Judge Rules Dark Money 501(c)4 PAC's Can No Longer Keep Their Donors Anonymous

[2aguy]

"This ruling looks like a major game changer,” Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) Executive Director Noah Bookbinder said in a statement. “Based on this ruling , the public should know a whole lot more about who is giving money for the purpose of influencing an election, and it will be much harder for donors to anonymously contribute to groups that advertise in elections.”

CREW sued the FEC after Karl Rove's Crossroads GPS, a 501(c) 4 offshoot of the former Bush aide's Crossroads super PAC, failed to disclose the names of contributors behind its $6 million effort to defeat Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) in his 2012 race. A representative for Crossroads GPS did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Judge's ruling invalidates FEC regulation allowing anonymous donations to 'dark money' groups

Yes.... so now the democrats can turn their brown shirts loose on anyone who donates in a way they don't like. Fascists love the ability to target their enemies and this ruling is exactly what they want.

 

[2aguy]

I think the identity of all donors to PACs should be public information. This will enable people to better judge the information that a PAC is putting out.

I used to think like that to... until the owner of FireFox lost his company because he donated money to a political initiative the left wingers didn't like...... And since it is now fair game to attack anyone in a MAGA hat, or any member of Trump's administration.... or anyone the democrats and their brown shirts don't like, this just makes it easier to silence their enemies...who is going to donate, knowing that they may have democrat thugs show up at their home, or harrassing their employer?

 

[2aguy]

Off to the Supreme Court! I would ignore that libtard judge and run the donor list through the shredder like Hillary did!

The Citizens United ruling says money is speech. It does not say that speech can be kept secret.

This is what the IRS investigations into 501(c) 4 PAC's was about during the Obama administration.

This isn't going to go away. Citizens United, as well as 501(c) 4 PAC's even being allowed to exist, will be under attack relentlessly, until they are eventually abolished. It could take years, but that doesn't matter. They are going away, and it's just a matter of when not if.

Yes.... obama wanted the ability to send people to attack anyone who donated against the democrats.... just like they paid the Russians for information to get the illegal FISA warrants so they could spy on Trump, just like he used surveillance against AP reporters and the FOX Reporter.....

Democrats are totalitarians....they will use whatever means necessary to gain power.

 

[2aguy]

Remember when the democrat labor unions wanted open voting for unionization? They didn't want the ballot to be kept secret, because they wanted to know the names of those who voted against unionizing a workplace.

Here...

https://www.usnews.com/opinion/blog...7/unions-try-to-force-card-check-through-nlrb

Card check is popular with the union bosses looking for increased political power and increased dues money because it’s an open process that lets organizers know who’s on board and who’s not. It’s a fertile ground for the intimidation of workers and worse—which is exactly why we have elections in this country by the sacred institution of the secret ballot.

 

[skews13]

"This ruling looks like a major game changer,” Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) Executive Director Noah Bookbinder said in a statement. “Based on this ruling , the public should know a whole lot more about who is giving money for the purpose of influencing an election, and it will be much harder for donors to anonymously contribute to groups that advertise in elections.”

CREW sued the FEC after Karl Rove's Crossroads GPS, a 501(c) 4 offshoot of the former Bush aide's Crossroads super PAC, failed to disclose the names of contributors behind its $6 million effort to defeat Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) in his 2012 race. A representative for Crossroads GPS did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Judge's ruling invalidates FEC regulation allowing anonymous donations to 'dark money' groups

Yes.... so now the democrats can turn their brown shirts loose on anyone who donates in a way they don't like. Fascists love the ability to target their enemies and this ruling is exactly what they want.

You mean like the Republicans who turned their brown shirts loose on unions who openly supported candidates with their money who supported....wait for it now...workers?

What is it you are so afraid of?

I mean being the upstanding an honest actor that you are.

Being the arbiter of righteousness, there should be no problem showing everyone who you're donating money to right?

 

[PoliticalChic]

How far behind can the demand to know who one votes for, be?

It's already online and considered public information..............

How far behind can the demand to know who one votes for, be?
It's already online and considered public information..............


Come again?????

Yep. That is all kinds of jacked up, innit?

How far behind can the demand to know who one votes for, be?
It's already online and considered public information..............

Your post claims that my vote is public information.


That's nonsense.

An individual's voting history is public record
Voter Registration & Privacy
Database configuration issues expose 191 million voter records

Frequently Asked Questions | VoterRecords.com

No, you dope......only IF you vote....not for whom you vote.



Jeeeeeezzzzzzzz.

 

[2aguy]

"This ruling looks like a major game changer,” Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) Executive Director Noah Bookbinder said in a statement. “Based on this ruling , the public should know a whole lot more about who is giving money for the purpose of influencing an election, and it will be much harder for donors to anonymously contribute to groups that advertise in elections.”

CREW sued the FEC after Karl Rove's Crossroads GPS, a 501(c) 4 offshoot of the former Bush aide's Crossroads super PAC, failed to disclose the names of contributors behind its $6 million effort to defeat Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) in his 2012 race. A representative for Crossroads GPS did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Judge's ruling invalidates FEC regulation allowing anonymous donations to 'dark money' groups

Yes.... so now the democrats can turn their brown shirts loose on anyone who donates in a way they don't like. Fascists love the ability to target their enemies and this ruling is exactly what they want.

You mean like the Republicans who turned their brown shirts loose on unions who openly supported candidates with their money who supported....wait for it now...workers?

What is it you are so afraid of?

I mean being the upstanding an honest actor that you are.

Being the arbiter of righteousness, there should be no problem showing everyone who you're donating money to right?

Afraid of? Democrat brown shirts showing up at the homes of average Americans who donate to political candidates you asshat. In a normal time, people would be happy to tell who they donated to... but democrats are attacking Trump supporters, they shot several members of the Republican baseball team, they tried to assassinate Trump...

You shit stains are violent assholes who target people you don't agree with with violence......that is what Americans should be concerned about......

That you don't see the problem shows you are a dim bulb, or one of the vile assholes looking to punish people who disagree with you...

Mozilla CEO resignation raises free-speech issues

But Eich's abrupt departure has stirred the debate over the fairness of forcing out a highly qualified technology executive over his personal views and a single campaign contribution six years ago. And it raises questions about how far corporate leaders are allowed to go in expressing their political views.

 

[2aguy]

But, hey............let's protect the privacy of the movers and shakers.....

No.... let's protect the privacy of American citizens to support whoever they want for whatever reason they want, and not allow left wing/democrat brown shirts the ability to target them for political violence.....

 

[PoliticalChic]

How far behind can the demand to know who one votes for, be?
It's already online and considered public information..............


Come again?????

Yep. That is all kinds of jacked up, innit?

How far behind can the demand to know who one votes for, be?
It's already online and considered public information..............

Your post claims that my vote is public information.


That's nonsense.

Your vote, and millions of quid pro quo money donated to politicians, are two entirely different things.

That's a false equivalency.

Your vote is private.

Your million dollar donation check to candidate x, because you're hoping to count on his vote against allowing workers to organize his corporate workplace, or how much sulphur dioxide he's allowed to dump in the river behind the plant, is not.

Are you pretending not to recognize that the demand for donor lists is an attempt to chill donations to conservative groups?


If you don't recognize it, you'd have to be so dumb as to be unable to find your way back to the refrigerator box you call home.

If you do recognize it, and support it, you probably believe you look good in your brown shirt.

An attempt to chill conservative groups?

Followed by partisan insults and projection?

This is why the court made the ruling it did. To expose illegitimate actors such as yourself, who obviously have something to hide.

But thanks for admitting to the world it is "conservative groups" that are the ones hiding their faces from the light.

And for clarification, it was the Presidents voter fraud commission that was just repudiated as the fraud that it is, that was the ones who were exposing voters while attempting to illegally, and in a very unamerican way purge them from the voting rolls.

Sooo, you moron, do you have epaulets on your Brown Shirt?????




"Americans learned in the IRS political targeting scandal that government enforcement power can be used to stifle political speech. Something similar may be unfolding in Wisconsin, where a special prosecutor is targeting conservative groups that participated in the battle over Governor Scott Walker's union reforms.

In recent weeks, special prosecutor Francis Schmitz has hit dozens of conservative groups with subpoenas demanding documents related to the 2011 and 2012 campaigns to recall Governor Walker and state legislative leaders.

One subpoena also demands "all records of income received, including fundraising information and the identity of persons contributing to the corporation." In other words, tell us who your donors are.

The investigation is taking place under Wisconsin's John Doe law, which bars a subpoena's targets from disclosing its contents to anyone but his attorneys. John Doe probes work much like a grand jury, allowing prosecutors to issue subpoenas and conduct searches, while the gag orders leave the targets facing the resources of the state with no way to publicly defend themselves.


The subpoena demand for the names of donors to nonprofit groups that aren't legally required to disclose them is especially troubling. Readers may recall that the Cincinnati office of the IRS sent the tax-exempt applications of several conservative groups to the ProPublica news website in 2012.

... the effect is to limit political speech by intimidating these groups from participating in the 2014 campaign. Stifling allies of Mr. Walker would be an enormous in-kind contribution to Democrats. Even if no charges are filed, the subpoenas will have served as a form of speech suppression."
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304799404579155953286552832


Should I say 'have a nice day,' or do you prefer Sieg Heil?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

And THAT is why the KKK was organized,

And now things have changed, and they back republicans and especially Trump. They are even running for office as republicans, now.

 

[2aguy]

Does a district court judge really have the power to invalidate FEC regulations and part of a law that has been in effect for decades at the stroke of a pen? Something's fishy about the ruling. Shouldn't people have the right to remain anonymous as long as they conform to the law? Where was the judge when Al Gore was caught illegally soliciting political contributions from the freaking White House?

The left wing judges at the lower courts do not have this power..... they are taking it for themselves, knowing that now it has to go through the higher levels of the judiciary.... and if they are lucky, they will get left wingers to rule on their side at the higher levels... regardless of the Constitutionality of their ruling...

this is why the next elections are so important..... Trump is appointing real Judges and Justices ,but he needs a Republican Senate to confirm those judges..... and in reality, he needs to hold the HOuse....otherwise the democrats will impeach him immediately, and then leverage the impeachment to get weak Senate Republicans to not confirm his next 3 Supreme Court nominees...

 

[2aguy]

And THAT is why the KKK was organized,

And now things have changed, and they back republicans and especially Trump. They are even running for office as republicans, now.

Wrong, the democrats have been and still are the party of racists......

 

[2aguy]

Campaign spending needs to be limited. It is not in the interests of national security that so much can be spent and debate thus limited.

Moron, when you limit money, you limit debate..... since only the rich can self fund campaigns ...... you fascists never learn.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

And THAT is why the KKK was organized,

And now things have changed, and they back republicans and especially Trump. They are even running for office as republicans, now.

Wrong, the democrats have been and still are the party of racists......

nd nd the Klan amd other white supremacists groups support the Republicans, and especially like Trump, and their members who are running for office are running as repuicans.

 

[PoliticalChic]

And THAT is why the KKK was organized,

And now things have changed, and they back republicans and especially Trump. They are even running for office as republicans, now.

Nothing changed.


Let's review your party history:

1. The Democrats are, and have always been, the party of slavery, segregation, and second-class citizenship, the party that stood in schoolhouse doors to block black school children….until Republicans sent in the 101st airborne

2. It is the party of Jefferson Davis, the KKK, Planned Parenthood, concentration camps for American citizens, and restrictions on free speech.

3. It is the party of Mao ornaments on the White House Christmas tree, and of James Hodgkinson, and of Communist Bernie Sanders, of pretend genders.

4. The Democrat Party is the oldest racist organization in America, the trail of tears, the author of Jim Crow and the bigotry of low expectations, filibustered against women getting the vote and killed every anti-lynching bill to get to Congress

5. The Democrat Party is the number one funder of the Islamic Revolution in Tehran….to the tune of $100 billion to the Ayatollahs….and gave Hezbollah the go-ahead to sell cocaine in America.

6. It is the party of anti-Semitism and Louis Farrakhan, and of the first Cabinet member ever to be held in contempt of Congress.

7. It is the party that admits its future depends on flooding the country with illegal aliens, and telling them to vote.

8. It is the party that couldn't suck up to the Castro Brothers enough, and treats the Bill of Rights like a Chinese menu..

9. The Democrats got us into the Civil War…Jefferson Davis .... Woodrow Wilson, WWI….FDR, WWII……Truman, Korean War….VietNam, JFK and LBJ…..yet they want to weaken our military.

10. The Democrats are the party that looks at the mayhem their gun laws have produced in Chicago, ……and this is their model for the nation.

 

[2aguy]

And THAT is why the KKK was organized,

And now things have changed, and they back republicans and especially Trump. They are even running for office as republicans, now.

Wrong, the democrats have been and still are the party of racists......

nd nd the Klan amd other white supremacists groups support the Republicans, and especially like Trump, and their members who are running for office are running as repuicans.

obama sat in a racist church for 20 years.....

his best buds are farakhan and jeremiah wright.....he doesn't hide it.

The democrat party is the party of racism and hate, it always has been, always will be.... they can't survive without racism.

 

[PoliticalChic]

And THAT is why the KKK was organized,

And now things have changed, and they back republicans and especially Trump. They are even running for office as republicans, now.

Wrong, the democrats have been and still are the party of racists......

nd nd the Klan amd other white supremacists groups support the Republicans, and especially like Trump, and their members who are running for office are running as repuicans.

There's no such thing as 'white supremacists.'

It's one of those terms the Democrats use to fuel morons like you.

. The Left loves making up meaningless slurs....such as "....white supremacists"....playing on the fact that without the black vote, Democrats would never win a national election.

But....it's simply more 'fake news'.....



Neither being white, nor using the term 'white supremacists,' I looked up the term.


"a person who believes that the white race is inherently superior to other races and that white people should have control over people of other races"
Definition of WHITE SUPREMACIST



I really can't get too excited, nor see it as a pejorative, if any individual of any race sees his/her group as the very best, i.e., superior to any other group.


The proof that it is a made-up smear, a chimera....the usual strategy of the Left, is the secondary phrase in the definition..."and that white people should have control over people of other races"


Clearly this is totally bogus.

Fake news.

Or....let's see some examples of any American leaders, white, black, yellow....who demand "control over people of other races"


There are none.




QED....there is no such thing as "white supremacists."

Just one more lie by the the Lying Liberal Left.....but dolts buy it like it was on sale.

 

[Disir]

It's already online and considered public information..............

How far behind can the demand to know who one votes for, be?
It's already online and considered public information..............


Come again?????

Yep. That is all kinds of jacked up, innit?

How far behind can the demand to know who one votes for, be?
It's already online and considered public information..............

Your post claims that my vote is public information.


That's nonsense.

An individual's voting history is public record
Voter Registration & Privacy
Database configuration issues expose 191 million voter records

Frequently Asked Questions | VoterRecords.com

No, you dope......only IF you vote....not for whom you vote.



Jeeeeeezzzzzzzz.

• Name
• Street address
• Party affiliation
• Elections in which you did (or did not) vote
• Phone number
• Email address

And how can the data be used? While each state sets its own rules, voter data from every state is available for some uses. If you’ve noticed poll watchers at your polling place, you were seeing voter data in action, used by a campaign to keep track of who has and has not voted, to guide phone banks and other efforts to bring out the vote. Many states put no restrictions on use, so voter data may also be used for issue politics, charitable solicitation and commercial
Voter Data: What's Public, What's Private.

 

[Disir]

But, hey............let's protect the privacy of the movers and shakers.....

No.... let's protect the privacy of American citizens to support whoever they want for whatever reason they want, and not allow left wing/democrat brown shirts the ability to target them for political violence.....

Because data mining from the GOP is a marvelous thing......

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Nothing changed.

Of course, everything changed, going so far as to flip the party's platforms, over time.