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If something created the universe what makes you think that thing is a god? And how did you conclude it cares about us? Is there a heav
I guess the best way to answer your first question is to say that if we were created then there must be a creator. To our understanding that is God. Now the nature of God is something we can only guess about and that comes down to what we choose to believe about God. Some people see Him as strict and unyielding and some see Him as loving and forgiving. I think that is a personal decision that is based on how we choose to....well....kind of...."invent God". What I mean is that we usually see God in our own image and attribute the characteristics to Him that are comfortable for the individual. If only more theists were like you.
Nope, wrong again.I suspect its because atheists are irrational.......Why do Christians get mad at us athiests for calling bullshit on the entire new testament story but Jews seem to be so chummy with christians. Why is that? As an athiest I believe a man named Jesus may have lived 2015 years ago too.
What are the differences between what Jews and athiests believe about christianity?
The entire new testament is made up. Didn't happen. Jews are still waiting for the prophecy to happen. He hasn't come yet. No?
Just focus on the similarities between Jews and athiests. Forget the differences please. A christian can walk up to an athiest and Jew and both of us are not buying any of it.
So it really shouldnt offend christians when us athiests say exactly what a Jew believes.
We just have the balls to say it. And we dont have to worry about christians calling out our stories of god because we dont have any. I know this is why Jews just keep quiet about christianity because Jews told the original lies. The reasons they use against christianity could be used against their faith too. People think I pick on christians but honestly their stories are the most believable of all the unbelievable stories.
Also, christianity can't call bs on the Jewish faith because they are a spinoff.
I have seen more miracles than I can count, just this past week, God, Personally, gave me one.I love it how basically a lot of christians have said for some reason Jews get a free pass on doubting god sent his son.Why do Christians get mad at us athiests for calling bullshit on the entire new testament story but Jews seem to be so chummy with christians. Why is that? As an athiest I believe a man named Jesus may have lived 2015 years ago too.
What are the differences between what Jews and athiests believe about christianity?
The entire new testament is made up. Didn't happen. Jews are still waiting for the prophecy to happen. He hasn't come yet. No?
I don't think Christians have any problem with atheists at all. I know I don't. However, when atheists attack Christian beliefs, Christians will defend them. That's all. From my experience, I have never run into a Jew who attacked Christian faith. I am sure there are those that do, but I have never run into one. In my experience, Jews are perfectly happy to have discussions about the differences in belief and are quite tolerant of the differing points of view. Indeed, in my study, I have two friends who are Rabbis with whom I will contact when I have a question about Jewish belief, the Hebrew language, or such things and they are quite happy to discuss it knowing full well I am a Christian and will apply their input toward my Christian faith.
Most atheists are the same actually. They are too busy with their own lives to worry about what other people believe and generally don't care. But some can be quite militant and antagonistic and that is going to generate a response.
And have you seen next week on A.D. the bible continues Jesus' disciples went around performing miracles proving god exists to the yet unconverted. I'll convert too if a priest can cure my moms Alzheimer's. Why are we unlucky in the dice roll of time.
God apparently got involved all throughout history but disappeared 2000 years ago? Lol
I have seen more miracles than I can count, just this past week, God, Personally, gave me one.I love it how basically a lot of christians have said for some reason Jews get a free pass on doubting god sent his son.Why do Christians get mad at us athiests for calling bullshit on the entire new testament story but Jews seem to be so chummy with christians. Why is that? As an athiest I believe a man named Jesus may have lived 2015 years ago too.
What are the differences between what Jews and athiests believe about christianity?
The entire new testament is made up. Didn't happen. Jews are still waiting for the prophecy to happen. He hasn't come yet. No?
I don't think Christians have any problem with atheists at all. I know I don't. However, when atheists attack Christian beliefs, Christians will defend them. That's all. From my experience, I have never run into a Jew who attacked Christian faith. I am sure there are those that do, but I have never run into one. In my experience, Jews are perfectly happy to have discussions about the differences in belief and are quite tolerant of the differing points of view. Indeed, in my study, I have two friends who are Rabbis with whom I will contact when I have a question about Jewish belief, the Hebrew language, or such things and they are quite happy to discuss it knowing full well I am a Christian and will apply their input toward my Christian faith.
Most atheists are the same actually. They are too busy with their own lives to worry about what other people believe and generally don't care. But some can be quite militant and antagonistic and that is going to generate a response.
And have you seen next week on A.D. the bible continues Jesus' disciples went around performing miracles proving god exists to the yet unconverted. I'll convert too if a priest can cure my moms Alzheimer's. Why are we unlucky in the dice roll of time.
God apparently got involved all throughout history but disappeared 2000 years ago? Lol
God hasn't disappeared, people have just given up on seeking Him.
anyone who believed a crucified jew woke up from being dead is someone
you call a "Christian"??? ------ok ---that's you.
Actually it's called the Nicene Creed which is when Christianity was defined. Part of the definition is the belief in the resurrection of Jesus. Thus, the first person who believed in the resurrection could be argued to be the first Christian as it was defined by the First Council of Nicea
anyone who believed a crucified jew woke up from being dead is someone
you call a "Christian"??? ------ok ---that's you.
Actually it's called the Nicene Creed which is when Christianity was defined. Part of the definition is the belief in the resurrection of Jesus. Thus, the first person who believed in the resurrection could be argued to be the first Christian as it was defined by the First Council of Nicea
fine----as far as I know ----that thing came about circa 300 AD
Maybe you and I should start with something simple like "Simon Says" or "Find Your Foot"
Now I have to call this BS out. Most atheists were very religious themselves whether it was when they were an child/adolescent or adult. They had already seeked him and believed in him. Over the years the stories seemed like just stories, the validity of them disappeared and science and common sense had better explanations.I have seen more miracles than I can count, just this past week, God, Personally, gave me one.
God hasn't disappeared, people have just given up on seeking Him.
And is death a miracle too?Now I have to call this BS out. Most atheists were very religious themselves whether it was when they were an child/adolescent or adult. They had already seeked him and believed in him. Over the years the stories seemed like just stories, the validity of them disappeared and science and common sense had better explanations.I have seen more miracles than I can count, just this past week, God, Personally, gave me one.
God hasn't disappeared, people have just given up on seeking Him.
Also the term miracle is so open to interpretation. I have a friend that uses the term miracle for births. How can something that happens over a billion times a day be considered a miracle. (I included all life not just human)
And is death a miracle too?Now I have to call this BS out. Most atheists were very religious themselves whether it was when they were an child/adolescent or adult. They had already seeked him and believed in him. Over the years the stories seemed like just stories, the validity of them disappeared and science and common sense had better explanations.I have seen more miracles than I can count, just this past week, God, Personally, gave me one.
God hasn't disappeared, people have just given up on seeking Him.
Also the term miracle is so open to interpretation. I have a friend that uses the term miracle for births. How can something that happens over a billion times a day be considered a miracle. (I included all life not just human)
I like Jews...in fact, some of my best friends are Jews but we have to remember that they are a very small minority in this country and they are wielding entirely too much power for their small numbers. They seem to bring trouble onto themselves by being so vocal, so 'in your face'.I've never met an unfriendly Jew
I like Jews...in fact, some of my best friends are Jews but we have to remember that they are a very small minority in this country and they are wielding entirely too much power for their small numbers. They seem to bring trouble onto themselves by being so vocal, so 'in your face'.I've never met an unfriendly Jew
Why do Christians get mad at us athiests for calling bullshit on the entire new testament story but Jews seem to be so chummy with christians. Why is that? As an athiest I believe a man named Jesus may have lived 2015 years ago too.
What are the differences between what Jews and athiests believe about christianity?
The entire new testament is made up. Didn't happen. Jews are still waiting for the prophecy to happen. He hasn't come yet. No?
Why do Christians get mad at us athiests for calling bullshit on the entire new testament story but Jews seem to be so chummy with christians. Why is that? As an athiest I believe a man named Jesus may have lived 2015 years ago too.
What are the differences between what Jews and athiests believe about christianity?
it is silly to say that any of the ancient BIG TIME literature is
entirely "made-up" All is based on some actual reality. Always
remember this line "Heinrich, du bist ein Narr" << (spelling?) it's german for
"Heinrich---you are a fool" refers to Heinrich Schlieman who searched
for the TROY of the ODYSSEY ----and the guy found it---where it
is supposed to be according to Homer.
however, I do not believe a word of BEOWULF I do believe
Carl Sagan who was just as fanciful
The entire new testament is made up. Didn't happen. Jews are still waiting for the prophecy to happen. He hasn't come yet. No?
Archeology findings and Roman and Greek documents say you are wrong.
I feel the same way. Just because I dont believe in gods doesnt mean I dont want to leave the planet in better shape than I left it. Unfortunately we aren't doing such a good job of it but that's another conversation.You just proved one of the many examples I use when I say believing in god is not good for people. Your wife has been told smoking weed is evil? Do you see? And she's needlessly suffering? .
Hell yeah. I understand completely. I hope one of the many things people might take away from my posts is that God can contribute to a person's life and fulfill certain internal needs that they have, but religion can really fuck a person up. I see it happening with my lovely wife and I see it in so many aspects of society as a whole. This is why I post on these boards telling Christians to stop being so judgmental and allow people to walk their own path, and why I tell atheists to stop hammering people of faith simply because they choose to believe.
Simply because you, for example, choose not to believe doesn't mean I should not be a blessing to you to the degree I am able. That is your path to walk and whatever I can contribute to your life should not be dependent upon your choices and beliefs matching my own. I don't recall Jesus forcing people to listen to Him if they were not interested. He basically said 'oh ok, you don't want to hear this? Ok. Well good luck to you then and I hope it all works out for you'. I don't recall Jesus giving love only to those who agreed with Him. I seem to recall Him praying for those who were killing Him. So if I am to follow the example of Jesus, the love, comfort, companionship, friendship...whatever that I have to offer you should not be conditional upon your acceptance of my personal point of view. I think that is reasonable and I would go so far to suggest that offering such things to another where there are conditions attached are really worthless.
But conversely, simply because I believe, why should you reject a positive wish or a positive offering that may benefit your life or your understanding of life simply because it comes from a spiritual place? Surely you have the capacity to take a spiritual message that I (or anyone else) give and apply it to your life in a secular manner that still benefits you.
What it all comes down to is tolerance on all sides. There is nothing wrong in someone believing if it impacts their life in a positive way. What business do we have telling someone that they must go through life on our terms? Neither is their anything wrong with not believing if that is the path that one chooses to walk. I tend to believe that God knows our hearts and he knows if there is good in our hearts or bad in our hearts. I tend to give God enough credit to be able to figure out what we are as people and whether we contribute or detract from society. And if God doesn't exist...I guess it doesn't matter huh?
I think us athiests hammer theists because we believe its not good for man. Like I want to leave the planet a better place theists dont care because heaven awaits. Theists want to believe they will live forever. Athiests would like to believe the human species lives forever. How much do we donate to NASA and how much to church?
Why? What have I said that is upsetting?I like Jews...in fact, some of my best friends are Jews but we have to remember that they are a very small minority in this country and they are wielding entirely too much power for their small numbers. They seem to bring trouble onto themselves by being so vocal, so 'in your face'.I've never met an unfriendly Jew
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Nope, wrong again.I suspect its because atheists are irrational.......Why do Christians get mad at us athiests for calling bullshit on the entire new testament story but Jews seem to be so chummy with christians. Why is that? As an athiest I believe a man named Jesus may have lived 2015 years ago too.
What are the differences between what Jews and athiests believe about christianity?
The entire new testament is made up. Didn't happen. Jews are still waiting for the prophecy to happen. He hasn't come yet. No?
Just focus on the similarities between Jews and athiests. Forget the differences please. A christian can walk up to an athiest and Jew and both of us are not buying any of it.
So it really shouldnt offend christians when us athiests say exactly what a Jew believes.
We just have the balls to say it. And we dont have to worry about christians calling out our stories of god because we dont have any. I know this is why Jews just keep quiet about christianity because Jews told the original lies. The reasons they use against christianity could be used against their faith too. People think I pick on christians but honestly their stories are the most believable of all the unbelievable stories.
Also, christianity can't call bs on the Jewish faith because they are a spinoff.
Just because we believe in the Bible, doesn't mean we will follow the Jewish examples, or the examples of Muslims listed in the Bible.
Genesis 21:13I will make the son of the slave into a nation also, because he is your offspring.”
18Lift the boy up and take him by the hand, for I will make him into a great nation.”
The nation of Ishmael, first born son of Abraham, brother of Isaac.
Begs the question, which came first, the Hebrew or the Muslim?
Why? What have I said that is upsetting?I like Jews...in fact, some of my best friends are Jews but we have to remember that they are a very small minority in this country and they are wielding entirely too much power for their small numbers. They seem to bring trouble onto themselves by being so vocal, so 'in your face'.I've never met an unfriendly Jew
gotohell
Why? What have I said that is upsetting?I like Jews...in fact, some of my best friends are Jews but we have to remember that they are a very small minority in this country and they are wielding entirely too much power for their small numbers. They seem to bring trouble onto themselves by being so vocal, so 'in your face'.I've never met an unfriendly Jew
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