It's Official Now......Democrats Support Crime

[candycorn]

The NRA fights efforts to keep guns out of the hands of mass shooters.

Charles Manson killed no one himself.

name one??

The effort to lengthen the amount of time or a background check to be completed for a gun purchase has been fought by the NRA. The effort to close loopholes fought by the NRA. Fighting any gun control measure by the NRA.

I said name one mass shooter they fought to give them gun rights??

that was your claim,,,

Does the NRA favor keeping guns out of the houses of families that have a resident who is mentally ill? If not...Adam Lanza

Tell that to the ACLU....and the other 23 mental health organizations.......they don't support you either...

Gun Control Laws Should Be Fair

But gun control laws, like any law, should be fair, effective and not based on prejudice or stereotype. This rule met none of those criteria.

In this era of “alternative facts,” we must urge politicians to create laws based on reliable evidence and solid data.

The thousands of Americans whose disability benefits are managed by someone else range from young people with depression and financial inexperience to older adults with Down syndrome needing help with a limited budget. But no data — none — show that these individuals have a propensity for violence in general or gun violence in particular.

To the contrary, studies show that people with mental disabilities are less likely to commit firearm crimes than to be the victimsof violence by others.

--------------------------
The ACLU and 23 national disability groups did not oppose this rule because we want more guns in our community. This is about more than guns.

Adding more innocent Americans to the National Instant Criminal Background database because of a mental disability is a disturbing trend — one that could be applied to voting, parenting or other rights dearer than gun ownership. We opposed it because it would do little to stem gun violence but do much to harm our civil rights.

So....is the ACLU now a terrorist organization?

No.

But they are wrong on this one.

 

[RealDave]

Democraps had a chance to vote FOR a Red-Flag law but instead chose to vote against it......to protect MS-13 Gang Members.

September 21, 2019
Dems Veto Red Flag Law for Gangbangers
By Daniel John Sobieski
If Democrats were serious about using red flag laws to keep guns out if the hands of people who might use them to senselessly murder others and therefore are danger to society, and not just as a gun-control tool to disarm law-abiding citizens, then why did they kill an attempt to use compiled lists of known gang members, which many police departments and law enforcement agencies possess? Why did they kill a measure to red flag gang members? And if Beto O’Rourke is going to come and take our guns, particularly our AR-15s, is he going to start on the south side of Chicago? As the Washington Examiner noted on September 14:

House Democrats this week advanced a new measure to encourage states to pass “red flag” laws, known as extreme risk protection orders, that authorize removing guns and ammunition from dangerous individuals.

Democrats on the House Judiciary Committee amended the measure during a Wednesday mark-up to authorize the federal government to issue extreme risk protection orders in some instances, but they rejected an amendment that would have red-flagged anyone who law enforcement lists as a gang member.

“The majority of violent crime, including gun violence, in the United States is linked to gangs,” Rep. Ken Buck, a Colorado Republican who sponsored the amendment, said Wednesday. “My amendment is quite simple. It would allow the issuance of a red flag order against anyone whose name appears in a gang database if there was probable cause to include that individual in the database.”

Dems like House Judiciary Chairman Jerry Nadler warned that people could be wrongly identified as gang members, just as people have been mistakenly put on no-fly lists. But identifying NRA members and law-abiding citizens exercising their constitutional right to keep and bear arms as killers-in-waiting are okay to Nadler, Swalwell, and O’Rourke. Yet, as Buck points out, urban police departments have a pretty good idea of who the gang members in their community are and are held to a high standard before officially listing them as member:

Buck pointed out his amendment requires law enforcement to limit red-flagging to only those with probable cause to be included on the list, which is a stricter criteria…

“Maybe you are just doodling because it is the 13th of June,” Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerry Nadler of New York said.

Buck said police have to meet a much higher threshold to list someone as a gang member.

“This is a situation where the police officers are trained, and there are very identifiable signs, and it isn't just one sign,” Buck told Nadler.

Chicago has the equivalent of a mass shooting every weekend, and just to put faces on those whom the Democrats want to exempt from red flag laws, consider that on last Tuesday two separate trials began in Chicago for known Chicago gang members Dwight Doty and Corey Morgan for the murder of nine-year-old Tyshawn Lee. As Fox News reported:

Two reputed Chicago gang members allegedly executed a 9-year-old boy in broad daylight because they sought revenge on the child’s father’s rival gang, which they blamed for gunning down family members, prosecutors said Tuesday.

Tyshawn Lee, 9, was in his school uniform when three men approached him in the South Side of Chicago in November 2015, prosecutors said during opening statements.

Prosecutors said Corey Morgan and Kevin Edwards kept watch while Dwight Doty lured the fourth grader into an alleyway. They said he promised him a juice box.

Doty then took out a .40-caliber handgun and shot Lee, Cook County Assistant State’s Attorney Margaret Hillmann said.

Two separate trials began for Morgan and Doty on Tuesday. The two alleged members of the Bang Gang/Terror Dome faction of the Black P Stones gang seek to pin the blame on each other for the child’s slaying, reports said.

No red flags for these guys.

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/09/dems_veto_red_flag_law_for_gangbangers.html​

Let me get this straight.

You want the government to raid the homes of gun owners & take their guns based on being on a list of likely gang members.

I think the NRA is a gang.

That’s because you’re a bigoted idiot.
List any murder perpetrated by the NRA.

The NRA fights efforts to keep guns out of the hands of mass shooters.

Charles Manson killed no one himself.

Do you ever stop using left wing talking points that are lies?

I am not the one lying.

You spew NRA bullshit using stupid examples with great dishonesty.

 

[2aguy]

Democraps had a chance to vote FOR a Red-Flag law but instead chose to vote against it......to protect MS-13 Gang Members.

September 21, 2019
Dems Veto Red Flag Law for Gangbangers
By Daniel John Sobieski
If Democrats were serious about using red flag laws to keep guns out if the hands of people who might use them to senselessly murder others and therefore are danger to society, and not just as a gun-control tool to disarm law-abiding citizens, then why did they kill an attempt to use compiled lists of known gang members, which many police departments and law enforcement agencies possess? Why did they kill a measure to red flag gang members? And if Beto O’Rourke is going to come and take our guns, particularly our AR-15s, is he going to start on the south side of Chicago? As the Washington Examiner noted on September 14:

House Democrats this week advanced a new measure to encourage states to pass “red flag” laws, known as extreme risk protection orders, that authorize removing guns and ammunition from dangerous individuals.

Democrats on the House Judiciary Committee amended the measure during a Wednesday mark-up to authorize the federal government to issue extreme risk protection orders in some instances, but they rejected an amendment that would have red-flagged anyone who law enforcement lists as a gang member.

“The majority of violent crime, including gun violence, in the United States is linked to gangs,” Rep. Ken Buck, a Colorado Republican who sponsored the amendment, said Wednesday. “My amendment is quite simple. It would allow the issuance of a red flag order against anyone whose name appears in a gang database if there was probable cause to include that individual in the database.”

Dems like House Judiciary Chairman Jerry Nadler warned that people could be wrongly identified as gang members, just as people have been mistakenly put on no-fly lists. But identifying NRA members and law-abiding citizens exercising their constitutional right to keep and bear arms as killers-in-waiting are okay to Nadler, Swalwell, and O’Rourke. Yet, as Buck points out, urban police departments have a pretty good idea of who the gang members in their community are and are held to a high standard before officially listing them as member:

Buck pointed out his amendment requires law enforcement to limit red-flagging to only those with probable cause to be included on the list, which is a stricter criteria…

“Maybe you are just doodling because it is the 13th of June,” Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerry Nadler of New York said.

Buck said police have to meet a much higher threshold to list someone as a gang member.

“This is a situation where the police officers are trained, and there are very identifiable signs, and it isn't just one sign,” Buck told Nadler.

Chicago has the equivalent of a mass shooting every weekend, and just to put faces on those whom the Democrats want to exempt from red flag laws, consider that on last Tuesday two separate trials began in Chicago for known Chicago gang members Dwight Doty and Corey Morgan for the murder of nine-year-old Tyshawn Lee. As Fox News reported:

Two reputed Chicago gang members allegedly executed a 9-year-old boy in broad daylight because they sought revenge on the child’s father’s rival gang, which they blamed for gunning down family members, prosecutors said Tuesday.

Tyshawn Lee, 9, was in his school uniform when three men approached him in the South Side of Chicago in November 2015, prosecutors said during opening statements.

Prosecutors said Corey Morgan and Kevin Edwards kept watch while Dwight Doty lured the fourth grader into an alleyway. They said he promised him a juice box.

Doty then took out a .40-caliber handgun and shot Lee, Cook County Assistant State’s Attorney Margaret Hillmann said.

Two separate trials began for Morgan and Doty on Tuesday. The two alleged members of the Bang Gang/Terror Dome faction of the Black P Stones gang seek to pin the blame on each other for the child’s slaying, reports said.

No red flags for these guys.

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/09/dems_veto_red_flag_law_for_gangbangers.html​

Let me get this straight.

You want the government to raid the homes of gun owners & take their guns based on being on a list of likely gang members.

I think the NRA is a gang.

That’s because you’re a bigoted idiot.
List any murder perpetrated by the NRA.

The NRA fights efforts to keep guns out of the hands of mass shooters.

Charles Manson killed no one himself.

Do you ever stop using left wing talking points that are lies?

I am not the one lying.

You spew NRA bullshit using stupid examples with great dishonesty.

I don't use the NRA generally. I use the FBI, the Centers For Disease Control, the Department of Justice, Mother Jones.....tell me....are any of those spelled N-R-A?

 

[RealDave]

I discussed the title and demonstrated the well known fact that Trump supporters commit violence at an alarming rate and are defended after the fact.

The OP is not about your delusional thought about anyone that disagree with your opinion on life but about Democrats not passing a red flag bill because you would also focus on gang members.

So seeing you are refusing to discuss this by trying to change the subject show the board you are trolling as usual...

Now next you will proclaim the NRA is the biggest terrorist organization in the world and anyone that vote GOP are violent people that should be disarmed while still ignoring the content of the Op...

The use on gang members was really an example of how the law could be be unfairly applied. Being in a gang is not illegal & therefore not be an excuse to deny gun ownership. It sounds great until to look at what is a gang, what defines membership, is one gang member guilty are all gang members?

Including this would lead to a rejection by the USSC.

Holy shit!

You are stretching there Davey as usual.

You know very well what gangs they would go after and those are the ones you and your political party protects daily.

I am not for using hit lists like you and the left would because let be honest those like you have been calling for the no-fly list to be used to deny an individual their constitutional rights but now when a list could be used to deny gang members of the violent type you are now against using lists or certain lists...

So tell the board why you support using the No-Fly list but not a gang banger list?

So, lets give the government blankret authority to decide what is a gang & let them take your guns.

Really? I can't believe you people are going for this. On any NRA approved thread, you people would be having a fit.

You know it.

Moron....we are against Red Flag laws.....you morons only want to use them against normal people.....and when you are called out to use those same lists against actual gun criminals...all of a sudden you don't want to use them.....so the issue isn't supporting Red Flag laws, you numb nuts....it is asking the question....if you support Red Flag laws for people who haven't committed any crime, why don't you support them for actual gun criminals who have actually broken existing laws about guns?

You are the issue, not us.

Really.

Did you read what this thread is about?
Let me remind you.

It is about the Democrats being for crime because they voted against the red flag law as written.

So are you for crime too?

 

[Wyatt earp]

Did you read the OP or are you just trolling?

Everyone knows you're a Progressive Poster that trolls, so discuss the material of the OP like 2guy is pointing to you.

I discussed the title and demonstrated the well known fact that Trump supporters commit violence at an alarming rate and are defended after the fact.

The OP is not about your delusional thought about anyone that disagree with your opinion on life but about Democrats not passing a red flag bill because you would also focus on gang members.

So seeing you are refusing to discuss this by trying to change the subject show the board you are trolling as usual...

Now next you will proclaim the NRA is the biggest terrorist organization in the world and anyone that vote GOP are violent people that should be disarmed while still ignoring the content of the Op...

The use on gang members was really an example of how the law could be be unfairly applied. Being in a gang is not illegal & therefore not be an excuse to deny gun ownership. It sounds great until to look at what is a gang, what defines membership, is one gang member guilty are all gang members?

Including this would lead to a rejection by the USSC.

Holy shit!

You are stretching there Davey as usual.

You know very well what gangs they would go after and those are the ones you and your political party protects daily.

I am not for using hit lists like you and the left would because let be honest those like you have been calling for the no-fly list to be used to deny an individual their constitutional rights but now when a list could be used to deny gang members of the violent type you are now against using lists or certain lists...

So tell the board why you support using the No-Fly list but not a gang banger list?

So, lets give the government blankret authority to decide what is a gang & let them take your guns.

Really? I can't believe you people are going for this. On any NRA approved thread, you people would be having a fit.

You know it.

It's not that fucking complicated to find out what a gang is mental midget.

 

[RealDave]

Let me get this straight.

You want the government to raid the homes of gun owners & take their guns based on being on a list of likely gang members.

I think the NRA is a gang.

That’s because you’re a bigoted idiot.
List any murder perpetrated by the NRA.

The NRA fights efforts to keep guns out of the hands of mass shooters.

Charles Manson killed no one himself.

Do you ever stop using left wing talking points that are lies?

I am not the one lying.

You spew NRA bullshit using stupid examples with great dishonesty.

I don't use the NRA generally. I use the FBI, the Centers For Disease Control, the Department of Justice, Mother Jones.....tell me....are any of those spelled N-R-A?

You use them for statistics and then you apply your own stupid analysis. That is fed to you by the NRA.

For example, I say we should ban the AR-15s to lower the number of people killed in mass shooting and you reply by saying murder by rifles represent very few murders.

That is you being dishonest & a liar.

 

[RealDave]

I discussed the title and demonstrated the well known fact that Trump supporters commit violence at an alarming rate and are defended after the fact.

The OP is not about your delusional thought about anyone that disagree with your opinion on life but about Democrats not passing a red flag bill because you would also focus on gang members.

So seeing you are refusing to discuss this by trying to change the subject show the board you are trolling as usual...

Now next you will proclaim the NRA is the biggest terrorist organization in the world and anyone that vote GOP are violent people that should be disarmed while still ignoring the content of the Op...

The use on gang members was really an example of how the law could be be unfairly applied. Being in a gang is not illegal & therefore not be an excuse to deny gun ownership. It sounds great until to look at what is a gang, what defines membership, is one gang member guilty are all gang members?

Including this would lead to a rejection by the USSC.

Holy shit!

You are stretching there Davey as usual.

You know very well what gangs they would go after and those are the ones you and your political party protects daily.

I am not for using hit lists like you and the left would because let be honest those like you have been calling for the no-fly list to be used to deny an individual their constitutional rights but now when a list could be used to deny gang members of the violent type you are now against using lists or certain lists...

So tell the board why you support using the No-Fly list but not a gang banger list?

So, lets give the government blankret authority to decide what is a gang & let them take your guns.

Really? I can't believe you people are going for this. On any NRA approved thread, you people would be having a fit.

You know it.

It's not that fucking complicated to find out what a gang is mental midget.

So why isn't the NRA a gang? What makes a gang a gang? Is it a bunch of young people in an organization the commit crimes & how is thart different than a finance group screwing people out of their investments?

 

[RealDave]

Let me get this straight.

You want the government to raid the homes of gun owners & take their guns based on being on a list of likely gang members.

I think the NRA is a gang.

That’s because you’re a bigoted idiot.
List any murder perpetrated by the NRA.

The NRA fights efforts to keep guns out of the hands of mass shooters.

Charles Manson killed no one himself.

name one??

The effort to lengthen the amount of time or a background check to be completed for a gun purchase has been fought by the NRA. The effort to close loopholes fought by the NRA. Fighting any gun control measure by the NRA.

I said name one mass shooter they fought to give them gun rights??

that was your claim,,,

EVERY ONE that obtained an assault type rifle since 20p04.

 

[2aguy]

That’s because you’re a bigoted idiot.
List any murder perpetrated by the NRA.

The NRA fights efforts to keep guns out of the hands of mass shooters.

Charles Manson killed no one himself.

Do you ever stop using left wing talking points that are lies?

I am not the one lying.

You spew NRA bullshit using stupid examples with great dishonesty.

I don't use the NRA generally. I use the FBI, the Centers For Disease Control, the Department of Justice, Mother Jones.....tell me....are any of those spelled N-R-A?

You use them for statistics and then you apply your own stupid analysis. That is fed to you by the NRA.

For example, I say we should ban the AR-15s to lower the number of people killed in mass shooting and you reply by saying murder by rifles represent very few murders.

That is you being dishonest & a liar.

No, moron, that is telling the truth....using the FBI and the CDC to show you are an idiot....also, using Mother Jones......tell me they work for the NRA, you doofus.

Total number of people killed in 2018 in mass public shootings....93.

Number of people killed with knives every single year....over 1,500.

Gilroy shooting.... rifle....2 killed

Dayton shooting...rifle 10 killed

Virginia Tech....32 killed with 2 pistols.

Russian shooting....20 killed, 40 injured, 5 shot, tube fed, pump action shotgun.

Luby's Cafe...24 killed, 2 pistols

Navy Yard shooting....pump action shotgun...12 killed.

Fort Hood shooting.....13 killed, pistol.

You are an idiot.....as I just demonstrated above...it isn't the gun or the magazine capacity.....you moron....it is the free time the killer has in the gun free zone before a good guy with a gun makes them stop.......

 

[2aguy]

The OP is not about your delusional thought about anyone that disagree with your opinion on life but about Democrats not passing a red flag bill because you would also focus on gang members.

So seeing you are refusing to discuss this by trying to change the subject show the board you are trolling as usual...

Now next you will proclaim the NRA is the biggest terrorist organization in the world and anyone that vote GOP are violent people that should be disarmed while still ignoring the content of the Op...

The use on gang members was really an example of how the law could be be unfairly applied. Being in a gang is not illegal & therefore not be an excuse to deny gun ownership. It sounds great until to look at what is a gang, what defines membership, is one gang member guilty are all gang members?

Including this would lead to a rejection by the USSC.

Holy shit!

You are stretching there Davey as usual.

You know very well what gangs they would go after and those are the ones you and your political party protects daily.

I am not for using hit lists like you and the left would because let be honest those like you have been calling for the no-fly list to be used to deny an individual their constitutional rights but now when a list could be used to deny gang members of the violent type you are now against using lists or certain lists...

So tell the board why you support using the No-Fly list but not a gang banger list?

So, lets give the government blankret authority to decide what is a gang & let them take your guns.

Really? I can't believe you people are going for this. On any NRA approved thread, you people would be having a fit.

You know it.

It's not that fucking complicated to find out what a gang is mental midget.

So why isn't the NRA a gang? What makes a gang a gang? Is it a bunch of young people in an organization the commit crimes & how is thart different than a finance group screwing people out of their investments?

Crime, you asshat.

 

[2aguy]

That’s because you’re a bigoted idiot.
List any murder perpetrated by the NRA.

The NRA fights efforts to keep guns out of the hands of mass shooters.

Charles Manson killed no one himself.

Do you ever stop using left wing talking points that are lies?

I am not the one lying.

You spew NRA bullshit using stupid examples with great dishonesty.

I don't use the NRA generally. I use the FBI, the Centers For Disease Control, the Department of Justice, Mother Jones.....tell me....are any of those spelled N-R-A?

You use them for statistics and then you apply your own stupid analysis. That is fed to you by the NRA.

For example, I say we should ban the AR-15s to lower the number of people killed in mass shooting and you reply by saying murder by rifles represent very few murders.

That is you being dishonest & a liar.

You use them for statistics and then you apply your own stupid analysis.

You really are stupid....I don't use the NRA for any statistics...again, I use the FBI, the CDC, the DOJ, Mother Jones, and various other researchers with no connection to the NRA, you doofus...

 

[OldLady]

Democraps had a chance to vote FOR a Red-Flag law but instead chose to vote against it......to protect MS-13 Gang Members.

September 21, 2019
Dems Veto Red Flag Law for Gangbangers
By Daniel John Sobieski
If Democrats were serious about using red flag laws to keep guns out if the hands of people who might use them to senselessly murder others and therefore are danger to society, and not just as a gun-control tool to disarm law-abiding citizens, then why did they kill an attempt to use compiled lists of known gang members, which many police departments and law enforcement agencies possess? Why did they kill a measure to red flag gang members? And if Beto O’Rourke is going to come and take our guns, particularly our AR-15s, is he going to start on the south side of Chicago? As the Washington Examiner noted on September 14:

House Democrats this week advanced a new measure to encourage states to pass “red flag” laws, known as extreme risk protection orders, that authorize removing guns and ammunition from dangerous individuals.

Democrats on the House Judiciary Committee amended the measure during a Wednesday mark-up to authorize the federal government to issue extreme risk protection orders in some instances, but they rejected an amendment that would have red-flagged anyone who law enforcement lists as a gang member.

“The majority of violent crime, including gun violence, in the United States is linked to gangs,” Rep. Ken Buck, a Colorado Republican who sponsored the amendment, said Wednesday. “My amendment is quite simple. It would allow the issuance of a red flag order against anyone whose name appears in a gang database if there was probable cause to include that individual in the database.”

Dems like House Judiciary Chairman Jerry Nadler warned that people could be wrongly identified as gang members, just as people have been mistakenly put on no-fly lists. But identifying NRA members and law-abiding citizens exercising their constitutional right to keep and bear arms as killers-in-waiting are okay to Nadler, Swalwell, and O’Rourke. Yet, as Buck points out, urban police departments have a pretty good idea of who the gang members in their community are and are held to a high standard before officially listing them as member:

Buck pointed out his amendment requires law enforcement to limit red-flagging to only those with probable cause to be included on the list, which is a stricter criteria…

“Maybe you are just doodling because it is the 13th of June,” Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerry Nadler of New York said.

Buck said police have to meet a much higher threshold to list someone as a gang member.

“This is a situation where the police officers are trained, and there are very identifiable signs, and it isn't just one sign,” Buck told Nadler.

Chicago has the equivalent of a mass shooting every weekend, and just to put faces on those whom the Democrats want to exempt from red flag laws, consider that on last Tuesday two separate trials began in Chicago for known Chicago gang members Dwight Doty and Corey Morgan for the murder of nine-year-old Tyshawn Lee. As Fox News reported:

Two reputed Chicago gang members allegedly executed a 9-year-old boy in broad daylight because they sought revenge on the child’s father’s rival gang, which they blamed for gunning down family members, prosecutors said Tuesday.

Tyshawn Lee, 9, was in his school uniform when three men approached him in the South Side of Chicago in November 2015, prosecutors said during opening statements.

Prosecutors said Corey Morgan and Kevin Edwards kept watch while Dwight Doty lured the fourth grader into an alleyway. They said he promised him a juice box.

Doty then took out a .40-caliber handgun and shot Lee, Cook County Assistant State’s Attorney Margaret Hillmann said.

Two separate trials began for Morgan and Doty on Tuesday. The two alleged members of the Bang Gang/Terror Dome faction of the Black P Stones gang seek to pin the blame on each other for the child’s slaying, reports said.

No red flags for these guys.

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/09/dems_veto_red_flag_law_for_gangbangers.html​

You are among the first to scream about due process, unless it comes to people you'd like to see punished. It's very clear why the law can't red flag people just because the police have "a pretty good idea" they are gang members.

It's a horrible gang. They are feral dregs of society and I'd like to see them stopped, too. But you have to follow the law.

 

[RealDave]

The NRA fights efforts to keep guns out of the hands of mass shooters.

Charles Manson killed no one himself.

Do you ever stop using left wing talking points that are lies?

I am not the one lying.

You spew NRA bullshit using stupid examples with great dishonesty.

I don't use the NRA generally. I use the FBI, the Centers For Disease Control, the Department of Justice, Mother Jones.....tell me....are any of those spelled N-R-A?

You use them for statistics and then you apply your own stupid analysis. That is fed to you by the NRA.

For example, I say we should ban the AR-15s to lower the number of people killed in mass shooting and you reply by saying murder by rifles represent very few murders.

That is you being dishonest & a liar.

Look assfuck. I was talking about your listing of the other sitres.

You use them for statistics and then you apply your own stupid analysis.

You really are stupid....I don't use the NRA for any statistics...again, I use the FBI, the CDC, the DOJ, Mother Jones, and various other researchers with no connection to the NRA, you doofus...

 

[mudwhistle]

Explain to us what you’re talking about.

Did you read the OP or are you just trolling?

Everyone knows you're a Progressive Poster that trolls, so discuss the material of the OP like 2guy is pointing to you.

I discussed the title and demonstrated the well known fact that Trump supporters commit violence at an alarming rate and are defended after the fact.

The OP is not about your delusional thought about anyone that disagree with your opinion on life but about Democrats not passing a red flag bill because you would also focus on gang members.

So seeing you are refusing to discuss this by trying to change the subject show the board you are trolling as usual...

Now next you will proclaim the NRA is the biggest terrorist organization in the world and anyone that vote GOP are violent people that should be disarmed while still ignoring the content of the Op...

The use on gang members was really an example of how the law could be be unfairly applied. Being in a gang is not illegal & therefore not be an excuse to deny gun ownership. It sounds great until to look at what is a gang, what defines membership, is one gang member guilty are all gang members?

Including this would lead to a rejection by the USSC.

Moron....the people you want to be targeted by the red flag laws have done nothing wrong at all....gang members have actually shown violent behavior and illegal gun ownership..... members of gangs have criminal records...which is what was the point of targeting them....and democrats said no...they would rather take guns away from people who haven't done anything wrong.

Communists use criminals to carry out intimidation against the masses to keep them in line.
The Democrats are an oppressive political party.
They have done things in the last couple of years that would have ended them as a political party 20 years ago.
They're just trying things and getting us used to it.
Eventually they figure we'll fail to reject it......and their brainwashed brats will eventually become adults and ask for what they're doing as well as demand it.

 

[RealDave]

The use on gang members was really an example of how the law could be be unfairly applied. Being in a gang is not illegal & therefore not be an excuse to deny gun ownership. It sounds great until to look at what is a gang, what defines membership, is one gang member guilty are all gang members?

Including this would lead to a rejection by the USSC.

Holy shit!

You are stretching there Davey as usual.

You know very well what gangs they would go after and those are the ones you and your political party protects daily.

I am not for using hit lists like you and the left would because let be honest those like you have been calling for the no-fly list to be used to deny an individual their constitutional rights but now when a list could be used to deny gang members of the violent type you are now against using lists or certain lists...

So tell the board why you support using the No-Fly list but not a gang banger list?

The NRA enables crime by making it as easy as possible to get a gun and make it legal for them to carry guns.


So, lets give the government blankret authority to decide what is a gang & let them take your guns.

Really? I can't believe you people are going for this. On any NRA approved thread, you people would be having a fit.

You know it.

It's not that fucking complicated to find out what a gang is mental midget.

So why isn't the NRA a gang? What makes a gang a gang? Is it a bunch of young people in an organization the commit crimes & how is thart different than a finance group screwing people out of their investments?

Crime, you asshat.

 

[Polishprince]

You are among the first to scream about due process, unless it comes to people you'd like to see punished. It's very clear why the law can't red flag people just because the police have "a pretty good idea" they are gang members.

It's a horrible gang. They are feral dregs of society and I'd like to see them stopped, too. But you have to follow the law.

Fair enough, but the proposed "red flag" laws that the Dems are advocating would allow the confiscation of weapons just because a friend, relative, doctor or nosy neighbor "has a pretty good idea" they are dangerous.

I think that if you are going to have such a red flag law, the police are more experts than neighbors, no?

 

[RealDave]

Did you read the OP or are you just trolling?

Everyone knows you're a Progressive Poster that trolls, so discuss the material of the OP like 2guy is pointing to you.

I discussed the title and demonstrated the well known fact that Trump supporters commit violence at an alarming rate and are defended after the fact.

The OP is not about your delusional thought about anyone that disagree with your opinion on life but about Democrats not passing a red flag bill because you would also focus on gang members.

So seeing you are refusing to discuss this by trying to change the subject show the board you are trolling as usual...

Now next you will proclaim the NRA is the biggest terrorist organization in the world and anyone that vote GOP are violent people that should be disarmed while still ignoring the content of the Op...

The use on gang members was really an example of how the law could be be unfairly applied. Being in a gang is not illegal & therefore not be an excuse to deny gun ownership. It sounds great until to look at what is a gang, what defines membership, is one gang member guilty are all gang members?

Including this would lead to a rejection by the USSC.

Moron....the people you want to be targeted by the red flag laws have done nothing wrong at all....gang members have actually shown violent behavior and illegal gun ownership..... members of gangs have criminal records...which is what was the point of targeting them....and democrats said no...they would rather take guns away from people who haven't done anything wrong.

Communists use criminals to carry out intimidation against the masses to keep them in line.
The Democrats are an oppressive political party.
They have done things in the last couple of years that would have ended them as a political party 20 years ago.
They're just trying things and getting us used to it.
Eventually they figure we'll fail to reject it......and their brainwashed brats will eventually become adults and ask for what they're doing as well as demand it.

Democrats aren't telling people at rallies to commit violence & their legal fees would be covered. Telling people to break the law with a promise of a pardon.

 

[RealDave]

You are among the first to scream about due process, unless it comes to people you'd like to see punished. It's very clear why the law can't red flag people just because the police have "a pretty good idea" they are gang members.

It's a horrible gang. They are feral dregs of society and I'd like to see them stopped, too. But you have to follow the law.

Fair enough, but the proposed "red flag" laws that the Dems are advocating would allow the confiscation of weapons just because a friend, relative, doctor or nosy neighbor "has a pretty good idea" they are dangerous.

I think that if you are going to have such a red flag law, the police are more experts than neighbors, no?

A court decides. How stupid are you people?

 

[OldLady]

You are among the first to scream about due process, unless it comes to people you'd like to see punished. It's very clear why the law can't red flag people just because the police have "a pretty good idea" they are gang members.

It's a horrible gang. They are feral dregs of society and I'd like to see them stopped, too. But you have to follow the law.

Fair enough, but the proposed "red flag" laws that the Dems are advocating would allow the confiscation of weapons just because a friend, relative, doctor or nosy neighbor "has a pretty good idea" they are dangerous.

I think that if you are going to have such a red flag law, the police are more experts than neighbors, no?

EVIDENCE has to be supplied to the judge BEFORE an order is signed. You can't just walk in to court and get a judge to sign a temporary order without some EVIDENCE.

 

[OldLady]

You are among the first to scream about due process, unless it comes to people you'd like to see punished. It's very clear why the law can't red flag people just because the police have "a pretty good idea" they are gang members.

It's a horrible gang. They are feral dregs of society and I'd like to see them stopped, too. But you have to follow the law.

Fair enough, but the proposed "red flag" laws that the Dems are advocating would allow the confiscation of weapons just because a friend, relative, doctor or nosy neighbor "has a pretty good idea" they are dangerous.

I think that if you are going to have such a red flag law, the police are more experts than neighbors, no?

In answer to your question, NO, why would the police know more about a person's state of mind than a family member or someone else who has regular contact with him?