somebody in another thread said that in Mexico when anybody raises the issue of forming a labor union he gets killed. if we had that here GM and Chrysler would be putting Toyota and Honda out of business right now. labor unions are nothing more than PRICE FIXING on the labor side of the equation. we have lawsuits when prices for flash memory or LCD panels are fixed. fixing prices for labor is NO BETTER. If you sit in an Audi and then sit in a Cadillac you will think the cars were made on different planets. How is this possible ? Are Americans that much dumber than Germans ? not really. Is Cadillac that much cheaper than Audi ? not really. ITS THE UNIONS STUPID. i know editec will say we should not have allowed Germans to import their cars here ... well we already tried this trick back in USSR and i remember pushing cars up the hill very well. i also remember how well this strategy worked in the long run. labor unions must DIE if American industry is to live.