Kavanaugh/Ford Wednesday Sept 26th 2018 Merge Thread.

[DrLove]

Avenatti responded to Trump's comments on Twitter minutes later.

" 'False accusations?' Like those crimes your fixer Cohen pled to?" the lawyer wrote, referring to Trump's former personal attorney Michael Cohen.

"You are an habitual liar and complete narcissist who also is a disgrace as a president and an embarrassment to our nation. You are so inept that your 'best and brightest' are Cohen and [Rudy] Giuliani. Let’s go."

Ironic. A narcissist calling someone else a narcissist.

There are degrees of narcissism. If Avenatti is a 5 that makes Trump an ELEVEN

 

[DrLove]

Avenatti just another hack liberal desperate for attention.

yeah with a great rep ,,,you repub lovers try to mock ,bash and lie about all who disagree with you

I want a cage match between Avenatti and Giuliani. That would be good.

I think that is a BRILLIANT idea .. Call Vince McMahon

 

[DrLove]

Nothing like you having a polygraph test by someone YOU hired to give you the test.....Only ABNORMAL socialist/DemonRATS were born in the dark!

Lawyers for Christine Blasey Ford, the woman who has accused Brett Kavanaugh of attempting to sexually assault her when they were both in high school, released the results of a polygraph test she passed in August on Wednesday, one day before she is scheduled to publicly testify before the Senate Judiciary Committee alongside Kavanaugh.

Almost immediately after the results’ release, inconsistencies in Ford’s testimony were pointed out. The written statement used as the basis for the polygraph test said there were “four people” present at the party where the alleged assault occurred but, at some point, “four people” was crossed out and replaced with “four boys and a couple of girls.”

Both of these versions of events are inconsistent with the letter Ford sent in July to Senator Dianne Feinstein, the ranking Democrat on the Judiciary Committee, in which she described the party attendees as consisting of “me and four others.” They also clashed with what Ford’s statement to the Washington Post that there were “four boys” present at the party, a claim she has since retracted, saying instead that her friend Leland Keyser also attended the party but did not know of the assault.

So MUCH MORE Christine Blasey Ford Polygraph Results Reveal Inconsistencies in Testimony | National Review

How ironic that they send out a polygraph result claiming she’s telling the truth, and her statement is different than what sh told her therapist and Feinstein!

Sez National Review?

Here's the polygraph test Christine Blasey Ford took on her allegations against Kavanaugh

 

[edward37]

WASHINGTON — Judge Brett M. Kavanaugh faced a whirlwind of new accusations on Wednesday that threatened to derail his nomination to the Supreme Court as key Republican senators wavered in their support and President Trump, in a rambling and combative news conference, acknowledged that he might be persuaded by the testimony of one of the judge’s female accusers.

On the eve of an extraordinary hearing of the Senate Judiciary Committee at which both Judge Kavanaugh and Christine Blasey Ford, a California professor who has accused him of assaulting her when they were both teenagers, will testify, Mr. Trump said that “some very evil” Democrats had plotted to destroy Judge Kavanaugh’s reputation. And he lamented what he called “a very dangerous period in our country” in which men are presumed guilty.

But even as he described the charges against Judge Kavanaugh as “false accusations,” Mr. Trump seemed, for the first time, to acknowledge the mounting challenges facing his nominee. Asked why he repeatedly sides with men over their female accusers, the president said hearing stories from Dr. Blasey might change his mind.

“I’m going to see what happens tomorrow,” Mr. Trump said during an hourlong news conference in New York, where he was attending the United Nations General Assembly. “I’m going to be watching, you know, believe it or not. It’s possible they will be convincing.”

 

[The Purge]

Ford’s Lawyers Just Released Her Polygraph Report. The Internet Has Questions.
WesternJournal.com ^ | 9-26-2018 | Chris Agee

Lawyers representing a woman accusing Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh of decades-old sexual assault have released a polygraph report conducted as part of an effort to establish the credibility of her claim.

"On August 7, 2018, Christine Blasey reported to the Hilton Hotel, 1739 West Nursery Road, Linthicum Heights, MD 21090, for the purpose of undergoing a polygraph examination," the report explained. "The examination was to address whether Blasey was physically assaulted by Brett Kavanaugh while attending a small party in Montgomery County, MD."

The accusations have stalled the nomination of President Donald Trump's second Supreme Court nominee, who had been slated to replace retiring Justice Anthony Kennedy.

Details included in the polygraph report, which was made public the day before scheduled Senate testimony by both Kavanaugh and Ford, have led to some criticism among supporters of the nominee.

A common concern is the dearth of "relevant questions" the interviewer asked Ford while monitoring the polygraph results.

According to the report, there were only two such questions and both related directly to her statement on the alleged assault.

The interviewer asked Ford whether "any part" of her statement was false or whether she made up any detail included in her initial report.

She answered "no" to both questions.

According to the report, the results of her polygraph test were then analyzed using three different methods, each of which determined a statistically insignificant probability of deception.

Numerous critics argued that the questions posed to Ford were insufficient to form a convincing report.

"There are literally only two questions asking if she made things up," tweeted CRTV congressional correspondent Nate Madden.

"This is even bad by the unreliable hokum standards of polygraph tests."


The questions consisted of: Is any part of your written statement false? No.
Did you make any of it up? No.

Even for an inadmissible quack witch doctor snake oil unscientific polygraph report, this is bad. Yashar Ali on Twitter

-- Patrick Nonwhite (@NonWhiteHat) September 26, 2018




Wow...
Not only was the only question just about the written statement, not any specifics, but th statement has multiple edits and contradictions. She started w 4 people (matching letter to Feinstein), then adjusted to 4 boys (matching account to WaPo) and a couple of girls (?). Yashar Ali on Twitter

-- (((AG))) (@AG_Conservative) September 26, 2018

Others, including National Review editor Charles W. Cooke, found inconsistencies in Ford's story.

"Dr. Ford's polygraph letter contradicts letter she sent to (Sen. Dianne) Feinstein," Cooke wrote. "Polygraph letter says "4 boys and a couple of girls" were at party. Letter to Feinstein says "me and four others." No way to reconcile the two--irrespective of whether she's counting herself in polygraph letter."

Feinstein letter, July 30: "Kavanaugh physically pushed me into a bedroom"

Polygraph statement, August 7: "I was pushed b̶y̶ ̶t̶w̶o̶ ̶p̶e̶r̶s̶o̶n̶s̶ into a bedroom"

-- Phil Kerpen (@kerpen) September 26, 2018

Ford is set to appear on Capitol Hill on Thursday to answer questions related to her allegations.

Democrats on the Senate judiciary committee will question the witnesses directly while Republicans have tasked a prosecutor with asking the questions.

Grassley confirmed Tuesday in a statement that he has hired Rachel Mitchell, a career prosecutor with decades of experience prosecuting sex crimes, to question the witnesses.

 

[Polishprince]

WASHINGTON — Judge Brett M. Kavanaugh faced a whirlwind of new accusations on Wednesday that threatened to derail his nomination to the Supreme Court as key Republican senators wavered in their support and President Trump, in a rambling and combative news conference, acknowledged that he might be persuaded by the testimony of one of the judge’s female accusers.

On the eve of an extraordinary hearing of the Senate Judiciary Committee at which both Judge Kavanaugh and Christine Blasey Ford, a California professor who has accused him of assaulting her when they were both teenagers, will testify, Mr. Trump said that “some very evil” Democrats had plotted to destroy Judge Kavanaugh’s reputation. And he lamented what he called “a very dangerous period in our country” in which men are presumed guilty.

But even as he described the charges against Judge Kavanaugh as “false accusations,” Mr. Trump seemed, for the first time, to acknowledge the mounting challenges facing his nominee. Asked why he repeatedly sides with men over their female accusers, the president said hearing stories from Dr. Blasey might change his mind.

“I’m going to see what happens tomorrow,” Mr. Trump said during an hourlong news conference in New York, where he was attending the United Nations General Assembly. “I’m going to be watching, you know, believe it or not. It’s possible they will be convincing.”

Georgetown Prep is one of America's premiere high school, no one will confuse it with Upper South Bumphuck Area High or Bleeding Heart of Jesus High on the other side of the tracks.

The parents and students are among the nation's and the world's most elite. How were the alumni ever able to keep their weekly Rape Train Parties a secret for so long?

 

[Crepitus]

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Boy, did they get money from all the rapists and sexual assaulters in Hollywood, for decades!

They gave plenty to republicans as well.

 

[Crepitus]

You aren't disproving it.

The lack of evidence proves it

You are refusing to let the evidence be heard.

NO SOUP FOR YOU!!!

Wrong

Everyone wants to see the evidence.

Accusations are not evidence

Then let's investigate. By refusing to you are refusing to see the evidence.

I'm not wrong.

Never am.

You are wrong.

There is no evidence

Ok, you are obviously to blinded by the tRumpian propaganda to have this conversation with.

Have a nice day.

 

[Soupnazi630]

The lack of evidence proves it

You are refusing to let the evidence be heard.

NO SOUP FOR YOU!!!

Wrong

Everyone wants to see the evidence.

Accusations are not evidence

Then let's investigate. By refusing to you are refusing to see the evidence.

I'm not wrong.

Never am.

You are wrong.

There is no evidence

Ok, you are obviously to blinded by the tRumpian propaganda to have this conversation with.

Have a nice day.

Which means smarter and wiser than you.

You too

 

[Crepitus]

You are refusing to let the evidence be heard.

NO SOUP FOR YOU!!!

Wrong

Everyone wants to see the evidence.

Accusations are not evidence

Then let's investigate. By refusing to you are refusing to see the evidence.

I'm not wrong.

Never am.

You are wrong.

There is no evidence

Ok, you are obviously to blinded by the tRumpian propaganda to have this conversation with.

Have a nice day.

Which means smarter and wiser than you.

You too

Lmao

 

[Pop23]

Why is this accuser not already in custody awaiting trial?

As an adult, she’s admitted to witnessing, at a minimum, 10 rapes of a minor. In that State, rape has no statute of limitation. She states she knew about the rapes, did nothing to stop them and never reported them.

Her confession has consequences and needs to be dealt with severely.

More than 10 young girls, each a daughter or sister, had their lives ruined because of her failure to act.

There is a special place in hell for her.

 

[jc456]

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Well they can say Biden refused to bring in the other 6 WOMEN ready to talk about THOMAS. After all if Biden did it 33 years ago, who says we have to learn a GD thing. Of course Biden remarked many times over the years it was one of his biggest regrets.

Grassley's committee missed ALL THE APPOINTMENTS set up I assume by her lawyer!!

Judiciary Committee refuses to meet with second Kavanaugh accuser: report

DOMINIQUE JACKSON
25 SEP 2018 AT 19:00 ET

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Deborah Ramirez is the second woman to accuse Supreme Court nominee Brett Kanguh of sexual assault.

Despite coming forward and breaking her silence, the Senate Judiciary Committee has ignored her request to a hearing.

Ramirez attorney, John Clune, wrote in a thread on Twitter that, “Ms. Ramirez is ready to swear to the FBI under penalty of perjury. Why won’t the Senate Judiciary Committee welcome that?”

John Clune@CluneEsq

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and they have refused to meet all scheduled appointments. We have officially requested an FBI investigation and our client remains adamant that is the appropriate venue for her to discuss her trauma. 3/4

John Clune@CluneEsq


Ms. Ramirez is ready to swear to the FBI under penalty of perjury. Why won’t the Senate Judiciary Committee welcome that? 4/4



He claimed that the Senate Judiciary Committee “refused to meet all scheduled appointments.” Clune said that he will be on CNN’s Anderson Cooper to talk more about his case.

John Clune@CluneEsq

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John Clune@CluneEsq

I’m looking forward to speaking to Anderson Cooper tonight on @ac360 to discuss Deborah Ramirez’s claim. We have been working hard to cooperate with the Senate Judiciary Committee, but at this point have to point out some hard truths. 1/4

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Deborah Ramirez only came forward after being contacted by Ronan Farrow and carefully working through her memories only to ensure her accuracy. We reached out to the Senate Judiciary Committee to schedule a call to discuss how best to bring them that information 2/4


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and they have refused to meet all scheduled appointments. We have officially requested an FBI investigation and our client remains adamant that is the appropriate venue for her to discuss her trauma. 3/4



https://www.rawstory.com/2018/09/jud...ccuser-report/

ahhhhhhhhh shows precedence. can't go against precedent. not at all. vote today!!!!

 

[FA_Q2]

Wrong

You are refusing to let the evidence be heard.

NO SOUP FOR YOU!!!

Wrong

Everyone wants to see the evidence.

Accusations are not evidence

If they want evidence, why won't the committee meet with the accuser?

Because they don't really want evidence.

Democrats are to busy to be concerned with investigating for facts like the Republicans are... Demorats are to busy making up lies and shredding the presumption of innocent until proven guilty to be worried about facts... like the old sale witch trials...

Investigation is needed.

Investigate what?

There is noting to go to the next step with - no one corroborating the stories and no actual leads to follow.

If you don't think that anyone is digging here you are ignoring reality. I guarantee anyone even remotely associated with Kavanaugh has been questioned over and over again in the media's search to beak the next part in the story. Through all this, we cannot get anyone to actually corroborate the claims - something that is rather suspect considering that these were all at parties.

He husband is about as credible in this as Mark Judge - that is to say irrelevant. The therapist's notes are not contestant with her story. The other accusations brought up have even less substance. No one is coming forward to back her up at all.

The fact that there is such a big deal with his former roommate basically confirming that Kavanaugh was a pretty normal guy in college. That is what this has come to - ignoring the accusations and focusing on simply character assassination.

 

[caddo kid]

So, you go with the guy that fucked around on every wife he ever had, instead of a woman that was cheated on by her own horn dog husband? LOL. Got cha.

FYI, there were more than two candidates on the ballot.

There were only two who stood a chance. A vote for Dr. Stein or one of the others was just a vote for Clinton.

Mrs. Clinton was Bill Clinton enabler, not a victim at all. Her record at destroying those who complained is legendary.

Like I already stated, "you go with the guy (Trump) that fucked around on every wife he ever had, instead of a woman (HRC) that was cheated on by her own horn dog husband?"

You wanted a winner, no matter what. That just proves you are void of morality based on the choice you made.

 

[toobfreak]

Kavenaugh being a rapist adds to his appeal among conservatives

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Listening to Ford's polygraph tester, I was a bit moved until I realized he only asked her two very broad, easy, blanket, general questions. Why? Then he admitted that its pretty easy to fool the poly test if you believe what you are saying.

Then as I listened to Ford testify just now, I was again somewhat moved and concerned she was telling the truth until she got to the remodeling of her house some time ago and asked her husband to put two front doors on the the house. When asked, that is when Ford allegedly told her husband about the assault saying that Kavanaugh had assaulted her many years earlier and might someday be a Supreme Court Justice and was worried he might come after her?

Huh? Amazing that she had the vision to think of Brett all those decades later, now married, with family, home and career, wanting TWO doors on her home because she thought he might become a SC Justice.

Sorry. That just doesn't wash, honey. That is where you lost me.

Here's a girl who admits that at age 15(?) went to an all-boy school party drinking and was --horror of horrors-- petted by a boy there! And petting is all that occurred because she was wearing a one-piece bathing suit under her street clothes, so all that basically happened is that at worst, a couple of boys took advantage of her and felt her up for a few minutes until she got away and left.

I don't know about you but when we were kids, it was considered pretty normal to want to chase girls. And most normal, healthy girls rather enjoyed being chased. If they didn't want kissed or touched, they let you know---- some didn't, but a lot of them did. It's called normal healthy sexual development.

Apparently Ford was OK all these years with Kavanaugh being a judge and a U.S. Circuit Judge having had the temerity to have actually petted her in her youth, just not a Supreme Court Judge. Hmm.

 

[caddo kid]

Kavenaugh being a rapist adds to his appeal among conservatives

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Listening to Ford's polygraph tester, I was a bit moved until I realized he only asked her two very broad, easy, blanket, general questions. Why? Then he admitted that its pretty easy to fool the poly test if you believe what you are saying.

Then as I listened to Ford testify just now, I was again somewhat moved and concerned she was telling the truth until she got to the remodeling of her house some time ago and asked her husband to put two front doors on the the house. When asked, that is when Ford allegedly told her husband about the assault saying that Kavanaugh had assaulted her many years earlier and might someday be a Supreme Court Justice and was worried he might come after her?

Huh? Amazing that she had the vision to think of Brett all those decades later, now married, with family, home and career, wanting TWO doors on her home because she thought he might become a SC Justice.

Sorry. That just doesn't wash, honey. That is where you lost me.

Here's a girl who admits that at age 15(?) went to an all-boy school party drinking and was --horror of horrors-- petted by a boy there! And petting is all that occurred because she was wearing a one-piece bathing suit under her street clothes, so all that basically happened is that at worst, a couple of boys took advantage of her and felt her up for a few minutes until she got away and left.

I don't know about you but when we were kids, it was considered pretty normal to want to chase girls. And most normal, healthy girls rather enjoyed being chased. If they didn't want kissed or touched, they let you know---- some didn't, but a lot of them did. It's called normal healthy sexual development.

Apparently Ford was OK all these years with Kavanaugh being a judge and a U.S. Circuit Judge having had the temerity to have actually petted her in her youth, just not a Supreme Court Judge. Hmm.

well, it sure sounds like you are all for folks getting sexually assaulted against their will; real classy

 

[toobfreak]

well, it sure sounds like you are all for folks getting sexually assaulted against their will; real classy

Funny, I don't remember any of you democrats being all for and hot after Bill Clinton to be impeached and removed from office when MULTIPLE women claiming actual RAPE came forward?! To my mind, being president is even more serious than just a judge.

But more so, I am NOT for being sexually assaulted, but I also realize that at that age, there is a fine line between fooling around and actual assault. Ford admits she never told her parents because SHE KNEW she shouldn't have been there in the first place going to an older all-boy's school under age drinking and looking for a little excitement. Seems she found it. Ever hear the expression that boys will be boys? Honestly, they will. Maybe some girls don't understand how such an action appears to a guy as an expression of sexual interest or availability.

But more to the point, while NOT for sexual assault, I'm also not for the warrantless destruction of a person's life just on the unverified, unproven, uncorroborated word of another. That is just too much absolute unmitigated unchecked power to put into anyone's hands. If Ford could testify NOW, if she could tell her husband years ago when remodeling their home, then she's had thirty-six YEARS to report this to the authorities.

NOT buying Ford's claim that she envisioned Brett going to the Supreme Court long ago while remodeling their home to want TWO doors on the front of their house so he couldn't "come after her." Honey, you are NOT being square with us!

 

[Polishprince]

well, it sure sounds like you are all for folks getting sexually assaulted against their will; real classy

But its all bullshit, caddo. That's the point.

Thinking that the students of a premiere Washington DC high school would organize weekly Rape Train parties so popular that women in their 20's would be regular attendees, and no one would say anything then, or for 35 years, is beyond the pale incredulous.

Just plain, unadulterated bullshit, and I don't think you believe it either. You just don't like Judge Kavanaugh's politics, and you are willing to destroy his family and his career, to punish him for his heretical beliefs.

 

[caddo kid]

well, it sure sounds like you are all for folks getting sexually assaulted against their will; real classy

But its all bullshit, caddo. That's the point.

Thinking that the students of a premiere Washington DC high school would organize weekly Rape Train parties so popular that women in their 20's would be regular attendees, and no one would say anything then, or for 35 years, is beyond the pale incredulous.

Just plain, unadulterated bullshit, and I don't think you believe it either. You just don't like Judge Kavanaugh's politics, and you are willing to destroy his family and his career, to punish him for his heretical beliefs.

get over it; Kavanaugh is toast

 

[Polishprince]

well, it sure sounds like you are all for folks getting sexually assaulted against their will; real classy

But its all bullshit, caddo. That's the point.

Thinking that the students of a premiere Washington DC high school would organize weekly Rape Train parties so popular that women in their 20's would be regular attendees, and no one would say anything then, or for 35 years, is beyond the pale incredulous.

Just plain, unadulterated bullshit, and I don't think you believe it either. You just don't like Judge Kavanaugh's politics, and you are willing to destroy his family and his career, to punish him for his heretical beliefs.

get over it; Kavanaugh is toast

We'll see within 48 hours, the vote is on.

But if your right, this will change the courts forever. Good people aren't going to want to serve in positions requiring confirmation.