Keep Nazi analogies out of gun debate, says who? JEWS

What I don't get is you why you guys keep trying to defend yourselves on that platform. If you took a poll, you'd get a 95% disapproval rate (at minimum). I no longer need to continue fighting you on this issue, you defeat yourselves when you defend it.

I am opposed to gun control. But I am also oppoosed to idiots who make "Because Hitler" arguments. They are seriously undermining the pro-gun movement with stupid shit like that.

That's a Glenn Beck level of dumb.

It is my understanding that the 2nd amendment is a right that is limited to law abiding citizens. If you are a felon, murderer, wife beater or have a history of mental illness that right is not afforded to you. Yet the poster you are arguing with (The2ndAmendment) is against background checks, which means that he would allow felons, murderers, wife beaters and the mentally ill to own a firearm. Where do people like that cross the line of themselves no longer being law abiding?
 
Are you reading averse, or can't parrots read?

There is NO WAY Jews in Germany could have fought off the Nazis with personal firearms. Just like every whacko who takes on the police, they all end up the same way...dead.

You folks are so stupid, I am amazed you survive crossing the street.



I think the whole take-away (when it comes to Hitler and the gun control debate) is that governments can and DO turn pretty shitty in a heartbeat, and it's not completely whacky or looney to think that one day you may be defending yourself and your family from a gov't that was once sworn to protect you. I'm not saying it's going to happen tomorrow, I'm just saying it's possible.

Q: Why do you need an AR-15?

A: Because there's been literally thousands of examples in history - long ago and VERY recent - of (1) gov'ts spiraling out of control with power, and/or (2) temporary or long term economic collapses, and if either of those happen I want to have the most effective means of defending myself.



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The answer to the questions, "Why do you need an AR-15?" is this: I do not have to justify my exercising of a right. Why do you NEED porn?

That's fine too.

I was just explaining why the right is still relevant, despite what some politicians and media figures like to make us think.
 
Are you reading averse, or can't parrots read?

There is NO WAY Jews in Germany could have fought off the Nazis with personal firearms. Just like every whacko who takes on the police, they all end up the same way...dead.

You folks are so stupid, I am amazed you survive crossing the street.

Bfgrn:

At 5:55 in this video, you will learn that just a few hundred armed Jews kept the Nazis out of their neighborhood for over a month. There are many of documented instances of this occurring.

Can you imagine perhaps how much more effective it would have been if more than 95% of the Jews hadn't surrendered their arms before that? Maybe it could have at least given the remaining Jews time to leave Germany (for those who didn't' already leave).

The Germans would not have heavily invested into slaughtering tens of thousands Jews who were retreating out of the country/region into Allied Territory.

Here's one thing for sure though, even if we can't tell what would have happened, this video shows they all would have had a much better CHANCE. At the very least, they could die with dignity.

Also, I suggest you watch all five videos.

No Guns for Jews, Part One - YouTube

The Jews would have stood the best chance of survival by focusing their energy on an escape. But as is human nature, many either didn't believe the danger was as dire as it was or that sensible people would intervene.

The 1943 Warsaw ghetto uprising by about 700 armed Jews who were able to fend off a much larger force of German troops for days until retreating to tunnels or fleeing. The Nazis won out by systematically burning the ghetto to the ground, house by house.

"Once the Germans began adopting that strategy there really wasn't very much that people armed with pistols, or even rifles and machine guns, could do," said Paulsson, the historian and author of "Secret City: The Hidden Jews of Warsaw."

Paulsson said it is possible that if Polish Jews had limited their resistance, Nazi troops might not have destroyed the ghetto, allowing more to survive in hiding or escape. When armed Jews shot at mobs or troops at other times in 1930s and 1940s Poland, it incited more vicious counter-attacks, he said. ref.

Sure. They should not have fought back like real men. They should have lain down like cowardly ,pitiful wretches that deserve to be brutally murdered and have their families brutally murdered. Your Paulsson was a fool that should have been slapped every day of the week IMHO. Is the idiot even still alive??
 
Are you reading averse, or can't parrots read?

There is NO WAY Jews in Germany could have fought off the Nazis with personal firearms. Just like every whacko who takes on the police, they all end up the same way...dead.

You folks are so stupid, I am amazed you survive crossing the street.

Bfgrn:

At 5:55 in this video, you will learn that just a few hundred armed Jews kept the Nazis out of their neighborhood for over a month. There are many of documented instances of this occurring.

Can you imagine perhaps how much more effective it would have been if more than 95% of the Jews hadn't surrendered their arms before that? Maybe it could have at least given the remaining Jews time to leave Germany (for those who didn't' already leave).

The Germans would not have heavily invested into slaughtering tens of thousands Jews who were retreating out of the country/region into Allied Territory.

Here's one thing for sure though, even if we can't tell what would have happened, this video shows they all would have had a much better CHANCE. At the very least, they could die with dignity.

Also, I suggest you watch all five videos.

No Guns for Jews, Part One - YouTube

The Jews would have stood the best chance of survival by focusing their energy on an escape. But as is human nature, many either didn't believe the danger was as dire as it was or that sensible people would intervene.

The 1943 Warsaw ghetto uprising by about 700 armed Jews who were able to fend off a much larger force of German troops for days until retreating to tunnels or fleeing. The Nazis won out by systematically burning the ghetto to the ground, house by house.

"Once the Germans began adopting that strategy there really wasn't very much that people armed with pistols, or even rifles and machine guns, could do," said Paulsson, the historian and author of "Secret City: The Hidden Jews of Warsaw."

Paulsson said it is possible that if Polish Jews had limited their resistance, Nazi troops might not have destroyed the ghetto, allowing more to survive in hiding or escape. When armed Jews shot at mobs or troops at other times in 1930s and 1940s Poland, it incited more vicious counter-attacks, he said. ref.

they really had no where to go

there was no legal right to asylum at the time

besides that they would need jobs

which had been hard to find elsewhere in europe

plus other reasons
 
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ADL calls on conservatives to keep Nazi analogies out of gun debate

WASHINGTON (JTA) -- The Anti-Defamation League called on conservatives to keep Nazi analogies out of the gun control debate.

"The idea that supporters of gun control are doing something akin to what Hitler’s Germany did to strip citizens of guns in the run-up to the Second World War is historically inaccurate and offensive, especially to Holocaust survivors and their families," Abraham Foxman, ADL's national director, said Thursday in a statement.

The statement cited the proliferation of such arguments among gun control opponents in the wake of calls for greater gun controls after last month's massacre of first graders in Connecticut by a lone gunman.

The Drudge Report headlined the White House's announcement of such proposals with mug shots of Adolf Hitler and Josef Stalin and an array of conservative pundits have claimed that the Holocaust would not have been inevitable had Jews been able to bear arms.

The instances in which Jews managed to obtain arms, as they did in the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising of 1943, were symbolically important but would not have headed off the Nazi machine, the ADL said.

"Gun control did not cause the Holocaust," it said. "Nazism and anti-Semitism did."

The Anti-Defamation League was founded in 1913 "to stop the defamation of the Jewish people and to secure justice and fair treatment to all." Now the nation's premier civil rights/human relations agency, ADL fights anti-Semitism and all forms of bigotry, defends democratic ideals and protects civil rights for all.

ADL Press Release

As a Jew I can tell the Democratic in the baggers ADL to go fuck themselves! Nazi and leftist dictator gun control stance SHOULD be brought into the gun control argument. What was one of the first moves vicious dictators that murdered millions of people, speciically Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao, Castro? Enact complete gun control!
 

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