It's Official Now......Democrats Support Crime

[Godboy]

Showing Americans EXACTLY who these subversive members of Congress who YOUvoted in really care about....harvesting THE THUGS VOTES!!

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If Democrats were serious about using red flag laws to keep guns out if the hands of people who might use them to senselessly murder others and therefore are danger to society, and not just as a gun-control tool to disarm law-abiding citizens, then why did they kill an attempt to use compiled lists of known gang members, which many police departments and law enforcement agencies possess?

Why did they kill a measure to red flag gang members?

And if Beto O’Rourke is going to come and take our guns, particularly our AR-15s, is he going to start on the south side of Chicago? As the Washington Examiner noted on September 14:

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...

whats worse is the republicans support them,,,

Anyone calling for gun control should support it, dont you think?

well the republicans have always favored gun control which explains why they support it

Republicans havent favored gun control. That is a dem thing.

 

[rightwinger]

Democrats have no veto

That would be Trump

 

[progressive hunter]

Showing Americans EXACTLY who these subversive members of Congress who YOUvoted in really care about....harvesting THE THUGS VOTES!!

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If Democrats were serious about using red flag laws to keep guns out if the hands of people who might use them to senselessly murder others and therefore are danger to society, and not just as a gun-control tool to disarm law-abiding citizens, then why did they kill an attempt to use compiled lists of known gang members, which many police departments and law enforcement agencies possess?

Why did they kill a measure to red flag gang members?

And if Beto O’Rourke is going to come and take our guns, particularly our AR-15s, is he going to start on the south side of Chicago? As the Washington Examiner noted on September 14:

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...

whats worse is the republicans support them,,,

Anyone calling for gun control should support it, dont you think?

well the republicans have always favored gun control which explains why they support it

Republicans havent favored gun control. That is a dem thing.

then show me one gun control law the republicans have repealed or tried to repeal???

the fact is by not repealing any they have protected every gun control law in history

and thats not even getting into the red flag laws that the repubes are currently pushing,,,

 

[Godboy]

Showing Americans EXACTLY who these subversive members of Congress who YOUvoted in really care about....harvesting THE THUGS VOTES!!

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If Democrats were serious about using red flag laws to keep guns out if the hands of people who might use them to senselessly murder others and therefore are danger to society, and not just as a gun-control tool to disarm law-abiding citizens, then why did they kill an attempt to use compiled lists of known gang members, which many police departments and law enforcement agencies possess?

Why did they kill a measure to red flag gang members?

And if Beto O’Rourke is going to come and take our guns, particularly our AR-15s, is he going to start on the south side of Chicago? As the Washington Examiner noted on September 14:

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...

whats worse is the republicans support them,,,

Anyone calling for gun control should support it, dont you think?

well the republicans have always favored gun control which explains why they support it

Republicans havent favored gun control. That is a dem thing.

then show me one gun control law the republicans have repealed or tried to repeal???

the fact is by not repealing any they have protected every gun control law in history

and thats not even getting into the red flag laws that the repubes are currently pushing,,,

You said they "favored" gun control. You have yet to prove that claim.

 

[progressive hunter]

whats worse is the republicans support them,,,

Anyone calling for gun control should support it, dont you think?

well the republicans have always favored gun control which explains why they support it

Republicans havent favored gun control. That is a dem thing.

then show me one gun control law the republicans have repealed or tried to repeal???

the fact is by not repealing any they have protected every gun control law in history

and thats not even getting into the red flag laws that the repubes are currently pushing,,,

You said they "favored" gun control. You have yet to prove that claim.

well the fact that they have defended and supported every gun law on the books is a good place to start,,,wouldnt you say??

 

[Godboy]

Anyone calling for gun control should support it, dont you think?

well the republicans have always favored gun control which explains why they support it

Republicans havent favored gun control. That is a dem thing.

then show me one gun control law the republicans have repealed or tried to repeal???

the fact is by not repealing any they have protected every gun control law in history

and thats not even getting into the red flag laws that the repubes are currently pushing,,,

You said they "favored" gun control. You have yet to prove that claim.

well the fact that they have defended and supported every gun law on the books is a good place to start,,,wouldnt you say??

No, we fight against those things, generally. Of course, you already knew that.

 

[progressive hunter]

well the republicans have always favored gun control which explains why they support it

Republicans havent favored gun control. That is a dem thing.

then show me one gun control law the republicans have repealed or tried to repeal???

the fact is by not repealing any they have protected every gun control law in history

and thats not even getting into the red flag laws that the repubes are currently pushing,,,

You said they "favored" gun control. You have yet to prove that claim.

well the fact that they have defended and supported every gun law on the books is a good place to start,,,wouldnt you say??

No, we fight against those things, generally. Of course, you already knew that.

well based on your record of 100% failure I would say youre really bad at it,,,
or most likely a fucking liar,,,
because lets face it ,,actions speak louder than words

 

[airplanemechanic]

I don't support red flag laws for anyone with any label. Democrats finally did something right.

Red flag= NO DUE PROCESS

If they are that dangerous charge them with a crime, convict them in a court of law and remove their right to own a gun the right way. The LEGAL way.

 

[RealDave]

Democraps had a chance to vote FOR a Red-Flag law but instead chose to vote against it......to protect MS-13 Gang Members.

September 21, 2019
Dems Veto Red Flag Law for Gangbangers
By Daniel John Sobieski
If Democrats were serious about using red flag laws to keep guns out if the hands of people who might use them to senselessly murder others and therefore are danger to society, and not just as a gun-control tool to disarm law-abiding citizens, then why did they kill an attempt to use compiled lists of known gang members, which many police departments and law enforcement agencies possess? Why did they kill a measure to red flag gang members? And if Beto O’Rourke is going to come and take our guns, particularly our AR-15s, is he going to start on the south side of Chicago? As the Washington Examiner noted on September 14:

House Democrats this week advanced a new measure to encourage states to pass “red flag” laws, known as extreme risk protection orders, that authorize removing guns and ammunition from dangerous individuals.

Democrats on the House Judiciary Committee amended the measure during a Wednesday mark-up to authorize the federal government to issue extreme risk protection orders in some instances, but they rejected an amendment that would have red-flagged anyone who law enforcement lists as a gang member.

“The majority of violent crime, including gun violence, in the United States is linked to gangs,” Rep. Ken Buck, a Colorado Republican who sponsored the amendment, said Wednesday. “My amendment is quite simple. It would allow the issuance of a red flag order against anyone whose name appears in a gang database if there was probable cause to include that individual in the database.”

Dems like House Judiciary Chairman Jerry Nadler warned that people could be wrongly identified as gang members, just as people have been mistakenly put on no-fly lists. But identifying NRA members and law-abiding citizens exercising their constitutional right to keep and bear arms as killers-in-waiting are okay to Nadler, Swalwell, and O’Rourke. Yet, as Buck points out, urban police departments have a pretty good idea of who the gang members in their community are and are held to a high standard before officially listing them as member:

Buck pointed out his amendment requires law enforcement to limit red-flagging to only those with probable cause to be included on the list, which is a stricter criteria…

“Maybe you are just doodling because it is the 13th of June,” Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerry Nadler of New York said.

Buck said police have to meet a much higher threshold to list someone as a gang member.

“This is a situation where the police officers are trained, and there are very identifiable signs, and it isn't just one sign,” Buck told Nadler.

Chicago has the equivalent of a mass shooting every weekend, and just to put faces on those whom the Democrats want to exempt from red flag laws, consider that on last Tuesday two separate trials began in Chicago for known Chicago gang members Dwight Doty and Corey Morgan for the murder of nine-year-old Tyshawn Lee. As Fox News reported:

Two reputed Chicago gang members allegedly executed a 9-year-old boy in broad daylight because they sought revenge on the child’s father’s rival gang, which they blamed for gunning down family members, prosecutors said Tuesday.

Tyshawn Lee, 9, was in his school uniform when three men approached him in the South Side of Chicago in November 2015, prosecutors said during opening statements.

Prosecutors said Corey Morgan and Kevin Edwards kept watch while Dwight Doty lured the fourth grader into an alleyway. They said he promised him a juice box.

Doty then took out a .40-caliber handgun and shot Lee, Cook County Assistant State’s Attorney Margaret Hillmann said.

Two separate trials began for Morgan and Doty on Tuesday. The two alleged members of the Bang Gang/Terror Dome faction of the Black P Stones gang seek to pin the blame on each other for the child’s slaying, reports said.

No red flags for these guys.

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/09/dems_veto_red_flag_law_for_gangbangers.html​

Let me get this straight.

You want the government to raid the homes of gun owners & take their guns based on being on a list of likely gang members.

I think the NRA is a gang.

That’s because you’re a bigoted idiot.
List any murder perpetrated by the NRA.

The NRA fights efforts to keep guns out of the hands of mass shooters.

Charles Manson killed no one himself.

 

[progressive hunter]

Democraps had a chance to vote FOR a Red-Flag law but instead chose to vote against it......to protect MS-13 Gang Members.

September 21, 2019
Dems Veto Red Flag Law for Gangbangers
By Daniel John Sobieski
If Democrats were serious about using red flag laws to keep guns out if the hands of people who might use them to senselessly murder others and therefore are danger to society, and not just as a gun-control tool to disarm law-abiding citizens, then why did they kill an attempt to use compiled lists of known gang members, which many police departments and law enforcement agencies possess? Why did they kill a measure to red flag gang members? And if Beto O’Rourke is going to come and take our guns, particularly our AR-15s, is he going to start on the south side of Chicago? As the Washington Examiner noted on September 14:

House Democrats this week advanced a new measure to encourage states to pass “red flag” laws, known as extreme risk protection orders, that authorize removing guns and ammunition from dangerous individuals.

Democrats on the House Judiciary Committee amended the measure during a Wednesday mark-up to authorize the federal government to issue extreme risk protection orders in some instances, but they rejected an amendment that would have red-flagged anyone who law enforcement lists as a gang member.

“The majority of violent crime, including gun violence, in the United States is linked to gangs,” Rep. Ken Buck, a Colorado Republican who sponsored the amendment, said Wednesday. “My amendment is quite simple. It would allow the issuance of a red flag order against anyone whose name appears in a gang database if there was probable cause to include that individual in the database.”

Dems like House Judiciary Chairman Jerry Nadler warned that people could be wrongly identified as gang members, just as people have been mistakenly put on no-fly lists. But identifying NRA members and law-abiding citizens exercising their constitutional right to keep and bear arms as killers-in-waiting are okay to Nadler, Swalwell, and O’Rourke. Yet, as Buck points out, urban police departments have a pretty good idea of who the gang members in their community are and are held to a high standard before officially listing them as member:

Buck pointed out his amendment requires law enforcement to limit red-flagging to only those with probable cause to be included on the list, which is a stricter criteria…

“Maybe you are just doodling because it is the 13th of June,” Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerry Nadler of New York said.

Buck said police have to meet a much higher threshold to list someone as a gang member.

“This is a situation where the police officers are trained, and there are very identifiable signs, and it isn't just one sign,” Buck told Nadler.

Chicago has the equivalent of a mass shooting every weekend, and just to put faces on those whom the Democrats want to exempt from red flag laws, consider that on last Tuesday two separate trials began in Chicago for known Chicago gang members Dwight Doty and Corey Morgan for the murder of nine-year-old Tyshawn Lee. As Fox News reported:

Two reputed Chicago gang members allegedly executed a 9-year-old boy in broad daylight because they sought revenge on the child’s father’s rival gang, which they blamed for gunning down family members, prosecutors said Tuesday.

Tyshawn Lee, 9, was in his school uniform when three men approached him in the South Side of Chicago in November 2015, prosecutors said during opening statements.

Prosecutors said Corey Morgan and Kevin Edwards kept watch while Dwight Doty lured the fourth grader into an alleyway. They said he promised him a juice box.

Doty then took out a .40-caliber handgun and shot Lee, Cook County Assistant State’s Attorney Margaret Hillmann said.

Two separate trials began for Morgan and Doty on Tuesday. The two alleged members of the Bang Gang/Terror Dome faction of the Black P Stones gang seek to pin the blame on each other for the child’s slaying, reports said.

No red flags for these guys.

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/09/dems_veto_red_flag_law_for_gangbangers.html​

Let me get this straight.

You want the government to raid the homes of gun owners & take their guns based on being on a list of likely gang members.

I think the NRA is a gang.

That’s because you’re a bigoted idiot.
List any murder perpetrated by the NRA.

The NRA fights efforts to keep guns out of the hands of mass shooters.

Charles Manson killed no one himself.

name one??

 

[westwall]

Democraps had a chance to vote FOR a Red-Flag law but instead chose to vote against it......to protect MS-13 Gang Members.

September 21, 2019
Dems Veto Red Flag Law for Gangbangers
By Daniel John Sobieski
If Democrats were serious about using red flag laws to keep guns out if the hands of people who might use them to senselessly murder others and therefore are danger to society, and not just as a gun-control tool to disarm law-abiding citizens, then why did they kill an attempt to use compiled lists of known gang members, which many police departments and law enforcement agencies possess? Why did they kill a measure to red flag gang members? And if Beto O’Rourke is going to come and take our guns, particularly our AR-15s, is he going to start on the south side of Chicago? As the Washington Examiner noted on September 14:

House Democrats this week advanced a new measure to encourage states to pass “red flag” laws, known as extreme risk protection orders, that authorize removing guns and ammunition from dangerous individuals.

Democrats on the House Judiciary Committee amended the measure during a Wednesday mark-up to authorize the federal government to issue extreme risk protection orders in some instances, but they rejected an amendment that would have red-flagged anyone who law enforcement lists as a gang member.

“The majority of violent crime, including gun violence, in the United States is linked to gangs,” Rep. Ken Buck, a Colorado Republican who sponsored the amendment, said Wednesday. “My amendment is quite simple. It would allow the issuance of a red flag order against anyone whose name appears in a gang database if there was probable cause to include that individual in the database.”

Dems like House Judiciary Chairman Jerry Nadler warned that people could be wrongly identified as gang members, just as people have been mistakenly put on no-fly lists. But identifying NRA members and law-abiding citizens exercising their constitutional right to keep and bear arms as killers-in-waiting are okay to Nadler, Swalwell, and O’Rourke. Yet, as Buck points out, urban police departments have a pretty good idea of who the gang members in their community are and are held to a high standard before officially listing them as member:

Buck pointed out his amendment requires law enforcement to limit red-flagging to only those with probable cause to be included on the list, which is a stricter criteria…

“Maybe you are just doodling because it is the 13th of June,” Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerry Nadler of New York said.

Buck said police have to meet a much higher threshold to list someone as a gang member.

“This is a situation where the police officers are trained, and there are very identifiable signs, and it isn't just one sign,” Buck told Nadler.

Chicago has the equivalent of a mass shooting every weekend, and just to put faces on those whom the Democrats want to exempt from red flag laws, consider that on last Tuesday two separate trials began in Chicago for known Chicago gang members Dwight Doty and Corey Morgan for the murder of nine-year-old Tyshawn Lee. As Fox News reported:

Two reputed Chicago gang members allegedly executed a 9-year-old boy in broad daylight because they sought revenge on the child’s father’s rival gang, which they blamed for gunning down family members, prosecutors said Tuesday.

Tyshawn Lee, 9, was in his school uniform when three men approached him in the South Side of Chicago in November 2015, prosecutors said during opening statements.

Prosecutors said Corey Morgan and Kevin Edwards kept watch while Dwight Doty lured the fourth grader into an alleyway. They said he promised him a juice box.

Doty then took out a .40-caliber handgun and shot Lee, Cook County Assistant State’s Attorney Margaret Hillmann said.

Two separate trials began for Morgan and Doty on Tuesday. The two alleged members of the Bang Gang/Terror Dome faction of the Black P Stones gang seek to pin the blame on each other for the child’s slaying, reports said.

No red flags for these guys.

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/09/dems_veto_red_flag_law_for_gangbangers.html​

Let me get this straight.

You want the government to raid the homes of gun owners & take their guns based on being on a list of likely gang members.

I think the NRA is a gang.

Ummm, multiple felony arrests does not equate. Are you stupid, or just hyper partisan?

 

[RealDave]

I don't support red flag laws for anyone with any label. Democrats finally did something right.

Red flag= NO DUE PROCESS

If they are that dangerous charge them with a crime, convict them in a court of law and remove their right to own a gun the right way. The LEGAL way.

Red Flag laws basically recommend that certain people should not have a gun & it goes before a court. A court is due process.

 

[RealDave]

Democraps had a chance to vote FOR a Red-Flag law but instead chose to vote against it......to protect MS-13 Gang Members.

September 21, 2019
Dems Veto Red Flag Law for Gangbangers
By Daniel John Sobieski
If Democrats were serious about using red flag laws to keep guns out if the hands of people who might use them to senselessly murder others and therefore are danger to society, and not just as a gun-control tool to disarm law-abiding citizens, then why did they kill an attempt to use compiled lists of known gang members, which many police departments and law enforcement agencies possess? Why did they kill a measure to red flag gang members? And if Beto O’Rourke is going to come and take our guns, particularly our AR-15s, is he going to start on the south side of Chicago? As the Washington Examiner noted on September 14:

House Democrats this week advanced a new measure to encourage states to pass “red flag” laws, known as extreme risk protection orders, that authorize removing guns and ammunition from dangerous individuals.

Democrats on the House Judiciary Committee amended the measure during a Wednesday mark-up to authorize the federal government to issue extreme risk protection orders in some instances, but they rejected an amendment that would have red-flagged anyone who law enforcement lists as a gang member.

“The majority of violent crime, including gun violence, in the United States is linked to gangs,” Rep. Ken Buck, a Colorado Republican who sponsored the amendment, said Wednesday. “My amendment is quite simple. It would allow the issuance of a red flag order against anyone whose name appears in a gang database if there was probable cause to include that individual in the database.”

Dems like House Judiciary Chairman Jerry Nadler warned that people could be wrongly identified as gang members, just as people have been mistakenly put on no-fly lists. But identifying NRA members and law-abiding citizens exercising their constitutional right to keep and bear arms as killers-in-waiting are okay to Nadler, Swalwell, and O’Rourke. Yet, as Buck points out, urban police departments have a pretty good idea of who the gang members in their community are and are held to a high standard before officially listing them as member:

Buck pointed out his amendment requires law enforcement to limit red-flagging to only those with probable cause to be included on the list, which is a stricter criteria…

“Maybe you are just doodling because it is the 13th of June,” Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerry Nadler of New York said.

Buck said police have to meet a much higher threshold to list someone as a gang member.

“This is a situation where the police officers are trained, and there are very identifiable signs, and it isn't just one sign,” Buck told Nadler.

Chicago has the equivalent of a mass shooting every weekend, and just to put faces on those whom the Democrats want to exempt from red flag laws, consider that on last Tuesday two separate trials began in Chicago for known Chicago gang members Dwight Doty and Corey Morgan for the murder of nine-year-old Tyshawn Lee. As Fox News reported:

Two reputed Chicago gang members allegedly executed a 9-year-old boy in broad daylight because they sought revenge on the child’s father’s rival gang, which they blamed for gunning down family members, prosecutors said Tuesday.

Tyshawn Lee, 9, was in his school uniform when three men approached him in the South Side of Chicago in November 2015, prosecutors said during opening statements.

Prosecutors said Corey Morgan and Kevin Edwards kept watch while Dwight Doty lured the fourth grader into an alleyway. They said he promised him a juice box.

Doty then took out a .40-caliber handgun and shot Lee, Cook County Assistant State’s Attorney Margaret Hillmann said.

Two separate trials began for Morgan and Doty on Tuesday. The two alleged members of the Bang Gang/Terror Dome faction of the Black P Stones gang seek to pin the blame on each other for the child’s slaying, reports said.

No red flags for these guys.

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/09/dems_veto_red_flag_law_for_gangbangers.html​

Let me get this straight.

You want the government to raid the homes of gun owners & take their guns based on being on a list of likely gang members.

I think the NRA is a gang.

That’s because you’re a bigoted idiot.
List any murder perpetrated by the NRA.

The NRA fights efforts to keep guns out of the hands of mass shooters.

Charles Manson killed no one himself.

name one??

The effort to lengthen the amount of time or a background check to be completed for a gun purchase has been fought by the NRA. The effort to close loopholes fought by the NRA. Fighting any gun control measure by the NRA.

 

[Crepitus]

Meanwhile back in reality…

Trump supporters are running over people in cars
Trump supporters are routinely sponsoring civil war
Trump supporters are mailing bombs to people
Trump supporters are shooting up Wal*Marts, churches, etc…

I want you dems and repubes to keep showing what the other is doing so the world can see how pathetic the both of you are,,and then maybe we can banish the both of you into oblivion

The only one mentioning Dems/Reps are you and the OP. I was citing Trump supporters…..who crave violence and routinely commit terrorist acts.

so antifa is just a knitting group???

When was the last time you heard about an antifa shooting anyone?

 

[bluzman61]

Democraps had a chance to vote FOR a Red-Flag law but instead chose to vote against it......to protect MS-13 Gang Members.

September 21, 2019
Dems Veto Red Flag Law for Gangbangers
By Daniel John Sobieski
If Democrats were serious about using red flag laws to keep guns out if the hands of people who might use them to senselessly murder others and therefore are danger to society, and not just as a gun-control tool to disarm law-abiding citizens, then why did they kill an attempt to use compiled lists of known gang members, which many police departments and law enforcement agencies possess? Why did they kill a measure to red flag gang members? And if Beto O’Rourke is going to come and take our guns, particularly our AR-15s, is he going to start on the south side of Chicago? As the Washington Examiner noted on September 14:

House Democrats this week advanced a new measure to encourage states to pass “red flag” laws, known as extreme risk protection orders, that authorize removing guns and ammunition from dangerous individuals.

Democrats on the House Judiciary Committee amended the measure during a Wednesday mark-up to authorize the federal government to issue extreme risk protection orders in some instances, but they rejected an amendment that would have red-flagged anyone who law enforcement lists as a gang member.

“The majority of violent crime, including gun violence, in the United States is linked to gangs,” Rep. Ken Buck, a Colorado Republican who sponsored the amendment, said Wednesday. “My amendment is quite simple. It would allow the issuance of a red flag order against anyone whose name appears in a gang database if there was probable cause to include that individual in the database.”

Dems like House Judiciary Chairman Jerry Nadler warned that people could be wrongly identified as gang members, just as people have been mistakenly put on no-fly lists. But identifying NRA members and law-abiding citizens exercising their constitutional right to keep and bear arms as killers-in-waiting are okay to Nadler, Swalwell, and O’Rourke. Yet, as Buck points out, urban police departments have a pretty good idea of who the gang members in their community are and are held to a high standard before officially listing them as member:

Buck pointed out his amendment requires law enforcement to limit red-flagging to only those with probable cause to be included on the list, which is a stricter criteria…

“Maybe you are just doodling because it is the 13th of June,” Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerry Nadler of New York said.

Buck said police have to meet a much higher threshold to list someone as a gang member.

“This is a situation where the police officers are trained, and there are very identifiable signs, and it isn't just one sign,” Buck told Nadler.

Chicago has the equivalent of a mass shooting every weekend, and just to put faces on those whom the Democrats want to exempt from red flag laws, consider that on last Tuesday two separate trials began in Chicago for known Chicago gang members Dwight Doty and Corey Morgan for the murder of nine-year-old Tyshawn Lee. As Fox News reported:

Two reputed Chicago gang members allegedly executed a 9-year-old boy in broad daylight because they sought revenge on the child’s father’s rival gang, which they blamed for gunning down family members, prosecutors said Tuesday.

Tyshawn Lee, 9, was in his school uniform when three men approached him in the South Side of Chicago in November 2015, prosecutors said during opening statements.

Prosecutors said Corey Morgan and Kevin Edwards kept watch while Dwight Doty lured the fourth grader into an alleyway. They said he promised him a juice box.

Doty then took out a .40-caliber handgun and shot Lee, Cook County Assistant State’s Attorney Margaret Hillmann said.

Two separate trials began for Morgan and Doty on Tuesday. The two alleged members of the Bang Gang/Terror Dome faction of the Black P Stones gang seek to pin the blame on each other for the child’s slaying, reports said.

No red flags for these guys.

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/09/dems_veto_red_flag_law_for_gangbangers.html​

I would expect nothing less from the Dim Dems.

 

[Crepitus]

Democraps had a chance to vote FOR a Red-Flag law but instead chose to vote against it......to protect MS-13 Gang Members.

September 21, 2019
Dems Veto Red Flag Law for Gangbangers
By Daniel John Sobieski
If Democrats were serious about using red flag laws to keep guns out if the hands of people who might use them to senselessly murder others and therefore are danger to society, and not just as a gun-control tool to disarm law-abiding citizens, then why did they kill an attempt to use compiled lists of known gang members, which many police departments and law enforcement agencies possess? Why did they kill a measure to red flag gang members? And if Beto O’Rourke is going to come and take our guns, particularly our AR-15s, is he going to start on the south side of Chicago? As the Washington Examiner noted on September 14:

House Democrats this week advanced a new measure to encourage states to pass “red flag” laws, known as extreme risk protection orders, that authorize removing guns and ammunition from dangerous individuals.

Democrats on the House Judiciary Committee amended the measure during a Wednesday mark-up to authorize the federal government to issue extreme risk protection orders in some instances, but they rejected an amendment that would have red-flagged anyone who law enforcement lists as a gang member.

“The majority of violent crime, including gun violence, in the United States is linked to gangs,” Rep. Ken Buck, a Colorado Republican who sponsored the amendment, said Wednesday. “My amendment is quite simple. It would allow the issuance of a red flag order against anyone whose name appears in a gang database if there was probable cause to include that individual in the database.”

Dems like House Judiciary Chairman Jerry Nadler warned that people could be wrongly identified as gang members, just as people have been mistakenly put on no-fly lists. But identifying NRA members and law-abiding citizens exercising their constitutional right to keep and bear arms as killers-in-waiting are okay to Nadler, Swalwell, and O’Rourke. Yet, as Buck points out, urban police departments have a pretty good idea of who the gang members in their community are and are held to a high standard before officially listing them as member:

Buck pointed out his amendment requires law enforcement to limit red-flagging to only those with probable cause to be included on the list, which is a stricter criteria…

“Maybe you are just doodling because it is the 13th of June,” Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerry Nadler of New York said.

Buck said police have to meet a much higher threshold to list someone as a gang member.

“This is a situation where the police officers are trained, and there are very identifiable signs, and it isn't just one sign,” Buck told Nadler.

Chicago has the equivalent of a mass shooting every weekend, and just to put faces on those whom the Democrats want to exempt from red flag laws, consider that on last Tuesday two separate trials began in Chicago for known Chicago gang members Dwight Doty and Corey Morgan for the murder of nine-year-old Tyshawn Lee. As Fox News reported:

Two reputed Chicago gang members allegedly executed a 9-year-old boy in broad daylight because they sought revenge on the child’s father’s rival gang, which they blamed for gunning down family members, prosecutors said Tuesday.

Tyshawn Lee, 9, was in his school uniform when three men approached him in the South Side of Chicago in November 2015, prosecutors said during opening statements.

Prosecutors said Corey Morgan and Kevin Edwards kept watch while Dwight Doty lured the fourth grader into an alleyway. They said he promised him a juice box.

Doty then took out a .40-caliber handgun and shot Lee, Cook County Assistant State’s Attorney Margaret Hillmann said.

Two separate trials began for Morgan and Doty on Tuesday. The two alleged members of the Bang Gang/Terror Dome faction of the Black P Stones gang seek to pin the blame on each other for the child’s slaying, reports said.

No red flags for these guys.

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/09/dems_veto_red_flag_law_for_gangbangers.html​

In Chicago, the gangs work hand in hand with the democrat aldermen ....... this is why the democrat judges go light on violent gang members...

Lies.

 

[bluzman61]

Meanwhile back in reality…

Trump supporters are running over people in cars
Trump supporters are routinely sponsoring civil war
Trump supporters are mailing bombs to people
Trump supporters are shooting up Wal*Marts, churches, etc…

I want you dems and repubes to keep showing what the other is doing so the world can see how pathetic the both of you are,,and then maybe we can banish the both of you into oblivion

The only one mentioning Dems/Reps are you and the OP. I was citing Trump supporters…..who crave violence and routinely commit terrorist acts.

so antifa is just a knitting group???

When was the last time you heard about an antifa shooting anyone?

ANTIFA scum are too DUMB and MENTALLY UNSTABLE to own guns.

 

[RealDave]

nonsense

Go ahead....explain to us why the democrats vetoed using their beloved "Red Flag" laws to go after known criminals who are the ones doing the actual gun crimes...

Go ahead....we're waiting......

Explain to us what you’re talking about.

Did you read the OP or are you just trolling?

Everyone knows you're a Progressive Poster that trolls, so discuss the material of the OP like 2guy is pointing to you.

I discussed the title and demonstrated the well known fact that Trump supporters commit violence at an alarming rate and are defended after the fact.

The OP is not about your delusional thought about anyone that disagree with your opinion on life but about Democrats not passing a red flag bill because you would also focus on gang members.

So seeing you are refusing to discuss this by trying to change the subject show the board you are trolling as usual...

Now next you will proclaim the NRA is the biggest terrorist organization in the world and anyone that vote GOP are violent people that should be disarmed while still ignoring the content of the Op...

The use on gang members was really an example of how the law could be be unfairly applied. Being in a gang is not illegal & therefore not be an excuse to deny gun ownership. It sounds great until to look at what is a gang, what defines membership, is one gang member guilty are all gang members?

Including this would lead to a rejection by the USSC.

 

[RealDave]

Showing Americans EXACTLY who these subversive members of Congress who YOUvoted in really care about....harvesting THE THUGS VOTES!!

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If Democrats were serious about using red flag laws to keep guns out if the hands of people who might use them to senselessly murder others and therefore are danger to society, and not just as a gun-control tool to disarm law-abiding citizens, then why did they kill an attempt to use compiled lists of known gang members, which many police departments and law enforcement agencies possess?

Why did they kill a measure to red flag gang members?

And if Beto O’Rourke is going to come and take our guns, particularly our AR-15s, is he going to start on the south side of Chicago? As the Washington Examiner noted on September 14:

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...

whats worse is the republicans support them,,,

Anyone calling for gun control should support it, dont you think?

well the republicans have always favored gun control which explains why they support it

Republicans havent favored gun control. That is a dem thing.

then show me one gun control law the republicans have repealed or tried to repeal???

the fact is by not repealing any they have protected every gun control law in history

and thats not even getting into the red flag laws that the repubes are currently pushing,,,

They refused to renew the assault weapon ban. The vote failed in Congress.

Now what?

 

[Crepitus]

Democraps had a chance to vote FOR a Red-Flag law but instead chose to vote against it......to protect MS-13 Gang Members.

September 21, 2019
Dems Veto Red Flag Law for Gangbangers
By Daniel John Sobieski
If Democrats were serious about using red flag laws to keep guns out if the hands of people who might use them to senselessly murder others and therefore are danger to society, and not just as a gun-control tool to disarm law-abiding citizens, then why did they kill an attempt to use compiled lists of known gang members, which many police departments and law enforcement agencies possess? Why did they kill a measure to red flag gang members? And if Beto O’Rourke is going to come and take our guns, particularly our AR-15s, is he going to start on the south side of Chicago? As the Washington Examiner noted on September 14:

House Democrats this week advanced a new measure to encourage states to pass “red flag” laws, known as extreme risk protection orders, that authorize removing guns and ammunition from dangerous individuals.

Democrats on the House Judiciary Committee amended the measure during a Wednesday mark-up to authorize the federal government to issue extreme risk protection orders in some instances, but they rejected an amendment that would have red-flagged anyone who law enforcement lists as a gang member.

“The majority of violent crime, including gun violence, in the United States is linked to gangs,” Rep. Ken Buck, a Colorado Republican who sponsored the amendment, said Wednesday. “My amendment is quite simple. It would allow the issuance of a red flag order against anyone whose name appears in a gang database if there was probable cause to include that individual in the database.”

Dems like House Judiciary Chairman Jerry Nadler warned that people could be wrongly identified as gang members, just as people have been mistakenly put on no-fly lists. But identifying NRA members and law-abiding citizens exercising their constitutional right to keep and bear arms as killers-in-waiting are okay to Nadler, Swalwell, and O’Rourke. Yet, as Buck points out, urban police departments have a pretty good idea of who the gang members in their community are and are held to a high standard before officially listing them as member:

Buck pointed out his amendment requires law enforcement to limit red-flagging to only those with probable cause to be included on the list, which is a stricter criteria…

“Maybe you are just doodling because it is the 13th of June,” Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerry Nadler of New York said.

Buck said police have to meet a much higher threshold to list someone as a gang member.

“This is a situation where the police officers are trained, and there are very identifiable signs, and it isn't just one sign,” Buck told Nadler.

Chicago has the equivalent of a mass shooting every weekend, and just to put faces on those whom the Democrats want to exempt from red flag laws, consider that on last Tuesday two separate trials began in Chicago for known Chicago gang members Dwight Doty and Corey Morgan for the murder of nine-year-old Tyshawn Lee. As Fox News reported:

Two reputed Chicago gang members allegedly executed a 9-year-old boy in broad daylight because they sought revenge on the child’s father’s rival gang, which they blamed for gunning down family members, prosecutors said Tuesday.

Tyshawn Lee, 9, was in his school uniform when three men approached him in the South Side of Chicago in November 2015, prosecutors said during opening statements.

Prosecutors said Corey Morgan and Kevin Edwards kept watch while Dwight Doty lured the fourth grader into an alleyway. They said he promised him a juice box.

Doty then took out a .40-caliber handgun and shot Lee, Cook County Assistant State’s Attorney Margaret Hillmann said.

Two separate trials began for Morgan and Doty on Tuesday. The two alleged members of the Bang Gang/Terror Dome faction of the Black P Stones gang seek to pin the blame on each other for the child’s slaying, reports said.

No red flags for these guys.

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/09/dems_veto_red_flag_law_for_gangbangers.html​

Let me get this straight.

You want the government to raid the homes of gun owners & take their guns based on being on a list of likely gang members.

I think the NRA is a gang.

That’s because you’re a bigoted idiot.
List any murder perpetrated by the NRA.

We can't. The NRA protects it's members identity.

My guess is because many of them have been convicted of shooting people.