It Will Take 100 Years to Pay Off the Iraq War

[Wicked Jester]

Cheney said Iraq oil would pay for the war.

Will it take 100 years to pay down the $6 trillion Iraq cost?

Guess so ...

No, he didn't.....and that's a fact.

But then, I remember you from the ol' MSNBC board, and I see nothing has changed.

 

[drivebymedia]

By 2007, Crude was $147 and gasoline at $4.75.

Then came the Great Bush Crash.

 

[Mac1958]

It Will Take 100 Years to Pay Off the Iraq War

For thousands of American families who lost loved ones as a consequence of this failed and illegal war, the ‘debt’ will never be ‘paid off.’

Indeed.

The financial costs are secondary.

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[drivebymedia]

And what did the American taxpayer get in return for shelling out $6 trillion dollars?

NOTHING!

We didn't get shit! We paid out $6 trillion dollars and got nothing in return.

We got 400,000 dead and wounded American soldiers.

And a staggering debt to payout survivor benefits and medical care for 300,000 Iraq vets suffering from PTSD, and TBI (traumatic brain injury)

 

[Stephanie]

taking out dictators and the cost for that is only good when Obama does it, then they leave the people there all alone to fend off the wolves, that sounds so much more human, doesn't it

 

[drivebymedia]

taking out dictators and the cost for that is only good when Obama does it, then they leave the people there all alone to fend off the wolves, that sounds so much more human, doesn't it

...$6 trillion and counting

...100 years to pay it down

...5,000 dead Americans

...70,000 wounded Americans

...300,000 Americans suffering permanent brain damage

...1 million dead Iraqi women and children

...A stronger Iran

...A stronger Sunni

...China and Russia dominant in Iraq oil fields

...Israel still complaining it wants more American blood and dollars to protect it

 

[Billo_Really]

alot of government.

Well, you're right about that!

 

[healthmyths]

Cheney said Iraq oil would pay for the war.

Will it take 100 years to pay down the $6 trillion Iraq cost?

Guess so ...

Then it should take 200 years to pay for Obama's "stimulus," and the bill for Obamacare will never be paid off.

"LONG TERM"!!! REMEMBER this FAMOUS Obama budget comment???

Obama said: " And if we are able to slow the growth of health care costs by just one-tenth of 1 percent each year --
one-tenth of 1 percent -- it will actually reduce the deficit by $4 trillion over the long term."

Today's health care expenditure: $2,555,000,000,000. That's $2.5 trillion.

1/10th of 1 percent of $2.5 trillion is $2.5 billion Obama said would be used to reduce the deficit by $4 trillion over the long term..
Divide the $4 trillion deficit by $2.5 billion a year supposedly in savings .... and Obama's"long term? 1,600 years!

See this is where most of us critics are saying Obama is so out of touch with reality!
Simple math seems to confuse him as well as reality!

 

[Mac1958]

taking out dictators and the cost for that is only good when Obama does it, then they leave the people there all alone to fend off the wolves, that sounds so much more human, doesn't it

...$6 trillion and counting

...100 years to pay it down

...5,000 dead Americans

...70,000 wounded Americans

...300,000 Americans suffering permanent brain damage

...1 million dead Iraqi women and children

...A stronger Iran

...A stronger Sunni

...China and Russia dominant in Iraq oil fields

...Israel still complaining it wants more American blood and dollars to protect it

They're not trying to convince you, they're trying to convince themselves.

Imagine feeling like you have to do that.

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[Billo_Really]

We got 400,000 dead and wounded American soldiers.

And a staggering debt to payout survivor benefits and medical care for 300,000 Iraq vets suffering from PTSD, and TBI (traumatic brain injury)

Imagine how well we could of fixed up Walter Reed hospital with just 1% of that $6 trillion?

 

[Article 15]

The war dropped oil prices by 1/3rd. Over the 8 year war period that likely saved us triple the cost of the war. As soon as we pulled our troops out of Iraq on December 31, 2011 gas prices shot up 25%.

When we invaded Iraq oil price dropped 33%. That 33% drop in price times our USA annual 7.6 billion barrel oil consumption saved us $366 billion a year. Over the 8 years of the Iraq war that total oil savings is $2.9 trillion. So take out the ~$1 trillion cost of the Iraq war & we may be $1.9 trillion in the black.

Oil prices crashed 33% from $40 down to $27 after we invaded Iraq in March 2003.

As soon as we pulled our troops out of Iraq on December 31, 2011 gas prices shot up 25%.

^ funny stuff right there.

Just ignore that gas prices nearly tripled from March 2003 until peak prices in 2008 and you make a great argument.

 

[Jimbo]

Surely Iraq should make a sizable contribution to rebuilding its own country? Wars fought by men and women in these modern times are dictated by the Liberal Left who are too busy kowtowing to the enemy and tying our hands behind our respective backs with politically correct RoE crap rather than letting us fight these conflicts as they should be fought, therefore prolonging any and all conflicts and costing us all dearly...Financially and in human suffering.....

YES, the Liberal Left is the way to go folks...especially if you're a self hating, finger pointing dipsh*t who has a death wish and wants to commit cultural suicide......
All wars have to be paid for but it's the ruling elite who sit back and watch others die and get crippled for their stupid ideologies....
At least conservatives are not brain dead enough to think that spending more than you earn is a good way of getting rid of your debt........(that was caused by over spending in the first place)....

 

[zeke]

It is like the people that defend the Iraqi war live in a different universe. They really REALLY want to re write the history of the Iraqi war.

But when thye claim that gas prices went down during the war, they have gone beyond simply being mis informed to being absolutely amazingly stupid.

WTF is wrong with these rethugs? Why are they the liars that they are? Why can't they admit they fuked up and made a mistake about Iraq?

And to those that think it was worth the cost to get rid of Saddam, I would bet that the believers in that bullshit lost nothing in the effort. And they sure as hell didn't put their life on the line to get rid of Saddam.

 

[Mac1958]

It is like the people that defend the Iraqi war live in a different universe. They really REALLY want to re write the history of the Iraqi war.

But when thye claim that gas prices went down during the war, they have gone beyond simply being mis informed to being absolutely amazingly stupid.

WTF is wrong with these rethugs? Why are they the liars that they are? Why can't they admit they fuked up and made a mistake about Iraq?

And to those that think it was worth the cost to get rid of Saddam, I would bet that the believers in that bullshit lost nothing in the effort. And they sure as hell didn't put their life on the line to get rid of Saddam.

They're committed to defending and justifying their ideology, no matter what, even in the face of its horrific cost. The only question is whether they actually believe what they're saying, and there's simply no way to know that.

So we can only do two things: Observe them as they try to justify Iraq to themselves, and fight a repeat disaster in the future. That's about it. The lives and limbs and minds and dollars spent on Iraq are already gone.

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[zeke]

Surely Iraq should make a sizable contribution to rebuilding its own country? Wars fought by men and women in these modern times are dictated by the Liberal Left who are too busy kowtowing to the enemy and tying our hands behind our respective backs with politically correct RoE crap rather than letting us fight these conflicts as they should be fought, therefore prolonging any and all conflicts and costing us all dearly...Financially and in human suffering.....

YES, the Liberal Left is the way to go folks...especially if you're a self hating, finger pointing dipsh*t who has a death wish and wants to commit cultural suicide......
All wars have to be paid for but it's the ruling elite who sit back and watch others die and get crippled for their stupid ideologies....
At least conservatives are not brain dead enough to think that spending more than you earn is a good way of getting rid of your debt........(that was caused by over spending in the first place)....

You have a point you are trying to make? What might it be?

Or were you appaulding the Rethugs who wanted that war in Iraq so bad that they were willing to borrow every dollar spent on the war, with no plan to pay for it and absolutely no benefit to the American people.

That was really fuked up what the rethugs did. Wasn't it?

 

[healthmyths]

It Will Take 100 Years to Pay Off the Iraq War

For thousands of American families who lost loved ones as a consequence of this failed and illegal war, the ‘debt’ will never be ‘paid off.’

You realize the actual purpose of the Liberation of Iraq of 2003 lasted from 19 March 2003 to 1 May 2003, and signaled the start of the conflict that later came to be known as the Iraq War, which was dubbed Operation Iraqi Freedom by the United States. The invasion consisted of 21 days of major combat operations, in which a combined force of troops from the United States, the United Kingdom, Australia, and Poland, invaded Iraq and deposed the Ba'athist government of Saddam Hussein. The invasion phase consisted primarily of a conventionally-fought war which concluded with the capture of the Iraqi capital of Baghdad by American forces.
The objective was achieved .. so why did it cost 3,000 more lives and $600 billion ?
These COMMENTS are proven by Harvard studies to have contributed to the cost...
A Harvard study found here THE "EMBOLDENMENT EFFECT" asked:

"Are insurgents in Iraq emboldened by voices in the news media expressing dissent or calling for troop withdrawals from Iraq?
The short answer is YES!!! according to Radha Iyengar, a Robert Wood Johnson Scholar in health policy
research at Harvard and Jonathan Monten of the Belfer Center at the university's Kennedy School of Government.

STUDY ABSTRACT
Are insurgents affected by information on US casualty sensitivity? Using data on attacks and variation in access to international news across Iraqi provinces, we identify an “emboldenment” effect by comparing the rate of insurgent attacks in areas with higher and lower access to information about U.S news after public statements critical of the war. We find in periods after a spike in war-critical statements, insurgent attacks increases by 5-10 percent.

The results suggest that insurgent groups respond rationally to expected probability of US withdrawal.
On a related note, the New York Times reports that the media aren't paying as much attention to Iraq as they used to:
Media attention on Iraq began to wane after the first months of fighting, but as recently as the middle of last year, it was still the most-covered topic.
Since then, Iraq coverage by major American news sources has plummeted to about one-fifth of what it was last summer, according to the Project for Excellence in Journalism.
If the Harvard study is right, we may be looking at a virtuous circle: Less violence means less media coverage, which in turn means less violence, says the Wall Street Journal. Perhaps one day we'll wake up to discover that America won the war in Iraq months earlier, but no one noticed because the reporters were all busy with other things.

Victory in Iraq Day, November 22, 2008

So when these comments were posted and published.. will any of you be honest enough to admit, the comments certainly did not make US troops happy
and DEFINITELY did as the Harvard study stated: "emboldenment".. do more killings of troops over 6 more years!

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid(D) "The war is lost, the surge is not accomplishing anything " 40,800 Google results

U.S. Rep. John Murtha(D) "Our troops killed innocent civilians in cold blood,”
39,600 Google results
Senator Kerry (D) "American soldiers going into the homes of Iraqis in the dead of night, terrorizing kids and children." 92,500 Google results

Durbin (D) "must have been done by Nazis, Soviets"--action of Americans in the treatment of their prisoners. 127,000 Google results
Senator Obama said "troops are air-raiding villages and killing civilians," 94,300 Google results

So Iraq deaths and cost continued because the above remarks HELPED ONLY the terrorists and they were emboldened to prolong!

 

[DiamondDave]

trolling troll is still trolling

 

[drivebymedia]

Ten Years After ....


"Ten years after it began, the Iraq war still haunts the United States in the nearly 4,500 troops who died there; the more than 30,000 American wounded who have come home; the more than $2 trillion spent on combat operations and reconstruction, which inflated the deficit; and in the lessons learned about the limits of American leadership and power.



http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/20/opinion/ten-years-after-the-iraq-war-began.html?hp&_r=0

 

[drivebymedia]

It Will Take 100 Years to Pay Off the Iraq War

For thousands of American families who lost loved ones as a consequence of this failed and illegal war, the ‘debt’ will never be ‘paid off.’

You realize the actual purpose of the Liberation of Iraq of 2003 lasted from 19 March 2003 to 1 May 2003, and signaled the start of the conflict that later came to be known as the Iraq War, which was dubbed Operation Iraqi Freedom by the United States. The invasion consisted of 21 days of major combat operations, in which a combined force of troops from the United States, the United Kingdom, Australia, and Poland, invaded Iraq and deposed the Ba'athist government of Saddam Hussein. The invasion phase consisted primarily of a conventionally-fought war which concluded with the capture of the Iraqi capital of Baghdad by American forces.

The 21 day war is what Congress voted for - the 10 year war was Bush and Cheney's

 

[whitehall]

If history is any judge, the U.S. government will be paying for the Iraq and Afghanistan wars for the next century as service members and their families grapple with the sacrifices of combat.

An Associated Press analysis of federal payment records found that the government is still making monthly payments to relatives of Civil War veterans — 148 years after the conflict ended.



AP: Costs of US Wars Linger for Over 100 Years - ABC News

As I recall the Associated Press did everything in it's power to give aid and comfort to the enemy during the Iraq war. You couldn't tell the difference between the A.P. stories and Al-Jazeera. Democrats authorized the operation and then did everything they could to undermine the effort. Senate majority Harry Reid told America "the war is lost" just as the Troop surge was underway. Democrats snickered and joked about a full page ad (at a discount price courtesy of the Times) in the NY Times calling the US commander "betray-us" for no other reason than it rhymed with Petraeus.