Jews and Democrats….Oil and Water

[PoliticalChic]

"Pelosi endorses jihad Jew-hating Rep. Omar for re-election
....Pelosi could have endorsed Omar’s much more moderate primary opponent Antone Melton-Meaux. She won’t do that. To Speaker Pelosi Jewish lives don’t matter. They never have. That is because no matter how badly the Democrat Party betray’s their Jewish voters, Speaker Pelosi could always count on them for their votes and obscene amounts of money. Shame on any Jewish American who supports the Democrat Party. #EXODUS! "

Pelosi endorses jihad Jew-hating Rep. Omar for re-election - Geller Report

Party of hate.

gellerreport.com

 

[PoliticalChic]

"Poll: Who views Israel as an ally - and who sees it as an enemy?
66% of Trump voters view Israel as America's ally - compared to just 24% of Biden voters, new poll finds.

Broken down by ideology and political alignment, 58% of Republicans and 58% of self-described conservatives said Israel is an ally, compared to 23% of self-described liberals (and the same percentage of Democrats) and 32% of moderates (and the same percentage of independents).

Nearly two-thirds (66%) of respondents who said they plan to vote for President Trump this November said Israel is an ally of the US, compared to just 24% of people who plan to vote for Joe Biden."

Poll: Who views Israel as an ally - and who sees it as an enemy?

66% of Trump voters view Israel as America's ally - compared to just 24% of Biden voters, new poll finds.

www.israelnationalnews.com

 

[LeftofLeft]

If you posted the support by Jews for Democrats up until about 30 years ago, it would make sense. Today, I just don’t get it.

 

[PoliticalChic]

If you posted the support by Jews for Democrats up until about 30 years ago, it would make sense. Today, I just don’t get it.

As with black folks, I will be interested in seeing the exit polls for Jewish folks, too, in November.

 

[Rigby5]

This is silly because no Jew can support Israel.
Israel clearly is illegally abusing the Palestinian natives.
It not only is illegally confiscating land, but violating their individual rights in every way possible.
European Jews do not even belong in the Mideast at all.
Traditional European Jewish food, like loxs and blintzes, just are not compatible with the Mideast.
I am of European Jewish ancestry, and you could never get me to go to the Mideast.
And Jews are not supposed to.
We are supposed to wait for the coming of the Messiah before expecting Zion.
Israelis are atheist heretics, and the greatest threat to Judaism that ever happened.

 

[PoliticalChic]

This is silly because no Jew can support Israel.
Israel clearly is illegally abusing the Palestinian natives.
It not only is illegally confiscating land, but violating their individual rights in every way possible.
European Jews do not even belong in the Mideast at all.
Traditional European Jewish food, like loxs and blintzes, just are not compatible with the Mideast.
I am of European Jewish ancestry, and you could never get me to go to the Mideast.
And Jews are not supposed to.
We are supposed to wait for the coming of the Messiah before expecting Zion.
Israelis are atheist heretics, and the greatest threat to Judaism that ever happened.

This may be the stupidest post of the day.

Congrats.

 

[Zorro!]

If you posted the support by Jews for Democrats up until about 30 years ago, it would make sense. Today, I just don’t get it.

Their Left-Wing politics comes before their commitment to Israel.

 

[irosie91]

If you posted the support by Jews for Democrats up until about 30 years ago, it would make sense. Today, I just don’t get it.

As with black folks, I will be interested in seeing the exit polls for Jewish folks, too, in November.

jews will still vote democrat----jews is stupid

 

[Rigby5]

This is silly because no Jew can support Israel.
Israel clearly is illegally abusing the Palestinian natives.
It not only is illegally confiscating land, but violating their individual rights in every way possible.
European Jews do not even belong in the Mideast at all.
Traditional European Jewish food, like loxs and blintzes, just are not compatible with the Mideast.
I am of European Jewish ancestry, and you could never get me to go to the Mideast.
And Jews are not supposed to.
We are supposed to wait for the coming of the Messiah before expecting Zion.
Israelis are atheist heretics, and the greatest threat to Judaism that ever happened.

This may be the stupidest post of the day.

Congrats.

I notice you could not come up with any actual counters to anything.
Israel is as racist, selfish, bigoted, unethical, and violent as any group that forced itself upon the majority has ever been.

 

[Rigby5]

If you posted the support by Jews for Democrats up until about 30 years ago, it would make sense. Today, I just don’t get it.

Their Left-Wing politics comes before their commitment to Israel.

Why should anyone have a "commitment" to Israel?
The law says the only controlling document is the Treaty of Sevres or the Treaty of San Remo, and both say there is no Israel, only an Arab Palestine.
That is because in 1920 when the fate of Palestine was being legally determined, the Jewish population was less than 5%, and they did not want any autonomy.
It is only illegal European immigrants later who wanted autonomy.

 

[Rigby5]

If you posted the support by Jews for Democrats up until about 30 years ago, it would make sense. Today, I just don’t get it.

As with black folks, I will be interested in seeing the exit polls for Jewish folks, too, in November.

jews will still vote democrat----jews is stupid

Jews are smart because they realize Zionism is heresy against Judaism.

 

[Zorro!]

If you posted the support by Jews for Democrats up until about 30 years ago, it would make sense. Today, I just don’t get it.

Their Left-Wing politics comes before their commitment to Israel.

Why should anyone have a "commitment" to Israel?...

The WORLD, through the UN, determined, after Hitler, that the Jewish People needed to reestablish their historic state in order to effectively defend themselves against those that would destroy the Jewish people for nothing more than being Jewish.

The law says the only controlling document is the Treaty of Sevres or the Treaty of San Remo, and both say there is no Israel, only an Arab Palestine...

Fake News, they say no such thing. They welcomed both Arabs and Jews to the area that is now Israel and Jordan. The intention was to, at some point, form two States from the Mandate, an Arab one and Jewish one, and we have, Syria and Israel.

 

[Rigby5]

If you posted the support by Jews for Democrats up until about 30 years ago, it would make sense. Today, I just don’t get it.

Their Left-Wing politics comes before their commitment to Israel.

Why should anyone have a "commitment" to Israel?...

The WORLD, through the UN, determined, after Hitler, that the Jewish People needed to reestablish their historic state in order to effectively defend themselves against those that would destroy the Jewish people for nothing more than being Jewish.

The law says the only controlling document is the Treaty of Sevres or the Treaty of San Remo, and both say there is no Israel, only an Arab Palestine...

Fake News, they say no such thing. They welcomed both Arabs and Jews to the area that is now Israel and Jordan. The intention was to, at some point, form two States from the Mandate, an Arab one and Jewish one, and we have, Syria and Israel.

That is just a lie.
The Jews in Palestine were less than 5% of the population until the late 1930s, and there has never been more than a 30% Jewish population in Palestine ever, even now. The 6 million Jews in Israel are still a vast minority compared to the 12 million Arabs in Palestine and Israel.
There is no known historic state for Jews, and certainly not in Palestine.
Jews likely were from the Sinai historically.
Nor is it ever a good ideal or legal to create a religious state.
The UN did not create Israel because they thought it was ethical, but because they saw it as a way of getting rid of Jews from their countries, and to make it easier to get lower oil prices from Mideast Arab countries, by selling them weapons.

Arabs and Jews were to be welcome to Palestine, but only under a quota system determined by the native Arabs, to prevent the very destabilization that happened due to millions of Jews illegally sneaking in.

The intention was most definitely NOT to have 2 states, but for only a single Arab state.
Jews promised to NEVER attempt to have any influence in the government of Palestine.
This was announced from the Carlsbad Zionist conferences.
The Balfour Declaration also disavowed any Jewish autonomy in Palestine.

https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/uploads/Documents/pubs/PalestinianAutonomySelfGovernmentandPeace.pdf.pdf

 

[Zorro!]

If you posted the support by Jews for Democrats up until about 30 years ago, it would make sense. Today, I just don’t get it.

Their Left-Wing politics comes before their commitment to Israel.

Why should anyone have a "commitment" to Israel?...

The WORLD, through the UN, determined, after Hitler, that the Jewish People needed to reestablish their historic state in order to effectively defend themselves against those that would destroy the Jewish people for nothing more than being Jewish.

The law says the only controlling document is the Treaty of Sevres or the Treaty of San Remo, and both say there is no Israel, only an Arab Palestine...

Fake News, they say no such thing. They welcomed both Arabs and Jews to the area that is now Israel and Jordan. The intention was to, at some point, form two States from the Mandate, an Arab one and Jewish one, and we have, Syria and Israel.

That is just a lie.

Fake News. The Balfour Declaration was a public statement issued by the British government in 1917 during the First World War announcing support for the establishment of a "national home for the Jewish people" in Palestine, then an Ottoman region.

...There is no known historic state for Jews...

Maybe not to you, but, it's well known in World History.

... Jews likely were from the Sinai historically...

Who knows? They were from somewhere prior to the 400 year captivity in Egypt, after which they traveled from Egypt to what was then known as Canaan. In fact, of the Canaanite dialects, Hebrew, is the only living descendant of that language group.

... Nor is it ever a good ideal or legal to create a religious state...

Fake News. It is not "illegal" to for Israel to exist as a Jewish state. Do you think it's "illegal" for Iran to exist as an Islamic Republic?

...The UN did not create Israel because they thought it was ethical, but because they saw it as a way of getting rid of Jews from their countries, and to make it easier to get lower oil prices from Mideast Arab countries, by selling them weapons...

You originally claimed that there was never envisioned a Jewish State. Now you are making an unsourced claim based on nothing that is apparent.

The UN General Assembly Resolution 181 was passed for three key reasons:

• Resolution 181 confirmed the 1922 recognition by the international community that the Jewish people deserve their own state, a Jewish state, in their historical homeland.
• The resolution called for the establishment of two states for two peoples - Jewish and Arab - between the Mediterranean and the Jordan River, each fulfilling the national aspirations of its respective populations. That formula remains Israel's position with regards to peace negotiations. Then as now, a Palestinian state can only be established through compromise and mutual recognition.
• The refusal by the Arab population of the mandate territory to accept Resolution 181 demonstrated that they were not interested in establishing their own state if it meant allowing the existence of a Jewish state. This opposition to acknowledging the right of a Jewish state to exist still lies at the core of the conflict.

...Arabs and Jews were to be welcome to Palestine, but only under a quota system determined by the native Arabs, to prevent the very destabilization that happened due to millions of Jews illegally sneaking in...

Fake News.

The Turkish empire controlled the Middle East for 6 centuries, but made the very bad mistake of choosing the wrong side in WWI and they got their asses kicked.

The Area of Israel and Transjordon (Now Jordan) was administered as one area under the Balfour Declaration.​

The intention was most definitely NOT to have 2 states, but for only a single Arab state...

Fake News. The Balfour Declaration announced support for the establishment of a "national home for the Jewish people" in Palestine.

...

Jews promised to NEVER attempt to have any influence in the government of Palestine...

There is no "government of Palestine." There has never been a nation of Palestine. There is now a Nation of Jordan and a Nation of Israel, with disputed territories that are the former holdings of an empire that no longer exists, as it was destroyed in WWI.

The Balfour Declaration also disavowed any Jewish autonomy in Palestine.

Reference the second sentence:

 

[Rigby5]

If you posted the support by Jews for Democrats up until about 30 years ago, it would make sense. Today, I just don’t get it.

Their Left-Wing politics comes before their commitment to Israel.

Why should anyone have a "commitment" to Israel?...

The WORLD, through the UN, determined, after Hitler, that the Jewish People needed to reestablish their historic state in order to effectively defend themselves against those that would destroy the Jewish people for nothing more than being Jewish.

The law says the only controlling document is the Treaty of Sevres or the Treaty of San Remo, and both say there is no Israel, only an Arab Palestine...

Fake News, they say no such thing. They welcomed both Arabs and Jews to the area that is now Israel and Jordan. The intention was to, at some point, form two States from the Mandate, an Arab one and Jewish one, and we have, Syria and Israel.

That is just a lie.

Fake News. The Balfour Declaration was a public statement issued by the British government in 1917 during the First World War announcing support for the establishment of a "national home for the Jewish people" in Palestine, then an Ottoman region.

...There is no known historic state for Jews...

Maybe not to you, but, it's well known in World History.

... Jews likely were from the Sinai historically...

Who knows? They were from somewhere prior to the 400 year captivity in Egypt, after which they traveled from Egypt to what was then known as Canaan. In fact, of the Canaanite dialects, Hebrew, is the only living descendant of that language group.

... Nor is it ever a good ideal or legal to create a religious state...

Fake News. It is not "illegal" to for Israel to exist as a Jewish state. Do you think it's "illegal" for Iran to exist as an Islamic Republic?

...The UN did not create Israel because they thought it was ethical, but because they saw it as a way of getting rid of Jews from their countries, and to make it easier to get lower oil prices from Mideast Arab countries, by selling them weapons...

You originally claimed that there was never envisioned a Jewish State. Now you are making an unsourced claim based on nothing that is apparent.

The UN General Assembly Resolution 181 was passed for three key reasons:

• Resolution 181 confirmed the 1922 recognition by the international community that the Jewish people deserve their own state, a Jewish state, in their historical homeland.
• The resolution called for the establishment of two states for two peoples - Jewish and Arab - between the Mediterranean and the Jordan River, each fulfilling the national aspirations of its respective populations. That formula remains Israel's position with regards to peace negotiations. Then as now, a Palestinian state can only be established through compromise and mutual recognition.
• The refusal by the Arab population of the mandate territory to accept Resolution 181 demonstrated that they were not interested in establishing their own state if it meant allowing the existence of a Jewish state. This opposition to acknowledging the right of a Jewish state to exist still lies at the core of the conflict.

...Arabs and Jews were to be welcome to Palestine, but only under a quota system determined by the native Arabs, to prevent the very destabilization that happened due to millions of Jews illegally sneaking in...

Fake News.

The Turkish empire controlled the Middle East for 6 centuries, but made the very bad mistake of choosing the wrong side in WWI and they got their asses kicked.

The Area of Israel and Transjordon (Now Jordan) was administered as one area under the Balfour Declaration.​

The intention was most definitely NOT to have 2 states, but for only a single Arab state...

Fake News. The Balfour Declaration announced support for the establishment of a "national home for the Jewish people" in Palestine.

...

Jews promised to NEVER attempt to have any influence in the government of Palestine...

There is no "government of Palestine." There has never been a nation of Palestine. There is now a Nation of Jordan and a Nation of Israel, with disputed territories that are the former holdings of an empire that no longer exists, as it was destroyed in WWI.

The Balfour Declaration also disavowed any Jewish autonomy in Palestine.

Reference the second sentence:

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Read more carefully.
The Balfour Declaration clearly says, "nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil or religious rights of the existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine".
So all the British were saying is that if Jews helped them liberate Palestine from the Ottoman Empire, that then England would look favorably to those who wished to emigrate to an Arab Palestine.
In no way can anyone interpret that to take Palestine from the 95% Arab natives.
And remember, the British had no right to Palestine either, so they could not give it to anyone.
It was the Arabs who helped liberate it, (Lawrence of Arabia), not Jews.

And NO, Jews were NEVER captives in Egypt.
They went there voluntarily due to some drought where ever they came from.
And we know it was not Palestine or anywhere near the Jordan river, as there was never any such drought there.
Obviously Jews left Egypt whenever they wanted to, and the Parting of the Red Sea is such a ridiculous myth that no one should believe it at all. The myth likely was perpetrated by the Hebrew leadership because they did not want anyone to think they had the option of returning to Egypt.

And Hebrew is NOT a Canaanite dialect. Almost all Mideast languages, like Canaanite, Hebrew, Sumerian, Aramaic, etc., are all from the original Arab language group. Hebrew is an Arab dialect. That is what the word "Semitic" means. It does NOT mean Jewish. It means of Arab origins.

Yes it is illegal for any state to claim to be religious because it would automatically discriminate against all other religions. And NO, Iran does NOT claim to be an Islamic state. The government of Iran is secular, with secular laws and with elections Jews participate in. Rights are equal. There is no religious discrimination in Iran, as there is in Israel. In fact, Iran has the third largest Jewish community in the world, after the US and Israel.

There is no question Israel is not supposed to exist according to the treaties after WWI.
But the UN did create Israel in 1945, by declaring a partition of Palestine.
However, Israel under that UN declaration does NOT include Jerusalem at all, nor any of the West Bank.

You clearly do NOT know what the Balfour Declaration is.
It is not any sort of legal document.
It was a request for aid by Lord Balfour, from the Jews and Arabs, in order to defeat the Ottoman empire, and in return promised to "look favorably" upon the liberation of Palestine as an independent nation.
The legal treaties that established what would happen to Palestine after the war, were the treaties of San Remo and Sevres.

The homeland for Jews in Palestine was not to have any autonomy at all, but to be under Arab leadership.
Don't believe me? Then read the Churchill Whitepaper of 1922 that was put out by the British government to clarify.

The Avalon Project : British White Paper of June 1922

{...

The tension which has prevailed from time to time in Palestine is mainly due to apprehensions, which are entertained both by sections of the Arab and by sections of the Jewish population. These apprehensions, so far as the Arabs are concerned are partly based upon exaggerated interpretations of the meaning of the [Balfour] Declaration favouring the establishment of a Jewish National Home in Palestine, made on behalf of His Majesty's Government on 2nd November, 1917.

Unauthorized statements have been made to the effect that the purpose in view is to create a wholly Jewish Palestine. Phrases have been used such as that Palestine is to become "as Jewish as England is English." His Majesty's Government regard any such expectation as impracticable and have no such aim in view. Nor have they at any time contemplated, as appears to be feared by the Arab deegation, the disappearance or the subordination of the Arabic population, language, or culture in Palestine. They would draw attention to the fact that the terms of the Declaration referred to do not contemplate that Palestine as a whole should be converted into a Jewish National Home, but that such a Home should be founded `in Palestine.' In this connection it has been observed with satisfaction that at a meeting of the Zionist Congress, the supreme governing body of the Zionist Organization, held at Carlsbad in September, 1921, a resolution was passed expressing as the official statement of Zionist aims "the determination of the Jewish people to live with the Arab people on terms of unity and mutual respect, and together with them to make the common home into a flourishing community, the upbuilding of which may assure to each of its peoples an undisturbed national development."

It is also necessary to point out that the Zionist Commission in Palestine, now termed the Palestine Zionist Executive, has not desired to possess, and does not possess, any share in the general administration of the country. Nor does the special position assigned to the Zionist Organization in Article IV of the Draft Mandate for Palestine imply any such functions. That special position relates to the measures to be taken in Palestine affecting the Jewish population, and contemplates that the organization may assist in the general development of the country, but does not entitle it to share in any degree in its government.

Further, it is contemplated that the status of all citizens of Palestine in the eyes of the law shall be Palestinian, and it has never been intended that they, or any section of them, should possess any other juridical status. So far as the Jewish population of Palestine are concerned it appears that some among them are apprehensive that His Majesty's Government may depart from the policy embodied in the Declaration of 1917. It is necessary, therefore, once more to affirm that these fears are unfounded, and that that Declaration, re affirmed by the Conference of the Principle Allied Powers at San Remo and again in the Treaty of Sevres, is not susceptible of change.
...}

You are right there may be no government of Palestine, but there certainly has been a Palestine as a nation since 1920, when it was created by treaty. It is Israel that is to be questioned, simply created out of thin air by the UN.
And the fact there may be no government of Palestine is totally due to illegal invasion and occupation by Israel.

 

[RealDave]

"Pelosi endorses jihad Jew-hating Rep. Omar for re-election
....Pelosi could have endorsed Omar’s much more moderate primary opponent Antone Melton-Meaux. She won’t do that. To Speaker Pelosi Jewish lives don’t matter. They never have. That is because no matter how badly the Democrat Party betray’s their Jewish voters, Speaker Pelosi could always count on them for their votes and obscene amounts of money. Shame on any Jewish American who supports the Democrat Party. #EXODUS! "

Pelosi endorses jihad Jew-hating Rep. Omar for re-election - Geller Report

Party of hate.

gellerreport.com

Republicans will support Israel as it leads us into another war.

We can support Israel without supporting Tump's buddy Nitwitandyahoo.

Isrsel hated our Iran nuclear agreementl because it wants us to defeat Iran in war. OMG we can't be at peace with Iran!!!!!!

 

[DustyInfinity]

It seems American Jews don't care about Israel. Not saying they should, but there seems to be a divide. That is the only way I can make sense of them supporting a party that chooses Iran and Hezbollah over Israel.

 

[PoliticalChic]

"Pelosi endorses jihad Jew-hating Rep. Omar for re-election
....Pelosi could have endorsed Omar’s much more moderate primary opponent Antone Melton-Meaux. She won’t do that. To Speaker Pelosi Jewish lives don’t matter. They never have. That is because no matter how badly the Democrat Party betray’s their Jewish voters, Speaker Pelosi could always count on them for their votes and obscene amounts of money. Shame on any Jewish American who supports the Democrat Party. #EXODUS! "

Pelosi endorses jihad Jew-hating Rep. Omar for re-election - Geller Report

Party of hate.

gellerreport.com

Republicans will support Israel as it leads us into another war.

We can support Israel without supporting Tump's buddy Nitwitandyahoo.

Isrsel hated our Iran nuclear agreementl because it wants us to defeat Iran in war. OMG we can't be at peace with Iran!!!!!!

Who doesn't want to 'defeat' the 7th century psychopaths of Iran....except for other psychopaths.
Raise your paw.

 

[Rigby5]

It seems American Jews don't care about Israel. Not saying they should, but there seems to be a divide. That is the only way I can make sense of them supporting a party that chooses Iran and Hezbollah over Israel.

The world is not binary.
You can support Israel and support Iran and Hezbollah to live independently.
The problem is right now, Netanyahu wants to destroy Palestine and steal the West Bank for illegal annexation into Israel. That can never be allowed in a civilized world. The problem is Netanyahu and Zionists who support theft, murder, and crime. Iran has not done anything remotely illegal and should then be respected. Netanyahu clearly is a criminal who needs to be arrested and prevented from committing more crimes.

 

[Rigby5]

"Pelosi endorses jihad Jew-hating Rep. Omar for re-election
....Pelosi could have endorsed Omar’s much more moderate primary opponent Antone Melton-Meaux. She won’t do that. To Speaker Pelosi Jewish lives don’t matter. They never have. That is because no matter how badly the Democrat Party betray’s their Jewish voters, Speaker Pelosi could always count on them for their votes and obscene amounts of money. Shame on any Jewish American who supports the Democrat Party. #EXODUS! "

Pelosi endorses jihad Jew-hating Rep. Omar for re-election - Geller Report

Party of hate.

gellerreport.com

Republicans will support Israel as it leads us into another war.

We can support Israel without supporting Tump's buddy Nitwitandyahoo.

Isrsel hated our Iran nuclear agreementl because it wants us to defeat Iran in war. OMG we can't be at peace with Iran!!!!!!

Who doesn't want to 'defeat' the 7th century psychopaths of Iran....except for other psychopaths.
Raise your paw.

One does not have to "like" the current administration of Iran, to recognize that each country has a right to self determination, and that it is illegal for the US to interfere in the internals of any other country, like Iran.

The problem with Israel however, is they ARE interfering with the internals of the sovereign nation of Palestine, which not only have existed as a region for over 5000 years, but has been a legal country since 1920.
Responsible people do have to do something about the crimes Israel is committing against the Palestinians.