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Then let us watch as it plays out in the Fla court system
Stand your ground.
Case dismissed.
In my case, that is what happened. There was still a trial.
Not necessarily.
The video itself is enough to not press charges based on Florida law.
And, a court will decide that.
The DA will look at the video and decide if it was self defense.
If he thinks it wasnt there will be a trial and the guy will walk based on stand your ground and fear for his life.
Then let us watch as it plays out in the Fla court system
Stand your ground.
Case dismissed.
In my case, that is what happened. There was still a trial.
Not necessarily.
The video itself is enough to not press charges based on Florida law.
And, a court will decide that.
The DA will look at the video and decide if it was self defense.
If he thinks it wasnt there will be a trial and the guy will walk based on stand your ground and fear for his life.
Justifiable use of deadly force or not?
In the link below is an article with a video that shows a "stand your ground" incident in Clearwater Florida. A women illegally parked in a handicapped spot and got into an argument with a man who confronted her about it. The women's boyfriend, who was in the store at the time, comes out to see the argument and pushes the man to the ground. With the man on the ground he pulls out a gun and aims at the man who assaulted him. The man who committed the assault then backs up. Despite backing away, the man fires his gun anyways hitting the man in the chest. The injured man then runs into the store where he collapses on the ground and dies in front of his five your old son.
My opinion:
Both the women and her boyfriend committed illegal acts which led to the incident. But, I do not feel the man who was assaulted was justified in shooting his attacker. The Attacker had backed off after the gun was pulled. Parking in handicap spot and pushing someone to the ground or both illegal, but punishment for those actions would never warrant the death penalty. Had the attacker continued to assault or move towards the man pushed to the ground, then you might have a case where shooting the gun might be warranted. But that is not what happened. The attacker backed away after the gun was pulled. Then he was shot and killed, dying in front of his five year old son in the store. The man has two other children as well.
I've seen people get pushed to the ground like that in the school yard. Its wrong, you have a right to defend yourself. But in this case, taking another mans life was NOT justified. Call the police and the film of the incident would be enough evidence to punish the attacker in an appropriate manner.
The article and video of the incident are in the link below:
https://nypost.com/2018/07/20/stand...r-in-deadly-fight-over-parking-space-sheriff/
media link from youtube:
You’re entitled to your opinion but it’s legally irrelevant and factually wrong.
Pursuant to Florida law the shooting was lawful – whether ‘justified’ or not is also irrelevant; Florida SYG doctrine doesn’t require ‘justification,’ all that’s required is for the shooter to have a reasonable fear that his well-being or life was in jeopardy.
In another state the same use of deadly force might be unlawful.
Let the court and a jury decide.
There will be neither as the shooter was not charged.
I thought it said they were still deciding. He should be charged minimum second degree murder. I'd convict him of first degree murder based on the film given that he was repeatedly trying to stage that scenario
Of course I watched the video. We cannot hear what was said if anything but it happened fast. I don't think the the shooter was wrong. Did he have to shoot him? We don't know, maybe not, but what we do know is that he did shoot him after being violently knocked to the ground. If that had not happened, he would not have gotten shot. I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree!Justified. If the guy on the ground was in fear of his safety.
Didn't watch the video, did you? I'm a strong second amendment supporter, but that was just murder. There was no rational self defense. I'd call it first degree murder given that the guy clearly was trying to create that exact situation
Let the court and a jury decide.
There will be neither as the shooter was not charged.
I thought it said they were still deciding. He should be charged minimum second degree murder. I'd convict him of first degree murder based on the film given that he was repeatedly trying to stage that scenario
I'm not sure how you can say he staged it,let alone repeatedly.
He was close enough too him to still be a threat.Of course I watched the video. We cannot hear what was said if anything but it happened fast. I don't think the the shooter was wrong. Did he have to shoot him? We don't know, maybe not, but what we do know is that he did shoot him after being violently knocked to the ground. If that had not happened, he would not have gotten shot. I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree!Justified. If the guy on the ground was in fear of his safety.
Didn't watch the video, did you? I'm a strong second amendment supporter, but that was just murder. There was no rational self defense. I'd call it first degree murder given that the guy clearly was trying to create that exact situation
Bull shit. When he shot him, the man was not threatening him
False comparison fallacy.Justified. If the guy on the ground was in fear of his safety.
So as long as your afraid, your justified in taking another mans life? Taking another mans life is dependent on your emotional state?
The guy assaulted him.
Play stupid games win stupid prizes.
Would it be ok for a child to do this on the play ground? Since when does the punishment for assault involve the DEATH PENALTY? Has anyone ever been given the death penalty for pushing a man to the ground in the United States?
13 year old's often do. Sometimes its easy to take Daddy's gun to school for show and tell as well as other purposes.
The store owner's testimony says as much.Let the court and a jury decide.
There will be neither as the shooter was not charged.
I thought it said they were still deciding. He should be charged minimum second degree murder. I'd convict him of first degree murder based on the film given that he was repeatedly trying to stage that scenario
I'm not sure how you can say he staged it,let alone repeatedly.
Stand your ground.
Case dismissed.
In my case, that is what happened. There was still a trial.
Not necessarily.
The video itself is enough to not press charges based on Florida law.
And, a court will decide that.
The DA will look at the video and decide if it was self defense.
If he thinks it wasnt there will be a trial and the guy will walk based on stand your ground and fear for his life.
That's ridiculous. There was no reasonable fear. Did you watch the video? I'm a strong believer in stand your ground. After the guy shoved him, he was well away from the shooter making no threatening gestures. That isn't stand your ground.
Not to mention that the shooter kept trying to stage that scenario. He wanted to kill someone
Justifiable use of deadly force or not?
In the link below is an article with a video that shows a "stand your ground" incident in Clearwater Florida. A women illegally parked in a handicapped spot and got into an argument with a man who confronted her about it. The women's boyfriend, who was in the store at the time, comes out to see the argument and pushes the man to the ground. With the man on the ground he pulls out a gun and aims at the man who assaulted him. The man who committed the assault then backs up. Despite backing away, the man fires his gun anyways hitting the man in the chest. The injured man then runs into the store where he collapses on the ground and dies in front of his five your old son.
My opinion:
Both the women and her boyfriend committed illegal acts which led to the incident. But, I do not feel the man who was assaulted was justified in shooting his attacker. The Attacker had backed off after the gun was pulled. Parking in handicap spot and pushing someone to the ground or both illegal, but punishment for those actions would never warrant the death penalty. Had the attacker continued to assault or move towards the man pushed to the ground, then you might have a case where shooting the gun might be warranted. But that is not what happened. The attacker backed away after the gun was pulled. Then he was shot and killed, dying in front of his five year old son in the store. The man has two other children as well.
I've seen people get pushed to the ground like that in the school yard. Its wrong, you have a right to defend yourself. But in this case, taking another mans life was NOT justified. Call the police and the film of the incident would be enough evidence to punish the attacker in an appropriate manner.
The article and video of the incident are in the link below:
https://nypost.com/2018/07/20/stand...r-in-deadly-fight-over-parking-space-sheriff/
media link from youtube:
The store owner's testimony says as much.Let the court and a jury decide.
There will be neither as the shooter was not charged.
I thought it said they were still deciding. He should be charged minimum second degree murder. I'd convict him of first degree murder based on the film given that he was repeatedly trying to stage that scenario
I'm not sure how you can say he staged it,let alone repeatedly.
Straw man fallacy.I think you are just trolling. Being in fear of your life is a legal state. You don't that getting violently shoved to the ground made him happy do you?Justified. If the guy on the ground was in fear of his safety.
So as long as your afraid, your justified in taking another mans life? Taking another mans life is dependent on your emotional state?
Really. How about being afraid because someone is yelling at you an appears aggressive? You think its legal to shoot someone if their just yelling at you because it makes you feel afraid? What if the person is AFRAID because of the way someone looks?
No I didn't see that. Maybe you are correct. I don't know.Let the court and a jury decide.
There will be neither as the shooter was not charged.
I thought it said they were still deciding. He should be charged minimum second degree murder. I'd convict him of first degree murder based on the film given that he was repeatedly trying to stage that scenario
I'm not sure how you can say he staged it,let alone repeatedly.
Again from the video. Did you listen to the store owner saying he was repeatedly doing that?
He keeps verbally assaulting people over the same handycap parking spot while armed and ready to shoot. That's wanting something to happen
I did not ask about Florida state law. I asked YOU if you think this is a justifiable use of force, regardless of state and federal laws. What do YOU think when you see this. Is it right or wrong?
So whatever the guy on the ground says is law?Justified. If the guy on the ground was in fear of his safety.
