CDZ Its rough, but I can compromise and outlaw most abortions.

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    Who says you must have a funeral...and since when has a funeral been what defines life? Where are you going with this argument. And if that is your argument, people have funerals all the time for miscarried babies.

    What's a better argument is when a pregnant women is killed, IT IS CONSIDERED A DOUBLE HOMICIDE. That women could have been on her way to get a scheduled abortion...still a double homicide, so your wrong there. If someone were to repeatedly stab a pregnant women in the stomach, and kills the baby, but the women survives...guess what, it is considered murder.

    And I don't think you understand biology. Chickens lay eggs weather or not those eggs are fertilized...I get all my eggs from my chickens, there is no rooster around, so they aren't fertilized eggs, so there's no "baby chickens"...it's a gamete cell. Not a separate life, only has half the chromosomes of a chicken. Just like when a women has her period...we don't call that a miscarriage when the egg passes, since it's a gamete cell passing, with only half the chromosomes of a human.
     
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    1st, Churches in general have done much political work on the subject. The big one seems like a PAC.

    2nd, aren't livest sacred and beautiful? Those voting against abortion believe so. Thus they have to act accordingly.
     
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    Even if the rooster cums on the egg you didn't kill a chicken
     
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    Abortion should be a state issue, not Federal.

    Either way the Fed's should not be involved.
     
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    Answered that one
     
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    And they do, christians are the biggest group for adoptions and foster care. And their private charitable organizations are much more effective at providing care for orphans worldwide than the USG is. but if abortion is wrong, shouldn't the people preforming the abortions be picking up the slack?
     
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    No. Never.

    No matter what, we must keep religion and government out of our most personal life decisions.

    And other people.

    There is nothing in the world that makes your decisions about your reproduction (or, assuming consenting adults, your sexuality) my business.

    Nothing could or should give me control over your life decisions.

    It is utterly bizarre and totally unreasonable that anyone could think otherwise.


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    “We must vote as a nation to see what the country believes.”

    No, we must not.

    Thankfully the United States is a Constitutional Republic and not a democracy, whose citizens are subject to the rule of law, not men – as men are incapable of ruling justly; efforts to violate the right to privacy and compel a woman to give birth against her will is proof of that.

    Otherwise, the thread premise is ignorant, ridiculous nonsense.
     
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    No.

    Those who do or have abortion are part of the answer.

    Same with birth control. Make birth control readily available and you would end poverty, hunger, illness.

    Religion an christians are, for the most part, the cause of many, if not all the world's problems. So called christians don't actually care about other human beings. They just want control over other people's lives. Get them out of our lives and there would be peace and prosperity around the world.


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    Incorrect.

    The states are subject to the Constitution and its case law, and may not enact measures contrary to Constitutional case law, such as laws that violate the right to privacy by ‘banning’ abortion.
     

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