Jordan is Arab Palestine

[docmauser1]

I'm claiming that the whole human race can link itself to bonobos and chimpanzees likened to Ashkenazi Jews linking themselves to the Sephardim. I'm further saying that the Palestinians have a much stronger genetic link to the Canaanites, the true owners of this land (prior to it being stolen from them by Hebrew thieves), over that of troublemaking Ashkenazim-carpetbaggers.

Ah, so, palistanians are more chimpanzees than anyone else. Interesting.

 

[Phoenall]

Not agreed mate. Regardless, people in mandate Palestine lived in villages, owned property, had livelihoods. Just because of a flag or because there was not a sophisticated government does not give a free for all.

And had the same rights to free determination and a national home as the arab muslims, so why are you singling out the arab muslims as the only ones allowed to rule in Palestine ?

 

[Phoenall]

Jordan is Arab Palestine

“Why is it that on June 4th 1967 I was a Jordanian and overnight I became a Palestinian?”
“We did not particularly mind Jordanian rule. The teaching of the destruction of Israel was a definite part of the curriculum, but we considered ourselves Jordanian until the Jews returned to Jerusalem. Then all of the sudden we were Palestinians - they removed the star from the Jordanian flag and all at once we had a Palestinian flag”.
“When I finally realized the lies and myths I was taught, it is my duty as a righteous person to speak out”
- Former PLO Terrorist

"There are no differences between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. We are all part of one nation. It is only for political reasons that we carefully underline our Palestinian identity... yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity serves only tactical purposes. The founding of a Palestinian state is a new tool in the continuing battle against Israel".

- Zuhair Muhsin, military commander of the PLO and member of the PLO Executive Council -

And israelis occupied territory should be part of one greater Palestine as it was before 1938, where Muslim, Christian and jews lived for 900 years.

Does that include Israel itself that has been a sovereign nation since 1948 ?

 

[larsbar80]

Not agreed mate. Regardless, people in mandate Palestine lived in villages, owned property, had livelihoods. Just because of a flag or because there was not a sophisticated government does not give a free for all.

And had the same rights to free determination and a national home as the arab muslims, so why are you singling out the arab muslims as the only ones allowed to rule in Palestine ?

In which sentence did I say that?

 

[Challenger]

Jordan is Arab Palestine

“Why is it that on June 4th 1967 I was a Jordanian and overnight I became a Palestinian?”
“We did not particularly mind Jordanian rule. The teaching of the destruction of Israel was a definite part of the curriculum, but we considered ourselves Jordanian until the Jews returned to Jerusalem. Then all of the sudden we were Palestinians - they removed the star from the Jordanian flag and all at once we had a Palestinian flag”.
“When I finally realized the lies and myths I was taught, it is my duty as a righteous person to speak out”
- Former PLO Terrorist

"There are no differences between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. We are all part of one nation. It is only for political reasons that we carefully underline our Palestinian identity... yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity serves only tactical purposes. The founding of a Palestinian state is a new tool in the continuing battle against Israel".

- Zuhair Muhsin, military commander of the PLO and member of the PLO Executive Council -

Drivel.

 

[DriftingSand]

One day Utah wasn't a State and the next day it was. One day California wasn't a State and the next day it was. One day Israel wasn't a nation while the next day they declared that they were. One day Israel didn't have a national flag but the next day it did.

Rocket science? Nope!

 

[Humanity]

Problem with your theory is the term "Palestinian" was reserved only for JEWS of the region, up until the Arab invaders from neighboring Arab lands decided to hijack the name in the 60's

 

[Roudy]

Problem with your theory is the term "Palestinian" was reserved only for JEWS of the region, up until the Arab invaders from neighboring Arab lands decided to hijack the name in the 60's

When did the Arabs start calling themselves Palestinians?

The arabs who lived in Palestine "understood" they were "palestinians" only after the war of 1967. Before that, Judea and Samaria, together with Jerusalem, were occupied by Jordan, and Gaza was occupied by Egypt- but not a single arab thought of himself as of a "palestinian". Moreover, to call an arab a "Palestinian" would mean to insult him because until the late 60s the word "Palestinian " was commonly and unanimously associated in all the world with Jews, and all the world knew: Palestine is just another name for Israel, like for example Kemet was just another ancient name for Egypt. Arabs who lived in Palestine identified themselves as Arabs and were insulted when someone called them "palestinians": we are not Jews, we are Arabs, they used to say in answer.
And they had very good reasons to say this.
Do you know that until 1950, the name of the Jerusalem Post was THE PALESTINE POST?
That the journal of the Zionist Organization of America was NEW PALESTINE?
That the Bank Leumi was the ANGLO-PALESTINE BANK?
That the Israel Electric Company´s original name was the PALESTINE ELECTRIC COMPANY?
That there was the PALESTINE FOUNDATION FUND and the PALESTINE PHILHARMONIC?
And all these were JEWISH ORGANIZATIONS, organized and run by JEWS.
In America, the Anthem of the Zionist youngsters sang "PALESTINE, MY PALESTINE", "PALESTINE SCOUT SONG" and "PALESTINE SPRING SONG".

Arabs knew that the term "Palestinian" is the synonym of a "Jew", that is why they felt offended.

But after the war of 1967 the Arabs suddenly "recalled" they were "palestinians". The idea belonged to the PR experts of the Soviet KGB, the plan of the PR campaign and the ideological base were brilliantly prepared and elaborated in the Soviet Institute of the Oriental Studies whose director, Evgeniy Primakov, was the professional Intelligence officer who spoke very well in Arabic and had been working for many years in different Arabic countries under the "cover" of a journalist of the official Communist Party newspaper "Pravda". All the media of the Soviet satellite countries immediately started to weep over the "poor palestinians whose land was stolen by the cruel Jews". This idea about the "poor palestinians" was immediately supported by the leftist media in the West. After 3 years of the massive PR campaign, with the media crying about the "poor palestinians" and the Egyptian- born Yasser Arafat pronouncing the passionate speeches in the European universities, in the United Nations Assemblies and at the political meetings about how he ,
" a native palestinian", was robbed and humiliated by the "Khazar Jews", the appeared - from- nowhere "palestinian people" was firmly rooted in the brains of the people of the Western Europe. The fastness with which it all happened was also due to the fact that it was against the Jews; if the Soviets and Arabs had tried this trick with, let´s say, Spaniards and tried to tell to the world the stories about how "the cruel Spaniards robbed the native Andaluces of their land" , all the world would be laughing. But the Jews... Europeans have never been "in love" with them, and readily believed the story about the "poor palestinian people" who were driven from their land "by the Jews".
Israel did all it could to launch the counter PR campaign, but the balance of power was clearly not in Israel´s favour; one tiny Israel against all the media of the Soviet block supported by the crowds of the liberal leftists in the West; did Israel have any chances to win the propagandistic war?

And now we have Arabs who call themselves "palestinians" and weep over how "Jews stole their land" in Judea, and tell idiotic tales about how "Israelis robbed them of their land" in Israel.

 

[Roudy]

There is no such country as Palestine. 'Palestine' is a term the Zionists invented. There is no Palestine in the Bible. Our country was for centuries part of Syria. 'Palestine' is alien to us. It is the Zionists who introduced it".
- Auni Bey Abdul-Hadi, Syrian Arab leader to British Peel Commission, 1937 -

"There is no such thing as Palestine in history, absolutely not".
- Professor Philip Hitti, Arab historian, 1946 -

"It is common knowledge that Palestine is nothing but Southern Syria".
- Representant of Saudi Arabia at the United Nations, 1956 -

 

[Roudy]

Sorry I could not find the thread. For starters, your map is from Eli E Hertz which has been fabricated, talk about propaganda. The descriptions of the 1920 and 1922 maps are completely false. The League of Nations proclaimed a National home for the Jewish people within Palestine in 1922. It was not until 1948 that Palestine was partitioned.

Reeeeeally? Here are some more maps then.

 

[Humanity]

Problem with your theory is the term "Palestinian" was reserved only for JEWS of the region, up until the Arab invaders from neighboring Arab lands decided to hijack the name in the 60's

When did the Arabs start calling themselves Palestinians?

The arabs who lived in Palestine "understood" they were "palestinians" only after the war of 1967. Before that, Judea and Samaria, together with Jerusalem, were occupied by Jordan, and Gaza was occupied by Egypt- but not a single arab thought of himself as of a "palestinian". Moreover, to call an arab a "Palestinian" would mean to insult him because until the late 60s the word "Palestinian " was commonly and unanimously associated in all the world with Jews, and all the world knew: Palestine is just another name for Israel, like for example Kemet was just another ancient name for Egypt. Arabs who lived in Palestine identified themselves as Arabs and were insulted when someone called them "palestinians": we are not Jews, we are Arabs, they used to say in answer.
And they had very good reasons to say this.
Do you know that until 1950, the name of the Jerusalem Post was THE PALESTINE POST?
That the journal of the Zionist Organization of America was NEW PALESTINE?
That the Bank Leumi was the ANGLO-PALESTINE BANK?
That the Israel Electric Company´s original name was the PALESTINE ELECTRIC COMPANY?
That there was the PALESTINE FOUNDATION FUND and the PALESTINE PHILHARMONIC?
And all these were JEWISH ORGANIZATIONS, organized and run by JEWS.
In America, the Anthem of the Zionist youngsters sang "PALESTINE, MY PALESTINE", "PALESTINE SCOUT SONG" and "PALESTINE SPRING SONG".

Arabs knew that the term "Palestinian" is the synonym of a "Jew", that is why they felt offended.

But after the war of 1967 the Arabs suddenly "recalled" they were "palestinians". The idea belonged to the PR experts of the Soviet KGB, the plan of the PR campaign and the ideological base were brilliantly prepared and elaborated in the Soviet Institute of the Oriental Studies whose director, Evgeniy Primakov, was the professional Intelligence officer who spoke very well in Arabic and had been working for many years in different Arabic countries under the "cover" of a journalist of the official Communist Party newspaper "Pravda". All the media of the Soviet satellite countries immediately started to weep over the "poor palestinians whose land was stolen by the cruel Jews". This idea about the "poor palestinians" was immediately supported by the leftist media in the West. After 3 years of the massive PR campaign, with the media crying about the "poor palestinians" and the Egyptian- born Yasser Arafat pronouncing the passionate speeches in the European universities, in the United Nations Assemblies and at the political meetings about how he ,
" a native palestinian", was robbed and humiliated by the "Khazar Jews", the appeared - from- nowhere "palestinian people" was firmly rooted in the brains of the people of the Western Europe. The fastness with which it all happened was also due to the fact that it was against the Jews; if the Soviets and Arabs had tried this trick with, let´s say, Spaniards and tried to tell to the world the stories about how "the cruel Spaniards robbed the native Andaluces of their land" , all the world would be laughing. But the Jews... Europeans have never been "in love" with them, and readily believed the story about the "poor palestinian people" who were driven from their land "by the Jews".
Israel did all it could to launch the counter PR campaign, but the balance of power was clearly not in Israel´s favour; one tiny Israel against all the media of the Soviet block supported by the crowds of the liberal leftists in the West; did Israel have any chances to win the propagandistic war?

And now we have Arabs who call themselves "palestinians" and weep over how "Jews stole their land" in Judea, and tell idiotic tales about how "Israelis robbed them of their land" in Israel.

Poor try....

I would suggest that people DO read the link you posted, but scroll down past this load of BS and read what several other people wrote...

Talk about shooting yourself in the foot....

And, a two more links worth reading...

Timeline of the name Palestine - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
Palestinian people - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

 

[Phoenall]

Implied in your post

 

[Humanity]

There is no such country as Palestine. 'Palestine' is a term the Zionists invented. There is no Palestine in the Bible. Our country was for centuries part of Syria. 'Palestine' is alien to us. It is the Zionists who introduced it".
- Auni Bey Abdul-Hadi, Syrian Arab leader to British Peel Commission, 1937 -

"There is no such thing as Palestine in history, absolutely not".
- Professor Philip Hitti, Arab historian, 1946 -

"It is common knowledge that Palestine is nothing but Southern Syria".
- Representant of Saudi Arabia at the United Nations, 1956 -

Correct! Well done

An actual fact from the Rudeboy....

There is no such country as Palestine!

In the same way there was no such country as Israel....

Palestine is a region, those who live in the region are commonly known as "Palestinian"

 

[Phoenall]

One day Utah wasn't a State and the next day it was. One day California wasn't a State and the next day it was. One day Israel wasn't a nation while the next day they declared that they were. One day Israel didn't have a national flag but the next day it did.

Rocket science? Nope!

Chalk and cheese as the claim was one day the arab muslims in the west bank were Jordanian and the next they were stateless arab muslims using the term Palestinian. So when did Californians become people from Utah ?

 

[Phoenall]

Problem with your theory is the term "Palestinian" was reserved only for JEWS of the region, up until the Arab invaders from neighboring Arab lands decided to hijack the name in the 60's

How many more times do you need the same links, you just ignore them anyway.

 

[Humanity]

Problem with your theory is the term "Palestinian" was reserved only for JEWS of the region, up until the Arab invaders from neighboring Arab lands decided to hijack the name in the 60's

How many more times do you need the same links, you just ignore them anyway.

First time I've actually seen a link after asking for one!

Most of the time its just hot air and BS that cannot be supported by a link!

Old Lippy is very good at that one!

 

[Roudy]

Problem with your theory is the term "Palestinian" was reserved only for JEWS of the region, up until the Arab invaders from neighboring Arab lands decided to hijack the name in the 60's

When did the Arabs start calling themselves Palestinians?

The arabs who lived in Palestine "understood" they were "palestinians" only after the war of 1967. Before that, Judea and Samaria, together with Jerusalem, were occupied by Jordan, and Gaza was occupied by Egypt- but not a single arab thought of himself as of a "palestinian". Moreover, to call an arab a "Palestinian" would mean to insult him because until the late 60s the word "Palestinian " was commonly and unanimously associated in all the world with Jews, and all the world knew: Palestine is just another name for Israel, like for example Kemet was just another ancient name for Egypt. Arabs who lived in Palestine identified themselves as Arabs and were insulted when someone called them "palestinians": we are not Jews, we are Arabs, they used to say in answer.
And they had very good reasons to say this.
Do you know that until 1950, the name of the Jerusalem Post was THE PALESTINE POST?
That the journal of the Zionist Organization of America was NEW PALESTINE?
That the Bank Leumi was the ANGLO-PALESTINE BANK?
That the Israel Electric Company´s original name was the PALESTINE ELECTRIC COMPANY?
That there was the PALESTINE FOUNDATION FUND and the PALESTINE PHILHARMONIC?
And all these were JEWISH ORGANIZATIONS, organized and run by JEWS.
In America, the Anthem of the Zionist youngsters sang "PALESTINE, MY PALESTINE", "PALESTINE SCOUT SONG" and "PALESTINE SPRING SONG".

Arabs knew that the term "Palestinian" is the synonym of a "Jew", that is why they felt offended.

But after the war of 1967 the Arabs suddenly "recalled" they were "palestinians". The idea belonged to the PR experts of the Soviet KGB, the plan of the PR campaign and the ideological base were brilliantly prepared and elaborated in the Soviet Institute of the Oriental Studies whose director, Evgeniy Primakov, was the professional Intelligence officer who spoke very well in Arabic and had been working for many years in different Arabic countries under the "cover" of a journalist of the official Communist Party newspaper "Pravda". All the media of the Soviet satellite countries immediately started to weep over the "poor palestinians whose land was stolen by the cruel Jews". This idea about the "poor palestinians" was immediately supported by the leftist media in the West. After 3 years of the massive PR campaign, with the media crying about the "poor palestinians" and the Egyptian- born Yasser Arafat pronouncing the passionate speeches in the European universities, in the United Nations Assemblies and at the political meetings about how he ,
" a native palestinian", was robbed and humiliated by the "Khazar Jews", the appeared - from- nowhere "palestinian people" was firmly rooted in the brains of the people of the Western Europe. The fastness with which it all happened was also due to the fact that it was against the Jews; if the Soviets and Arabs had tried this trick with, let´s say, Spaniards and tried to tell to the world the stories about how "the cruel Spaniards robbed the native Andaluces of their land" , all the world would be laughing. But the Jews... Europeans have never been "in love" with them, and readily believed the story about the "poor palestinian people" who were driven from their land "by the Jews".
Israel did all it could to launch the counter PR campaign, but the balance of power was clearly not in Israel´s favour; one tiny Israel against all the media of the Soviet block supported by the crowds of the liberal leftists in the West; did Israel have any chances to win the propagandistic war?

And now we have Arabs who call themselves "palestinians" and weep over how "Jews stole their land" in Judea, and tell idiotic tales about how "Israelis robbed them of their land" in Israel.

Poor try....

I would suggest that people DO read the link you posted, but scroll down past this load of BS and read what several other people wrote...

Talk about shooting yourself in the foot....

And, a two more links worth reading...

Timeline of the name Palestine - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
Palestinian people - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

From your own link....oooops!

The history of a distinct Palestinian national identity is a disputed issue amongst scholars.[32] Legal historian Assaf Likhovski states that the prevailing view is that Palestinian identity originated in the early decades of the 20th century.[32] "Palestinian" was used to refer to the nationalist concept of a Palestinian people by the Arabs of Palestine in a limited way until World War I.[20][21] The first demand for national independence of the Levant was issued by the Syrian–Palestinian Congress on 21 September 1921.[33] After the creation of the State of Israel, the exodus of 1948, and more so after the exodus of 1967.

 

[Roudy]

There is no such country as Palestine. 'Palestine' is a term the Zionists invented. There is no Palestine in the Bible. Our country was for centuries part of Syria. 'Palestine' is alien to us. It is the Zionists who introduced it".
- Auni Bey Abdul-Hadi, Syrian Arab leader to British Peel Commission, 1937 -

"There is no such thing as Palestine in history, absolutely not".
- Professor Philip Hitti, Arab historian, 1946 -

"It is common knowledge that Palestine is nothing but Southern Syria".
- Representant of Saudi Arabia at the United Nations, 1956 -

Correct! Well done

An actual fact from the Rudeboy....

There is no such country as Palestine!

In the same way there was no such country as Israel....

Palestine is a region, those who live in the region are commonly known as "Palestinian"

Right. There has never been a country called Palestine. Palestine was the name the Romans gave to Israel.

The land belonged to the Ottomans for the last 700 years, which later fell to the Allies after WWI. From which the nation of Israel was reborn.

PalestineNevaWas.

 

[Humanity]

Problem with your theory is the term "Palestinian" was reserved only for JEWS of the region, up until the Arab invaders from neighboring Arab lands decided to hijack the name in the 60's

When did the Arabs start calling themselves Palestinians?

The arabs who lived in Palestine "understood" they were "palestinians" only after the war of 1967. Before that, Judea and Samaria, together with Jerusalem, were occupied by Jordan, and Gaza was occupied by Egypt- but not a single arab thought of himself as of a "palestinian". Moreover, to call an arab a "Palestinian" would mean to insult him because until the late 60s the word "Palestinian " was commonly and unanimously associated in all the world with Jews, and all the world knew: Palestine is just another name for Israel, like for example Kemet was just another ancient name for Egypt. Arabs who lived in Palestine identified themselves as Arabs and were insulted when someone called them "palestinians": we are not Jews, we are Arabs, they used to say in answer.
And they had very good reasons to say this.
Do you know that until 1950, the name of the Jerusalem Post was THE PALESTINE POST?
That the journal of the Zionist Organization of America was NEW PALESTINE?
That the Bank Leumi was the ANGLO-PALESTINE BANK?
That the Israel Electric Company´s original name was the PALESTINE ELECTRIC COMPANY?
That there was the PALESTINE FOUNDATION FUND and the PALESTINE PHILHARMONIC?
And all these were JEWISH ORGANIZATIONS, organized and run by JEWS.
In America, the Anthem of the Zionist youngsters sang "PALESTINE, MY PALESTINE", "PALESTINE SCOUT SONG" and "PALESTINE SPRING SONG".

Arabs knew that the term "Palestinian" is the synonym of a "Jew", that is why they felt offended.

But after the war of 1967 the Arabs suddenly "recalled" they were "palestinians". The idea belonged to the PR experts of the Soviet KGB, the plan of the PR campaign and the ideological base were brilliantly prepared and elaborated in the Soviet Institute of the Oriental Studies whose director, Evgeniy Primakov, was the professional Intelligence officer who spoke very well in Arabic and had been working for many years in different Arabic countries under the "cover" of a journalist of the official Communist Party newspaper "Pravda". All the media of the Soviet satellite countries immediately started to weep over the "poor palestinians whose land was stolen by the cruel Jews". This idea about the "poor palestinians" was immediately supported by the leftist media in the West. After 3 years of the massive PR campaign, with the media crying about the "poor palestinians" and the Egyptian- born Yasser Arafat pronouncing the passionate speeches in the European universities, in the United Nations Assemblies and at the political meetings about how he ,
" a native palestinian", was robbed and humiliated by the "Khazar Jews", the appeared - from- nowhere "palestinian people" was firmly rooted in the brains of the people of the Western Europe. The fastness with which it all happened was also due to the fact that it was against the Jews; if the Soviets and Arabs had tried this trick with, let´s say, Spaniards and tried to tell to the world the stories about how "the cruel Spaniards robbed the native Andaluces of their land" , all the world would be laughing. But the Jews... Europeans have never been "in love" with them, and readily believed the story about the "poor palestinian people" who were driven from their land "by the Jews".
Israel did all it could to launch the counter PR campaign, but the balance of power was clearly not in Israel´s favour; one tiny Israel against all the media of the Soviet block supported by the crowds of the liberal leftists in the West; did Israel have any chances to win the propagandistic war?

And now we have Arabs who call themselves "palestinians" and weep over how "Jews stole their land" in Judea, and tell idiotic tales about how "Israelis robbed them of their land" in Israel.

Poor try....

I would suggest that people DO read the link you posted, but scroll down past this load of BS and read what several other people wrote...

Talk about shooting yourself in the foot....

And, a two more links worth reading...

Timeline of the name Palestine - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
Palestinian people - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

From your own link....oooops!

The history of a distinct Palestinian national identity is a disputed issue amongst scholars.[32] Legal historian Assaf Likhovski states that the prevailing view is that Palestinian identity originated in the early decades of the 20th century.[32] "Palestinian" was used to refer to the nationalist concept of a Palestinian people by the Arabs of Palestine in a limited way until World War I.[20][21] The first demand for national independence of the Levant was issued by the Syrian–Palestinian Congress on 21 September 1921.[33] After the creation of the State of Israel, the exodus of 1948, and more so after the exodus of 1967.

I think the technical term rudeboy is...

"Selective Copy and Paste"

Yet another FAIL

 

[Roudy]

All this yippity yap and hollering by the Pali terrorist lovers still doesn't explain why you have two virtually identical flags of a Jordan and Palestine, with maps showing Jordan as Arab Palestine and quotes from Arab leaders at the time mocking the idea of an "Arab Palestine"

"Arab Palestine" = worlds greatest hoax ever perpetrated on humanity.