but it is not the defining factor.
     
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    As I said, he is confusing nationality with ethnicity. Caucasoid is in fact a race. The ethnicities within that race are, as David says, quite diverse, but it is STILL our ethnicity. That diversity and a strong sense of national identity are the reasons for the lack of a strong subculture.

    Unlike you, I don't see that it really matters. I don't care much what someone's skin color is. Only how stupid they are and what possible ways they are going to try and fuck me over.
     
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    GMAB dude. You know full well I don't buy off on that "Israeli's exterminating Palestinians" garbage. "Palestinians" are Arabs claiming the state within Transjordan their ancestors were from as an ethnicity. Fatah's original leader, that grandaddy of modern day terrorism and Nobel Peace Prize winning Yassir Arafat was an Egyptian.

    Behind EVERY group pursuing exclusionary self-interest you will find a lie.
     
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    IMO, it depends, but was I doing so, I would make sure that my ideals were based on National Socialism and NOT what Hitler turned that party and the word "Nazi" into. However, if LandNeal does so, I will expect a full dissertation on National Socialist ideology and how it differs from Hitler and Third Reich.

    As the label has been come to be known today, I'm with you ... I would NEVER define myself as a Nazi. "Jarhead" will suffice.:lol:
     

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