Soggy in NOLA
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american exceptionalism
Another American hating shit-for-brains who probably contributes nothing chimes in about how bad we are while sucking up the good life with little effort.
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american exceptionalism
Olive pickers? You should really think about getting out of New Orleans now and then.Fucking olive pickers. I hope the next bomb goes off in downtown Milan.
american exceptionalism
Another American hating shit-for-brains who probably contributes nothing chimes in about how bad we are while sucking up the good life with little effort.
He's got a point. Rendition opens up a huge can of worms. Will you be ok with the idea of the Russians abducting off the streets Americans they think are co-conspirators with the Georgian resistance movement? How about Chinese abducting students that are taking part in pro-democracy movements? Iranians abducting Christians that support missionaries to Islamic countries?
Once you open that door, a lot of really bad stuff can come through it.
Fucking olive pickers. I hope the next bomb goes off in downtown Milan.
You actually think that we should punish countries that get huffy when our agents kidnap people from that country?As much as I don't agree with it I have to admit that it is their country and if they decide to convict people for abducting their citizens then that is their right. On the other hand, it is our right to revoke any special privalages that italian citizens get in this country and I think we should start revoking them immediatly.
Absolutely. And I hope the employees skipped the country.The case centered on the extraordinary rendition of a Muslim cleric, Osama Mustafa Hassan Nasr, or Abu Omar. <more>
Did they break Italian Law inside the Italian Government's Jurisdiction?
If they did, Italy is entirely within their rights to arrest and prosecute. It isn't a matter of liking Italy's decision, its a matter of Italian Sovreignty.
Fucking olive pickers. I hope the next bomb goes off in downtown Milan.
Fucking olive pickers. I hope the next bomb goes off in downtown Milan.
Bbbbbut why do they hate us?
Bbbbbut why do they hate us?
they hated us back in 75 too.....any other revelations?
Bbbbbut why do they hate us?
they hated us back in 75 too.....any other revelations?
Annoying, isn't it? Americans who are too fucking stupid to realize that we didn't actually bring this on ourselves. Certain countries, certain cultures will always hate us because of our freedoms, not because we're an evil nation. Maybe we should teach our kids the truth instead of filling their heads with shit about how bad our nation is.
Fucking liberal school system.
So anyone working for the US should just be completely immune from the laws of the sovereign countries they're in and ignore international law?
Anyone opposing this is little more than a jingoistic idiot with no consideration of the greater impact of legalizing kidnapping and doing away with a justice system as "extraordinary" rendition does.
So anyone working for the US should just be completely immune from the laws of the sovereign countries they're in and ignore international law?
Anyone opposing this is little more than a jingoistic idiot with no consideration of the greater impact of legalizing kidnapping and doing away with a justice system as "extraordinary" rendition does.
I detect a little bit of hypocracy in this because I can't see how you can claim that Italy has soveriegn rights but US states do not.
Wonder what the Italians would do if they had a 9-11? Personally I don't care what the CIA does to keep up safe. For my money they can kill all terrorists on site. After all, the terrorists would kill any Americans or if they could, we would have another 9-11.
Italy and the rest of Europe can kiss my ass. The only time they want to see America is when they need money or they need someone to shed blood for them. Europe, with a few exceptions, will do nothing to fight terrorism unless it lands in their back yard. They depend on the good ol U.S. of A to do the fighting for them. The next time somebody goosesteps across Europe, they can handle it themselves.
Our so called Allies will do nothing unless we lead the way. Unless we provide the manpower, blood and lets not forget the money.
And what would you have the USA do in a jurisdiction that is not the USA's?Wonder what the Italians would do if they had a 9-11? Personally I don't care what the CIA does to keep up safe. For my money they can kill all terrorists on site. After all, the terrorists would kill any Americans or if they could, we would have another 9-11.
Italy and the rest of Europe can kiss my ass. The only time they want to see America is when they need money or they need someone to shed blood for them. Europe, with a few exceptions, will do nothing to fight terrorism unless it lands in their back yard. They depend on the good ol U.S. of A to do the fighting for them. The next time somebody goosesteps across Europe, they can handle it themselves.
Our so called Allies will do nothing unless we lead the way. Unless we provide the manpower, blood and lets not forget the money.
I'm glad Italy did it but also embarrassed we are such hypocrites other nations have to hold our people accountable. The above attitude is exactly why some hate America. We're so damn arrogant we believe we are the only ones who have the right to kidnap innocent people and invade nations to occupy them. If someone doesn't care what the cia does then they have absolutely no room to criticize any other nation. When we let fear dictate our principles we effectively remove any room for any honorable ones.
So anyone working for the US should just be completely immune from the laws of the sovereign countries they're in and ignore international law?
Anyone opposing this is little more than a jingoistic idiot with no consideration of the greater impact of legalizing kidnapping and doing away with a justice system as "extraordinary" rendition does.