Just 2 Weeks Ago Liberals Here Said Immigrant Vetting was "Comprehensive" and "Extensive"

[depotoo]

Actually 5 agencies, according to testimony today before Congress

You can't possibly be stupid enough to not understand that the vetting process for refugees is not the same vetting process as used for legal immigrants on spousal visas.

Wow...that was an eye opener. Thanks.

Vetting process for refugees: Goes through 4 different agencies, takes 18 months-2 years to be approved.
Vetting process for spousal visas: Goes through 1 agency, takes 24-48 hours.

Again, Tashfeen Malik was screened twice, by two different agencies, and was interviewed twice in the process and underwent two separate background checks.

And how about all the repeat jihadists who escaped detection among the Gitmo detainees, after undergoing a multiyear, multi-interrogation, multi-review-board vetting process, including polygraphs?

 

[depotoo]

Don't forget the attempt in Garland, Tx, the recruiters offices, the hatchet attack in New York City, the double beheadings in New Jersey, and many more.

Vetting process for refugees: Goes through 4 different agencies, takes 18 months-2 years to be approved.
Vetting process for spousal visas: Goes through 1 agency, takes 24-48 hours.

Ya ever stop to think that maybe we should stop doing that?

Giving out spousal visas?

No, I think we should continue doing that.

Even after San Bernardino?
Obviously we have reason to be scared of the women. And I figure it's only a matter of time before they strap a kid up with a suicide vest.
Oh well,at least they appear to be killing democrats for the most part.

Yeah, even after San Bernadino.

Why is it so hard for you guys to understand that we don't think a single tragic event is reason enough to throw the baby out with the bathwater?

Think about all the arguments you guys use in support of guns every time there's a mass shooting - and try to apply it to this situation.

Wasn't it not long ago that a man/jihadist cut a woman's head off in the work place? Then there is the fort Hood tragedy, and the attempt by the underwear bomber or the shoe bomber, and 9-11, the Boston marathon and now san- bernadena Cali ? On and on it all just goes, but denial by the left is just amazing when one thinks about it. Trump was absolutely right when he said no more... Americans are not guinnea pigs in the lefts experiment from hell, and it just has to stop... Period.

 

[Zander]

The latest outburst of self-righteous indignation directed at Donald Trump is why the people have lost faith in government. They are such hypocritical liars...
Congress is set to approve a bill with broad bipartisan support that would deny visa-free travel to anyone who has been in Iraq or Syria in the past five years.

House votes to scrutinize travel without visas

Are you under the impression that suspending visa waivers is the same as unilaterally declaring that no muslims can enter the country?

No. Are you?

No, I'm well aware of the difference between the two. Your post implies that they are somehow comparable, though.

They are comparable. One is smart and the other is incredibly stupid.

The proposed legislation would end visa-free travel from 38 friendly nations like France and Belgium, where Muslims make up a significant minority of the population. Trump’s proposal – actually makes more sense, in that it wouldn’t include a french wine wholesaler on a tourist visa or a Belgian Jewish doctor here to attend a medical conference.

The proposed legislation would do no such thing - it would only end visa waivers for people who had travelled to Iraq or Syria in the last 5 years.[/QUOTE

The latest outburst of self-righteous indignation directed at Donald Trump is why the people have lost faith in government. They are such hypocritical liars...
Congress is set to approve a bill with broad bipartisan support that would deny visa-free travel to anyone who has been in Iraq or Syria in the past five years.

House votes to scrutinize travel without visas

Are you under the impression that suspending visa waivers is the same as unilaterally declaring that no muslims can enter the country?

No. Are you?

No, I'm well aware of the difference between the two. Your post implies that they are somehow comparable, though.

They are comparable. One is smart and the other is incredibly stupid.

The proposed legislation would end visa-free travel from 38 friendly nations like France and Belgium, where Muslims make up a significant minority of the population. Trump’s proposal – actually makes more sense, in that it wouldn’t include a french wine wholesaler on a tourist visa or a Belgian Jewish doctor here to attend a medical conference.

The proposed legislation would do no such thing - it would only end visa waivers for people who had travelled to Iraq or Syria in the last 5 years.

Tens of thousands of people from those 38 nations have been to Iraq and Syria over the past 5 years. Humanitarians, Businessmen, Doctors, et.al. ..... Why should all people be inconvenienced when it is only RADICAL MUSLIMS that are the terrorists?

The 1998 Lautenberg amendment- granted FAVORABLE immigration treatment based on religiion. Trump’s proposal to single out Muslims for unfavorable treatment is entirely in line with this precedent.

Tens of thousands of people from those 38 nations have been to Iraq and Syria over the past 5 years. Humanitarians, Businessmen, Doctors, et.al. ..... Why should all people be inconvenienced when it is only RADICAL MUSLIMS that are the terrorists?

The 1998 Lautenberg amendment- granted FAVORABLE immigration treatment based on religiion. Trump’s proposal to single out Muslims for unfavorable treatment is entirely in line with this precedent.

 

[beagle9]

Don't forget the attempt in Garland, Tx, the recruiters offices, the hatchet attack in New York City, the double beheadings in New Jersey, and many more.

Ya ever stop to think that maybe we should stop doing that?

Giving out spousal visas?

No, I think we should continue doing that.

Even after San Bernardino?
Obviously we have reason to be scared of the women. And I figure it's only a matter of time before they strap a kid up with a suicide vest.
Oh well,at least they appear to be killing democrats for the most part.

Yeah, even after San Bernadino.

Why is it so hard for you guys to understand that we don't think a single tragic event is reason enough to throw the baby out with the bathwater?

Think about all the arguments you guys use in support of guns every time there's a mass shooting - and try to apply it to this situation.

Wasn't it not long ago that a man/jihadist cut a woman's head off in the work place? Then there is the fort Hood tragedy, and the attempt by the underwear bomber or the shoe bomber, and 9-11, the Boston marathon and now san- bernadena Cali ? On and on it all just goes, but denial by the left is just amazing when one thinks about it. Trump was absolutely right when he said no more... Americans are not guinnea pigs in the lefts experiment from hell, and it just has to stop... Period.

Exactly.. It's amazing the denial by the left in which gives aid and comfort to the enemy... Just amazing.

 

[beagle9]

It's time to reverse the idiocy, and to take back America from the idiots... Sorry to talk that way but the truth is the truth about it all.. Trump is spot on, and I know he doesn't mean all Muslims to be threatened by his speak, but only the ones who should be worried about his speak.. Like he said about the media, they are completely dishonest in the ways that they operate.

 

[depotoo]

I was just reminded of another recent one, the stabbing of 4 in CA, where the assailant student had an isis flag in his pocket and a manifesto they won't release, and they blamed it on his being thrown out of a study group. That was about a month ago.

Don't forget the attempt in Garland, Tx, the recruiters offices, the hatchet attack in New York City, the double beheadings in New Jersey, and many more.

Giving out spousal visas?

No, I think we should continue doing that.

Even after San Bernardino?
Obviously we have reason to be scared of the women. And I figure it's only a matter of time before they strap a kid up with a suicide vest.
Oh well,at least they appear to be killing democrats for the most part.

Yeah, even after San Bernadino.

Why is it so hard for you guys to understand that we don't think a single tragic event is reason enough to throw the baby out with the bathwater?

Think about all the arguments you guys use in support of guns every time there's a mass shooting - and try to apply it to this situation.

Wasn't it not long ago that a man/jihadist cut a woman's head off in the work place? Then there is the fort Hood tragedy, and the attempt by the underwear bomber or the shoe bomber, and 9-11, the Boston marathon and now san- bernadena Cali ? On and on it all just goes, but denial by the left is just amazing when one thinks about it. Trump was absolutely right when he said no more... Americans are not guinnea pigs in the lefts experiment from hell, and it just has to stop... Period.

Exactly.. It's amazing the denial by the left in which gives aid and comfort to the enemy... Just amazing.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Lets see Doc has claimed that visas are easy to get and that vetting refuges is tougher, all after claiming one gets a marriage visa in 24 to 48 hours. Proven wrong by me. Further in another thread he abandoned when pressed he claimed that Muslims in the States had turned in fellow Muslims as terrorists or planning terror attacks. In that thread when pressed he never ONCE gave an example of any such behavior and in fact abandoned the thread when pressed on it.