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Oh my gosh, oh my gosh, oh my GOSH!!!
If I am correct and these other experts on ancestry are correct, then my father's father's side, goes to 1590, and my great grand father married, an Indian Maiden....HOLY CRAP!
What the heck does that mean....an Indian Maiden?
Because right after him it shows his son being born in ENGLAND, yes if I have followed my family line correctly, I am English from England, but his wife was Dutch....so I am Dutch too.... and it shows his son being born in Worcester, England now called Worcestershire...yes, like the sauce....
BUT HIS DAUGHTER was born in Connecticut...New Haven I think it said in 1622?
So the family must have been going back and forth to England and here?
but here is my problem, that just does not make any sense.... My Great, Great grandfather in the 1850 census, was 3 years old and living with I am presuming his grandfather, my great X3 or maybe times 4 grandfather and a whole bunch of other older females in the census with all the same family last name, but no males old enough to be his father, just my grandfather and grandmother who were around 60 at the time and no way could they be his parents, so I figured grand parents?
but who were the women old enough to be his mother? Was he born out of wedlock and one of the family named girls was his mother? But there were 3 other young children around his young age, same last name also on the census and the grandparents were too old to be their parents imo.... one girl was 25 years old listed and another alleged daughter was 24 yrs old but the other daughter's listed were all 2 or 3 years apart....sooooooo
I thought, maybe one of these women was maybe the wife of a male son that was either dead or not present at the 1850 census....so I searched the database on both the 24 year old and 25 year old and SCORE, the one named Matilda, was the wife of a man named Leroy "family name".
And in 1860 Census, after my great X3 gramps had died in 1858, it shows Matilda living in a household with the 3 young children on the 1850 census, but again, no Leroy in the household...so the 3 very young children in my Gramps X3 household were all her children...
But who the heck was this "Leroy" same last name? Was he a son of Josiah, my gramps x 3? Must have been? His wife and kids lived in the same household all with the same last name???
that's where I am at....trying to confirm that Josiah had a son named Leroy or was he one of his Brother's sons?
What does not make sense to me, is the name Leroy? All of his other male family members all had Biblical names or English names, like Josiah, Isaac, William, John and the girl names throughout the 400 year search were Rebecca, and Catherine, and Sarah Ann...type stuff...
And I can not find anything on this Leroy....? Did Leroy stand for something more formal like Leonard? I just don't know....? Leroy seems odd....but all of the three young children living in the household that were Matilda's and Leroy's were named with family names and one was also named after my grandfather times3, Josiah, and the baby Daughter was named after my grandmother times3 Sarah Ann, and the other one, my grampa for certain, William....which was one of Josiah's brother's names so all family names....but LEROY???
Well, I did find Leroy's and Matilda's Marriage certificate....but back then, people were not required to give formal names on the census, like sometimes my great x 2 grand father showed up on other censuses as William J, another Wm J, another Wm....another as just William....
So just because Leroy was the name on the marriage certificate to Matilda still did not mean his real, formal name was Leroy....?
Anyway, I found on another distant Family member's tree on Ancestry.com that Leroy disappeared in 1852, never to be found and presumed dead....and this is probably why I was never able to find him on a census later on with Matilda...(which they had also posted a picture of Matilda, and that was cool being able to see a picture of what she looked like)
But what did he do for a living? Why was he not on the 1850 Census with Matilda and her kids with his father's family??? And Matilda had another child with him born in 1851 or 1852 with another formal English name, Charles....also a name the family frequently used for boys... so obviously he kept coming home every once in a while to have more kids with his wife?
Was he in the Service/Military and away for this reason???
all questions that need to be answered....
sooooooooo, I'm off to see what more I can find out...did Josiah really have a son named Leroy?
Hopefully we will not lose electricity with this Cyclone Bomb Blizzard that's heading this way...we are suppose to get 16 inches of snow today, it started snowing a couple of hours ago....the hubby isn't going to work, thank goodness, so hopefully the generator will start when and if we do lose electricity...
If I am correct and these other experts on ancestry are correct, then my father's father's side, goes to 1590, and my great grand father married, an Indian Maiden....HOLY CRAP!
What the heck does that mean....an Indian Maiden?
Because right after him it shows his son being born in ENGLAND, yes if I have followed my family line correctly, I am English from England, but his wife was Dutch....so I am Dutch too.... and it shows his son being born in Worcester, England now called Worcestershire...yes, like the sauce....
BUT HIS DAUGHTER was born in Connecticut...New Haven I think it said in 1622?
So the family must have been going back and forth to England and here?
but here is my problem, that just does not make any sense.... My Great, Great grandfather in the 1850 census, was 3 years old and living with I am presuming his grandfather, my great X3 or maybe times 4 grandfather and a whole bunch of other older females in the census with all the same family last name, but no males old enough to be his father, just my grandfather and grandmother who were around 60 at the time and no way could they be his parents, so I figured grand parents?
but who were the women old enough to be his mother? Was he born out of wedlock and one of the family named girls was his mother? But there were 3 other young children around his young age, same last name also on the census and the grandparents were too old to be their parents imo.... one girl was 25 years old listed and another alleged daughter was 24 yrs old but the other daughter's listed were all 2 or 3 years apart....sooooooo
I thought, maybe one of these women was maybe the wife of a male son that was either dead or not present at the 1850 census....so I searched the database on both the 24 year old and 25 year old and SCORE, the one named Matilda, was the wife of a man named Leroy "family name".
And in 1860 Census, after my great X3 gramps had died in 1858, it shows Matilda living in a household with the 3 young children on the 1850 census, but again, no Leroy in the household...so the 3 very young children in my Gramps X3 household were all her children...
But who the heck was this "Leroy" same last name? Was he a son of Josiah, my gramps x 3? Must have been? His wife and kids lived in the same household all with the same last name???
that's where I am at....trying to confirm that Josiah had a son named Leroy or was he one of his Brother's sons?
What does not make sense to me, is the name Leroy? All of his other male family members all had Biblical names or English names, like Josiah, Isaac, William, John and the girl names throughout the 400 year search were Rebecca, and Catherine, and Sarah Ann...type stuff...
And I can not find anything on this Leroy....? Did Leroy stand for something more formal like Leonard? I just don't know....? Leroy seems odd....but all of the three young children living in the household that were Matilda's and Leroy's were named with family names and one was also named after my grandfather times3, Josiah, and the baby Daughter was named after my grandmother times3 Sarah Ann, and the other one, my grampa for certain, William....which was one of Josiah's brother's names so all family names....but LEROY???
Well, I did find Leroy's and Matilda's Marriage certificate....but back then, people were not required to give formal names on the census, like sometimes my great x 2 grand father showed up on other censuses as William J, another Wm J, another Wm....another as just William....
So just because Leroy was the name on the marriage certificate to Matilda still did not mean his real, formal name was Leroy....?
Anyway, I found on another distant Family member's tree on Ancestry.com that Leroy disappeared in 1852, never to be found and presumed dead....and this is probably why I was never able to find him on a census later on with Matilda...(which they had also posted a picture of Matilda, and that was cool being able to see a picture of what she looked like)
But what did he do for a living? Why was he not on the 1850 Census with Matilda and her kids with his father's family??? And Matilda had another child with him born in 1851 or 1852 with another formal English name, Charles....also a name the family frequently used for boys... so obviously he kept coming home every once in a while to have more kids with his wife?
Was he in the Service/Military and away for this reason???
all questions that need to be answered....
sooooooooo, I'm off to see what more I can find out...did Josiah really have a son named Leroy?
Hopefully we will not lose electricity with this Cyclone Bomb Blizzard that's heading this way...we are suppose to get 16 inches of snow today, it started snowing a couple of hours ago....the hubby isn't going to work, thank goodness, so hopefully the generator will start when and if we do lose electricity...