Journalists irresponsible coverage of ISIS and EBOLA.

[bendog]

go whine to the dailykos.

you people had no problems with the coverage during Bush's terms and how they covered the Iraq war. you are out there making an ass of yourselves with protesting's while we had BOOTS on the ground. they had a daily body count not one of you condemned it. You need a crying towel or a box of tissues?

The Media was in bed with the invasion of Iraq from the very start of the propaganda push, through Shock and Awe, until the occupation went totally FUBAR and a civil war developed between three factions. They led the public down the primrose path parroting the WH talking points all the way.

In SOME cases, the MSM contributed to mis-informing the public, but more so it was the MSM telling their audience what they want to hear. And they were told we were avenging 9-11, and getting rid of a terror threat, both of which were lies told by the W administration, and the reason the sale was made was too few opposition party pols had the balls to stand up and call a lie a lie, e.g. see what happened to Dean - he was branded "unhinged" with a manipulated sound bite.

This latest episode will eventually turn out ok, imo, because the potus is for the refugee entry. Obama's a terrible communicator, and instead of taking the high ground on morality, and increasing the vetting of the refugees, he's arguing with bombastic aholes who are engaging in fear mongering and out right religious intolerance.

There will be another attack someday. Even Cheney was upfront about that. But, allowing 10K refugees in is not akin to the waves of undocumented refugees flooding into europe

 

[bendog]

ISIS can't win. But we can lose.

Amidst a week of fear over what the Islamic State can do, it's worth stopping to be clear about what it can't do. It can't invade Paris. It can't launch an air war against the United States. It can't even hold its ground — ISIS expert Will McCants estimates the group has lost between 20 and 25 percent of its territory in recent months.

The attack ISIS launched against Paris is a horror. But it should take nothing away from its tragedy to say more Americans have died from gun violence in seven days than died in the Paris attacks. That's not to downplay the threat of terrorism, but rather to highlight what makes it different: its capacity to terrorize.

"Terrorism is a crime against the mind," the security expert Bruce Schneier told me after the Boston Marathon bombing. "The message of terrorist attacks is you’re not safe and the government can’t protect you — that the existing power structure can’t protect you."

Fear makes people do stupid things, and it makes countries do stupid things, too. And it is fear that is ISIS's real weapon here.


ISIS can only succeed if we overreact — so we shouldn’t

Well, we should end the caliphate sooner. And we could by increasing special forces and even putting boots on the ground to secure a safe area for refugees. And, we should insist that Turkey seal it's border, and if they don't, we should cut off aid and do it for them.

 

[Kosh]

go whine to the dailykos.

you people had no problems with the coverage during Bush's terms and how they covered the Iraq war. you are out there making an ass of yourselves with protesting's while we had BOOTS on the ground. they had a daily body count not one of you condemned it. You need a crying towel or a box of tissues?

The Media was in bed with the invasion of Iraq from the very start of the propaganda push, through Shock and Awe, until the occupation went totally FUBAR and a civil war developed between three factions. They led the public down the primrose path parroting the WH talking points all the way.

In SOME cases, the MSM contributed to mis-informing the public, but more so it was the MSM telling their audience what they want to hear. And they were told we were avenging 9-11, and getting rid of a terror threat, both of which were lies told by the W administration, and the reason the sale was made was too few opposition party pols had the balls to stand up and call a lie a lie, e.g. see what happened to Dean - he was branded "unhinged" with a manipulated sound bite.

This latest episode will eventually turn out ok, imo, because the potus is for the refugee entry. Obama's a terrible communicator, and instead of taking the high ground on morality, and increasing the vetting of the refugees, he's arguing with bombastic aholes who are engaging in fear mongering and out right religious intolerance.

There will be another attack someday. Even Cheney was upfront about that. But, allowing 10K refugees in is not akin to the waves of undocumented refugees flooding into europe

See how the far left runs their religious programming without hesitation or question..

 

[bendog]

go whine to the dailykos.

you people had no problems with the coverage during Bush's terms and how they covered the Iraq war. you are out there making an ass of yourselves with protesting's while we had BOOTS on the ground. they had a daily body count not one of you condemned it. You need a crying towel or a box of tissues?

The Media was in bed with the invasion of Iraq from the very start of the propaganda push, through Shock and Awe, until the occupation went totally FUBAR and a civil war developed between three factions. They led the public down the primrose path parroting the WH talking points all the way.

In SOME cases, the MSM contributed to mis-informing the public, but more so it was the MSM telling their audience what they want to hear. And they were told we were avenging 9-11, and getting rid of a terror threat, both of which were lies told by the W administration, and the reason the sale was made was too few opposition party pols had the balls to stand up and call a lie a lie, e.g. see what happened to Dean - he was branded "unhinged" with a manipulated sound bite.

This latest episode will eventually turn out ok, imo, because the potus is for the refugee entry. Obama's a terrible communicator, and instead of taking the high ground on morality, and increasing the vetting of the refugees, he's arguing with bombastic aholes who are engaging in fear mongering and out right religious intolerance.

There will be another attack someday. Even Cheney was upfront about that. But, allowing 10K refugees in is not akin to the waves of undocumented refugees flooding into europe

See how the far left runs their religious programming without hesitation or question..

You are hearing imaginary voices in your head.

 

[BlindBoo]

go whine to the dailykos.

you people had no problems with the coverage during Bush's terms and how they covered the Iraq war. you are out there making an ass of yourselves with protesting's while we had BOOTS on the ground. they had a daily body count not one of you condemned it. You need a crying towel or a box of tissues?

The Media was in bed with the invasion of Iraq from the very start of the propaganda push, through Shock and Awe, until the occupation went totally FUBAR and a civil war developed between three factions. They led the public down the primrose path parroting the WH talking points all the way.

In SOME cases, the MSM contributed to mis-informing the public, but more so it was the MSM telling their audience what they want to hear. And they were told we were avenging 9-11, and getting rid of a terror threat, both of which were lies told by the W administration, and the reason the sale was made was too few opposition party pols had the balls to stand up and call a lie a lie, e.g. see what happened to Dean - he was branded "unhinged" with a manipulated sound bite.

This latest episode will eventually turn out ok, imo, because the potus is for the refugee entry. Obama's a terrible communicator, and instead of taking the high ground on morality, and increasing the vetting of the refugees, he's arguing with bombastic aholes who are engaging in fear mongering and out right religious intolerance.

There will be another attack someday. Even Cheney was upfront about that. But, allowing 10K refugees in is not akin to the waves of undocumented refugees flooding into europe

See how the far left runs their religious programming without hesitation or question..

See how they run........

 

[Kosh]

go whine to the dailykos.

you people had no problems with the coverage during Bush's terms and how they covered the Iraq war. you are out there making an ass of yourselves with protesting's while we had BOOTS on the ground. they had a daily body count not one of you condemned it. You need a crying towel or a box of tissues?

The Media was in bed with the invasion of Iraq from the very start of the propaganda push, through Shock and Awe, until the occupation went totally FUBAR and a civil war developed between three factions. They led the public down the primrose path parroting the WH talking points all the way.

In SOME cases, the MSM contributed to mis-informing the public, but more so it was the MSM telling their audience what they want to hear. And they were told we were avenging 9-11, and getting rid of a terror threat, both of which were lies told by the W administration, and the reason the sale was made was too few opposition party pols had the balls to stand up and call a lie a lie, e.g. see what happened to Dean - he was branded "unhinged" with a manipulated sound bite.

This latest episode will eventually turn out ok, imo, because the potus is for the refugee entry. Obama's a terrible communicator, and instead of taking the high ground on morality, and increasing the vetting of the refugees, he's arguing with bombastic aholes who are engaging in fear mongering and out right religious intolerance.

There will be another attack someday. Even Cheney was upfront about that. But, allowing 10K refugees in is not akin to the waves of undocumented refugees flooding into europe

See how the far left runs their religious programming without hesitation or question..

You are hearing imaginary voices in your head.

Then provide actual real proof of all your comments and not from far left blog sites..

Let see you do it far left drone..

 

[Kosh]

go whine to the dailykos.

you people had no problems with the coverage during Bush's terms and how they covered the Iraq war. you are out there making an ass of yourselves with protesting's while we had BOOTS on the ground. they had a daily body count not one of you condemned it. You need a crying towel or a box of tissues?

The Media was in bed with the invasion of Iraq from the very start of the propaganda push, through Shock and Awe, until the occupation went totally FUBAR and a civil war developed between three factions. They led the public down the primrose path parroting the WH talking points all the way.

In SOME cases, the MSM contributed to mis-informing the public, but more so it was the MSM telling their audience what they want to hear. And they were told we were avenging 9-11, and getting rid of a terror threat, both of which were lies told by the W administration, and the reason the sale was made was too few opposition party pols had the balls to stand up and call a lie a lie, e.g. see what happened to Dean - he was branded "unhinged" with a manipulated sound bite.

This latest episode will eventually turn out ok, imo, because the potus is for the refugee entry. Obama's a terrible communicator, and instead of taking the high ground on morality, and increasing the vetting of the refugees, he's arguing with bombastic aholes who are engaging in fear mongering and out right religious intolerance.

There will be another attack someday. Even Cheney was upfront about that. But, allowing 10K refugees in is not akin to the waves of undocumented refugees flooding into europe

See how the far left runs their religious programming without hesitation or question..

See how they run........

Yes the far left drones and their religious propaganda when met with reality..

 

[Sallow]

Islamic state of Iraq and Al-Sham which did not exist when Bush left office it's also a goddess from Egyptian mythology.

Actually they were basically gearing up after the Baathists were removed. But hey, don't let facts get in the way.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

yep, the scaredy cats are setting up the next Patriot Act, where we all are mandated to get a biometric id, or the chip in the hand, to ID ourselves....

Scaredy cats???

Have you relegated yourselves to using 4th grade insults now....

Wow

The French have increased the number of refugees they will allow

Cowardly Republicans hide under the bed

So the french have surrendered again....what a surprise.

 

[blackhawk]

Islamic state of Iraq and Al-Sham which did not exist when Bush left office it's also a goddess from Egyptian mythology.

Actually they were basically gearing up after the Baathists were removed. But hey, don't let facts get in the way.

Actually they didn't control any land or cites in Syria or Iraq or carry out any terrorist attacks overseas until well into Obamas Presidency dam pesky facts.

 

[Sallow]

Islamic state of Iraq and Al-Sham which did not exist when Bush left office it's also a goddess from Egyptian mythology.

Actually they were basically gearing up after the Baathists were removed. But hey, don't let facts get in the way.

Actually they didn't control any land or cites in Syria or Iraq or carry out any terrorist attacks overseas until well into Obamas Presidency dam pesky facts.

And how would have "staying there" avoided that?

The underlying cause is the fact that Western powers have turned the middle east into a bunch of client states for western exploitation. Most folks take umbrage when foreign powers are running their countries.

Here..let Ron Paul explain it for you.

 

[blackhawk]

Islamic state of Iraq and Al-Sham which did not exist when Bush left office it's also a goddess from Egyptian mythology.

Actually they were basically gearing up after the Baathists were removed. But hey, don't let facts get in the way.

Actually they didn't control any land or cites in Syria or Iraq or carry out any terrorist attacks overseas until well into Obamas Presidency dam pesky facts.

And how would have "staying there" avoided that?

The underlying cause is the fact that Western powers have turned the middle east into a bunch of client states for western exploitation. Most folks take umbrage when foreign powers are running their countries.

Here..let Ron Paul explain it for you.

We are moving into the speculation arena now however if a SOFA extension agreement could have been reached keeping 10 to 20 thousand U.S. troops there with heavy armor and air support I highly doubt ISIS would be in Iraq today. It seems likely they would have remained in Syria where they and Assad could bash the hell out of each other we will never know though.

 

[Sallow]

Islamic state of Iraq and Al-Sham which did not exist when Bush left office it's also a goddess from Egyptian mythology.

Actually they were basically gearing up after the Baathists were removed. But hey, don't let facts get in the way.

Actually they didn't control any land or cites in Syria or Iraq or carry out any terrorist attacks overseas until well into Obamas Presidency dam pesky facts.

And how would have "staying there" avoided that?

The underlying cause is the fact that Western powers have turned the middle east into a bunch of client states for western exploitation. Most folks take umbrage when foreign powers are running their countries.

Here..let Ron Paul explain it for you.

We are moving into the speculation arena now however if a SOFA extension agreement could have been reached keeping 10 to 20 thousand U.S. troops there with heavy armor and air support I highly doubt ISIS would be in Iraq today. It seems likely they would have remained in Syria where they and Assad could bash the hell out of each other we will never know though.

We are not moving into "speculation". These two men ACCURATELY predicted what would happen if the Baathists of Iraq were removed.




Polar ends of the political spectrum too.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

GOP mocks MSM = whining losers
Dem mocks MSM = Obama ass kissing

 

[BlueGin]

In both cases the threat has been conflated enormously and has led to panic while emboldening the irresponsible elements in American politics. The politics of fear generally lead to fascism. Hopefully the media begins to check itself before this gets too out of hand.

Must be why all of the hospitals had their employees go through mandatory Ebola training.

 

[Sallow]

In both cases the threat has been conflated enormously and has led to panic while emboldening the irresponsible elements in American politics. The politics of fear generally lead to fascism. Hopefully the media begins to check itself before this gets too out of hand.

Must be why all of the hospitals had their employees go through mandatory Ebola training.

Is it? Or is it that they mostly hospitals outside of red states keep up to date with CDC alerts and follow protocol.

Texas screwed the pooch. Mainly because they couldn't give a shit about their citizens.

 

[blackhawk]

Islamic state of Iraq and Al-Sham which did not exist when Bush left office it's also a goddess from Egyptian mythology.

Actually they were basically gearing up after the Baathists were removed. But hey, don't let facts get in the way.

Actually they didn't control any land or cites in Syria or Iraq or carry out any terrorist attacks overseas until well into Obamas Presidency dam pesky facts.

And how would have "staying there" avoided that?

The underlying cause is the fact that Western powers have turned the middle east into a bunch of client states for western exploitation. Most folks take umbrage when foreign powers are running their countries.

Here..let Ron Paul explain it for you.

We are moving into the speculation arena now however if a SOFA extension agreement could have been reached keeping 10 to 20 thousand U.S. troops there with heavy armor and air support I highly doubt ISIS would be in Iraq today. It seems likely they would have remained in Syria where they and Assad could bash the hell out of each other we will never know though.

We are not moving into "speculation". These two men ACCURATELY predicted what would happen if the Baathists of Iraq were removed.




Polar ends of the political spectrum too.

You are totally moving into speculation because because you have no idea how things would have turned if a SOFA agreement extension would have been reached. On the subject of accurately predicting things don't forget it was George Bush who predicted what would happen if we pulled our forces out of Iraq to soon when everyone was calling on him to do just that instead of the surge strategy.

 

[Sallow]

Actually they were basically gearing up after the Baathists were removed. But hey, don't let facts get in the way.

Actually they didn't control any land or cites in Syria or Iraq or carry out any terrorist attacks overseas until well into Obamas Presidency dam pesky facts.

And how would have "staying there" avoided that?

The underlying cause is the fact that Western powers have turned the middle east into a bunch of client states for western exploitation. Most folks take umbrage when foreign powers are running their countries.

Here..let Ron Paul explain it for you.

We are moving into the speculation arena now however if a SOFA extension agreement could have been reached keeping 10 to 20 thousand U.S. troops there with heavy armor and air support I highly doubt ISIS would be in Iraq today. It seems likely they would have remained in Syria where they and Assad could bash the hell out of each other we will never know though.

We are not moving into "speculation". These two men ACCURATELY predicted what would happen if the Baathists of Iraq were removed.




Polar ends of the political spectrum too.

You are totally moving into speculation because because you have no idea how things would have turned if a SOFA agreement extension would have been reached. On the subject of accurately predicting things don't forget it was George Bush who predicted what would happen if we pulled our forces out of Iraq to soon when everyone was calling on him to do just that instead of the surge strategy.

Not moving into speculation at all. The initial surge was "successful" for a couple of reasons. The first was that we moved in a crap load of troops. The second is that we started bribing Sunnis to stop fighting. We called them the "Sons of Iraq". There was still fighting by the way, but they calmed down on attacking US troops and were more interested in each other. This is after "Mission Accomplished" as well. Once the bribes stopped violence got worse and the Shia began rounding up and/or killing Sunnis. Some started leaving Iraq, by the way and causing trouble in other areas. All of this was a DIRECT result of the invasion and all forecasted by both Cheney and Sanders.

 

[BlueGin]

In both cases the threat has been conflated enormously and has led to panic while emboldening the irresponsible elements in American politics. The politics of fear generally lead to fascism. Hopefully the media begins to check itself before this gets too out of hand.

Must be why all of the hospitals had their employees go through mandatory Ebola training.

Is it? Or is it that they mostly hospitals outside of red states keep up to date with CDC alerts and follow protocol.

Texas screwed the pooch. Mainly because they couldn't give a shit about their citizens.

They don't have mandatory training for non issues genius.

 

[Sallow]

In both cases the threat has been conflated enormously and has led to panic while emboldening the irresponsible elements in American politics. The politics of fear generally lead to fascism. Hopefully the media begins to check itself before this gets too out of hand.

Must be why all of the hospitals had their employees go through mandatory Ebola training.

Is it? Or is it that they mostly hospitals outside of red states keep up to date with CDC alerts and follow protocol.

Texas screwed the pooch. Mainly because they couldn't give a shit about their citizens.

They don't have mandatory training for non issues genius.

Well NYC took it as an issue because we had hospitals that were ready to treat patients with the virus. Dallas? Not so much.