Ray From Cleveland
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Disinfrancisement = Let any foreigner vote in our electionsI had to register as a voter. Voting SHOULD be easier than taking a gun into a public place.And what do some of us have to do to exercise our right to firearms? When I got my CCW permit, I had to:
Take a 10 hour class and pay for it.
Go to the gun range and take shooting test for 2 hours.
Get a picture taken that was VISA acceptable.
Go downtown to the Sheriffs department and fill out an application, and get my picture taken again.
I had to be electronically fingerprinted.
To vote, get an ID, and that's too much to ask to exercise your right????
Why is that? Should one right be more difficult to exercise than another? I thought all rights were equal?
The point is that rights do not come at convenience. Sometimes you need to put a little effort to use these rights. By doing so, it's not disenfranchisement. It's simply a systematic way to use those rights so they benefit all.
It is disenfranchisement, especially since the world only went ID mad after 9/11. Lots of people from my era didn't have their births properly registered. It wasn't that big a deal with we were growing up. I didn't have or need ID to get on a plane, get a driver's license, or a SIN card, up until 9/11. Thereafter, the world changed. Suddenly I couldn't even fly across Canada without photo ID.
It should be far easier to vote, than to buy a gun, since you're not endangering any lives by voting. Every citizen has the right to vote, and the USA is the only democratic country in the world, that is using voter ID to supress the votes of those of its citizens who don't vote Republican.
To suggest otherwise, is to deliberately disregard every legitimate case of voter fraud, gerrymandering and the results of the House elections since Bill Clinton was President. Republicans are using voter suppression to maintain white power over the country, while Republican economic policies increasingly enrich their wealthy white base, at the expense of every other socio-economic group in the country.
Bullshit: When you demand "exact match" of names from government records - that's disenfranchisement.
When you demand changes to street addresses from Native Americans who have always been allowed to vote - that's disenfranchisement.
When you move the polling stations outside of the inner city neighbourhoods, to an area with no access to public transit - that's disenfranchisement.
When you prevent bus companies from transporting the elderly to polling stations, that's disenfranchisement.
When you strike names from voter records without any attempt at verification as to the status of that voter, that's disenfranchisement.
When all of the above, disproportionately take place in communities which vote for Democrats, and not in all neighbourhooods, equally, that's election fraud.
And yet you can't give one example of your list above. Counties usually handle the voting process over here. County executives are routinely voted on just like other representatives.