John Boehner and Republicans want YOU to pick up BP's Tab

[NYcarbineer]

[YUO = Moron

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Did you mean YUO = Moran?

 

[Mr. Shaman]

The porkulus is pure debt spending. That money doesn't exist either. BP should be paying for the mess they caused. The taxpayers shouldn't be paying a dime of it.

BP are paying for it.

But... that does not let the government off the hook for explaining where the $1.5bn is that they were supposed to have put aside for just this type of event. Let's not overlook the government's culpability in this whole debacle.

That money is GONE and unless you want to end up in the gulag you prolly best stop asking questions...........

Uhhhhhh.....that'd be "....you p-r-o-b-a-b-l-y best stop asking questions...."

(Dodged Summer School, did you? )​

 

[NYcarbineer]

We don't know that yet - and it's cold comfort to allow the damage to continue while the Feds standby holding the $1.5B they've collected in taxes for oil disaster relief.

That's not the American way. The American way is to scream hysterically and use media provided 'facts' to nail anyone as long as it isn't us. Boycott BP - never mind the FACT that by doing so, we don't hurt BP - we hurt individual Americans who bought franchises in good faith. Destroy the company - never mind that millions of Americans' pension funds own shares in BP.... along with hundreds of thousands of British pensioners. None of these people is responsible but don't let that stop us.... We may have once been a nation capable of rational thought - but no more.

And, let's not overlook the interesting, but not factually accurate, name..... Le'ts point out it's called British Petroleum - despite the FACT that it hasn't been called BRITISH Petroleum in years.... half it's board members are American, it employs about 10,000 people in Britain and 29,000 in America. It's a multi-national company. But that doesn't suit the Obama Administration, nor does it suit the MSM. So, let's brush over that little fact.

If Americans would THINK instead of getting their 'facts' from the media, we'd be a smarter country. But it takes effort - and Americans are lazy.

Where do you get your facts, if not from the media?

 

[Zona]

[YUO = Moron

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Did you mean YUO = Moran?

Oh the irony. Boedicca, just stop.

 

[hboats]

Uh...did you even bother to read this? He clearly said "BP and the Federal government".

Considering that the Feds have collected an 8 cent per barrel tax to cover the costs of oil spill disasters (for a cumulative amount to date of $1.5B) - why shouldn't the Feds spend some of the money collected to cover the costs of oil spills on an actual oil spill?

We have Already Picked Up The Tab - which the Feds are bogarting.

Yes, he said both parties except we have no responsibility for this mess. BP promised to pay the full amount, as they should. If corporations want to be counted as people, they should have the same responsibility as I would have if I caused a oil spill. The Federal Government wouldn't help me pick up the tab.

Funny, I don't recall liberals being outraged when WE bailed out General Motors or Chrysler. They got themselves into the mess they were in, and presto, the government uses OUR money to bail them out.

Rick

 

[Mr. Shaman]

The interesting part for me is the fact that the tax was collected and we HAD NO RESPONSE. The entire time I have heard that the government does not have the equipment or the expertise to contain the spill. Well, WHY THE FUCK NOT IF THERE HAS BEEN 1.5 BILLION COLLECTED FOR OIL SPILLS. Bullshit if you ask me. We should be there NOW cleaning up NOW and spending that money NOW. We can collect from BP later...

Yeah....just like Iraq oil-profits have compensated us for War-expenses.

 

[VaYank5150]

So, is BP paying for our US Coast Guard to be onsite, or does Boehner expect the US taxpayers to pay that too?

 

[Wry Catcher]

"Drill, baby drill"; the gulf oil spill is not the fault of environmentalists, liberals or progressives - though the fringers and their leaders (Limbaugh, Hannity, et al) would have us believe otherwise.
It's not the fault of Al Gore, or John Kerry; it's not Obama's fault or that of Ralph Nader. It's the fault of one person, BP.
BP is a person, you see, at least according to the USSC. If you or I polluted a local river or bay by negligence, we would be charged with a crime, Negligence; "a wrong characterized by the absence of a postive intent to inflict injury but from which injury nevertheless results" Haser v. Maryland Casualty Co.
Isn't it time to jail and fine those who benefit from the error of a clerk (Santa Clara Co. v. Southern Pacific RRrime.) but avoid the real world consequences of their actions?

 

[uscitizen]

Who would have thought Boner was a socialist?

 

[VaYank5150]

Who would have thought Boner was a socialist?

For whatever reason, the "conservatives" do not consider corporate welfare as socialism. Only when the government wants to help the little guy, do the cries of socislism appear, unless of course they are helping the little guy clean up a corporation's oil leak. Go figure.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Hey asshole....exactly where did the GOP say they want to bail out BP?

Do you know anything about the law? Are you aware that BP, by law, is only obligated to pay 75 million? A law spurned by the Valdez accident and signed into law by clinton several years later?

Unlike the Dems that want you to believe they can "kick ass" and make BP pay, the GOP is more practical in this situation saying "we better start cleaning up this mess before it has consequences we can not control"

Ah, yes......just like the GOP's mission-statement on the Environment; in-general.

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Issue an executive order, seize this company now, call it socialism, call it communism, call it stupidity , call it anything you want....

If BP has some major-problem, covering their liability-expenses, they can always sue their sub-contractors....like Halliburton.

It's called Capitalism.

(Gee....it almost makes you wonder why we haven't heard from The DICK; Cheney.)​

 

[Mr. Shaman]

We don't know that yet - and it's cold comfort to allow the damage to continue while the Feds standby holding the $1.5B they've collected in taxes for oil disaster relief.

That's not the American way. The American way is to scream hysterically and use media provided 'facts' to nail anyone as long as it isn't us. Boycott BP - never mind the FACT that by doing so, we don't hurt BP - we hurt individual Americans who bought franchises in good faith. Destroy the company - never mind that millions of Americans' pension funds own shares in BP.... along with hundreds of thousands of British pensioners. None of these people is responsible but don't let that stop us.... We may have once been a nation capable of rational thought - but no more.

And, let's not overlook the interesting, but not factually accurate, name..... Le'ts point out it's called British Petroleum - despite the FACT that it hasn't been called BRITISH Petroleum in years.... half it's board members are American, it employs about 10,000 people in Britain and 29,000 in America. It's a multi-national company. But that doesn't suit the Obama Administration, nor does it suit the MSM. So, let's brush over that little fact.

If Americans would THINK instead of getting their 'facts' from the media, we'd be a smarter country. But it takes effort - and Americans are lazy.

Where do you get your facts, if not from the media?

You're not serious.....right?

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyLcBc5RNf0]YouTube - Al Franken Should Shut Up[/ame]​

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Uh...did you even bother to read this? He clearly said "BP and the Federal government".

Considering that the Feds have collected an 8 cent per barrel tax to cover the costs of oil spill disasters (for a cumulative amount to date of $1.5B) - why shouldn't the Feds spend some of the money collected to cover the costs of oil spills on an actual oil spill?

We have Already Picked Up The Tab - which the Feds are bogarting.

Yes, he said both parties except we have no responsibility for this mess. BP promised to pay the full amount, as they should. If corporations want to be counted as people, they should have the same responsibility as I would have if I caused a oil spill. The Federal Government wouldn't help me pick up the tab.

Funny, I don't recall liberals being outraged when WE bailed out General Motors or Chrysler. They got themselves into the mess they were in, and presto, the government uses OUR money to bail them out.

Rick

In case you hadn't heard, neither General Motors nor Chrysler are British-owned.

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[Bfgrn]

What you are overlooking is this fact. The U.S. government is responsible to a degree....we gave BP the license and approved their drilling plan without an adequate back up plan for a disaster....hence...where we are today.

The government gave you a license to drive a vehicle, so if on the way to work after a late night at the tavern you plow into a group of schoolkids, the government should share the responsibility?

I knew this thread would be fertile ground to pick off pea brains...

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Who would have thought Boner was a socialist?

Boner is a man o' many-talents!​

February 3, 2006​

"He handed out checks from tobacco lobbyists on the House floor in 1995 while lawmakers were weighing tobacco subsidies. In 2004, he allowed Sallie Mae to throw him a fundraiser while the student lending outfit was lobbying his committee. And he is a frequent flier on trips paid for by special interests."

 

[NYcarbineer]

What you are overlooking is this fact. The U.S. government is responsible to a degree....we gave BP the license and approved their drilling plan without an adequate back up plan for a disaster....hence...where we are today.

The government gave you a license to drive a vehicle, so if on the way to work after a late night at the tavern you plow into a group of schoolkids, the government should share the responsibility?

I knew this thread would be fertile ground to pick off pea brains...

I honestly thought that one was too easy.

I guess we should have anticipated that eventually the wingnuts would all end up on the side of BP. This has a tradition in wingnutville going back decades; when Rush Limbaugh was just starting out on national radio, one of his first big stands was to take the side of EXXON in the Valdez spill.

These people are programmed to take BP's side; it's in their political genes.

 

[Cuyo]

Funny...I saw a discussion on the governments response to the whole oil disaster and guess what....Americans are by a large margin very disastisfied with the governments response. This is called "blowback". You left wing ass holes were so fond of that term...until you all became a victim of your own inherent stupidity. You all can bitch and complain, point fingers but the oil is still flowing into the Gulf.

Sorry Patek, this is not even close to the phenomenon called "Blowback."

 

[Bfgrn]

You're right...the feds should sit on their asses while the oil wipes out the coast and the economy in Florida.

No, the Feds cleans it up and sends BP the bill for the WHOLE THING. YOU FRIGIN REPUBLICANS ARE HILLARIOUS! But please do keep pushing the Tax Payer helping BP idea. It is a great political platform...idiots

Dense. Very Dense.

Who will do a better job cleaning your house...you or a house cleaner?

BP will do the bare minimum required by the government. CoC simply wants the best job done possible and the only way that will hapopen is with tax payer money.

But please, spin it all you want.

It makes you look silly.

So, now BIG government is the solution and the private sector is too inefficient and self serving?

 

[Bfgrn]

I still say Go For It! Yes, Tax Payers money needs to help bail BP out. It is the right call for the GOP.

I want to see a Poll on how many Americans will agree with that move.

Why bother with polls? If Boehner and the GOP faithful feel so strongly about this, I say they make it part of their 2010 platform!

Let's take it farther...conservatives always boast that they give more to charity than liberals, so let THEM pay for it. What better charity could these Monica Lewinsky's give to than their beloved plutocracy?

 

[PatekPhilippe]

Why should the Federal Government pay a dime?

It's a little-late to be asking that question.

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You stupid fuck....that credit card was cancelled in the last election!!!!