I've come to the conclusion that FDR was the best president this country ever had

[Camp]

BULLSHIT

FDR wanted to confiscate wealth and when SCOTUS refused it threatened to abolish the court.

The possible Constitutional crisis scared the justices so much that they caved into his demands.

Now fascism is our socioeconomic system, the Constitution (1787) has been abolished (James Clark McReynolds CENSORED dissenting opinion - Gold Clause Cases-


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Talking point nonsense. FDR never threatened to abolish the court. He proposed having the Congress support an age retirement clause instead a lifetime appointment and he suggested increasing the number of justices to serve on the court.

Fascism is not our socioeconomic system, and how is Reynolds dissenting opinion censored? It is contained right here under page 294 U.S. 362.

supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/294/330/case.html

I love these drama queens who screech "fascism" as if they know what they are talking about. Americans wouldn't know fascism if it walked up and slapped them across their Fox News brainwashed faces.

Lemming

I am humbled by your towering intellect and stinging response.

Socialism has never worked in the history of the planet

Are you implying that FDR was a socialist because he blended social programs into a free market capitalist system, the same way we do to this very day? Are you implying that the USA is a socialist country or do you just lack an understanding and education about socialism?

 

[Rustic]

Talking point nonsense. FDR never threatened to abolish the court. He proposed having the Congress support an age retirement clause instead a lifetime appointment and he suggested increasing the number of justices to serve on the court.

Fascism is not our socioeconomic system, and how is Reynolds dissenting opinion censored? It is contained right here under page 294 U.S. 362.

supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/294/330/case.html

I love these drama queens who screech "fascism" as if they know what they are talking about. Americans wouldn't know fascism if it walked up and slapped them across their Fox News brainwashed faces.

Lemming

I am humbled by your towering intellect and stinging response.

Socialism has never worked in the history of the planet

Are you implying that FDR was a socialist because he blended social programs into a free market capitalist system, the same way we do to this very day? Are you implying that the USA is a socialist country or do you just lack an understanding and education about socialism?

This country is far more socialist than not, because of these dumbass socialist programs... Lol

 

[ScienceRocks]

We're a far better country because of fdr's ideas then we were before him. Before him the poor would treated like shit and most of the country was poor.

 

[Rustic]

We're a far better country because of fdr's ideas then we were before him. Before him the poor would treated like shit and most of the country was poor.

He sucked ass...

 

[Camp]

I love these drama queens who screech "fascism" as if they know what they are talking about. Americans wouldn't know fascism if it walked up and slapped them across their Fox News brainwashed faces.

Lemming

I am humbled by your towering intellect and stinging response.

Socialism has never worked in the history of the planet

Are you implying that FDR was a socialist because he blended social programs into a free market capitalist system, the same way we do to this very day? Are you implying that the USA is a socialist country or do you just lack an understanding and education about socialism?

This country is far more socialist than not, because of these dumbass socialist programs... Lol

It sure does suck that for over 70 years hundreds of millions, generations, of Americans have had to be subjected to collecting Social Security in their old ages. And all those people have had to deal with having that darn electricity in Appalachia and the Northwest from all those government built dams and hydroelectric plants. Folks still have to get electricity from those darned dam projects FDR created during his administration.in the 1930's.

 

[Contumacious]

Hitler’s Mutual Admiration Society

Toland reminds us of the high esteem in which Hitler held President Roosevelt:

Hitler had genuine admiration for the decisive manner in which the President had taken over the reins of government. “I have sympathy for Mr. Roosevelt,” he told a correspondent of the New York Times two months later, “because he marches straight toward his objectives over Congress, lobbies and bureaucracy.” Hitler went on to note that he was the sole leader in Europe who expressed “understanding of the methods and motives of President Roosevelt.”

Hitler was not Roosevelt’s only admirer. Benito Mussolini, who had led Italy into fascism, an economic philosophy that called for government control over economic activity, including government-business partnerships, said that he admired FDR because he, like Mussolini, was a “social fascist.” As Srdja Trifkovic put it in his article “FDR and Mussolini: A Tale of Two Fascists,”

What is the point you are attempting to make. The world was in search of new ways to govern and that created lots of experimentation Hitler and Mussolini both tried to make their efforts seem legitimate and rational by pointing towards similarities in programs and policies by the American President. However, unlike Hitler and Mussolini, FDR did not suspend elections, declare himself a total dictator, force everyone to swear allegiance to him, arrest and execute his political enemies, arrest and confiscate the wealth of huge numbers of his citizens, etc.

BULLSHIT

FDR wanted to confiscate wealth and when SCOTUS refused it threatened to abolish the court.

The possible Constitutional crisis scared the justices so much that they caved into his demands.

Now fascism is our socioeconomic system, the Constitution (1787) has been abolished (James Clark McReynolds CENSORED dissenting opinion - Gold Clause Cases-


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Talking point nonsense. FDR never threatened to abolish the court. He proposed having the Congress support an age retirement clause instead a lifetime appointment and he suggested increasing the number of justices to serve on the court.

Fascism is not our socioeconomic system, and how is Reynolds dissenting opinion censored? It is contained right here under page 294 U.S. 362.

supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/294/330/case.html

Bullshit

Roosevelt announces “court-packing” plan


On February 5, 1937, President Franklin Roosevelt announces a controversial plan to expand the Supreme Court to as many as 15 judges, allegedly to make it more efficient. Critics immediately charged that Roosevelt was trying to “pack” the court and thus neutralize Supreme Court justices hostile to his New Deal.

During the previous two years, the high court had struck down several key pieces of New Deal legislation on the grounds that the laws delegated an unconstitutional amount of authority to the executive branch and the federal government. Flushed with his landslide reelection in 1936, President Roosevelt issued a proposal in February 1937 to provide retirement at full pay for all members of the court over 70. If a justice refused to retire, an “assistant” with full voting rights was to be appointed, thus ensuring Roosevelt a liberal majority. Most Republicans and many Democrats in Congress opposed the so-called “court-packing” plan."


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So what, he proposed an increase in the size of the court. He did it in a legitimate, constitutional way and the congress rejected his proposal. The public was fully aware of his proposal. While it was rejected, it managed to persuade the justices to be more supportive of the New Deal cases that came before the court. The justices were not as quick to challenge some of his programs.

Justices are supposed to declare an act UNconstitutional if the power asserted by the government is not SPECIFICALLY ENUMERATED. - The president is not supposed to use COERCION

I fail to see how the cause of liberty and Constitutional Government is advanced by having fedgov exercise extra-constitutional powers.

Only someone retarded to the max will encourage that kind of behavior.


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[Camp]

What is the point you are attempting to make. The world was in search of new ways to govern and that created lots of experimentation Hitler and Mussolini both tried to make their efforts seem legitimate and rational by pointing towards similarities in programs and policies by the American President. However, unlike Hitler and Mussolini, FDR did not suspend elections, declare himself a total dictator, force everyone to swear allegiance to him, arrest and execute his political enemies, arrest and confiscate the wealth of huge numbers of his citizens, etc.

BULLSHIT

FDR wanted to confiscate wealth and when SCOTUS refused it threatened to abolish the court.

The possible Constitutional crisis scared the justices so much that they caved into his demands.

Now fascism is our socioeconomic system, the Constitution (1787) has been abolished (James Clark McReynolds CENSORED dissenting opinion - Gold Clause Cases-


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Talking point nonsense. FDR never threatened to abolish the court. He proposed having the Congress support an age retirement clause instead a lifetime appointment and he suggested increasing the number of justices to serve on the court.

Fascism is not our socioeconomic system, and how is Reynolds dissenting opinion censored? It is contained right here under page 294 U.S. 362.

supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/294/330/case.html

Bullshit

Roosevelt announces “court-packing” plan


On February 5, 1937, President Franklin Roosevelt announces a controversial plan to expand the Supreme Court to as many as 15 judges, allegedly to make it more efficient. Critics immediately charged that Roosevelt was trying to “pack” the court and thus neutralize Supreme Court justices hostile to his New Deal.

During the previous two years, the high court had struck down several key pieces of New Deal legislation on the grounds that the laws delegated an unconstitutional amount of authority to the executive branch and the federal government. Flushed with his landslide reelection in 1936, President Roosevelt issued a proposal in February 1937 to provide retirement at full pay for all members of the court over 70. If a justice refused to retire, an “assistant” with full voting rights was to be appointed, thus ensuring Roosevelt a liberal majority. Most Republicans and many Democrats in Congress opposed the so-called “court-packing” plan."


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So what, he proposed an increase in the size of the court. He did it in a legitimate, constitutional way and the congress rejected his proposal. The public was fully aware of his proposal. While it was rejected, it managed to persuade the justices to be more supportive of the New Deal cases that came before the court. The justices were not as quick to challenge some of his programs.

Justices are supposed to declare an act UNconstitutional if the power asserted by the government is not SPECIFICALLY ENUMERATED. - The president is not supposed to use COERCION

I fail to see how the cause of liberty and Constitutional Government is advanced by having fedgov exercise extra-constitutional powers.

Only someone retarded to the max will encourage that kind of behavior.


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Where does the concept that a President is not supposed to use coercion come from? Seems they have all always used coercion. Coercion is a routine tool used by politicians. Is this concept an opinion or something based on law?

 

[Unkotare]

Hitler’s Mutual Admiration Society

Toland reminds us of the high esteem in which Hitler held President Roosevelt:

Hitler had genuine admiration for the decisive manner in which the President had taken over the reins of government. “I have sympathy for Mr. Roosevelt,” he told a correspondent of the New York Times two months later, “because he marches straight toward his objectives over Congress, lobbies and bureaucracy.” Hitler went on to note that he was the sole leader in Europe who expressed “understanding of the methods and motives of President Roosevelt.”

Hitler was not Roosevelt’s only admirer. Benito Mussolini, who had led Italy into fascism, an economic philosophy that called for government control over economic activity, including government-business partnerships, said that he admired FDR because he, like Mussolini, was a “social fascist.” As Srdja Trifkovic put it in his article “FDR and Mussolini: A Tale of Two Fascists,”

What is the point you are attempting to make. The world was in search of new ways to govern and that created lots of experimentation Hitler and Mussolini both tried to make their efforts seem legitimate and rational by pointing towards similarities in programs and policies by the American President. However, unlike Hitler and Mussolini, FDR did not suspend elections, declare himself a total dictator, force everyone to swear allegiance to him, arrest and execute his political enemies, arrest and confiscate the wealth of huge numbers of his citizens, etc.

BULLSHIT

FDR wanted to confiscate wealth and when SCOTUS refused it threatened to abolish the court.

The possible Constitutional crisis scared the justices so much that they caved into his demands.

Now fascism is our socioeconomic system, the Constitution (1787) has been abolished (James Clark McReynolds CENSORED dissenting opinion - Gold Clause Cases-


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Talking point nonsense. FDR never threatened to abolish the court. He proposed having the Congress support an age retirement clause instead a lifetime appointment and he suggested increasing the number of justices to serve on the court.

Fascism is not our socioeconomic system, and how is Reynolds dissenting opinion censored? It is contained right here under page 294 U.S. 362.

supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/294/330/case.html

Bullshit

Roosevelt announces “court-packing” plan


On February 5, 1937, President Franklin Roosevelt announces a controversial plan to expand the Supreme Court to as many as 15 judges, allegedly to make it more efficient. Critics immediately charged that Roosevelt was trying to “pack” the court and thus neutralize Supreme Court justices hostile to his New Deal.

During the previous two years, the high court had struck down several key pieces of New Deal legislation on the grounds that the laws delegated an unconstitutional amount of authority to the executive branch and the federal government. Flushed with his landslide reelection in 1936, President Roosevelt issued a proposal in February 1937 to provide retirement at full pay for all members of the court over 70. If a justice refused to retire, an “assistant” with full voting rights was to be appointed, thus ensuring Roosevelt a liberal majority. Most Republicans and many Democrats in Congress opposed the so-called “court-packing” plan."


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So what, he proposed an increase in the size of the court. He did it in a legitimate, constitutional way and the congress rejected his proposal. The public was fully aware of his proposal. While it was rejected, it managed to persuade the justices to be more supportive of the New Deal cases that came before the court. The justices were not as quick to challenge some of his programs.

Shameless, nuthugging apologist.

 

[Markle]

Why do I say this???
Simple, he started 45 years of economic growth, centered government around helping the little guy, the middle class under him and the next 4 presidents that followed some of his ideas grew like a weed.

1. Biggest middle class on earth 30 years after the new deal!!!
2. Taking a country where the poor had very little and turning a lot of that into the middle class! This wouldn't change until Reagans bs polices shifted shit against the middle class in the 1980's! All one needs to understand is far more people worked for far more and the rich paid there taxes from the 30's through the 70's.
3. Best education system on earth from 1940's-1960's
4. America was number one in science and r&d spending. In most ways it was because of men like FDR!!! I seriously doubt the presidents before him could of done the same! They were too fucking worried wanting to stand around with their dick in their hands.
5. FDR regulated food, drug and pushed for better health for America...


One could argue that Reagan tried to pull us to pre-fdr ideas and it failed. Why the hell shouldn't we use what works???

You should do a little research on FDR. He sure as shit wasn't the best POTUS this country ever had. His bullshit extended the GD and the ONLY thing that got us out of it was WWII. He was a great war time leader but as a POTUS with no war he sucked.

Yeah, he sucked so bad he was elected four times in a row. That's some pretty serious sucking, or else he was doing something right.

But since you were probably 20 or 30 years old at the time, maybe you remember things better.

Yes, he was elected FOUR TIMES IN A ROW, dying in his first year of the fourth term.

You neglected to mention one "minor" detail". His FOUR TERMS, led IMMEDIATELY to the overwhelming passage of the 22nd Amendment putting term limits on Presidents. The public knew he was so bad they demanded that Presidents time in office have a limit.

FDR died April 12, 1945. The 22nd Amendment was approved by the necessary 2/3 vote in both the House and Senate and then is sent to the States for ratification. That was in March 1947. It was ratified by the required 3/4 of the states on February 27, 1951.

So FDR will remain in the history books as the only president elected four times in a row by a grateful American citizenry. I thank you, Democrats thank you and America thanks you.

They sure weren't grateful. He stretched out misery from six months to a year to over well over seven years. That's why the 22nd Amendment was passed so quickly. FDR pushed for unions and how has that worked out? Share with us what industries have flourished under union domination?

 

[Markle]

BULLSHIT

FDR wanted to confiscate wealth and when SCOTUS refused it threatened to abolish the court.

The possible Constitutional crisis scared the justices so much that they caved into his demands.

Now fascism is our socioeconomic system, the Constitution (1787) has been abolished (James Clark McReynolds CENSORED dissenting opinion - Gold Clause Cases-


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Talking point nonsense. FDR never threatened to abolish the court. He proposed having the Congress support an age retirement clause instead a lifetime appointment and he suggested increasing the number of justices to serve on the court.

Fascism is not our socioeconomic system, and how is Reynolds dissenting opinion censored? It is contained right here under page 294 U.S. 362.

supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/294/330/case.html

Bullshit

Roosevelt announces “court-packing” plan


On February 5, 1937, President Franklin Roosevelt announces a controversial plan to expand the Supreme Court to as many as 15 judges, allegedly to make it more efficient. Critics immediately charged that Roosevelt was trying to “pack” the court and thus neutralize Supreme Court justices hostile to his New Deal.

During the previous two years, the high court had struck down several key pieces of New Deal legislation on the grounds that the laws delegated an unconstitutional amount of authority to the executive branch and the federal government. Flushed with his landslide reelection in 1936, President Roosevelt issued a proposal in February 1937 to provide retirement at full pay for all members of the court over 70. If a justice refused to retire, an “assistant” with full voting rights was to be appointed, thus ensuring Roosevelt a liberal majority. Most Republicans and many Democrats in Congress opposed the so-called “court-packing” plan."


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So what, he proposed an increase in the size of the court. He did it in a legitimate, constitutional way and the congress rejected his proposal. The public was fully aware of his proposal. While it was rejected, it managed to persuade the justices to be more supportive of the New Deal cases that came before the court. The justices were not as quick to challenge some of his programs.

Justices are supposed to declare an act UNconstitutional if the power asserted by the government is not SPECIFICALLY ENUMERATED. - The president is not supposed to use COERCION

I fail to see how the cause of liberty and Constitutional Government is advanced by having fedgov exercise extra-constitutional powers.

Only someone retarded to the max will encourage that kind of behavior.


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Where does the concept that a President is not supposed to use coercion come from? Seems they have all always used coercion. Coercion is a routine tool used by politicians. Is this concept an opinion or something based on law?

 

[Markle]

Lame duck President Obama certainly has set a new level for coercing legislation with Obamacare. American voters did NOT want Obamacare but through bribery, payoffs and most likely blackmail, we got it shoved up our...throats anyway.

As we forecast, it is a massive boondoggle.

 

[Contumacious]

BULLSHIT

FDR wanted to confiscate wealth and when SCOTUS refused it threatened to abolish the court.

The possible Constitutional crisis scared the justices so much that they caved into his demands.

Now fascism is our socioeconomic system, the Constitution (1787) has been abolished (James Clark McReynolds CENSORED dissenting opinion - Gold Clause Cases-


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Talking point nonsense. FDR never threatened to abolish the court. He proposed having the Congress support an age retirement clause instead a lifetime appointment and he suggested increasing the number of justices to serve on the court.

Fascism is not our socioeconomic system, and how is Reynolds dissenting opinion censored? It is contained right here under page 294 U.S. 362.

supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/294/330/case.html

Bullshit

Roosevelt announces “court-packing” plan


On February 5, 1937, President Franklin Roosevelt announces a controversial plan to expand the Supreme Court to as many as 15 judges, allegedly to make it more efficient. Critics immediately charged that Roosevelt was trying to “pack” the court and thus neutralize Supreme Court justices hostile to his New Deal.

During the previous two years, the high court had struck down several key pieces of New Deal legislation on the grounds that the laws delegated an unconstitutional amount of authority to the executive branch and the federal government. Flushed with his landslide reelection in 1936, President Roosevelt issued a proposal in February 1937 to provide retirement at full pay for all members of the court over 70. If a justice refused to retire, an “assistant” with full voting rights was to be appointed, thus ensuring Roosevelt a liberal majority. Most Republicans and many Democrats in Congress opposed the so-called “court-packing” plan."


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So what, he proposed an increase in the size of the court. He did it in a legitimate, constitutional way and the congress rejected his proposal. The public was fully aware of his proposal. While it was rejected, it managed to persuade the justices to be more supportive of the New Deal cases that came before the court. The justices were not as quick to challenge some of his programs.

Justices are supposed to declare an act UNconstitutional if the power asserted by the government is not SPECIFICALLY ENUMERATED. - The president is not supposed to use COERCION

I fail to see how the cause of liberty and Constitutional Government is advanced by having fedgov exercise extra-constitutional powers.

Only someone retarded to the max will encourage that kind of behavior.


.

Where does the concept that a President is not supposed to use coercion come from? Seems they have all always used coercion. Coercion is a routine tool used by politicians. Is this concept an opinion or something based on law?

Are we supposed to have three independent branches of government?

I can understand the Attorney General writing court briefs to support the executive branch's position - I can not understand the executive branch causing a constitutional crisis to get what it wants.

If every president get to force his/her henchmen into the SCOTUS then judicial review is dead.


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