JIHAD is opposite of terrorism

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HAVE U READ ABOUT JIHAD IN COMPLETE SENSE

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    I m sick of hearing all the sick stuff of realting ISLAM,.....its preachings and specially the term "JIHAD" with Terrorism.
    not true at all. Islam means "PEACE". And for people with common sense
    it says it all.
    but for those who ...........r not.
    ISLAM is totally against terrorism by any means.
    I tell u what i'm not JUST trying to tell wt i think.
    I'm here talking about facts.

    1=islam doesn't allow killing
    (its 2nd biggest sin)
    2=islam doesn't allow suicide
    (again biggest sin)

    OUR PROPHET (MAY PEACE BE UPON HIM) strongly condemed the killing and hurting of any one by any means.And to tell you about JIHAD

    It is exactly wt most of us are doing.....its a fight against all evil.
    MEANS............

    1= LEARNING, GETTING KNOWLDGE ...and that is jihad against
    ill-literance, being barbarian.
    2= KKEPING URSELF TO UR WIVES, BEING FAITHFUL TO THEM, IS JIHAD TO UR OWN SELF TO PROTECT URSELF FROM GOING TO PROSTITUTES, OR CHEATING, OR HAVING SEX,DRUGS,ABUSE ,NOT BEING IN ALCOHLISM , HURTING OTHER PEOPLE,..............AND ALL THE BAD AND IMMORAL THINGS KNOWN TO MANKIND.

    JIHAD IS A SUCH A BIG SUBJECT, IT HAS BEEN TWISTED BY THOSE WHO WANT TO RELATE IT TO TERROSIM. EXCUSE ME ITS OPPOSITE OF TERRORISM.

    SO, TO MAKE LONG STORY SHORT. I DONT EVEN BELIEVE THOSE WHO ARE DOING TERRORISM ARE MUSLIMS.THIER NAMES COULD BE, THEY SAY THAY ARE......................................BUT ITS NOT WT ISLAM HAS TAUGHT THEM. HOW CAN ONE CLAIM TO BE A MUSLIM AND DO SOMETHING TOTALLY AGAINST PREACHINGS OF ISLAM.
    SO END RESULT IS BIG POWERS ARE MANIPULATING WITH COMMON PEOPLES MIND BY MAKING THEM THINK DIFFERENT STORY TO GET THIER ATTENTION. I WONT BE SURPRISED IF SOME DAY I WILL COME TO KNOW THERE WAS NO OSAMA BIN LADEN, OR IS A PRSON DEPLOYED BY US GOVERNEMNT ITSELF.
     
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    Can you explain why so many muslim women are beaten and tortured by their husbands then?

    Islam is against killing and it's the second biggest sin? Can you tell me what will likely happen to a muslim woman if she gets caught being unfaithful to her husband? What if she accuses someone of rape and doesn't have any witnesses and the accused is cleared of the charges, what happens to her then?
     
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    Just so you all know, I voted for jihad.

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    Excellent choice, I didn't see that one on the list though!
     
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    i'M GLAD U ASKED THIS QUESTION.
    WELL FOR eg IN AFGHANISTAN ,MEN OVER THIER DONT EVEN LET THIER WOMEN GO TO SCHOOL OR COLLEGE.BUT WTEVER THEY R DOING IS TOTALLY RUBBISH............COZ THEY R NOT LITERATE THEMSELVES ARE NOT POLISHED MORALY CORRECT PEOPLE WITH VIEW OF ISLAM. WE R TALKING ABOUT ISLAM, AND ISLAM DOESN'T ALLOW A HUSBAND TO TORTURE HIS WIFE.
    U R TALKING ABOUT UN FORTUNATE PEOPLE WHO ARE THOUGH MUSLIMS BUT THEY ARE NOT FOLLOWING ISLAM.

    IF A WOMAN HAS CHEATED HER HUSBAND, OUR PROPHET SAYS,
    BE GENTLE AND UNDERSTANDING TO HER AND GIVE HER A CHANCE NOT ONLY TO EXPLAIN BUT FORGIVE HER . AS FAR AS SHE CHEATED TO AN EXTENT OF SLEEPING WITH OTHER MEN IS CONCERNED SAME RULE APPLIES.
    AND NOT ONLY THIS, 4 WITNESSES ARE REQUIRED.EDUCATION IS VERY VITAL, AS OUR PROPHET SAID,"EDUCATION IS COMPULSORY FOR EVERY MUSLIM MAN AND WOMAN" AND THEN HE SAID
    "LEARN EVEN IF U HAVE TO GO TO FAR PLACES AS CHINA". IN OUR RELIGION

    1= IT IS ADVISED TO HUSBAND OR WIFE IN CASE OF eg CHEATING TO FIRST VERIFY IF ITS TRUE OR NOT

    2= THEN TRY TO TELL HER HOW IT IS BAD THING IN RELATIONS POLITELY OVER A LONG PERIOD OF TIME

    IF HE OR SHE DOESN'T STOP
    3= THEN DONT TALK TO HIM/HER

    IF HE OR SHE DOESN'T STOP
    4=THEN DONT SLEEP WITH HIM/HER

    IF HE OR SHE DOESN'T STOP
    5=THEN GET SEPARATED

    IF HE OR SHE DOESN'T STOP
    6=THEN TAKE DIVORCE

    WHILE FORGIVING,GIVING AS MANY CHANCES AND TIME U COULD.

    AND I HATE ALL THOSE PEOPLE WHO TORTURE THIER WIVES, COZ A TRUE MUSLIM ISN'T SUPPOSE TO DO ALL THIS.U KNW THE WHOLE PROBLEM IS WITH THEM BEING POOR ,ILL LETRATE PEOPLE WHO ARE BORN MUSLIMS BUT KNOW NOTHING ABOUT ANYTHING. ISLAM IS NOT BEING IMPLEMENTED OVER THERE. THEY ARE STUBBORN STUPID PEOPLE KNWING NOTHING
     
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    First - please turn off the caps lock key, your posts in all capital letters is annoying and a pin to read.

    I have another question - why are people afraid for their lives in Islam if they decide to leave the faith? Are they not free to choose a religion of their choice? Why would they fear for their lives over this?
     
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    I find it comical that Muslims will just turn their back on this data. They'll just disassociate these people from their lives. In fact, they'll disassociate themselves from every person that commits evil acts and claim they really aren't true muslims. What a set of blinders!

    In reference to muslim women at the receiving end of abuse

    "There are also many reasons why women do not leave their abusive husbands. The Muslim family is considered the “bedrock of society”. Islam deems the marriage relationship private. Some people do not think that abuse is of concern to anyone, but the couple. Women who leave their husbands are often considered “home wreckers.” The husband on the other hand, can still be a pillar of society. “While he may have terrorized his wife and offspring, he continues as an accepted member of the community—unhampered, unchallenged and unaccountable for his actions."

    There are probably more abused Muslim women unreported than their are reported!

    http://www.warnerpacific.edu/Person.../meganpaper.htm

    "Despite the growing numbers, domestic violence in Muslim communities is considered low or non-existent because it has gone unreported and undocumented, in addition to a lack of social service organizations (culturally and religiously sensitive) to address this particular problem." ... "Tragically, some Muslim men actually used Islam to “justify” their abusive behavior. Focusing on rituals, considering themselves to be Islamically knowledgeable, and disregarding the spirit of Islam, they wrongly used the Qur’anic verse that says men are the protectors and maintainers of women to go on power trips, demand total obedience and order their wives around. They disregard the Islamic requirements for the head of the household to consult with other members of the family when making decisions. Then, if their wives dare to speak up or question their orders, these men misinterpret a Qur’anic verse that talks about how to treat disobedient wife and use it as a license for abuse."

    http://www.iifhr.com/womens websi...icviolence.html

    "Wife abuse has hurt many Muslim women, destroyed many Muslim families, and weakened the entire Muslim community. How much longer can Muslims afford to look the other way?"

    "Based on information from Muslim leaders, social workers, and activists in North America, the North American Council for Muslim Women says that approximately 10 percent of Muslim women are abused emotionally, physically, and sexually by their Muslim husbands. (There are no hard numbers, because community leaders haven't taken the well-known problem seriously enough to research.)"

    http://www.domini.org/lam/wifeabusemuslimcomm.html

    http://www.islamicaweb.com/showthread/t-9956.html

    Straight from the Muslim Women's League:
    http://www.mwlusa.org/publications/...npapers/hk.html

    This is simply disgusting!
    http://www.answering-islam.org/Silas/wife-beating.htm

    How very sad:
    http://www.hraic.org/punishment_of_muslim_women.html

    Muslim women fighting for their rights:
    http://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/genislam.htm

    The oppressed women of Islam:
    http://www.islamfortoday.com/ummzaid06.htm
     
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    http://answering-islam.org.uk/Testimonies/

    Don't just view the main page, read the testimony from muslims and the lives they've had to endure after deciding to leave the islamic faith.

    Why would they be in fear of their lives?
     
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    well says who, our prophet MUHAMMED(may peace be upon him) , his uncle who brought him up.......as his parents died when he was very young was not muslim. he only became muslim few months before he died at very old age. he only choose himself to become muslim from all understanding. one thing is extremely vital, that Every one has right to choose themselve a religion they like. We are only supposed to (preach) & only (preach). all the friends of our prophet were not muslims but got converted to islam and they remained muslims even after our prophet died.Hinda was a lady who was non muslim, when they were in power she demanded her men to kill his uncle and bring his liver, and she ate it. but when islam came into power our prophet gave her forgiveness.
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    Did you even read what I wrote, or check the source I cited for you?

    Why do people fear for their lives should they choose to leave the islamic faith?
     

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