judge to Occupy Boston: screw!

Imagine, occupation is not speech but money is. Pacs and individuals can spend unlimited money to influence our politics but they are putting limits on speech when it comes to the only way to counter the big money.
Waaaaawaaaaaaawaaaaaaaaaaaa!

If the squatters are really the 99%, then they'd have little trouble pooling their resources to counter the "big money".

But they're not....They're more like the .99% of whiny little malcontent moochers, willing to latch onto any and every excuse to rationalize their covetous proclivities.
 
2002 McCain-Feingold campaign-finance reform law limits corporate money influence.

Do you really think so? or are you just saying that?

Well after reflecting upon the campaign contributions published on opensecrets.org over previous & current election cycles it would appear that law had little affect.

Actual donations to candidates is indeed still covered, but that is not what I was talking about and you know it. In 2110 the SC said that anyone can spend as much as they want on so-called advocacy ads. You can buy as much airtime as you want to broadcast anything you want factual or not as long as you are not directly connected with a specific campaign, you know this stuff. You can't really support a candidate but you can damned sure smear one. TV is going to be unwatchable next year.
 
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Do you really think so? or are you just saying that?

Well after reflecting upon the campaign contributions published on opensecrets.org over previous & current election cycles it would appear that law had little affect.

Actual donations to candidates is indeed still covered, but that is not what I was talking about and you know it. In 2110 the SC said that anyone can spend as much as they want on so-called advocacy ads. You can buy as much airtime as you want to broadcast anything you want factual or not as long as you are not directly connected with a specific campaign, you know this stuff. You can't really support a candidate but you can damned sure smear one. TV is going to be unwatchable next year.

Technically there is no such thing as freedom of speech. You can't just say anything to a cop, judge or public official without losing your freedom. Things you say can & will be used against you. Things you say will not exonerate you. The media can suppress speech, slant coverage, edit speech & events to attract viewers or if it is paid to do so. You can't yell fire in a crowded theater. You can't speak loudly during quiet hours in most cities.

Freedom of speech is a myth like Santa Clause.
 
Most have not read our current Bill of Rights.

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Well after reflecting upon the campaign contributions published on opensecrets.org over previous & current election cycles it would appear that law had little affect.

Actual donations to candidates is indeed still covered, but that is not what I was talking about and you know it. In 2110 the SC said that anyone can spend as much as they want on so-called advocacy ads. You can buy as much airtime as you want to broadcast anything you want factual or not as long as you are not directly connected with a specific campaign, you know this stuff. You can't really support a candidate but you can damned sure smear one. TV is going to be unwatchable next year.

Technically there is no such thing as freedom of speech. You can't just say anything to a cop, judge or public official without losing your freedom. Things you say can & will be used against you. Things you say will not exonerate you. The media can suppress speech, slant coverage, edit speech & events to attract viewers or if it is paid to do so. You can't yell fire in a crowded theater. You can't speak loudly during quiet hours in most cities.

Freedom of speech is a myth like Santa Clause.

It's also something we should never take lightly when some partisan judge starts defining limits. Kick this on up for appeal and let's see what happens.
 
"The judge wrote in her 25-page decision that protesters had no right to seize Dewey Square, which they have occupied since Sept. 30.

She reasoned that “while Occupy Boston protesters may be exercising their expressive rights during their protest, they have no privilege under the First Amendment to seize and hold the land on which they sit.”

Drawing a distinction between the “occupation” of the land and the “living activities” on the land, McIntyre wrote, “The act of occupation, this court has determined as a matter of law, is not speech. Nor is it immune from criminal prosecution for trespass or other crimes.”

Judge rules against Occupy Boston protesters, clearing way for eviction; Mayor Menino urges them to leave - Metro Desk - Local news updates from The Boston Globe

about fucking time

Boy, you have all the wingnuts thanking you for that one. :cuckoo:
 
"The judge wrote in her 25-page decision that protesters had no right to seize Dewey Square, which they have occupied since Sept. 30.

She reasoned that “while Occupy Boston protesters may be exercising their expressive rights during their protest, they have no privilege under the First Amendment to seize and hold the land on which they sit.”

Drawing a distinction between the “occupation” of the land and the “living activities” on the land, McIntyre wrote, “The act of occupation, this court has determined as a matter of law, is not speech. Nor is it immune from criminal prosecution for trespass or other crimes.”

Judge rules against Occupy Boston protesters, clearing way for eviction; Mayor Menino urges them to leave - Metro Desk - Local news updates from The Boston Globe

about fucking time

Boy, you have all the wingnuts thanking you for that one. :cuckoo:

Only wingnuts think squatting is free speech.
 
Hub preps to remove Occupy Boston’s tent city - BostonHerald.com

“The city strongly encourages the Occupy movement to abide by the Rose Kennedy Greenway regulations and remove their tents and refrain from camping in that area,” the mayor said hours after a Superior Court judge lifted the temporary restraining order that prevented the city from evicting the occupiers from their tent city.

“The conditions at Dewey Square have deteriorated significantly and pose very real health and safety risks,” Menino said. “The city will act appropriately to fulfill our duty to preserve the public’s peace and safety.”

City Hall sources said the city could move in to remove the occupiers this weekend. One law enforcement source said police plan to leaflet the encampment to give the squatters notice of when they will have to strike camp.

“Ultimately it will come down to a removal process,” the source said.


So they are still allowed to protest, which is good, they just can't illegally camp out and continue to do property damage to the square anymore.

What does the USMB think?
 
You guys love the notion of regulating Average Americans into the ground... but when it comes to regulating corporations or banks, the thought repulses you.

If only you sleazeballs put as much effort into protecting the environment as you put into protecting the man made environment.
 
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You guys love the notion of regulating Average Americans into the ground... but when it comes to regulating corporations or banks, the thought repulses you.

If only you sleazeballs put as much effort into protecting the environment and you put into protecting the man made environment.

Ok now that you got your talking points out what do you think of this Judge's Ruling?

By the way she is the same judge that allowed OWS to be protected from police eviction so your post sounds a bit funny in light of the facts. Also Menino is a liberal and supports the OWS movement.
 
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You guys love the notion of regulating Average Americans into the ground... but when it comes to regulating corporations or banks, the thought repulses you.

If only you sleazeballs put as much effort into protecting the environment and you put into protecting the man made environment. .

I heard over half of poor people on disability believe they will be multi-milionaires someday,that is your Fox News watcher.

You guys do understand the subject matter of the thread is the judges decision and your opinions on it, correct?
 
You guys love the notion of regulating Average Americans into the ground... but when it comes to regulating corporations or banks, the thought repulses you.

If only you sleazeballs put as much effort into protecting the environment and you put into protecting the man made environment. .

I heard over half of poor people on disability believe they will be multi-milionaires someday,that is your Fox News watcher.

You guys do understand the subject matter of the thread is the judges decision and your opinions on it, correct?

I think it is a breach of the Constitution but when have judges ever worried about that.
 
I heard over half of poor people on disability believe they will be multi-milionaires someday,that is your Fox News watcher.

You guys do understand the subject matter of the thread is the judges decision and your opinions on it, correct?

I think it is a breach of the Constitution but when have judges ever worried about that.

What part of her decision is a violation of the federal or state constitution?

They are still allowed to peacefully gather and protest they just aren't allowed to break city ordinances in the process.
 
You guys love the notion of regulating Average Americans into the ground... but when it comes to regulating corporations or banks, the thought repulses you.

If only you sleazeballs put as much effort into protecting the environment and you put into protecting the man made environment.

From cowman to strawman. :eusa_clap::eusa_clap:
 
I have no problems with the smelly, disease ridden, Berkenstock wearing, slogan chanting, brain dead hippie protestors as long as they obey the law... getting them to obey the law is a good thing

My opinion is they should be allowed to peacefully assemble and protest on public property. They should also be expected to respect the rules and local laws in the process and held to that expectation just like every other group of political protestors is while organizing and protesting.
 
You guys do understand the subject matter of the thread is the judges decision and your opinions on it, correct?

I think it is a breach of the Constitution but when have judges ever worried about that.

What part of her decision is a violation of the federal or state constitution?

They are still allowed to peacefully gather and protest they just aren't allowed to break city ordinances in the process.

I think clearing protesters out is a violation a"The amendment prohibits the making of any law respecting an establishment of religion, impeding the free exercise of religion, abridging the freedom of speech, infringing on the freedom of the press, interfering with the right to peaceably assemble or prohibiting the petitioning for a governmental redress of grievances."
 

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