It's a Public School-Sponsored Baptism Party!

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    It's a Public School-Sponsored Baptism Party!
    By Brantley Hargrove in Crazy Crap, Hargrove
    Tuesday, Sep. 8 2009 @ 2:30PM
    [​IMG]​From the state that brought you the Creation Museum comes the latest in religious buffoonery, this time with an un-Constitutional twist!

    While the fringe (and even respectable media) work themselves into apoplectic fits of indignation over potential socialist indoctrination of our impressionable school-age youth by the evil Obama, one Kentucky school district is taking it to the next level: Actual indoctrination of impressionable school-age kids! Only it's acceptable, see? Because it's Christian.

    A Breckenridge County High School football coach took the school bus and 20 football players to an impromptu religious revival. Nearly half of them were baptized. But it gets better! The freakin' superintendent of the school district was there, praising Jesus right along with them! I hate to resort to barbarous, foreshortened blasphemy, but OMFG.

    Of course, the coaches claim everything was kosher because they paid for the gas (that went into the public school bus) and attendance was optional. Right, because a high school-age football player who desperately wants to be part of a cohesive team won't feel pressured at all to participate in a field trip endorsed by the man in the ultimate position of power (the coach) and the superintendent no less.

    One parent is already pretty pissed off: "Nobody should push their faith on anybody else," concerned mom Michelle Ammons told the Louisville Courier-Journal.

    Because the Breckenridge County School District appears to be clearly violating the principle of the separation of church and state by taking school-sanctioned Jesus field trips, we here at Pith hope Michelle sues the bejesus out of them.
     
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    KY school district official ok with baptizing footballers, but students forced to 'opt-in' for Obama speech

    I had a hunch.

    As I was writing up a little story this morning about a Kentucky high school football coach who took his players to a Baptist revival where several were baptized -- at least one without parental consent -- I said to myself, I bet they didn't play Obama's speech today.

    A quick phone call to the high school got me transferred to the school district's main offices, where a friendly woman answered but did not want to give her name when I identified myself as a reporter.

    "Mam'," I began, "I just have one question that's not even related to the baptism thing and the coach. I just want to know if the district's schools played President Obama's speech on education today."

    She responded by putting me on hold. Upon returning, she claimed to have no first-hand knowledge but had been told by someone else in the office that ...

    "The students who watched the president's speech today had to get a note signed by their parents that said they could watch it."

    In other words, students at the school district where a top official -- the superintendent -- does not see anything wrong with taking football players to be baptized at a Christian revival, were forced to get a parent's signature to "opt-in" (instead of out) for the president's speech.

    As Johnny Carson used to say, "Weird, wild, wacky stuff."
     
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    If it was legally optional then there is no problem. Feeling pressured to participate in the field trip? Maybe, maybe not, how could you know unless you were a fly on the wall. Judging their motivations based on your own paradigm....priceless.
     
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    I look forward to seeing the same logic applied when students come home with tales of praying to mecca during soccer camp.
     
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    Nothing wrong with being baptized. I was Baptized lutheran when I was 8 years old.
    But, that coach is lucky my kid wasn't involved. He would have my hands wrapped around his throat while the life is slowly choked from his body.
     
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    I would be one pissed off parent. Definitely.
     
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    This is the real meaning of the First Amendment Clause of our United States Constitution, which reads:

    “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;…”

    Father of the United States Constitution, James Madison had this clause put into the Constitution, in order that the government would never again force citizens to attend a state-controlled church, such as the Anglican Church in Virginia had been. This is the true meaning of the phrase:

    “Separation of the Church from interference by the State”

    By design it's to keep the government from dictating a specific religion, it's not meant to keep religion out of the government. If that were the case then explain why the preambles of all 50 state constitutions references God as well as the Declaration of Independence (which contains four references to God). Also explain why almost every historical monument is engraved with scripture from Washington's monument ["Holiness to the Lord" (Exodus 28), "Search the Scriptures" (John 5:39), "The memory of the just is blessed" (Proverbs 10:7) -- and such invocations as, "May Heaven to this Union continue its Benefice."] to Moses and the Ten Commandments on the Supreme Court building.

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    Then explain "In God We Trust" which is printed on all U.S. currency and mentioned in the Pledge of Allegiance. Our rights come from God, not from the government!
     
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    There IS a problem if they took a school bus - no matter WHO paid for the gas.

    I personally don't have a problem with anything else in the story. Didn't the students have to tell their parents where they were going? Did the coach kidnap them?

    Keep a close eye on your children - or someone else will.
     
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    our currency only started doing that in the 1930's. i find taking students to any religious activity objectionable.
     
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    I don't - as long as it is voluntary and the kid's parent(s) have said it's OK.

    They shouldn't have taken a school bus though
     

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