CDZ I'm angry, most of us are - how do we bridge the divide and become one nation again?

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    is it even possible anymore?

    Thomas Jefferson said that the tree of liberty must be refreshed with the blood of Patriots and tyrants from time to time

    If I'm being honest, I'm almost there. Except I don't think we have a tyrant in charge, in fact, I'm THRILLED with our president.

    There are many people, some whom I respect immensely, that are 180 degrees from where I am politically, that feel the same way.

    14 years ago I won custody of a 13 month old baby girl & I was a small business owner starting out. Message boards became my social life & outlet - things are different now, I still have the girl and I still like message boards, but I'm in a better place.

    But I have NEVER been this angry and ready for a fight.

    Many of my friends on the left feel the same way.

    So, how do we fix this?

    OR are we at the point of no return?
     
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    I think all things go in cycles and this is a particularly nasty one. There is a lot of misinformation flying around that is fueling the fires of division. It is up to citizens to not take anything at face value. That does take work and therein lies the problem. America has become a sound byte, drive through, spare me the details nation. That's not good when it comes to politics especially when it has gotten this partisan.

    My wife had a party with her faculty and grad students at our house last month. I asked her "Do you want me there, seriously?" As you might imagine they are all anti-Trump, Hillary supporters. But it worked out, only because not one word of politics was uttered. To me that is sad because I love to discuss concepts and debate but you just can't do that today. I hope that changes.
     
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    What do you mean, if you mean the political divide or racial/ethnic divide?
     
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    Not worried about internal strife. Those who claim to be Angry return their elected representative about 90+% of the time. The #1 way a congressman/senator loses their job is retirement.

    In short, those who are "angry" are frankly too dumb to know what they are fighting for.
     
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    Get rid of all the liberals. Give them free tickets to any socialist country of their choice.
     
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    Political

    Where did you get racial from my OP?

    :dunno:
     
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    I see I dont "got it" just asked was unsure.
     
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    No offense candy, but you have not yet demonstrated an ability to banter politely with me or anyone on the right that I have seen

    I am not talking about voting patterns or the problems surrounding perpetual incumbancy - that problem persists in highly liberal areas just as much as it does in conservative enclaves

    I am asking if there is still enough common ground for liberal and consevative Americans to join together in harmony and with a commonality of purpose

    And if there is, where do we start?
     
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    Our Constitution, science, definitions and legal facts are just a few of the very important and relevant things that we all have in common. So, I generally try to focus my debates and arguments around those things.

    The libtardz still don't want any part of it.

    That is why I have so little respect for most of them and it's also why I show no mercy for them when it comes down to even the smallest points of contention.
     
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    People thought that more information would lead to more openness, people would know the truth because it would be louder than the lies. Politicians would be unable to hide things, and everything would be good.

    The opposite is true. They've taken the book from advertisers who realize that people are very good at being manipulated.

    So, how do you stop people being manipulated? You don't. It's impossible. So it depends all on the manipulators, and those are either red or blue, partisan politics and they'll rip the country open to remain in charge.
     
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