It Was Done on Tobacco. It Can Be Done on Guns.

[GLASNOST]

The whole point of the 2nd amendment was to ensure the general population was armed with the latest weapons of war ...

And Christ walked on water too. Show me where it says just that in the 2nd amendment.

...... It does not state what specific weapons were to be protected ....

Exactly.

.... because the implication is that all weapons were always to be protected from any and all federal restrictions.

Show me where it says just that in the 2nd amendment

The point of the 2nd amendment is a blanket ban on any and all federal jurisdiction over any weapons.

Show me where it says just that in the 2nd amendment.

I know a guy who claims that square tyres will make your car go faster. Shall I give you his address to you can buy a set of them?

The summation of your argument is in your third statement, third word, in pink. THAT is the full basis of the whole shebang of your spin and it is not even supported in the Constitution. Congratulations! You get five out of five ....

 

[Blues Man]

you sound like the '''leftists''' [******] who argue with emotion and not common sense

Liberty is common sense.

The Bill of Rights is common sense.

Fascists trying to eliminate weapons that cause less than 1% of murders while ignoring inner city murders is an emotional response.

Keep digging

Now you got it!

To really impact our murder rate, you need to go after handguns which account for 2/3 of all gun deaths

But handguns are a sacred cow and can’t be touched. So we have to nibble at the edges and go after weapons that are used in mass shootings

Actually 2/3 of all gun deaths are suicides

Not all gun deaths are murders

Dead is still dead

And those that choose to die have that right

 

[harmonica]

you sound like the '''leftists''' [******] who argue with emotion and not common sense

Liberty is common sense.

The Bill of Rights is common sense.

Fascists trying to eliminate weapons that cause less than 1% of murders while ignoring inner city murders is an emotional response.

Keep digging

Now you got it!

To really impact our murder rate, you need to go after handguns which account for 2/3 of all gun deaths

But handguns are a sacred cow and can’t be touched. So we have to nibble at the edges and go after weapons that are used in mass shootings

Actually 2/3 of all gun deaths are suicides

Not all gun deaths are murders

Dead is still dead

and that doesn't even count non-fatal shootings

 

[Blues Man]

you sound like the '''leftists''' [******] who argue with emotion and not common sense

Liberty is common sense.

The Bill of Rights is common sense.

Fascists trying to eliminate weapons that cause less than 1% of murders while ignoring inner city murders is an emotional response.

Keep digging

Now you got it!

To really impact our murder rate, you need to go after handguns which account for 2/3 of all gun deaths

But handguns are a sacred cow and can’t be touched. So we have to nibble at the edges and go after weapons that are used in mass shootings

Actually 2/3 of all gun deaths are suicides

Not all gun deaths are murders

Dead is still dead

and that doesn't even count non-fatal shootings

You mean attempted murder?

That's still a crime

 

[GLASNOST]

you sound like the '''leftists''' [******] who argue with emotion and not common sense

Liberty is common sense.

The Bill of Rights is common sense.

Fascists trying to eliminate weapons that cause less than 1% of murders while ignoring inner city murders is an emotional response.

Keep digging

Now you got it!

To really impact our murder rate, you need to go after handguns which account for 2/3 of all gun deaths

But handguns are a sacred cow and can’t be touched. So we have to nibble at the edges and go after weapons that are used in mass shootings

Actually 2/3 of all gun deaths are suicides

Not all gun deaths are murders

Dead is still dead

and that doesn't even count non-fatal shootings

That's true. Just look at James Brady who suffered brain damage and was permanently disabled.

 

[Blues Man]

Liberty is common sense.

The Bill of Rights is common sense.

Fascists trying to eliminate weapons that cause less than 1% of murders while ignoring inner city murders is an emotional response.

Keep digging

Now you got it!

To really impact our murder rate, you need to go after handguns which account for 2/3 of all gun deaths

But handguns are a sacred cow and can’t be touched. So we have to nibble at the edges and go after weapons that are used in mass shootings

Actually 2/3 of all gun deaths are suicides

Not all gun deaths are murders

Dead is still dead

and that doesn't even count non-fatal shootings

That's true. Just look at James Brady who suffered brain damage and was permanently disabled.

Attempted murder is a crime.

Gee criminals shoot people who would have thought?

 

[GLASNOST]

Gee criminals shoot people who would have thought?

Yes. Although most people are shot by "good guys" criminals are responsible for a small percentage as well.

 

[rightwinger]

you sound like the '''leftists''' [******] who argue with emotion and not common sense

Liberty is common sense.

The Bill of Rights is common sense.

Fascists trying to eliminate weapons that cause less than 1% of murders while ignoring inner city murders is an emotional response.

Keep digging

Now you got it!

To really impact our murder rate, you need to go after handguns which account for 2/3 of all gun deaths

But handguns are a sacred cow and can’t be touched. So we have to nibble at the edges and go after weapons that are used in mass shootings

Actually 2/3 of all gun deaths are suicides

Not all gun deaths are murders

Dead is still dead

And those that choose to die have that right

Their loved ones don’t think so

 

[Blues Man]

Gee criminals shoot people who would have thought?

Yes. Although most people are shot by "good guys" criminals are responsible for a small percentage as well.

Wrong as usual

People who shoot at others for any reason other than self defense are not "good guys"

 

[Blues Man]

Liberty is common sense.

The Bill of Rights is common sense.

Fascists trying to eliminate weapons that cause less than 1% of murders while ignoring inner city murders is an emotional response.

Keep digging

Now you got it!

To really impact our murder rate, you need to go after handguns which account for 2/3 of all gun deaths

But handguns are a sacred cow and can’t be touched. So we have to nibble at the edges and go after weapons that are used in mass shootings

Actually 2/3 of all gun deaths are suicides

Not all gun deaths are murders

Dead is still dead

And those that choose to die have that right

Their loved ones don’t think so

You don't need permission from mommy to exercise your rights

 

[hadit]

A clear example of a blind squirrel finding a berry. Once in a great while gov't actions make sense and are of real value to most Americans. I would guess that 80% of Americans concur that smoking in public buildings is not a good thing.

OTOH, while I can still smoke a cigar on my deck I cannot on the beach just beyond the bulkhead … a matter of 2 feet. There is no authority that gov't will not abuse and none that lefties would not cede to them.

Smoke on your deck
Your wife will not allow you to smoke in the house

Point is the whole point of the thread is totally wrong because the government never tried to confiscate tobacco products or make them illegal to buy or own, and there was never any licensing or registration required. People are pretty much free to smoke as they want, and only have to avoid annoying others. The reduction in tobacco products was totally voluntary.
Government had nothing at all to do with it.

The Government is not confiscating guns now

Background checks are not confiscation

What is the ultimate goal, when it is proven that registration and licensing does nothing to reduce the number of deaths?

I will tell you. The same people will come out making the same arguments for confiscation, telling us that it's for our own good, and they just want to confiscate the black scary looking ones, and we're all stupid for thinking that they'll come for the others.

What has the leader of our country suggested to try and NOT eliminate, but reduce these mass killings? What was his great health care solution?? What has he done to help future generations as far as Climate change goes? Infrastructure?

What does that have to do with the reality that there are a significant number of people who will not ever stop trying to disarm America?

 

[Blues Man]

Gee criminals shoot people who would have thought?

Yes. Although most people are shot by "good guys" criminals are responsible for a small percentage as well.

Actually most gun crimes are committed by people who already have criminal records and therefore are ineligible to legally possess a gun

 

[edward37]

Smoke on your deck
Your wife will not allow you to smoke in the house

Point is the whole point of the thread is totally wrong because the government never tried to confiscate tobacco products or make them illegal to buy or own, and there was never any licensing or registration required. People are pretty much free to smoke as they want, and only have to avoid annoying others. The reduction in tobacco products was totally voluntary.
Government had nothing at all to do with it.

The Government is not confiscating guns now

Background checks are not confiscation

What is the ultimate goal, when it is proven that registration and licensing does nothing to reduce the number of deaths?

I will tell you. The same people will come out making the same arguments for confiscation, telling us that it's for our own good, and they just want to confiscate the black scary looking ones, and we're all stupid for thinking that they'll come for the others.

What has the leader of our country suggested to try and NOT eliminate, but reduce these mass killings? What was his great health care solution?? What has he done to help future generations as far as Climate change goes? Infrastructure?

What does that have to do with the reality that there are a significant number of people who will not ever stop trying to disarm America?

Just as there are a significant number of people who will always hate people of color .. NO ONE wants to disarm America That's just Republican clap trap Just trying to reduce the number of killings something it seems the NRA and Trump don't want to see

 

[2aguy]

Point is the whole point of the thread is totally wrong because the government never tried to confiscate tobacco products or make them illegal to buy or own, and there was never any licensing or registration required. People are pretty much free to smoke as they want, and only have to avoid annoying others. The reduction in tobacco products was totally voluntary.
Government had nothing at all to do with it.

The Government is not confiscating guns now

Background checks are not confiscation

What is the ultimate goal, when it is proven that registration and licensing does nothing to reduce the number of deaths?

I will tell you. The same people will come out making the same arguments for confiscation, telling us that it's for our own good, and they just want to confiscate the black scary looking ones, and we're all stupid for thinking that they'll come for the others.

What has the leader of our country suggested to try and NOT eliminate, but reduce these mass killings? What was his great health care solution?? What has he done to help future generations as far as Climate change goes? Infrastructure?

What does that have to do with the reality that there are a significant number of people who will not ever stop trying to disarm America?

Just as there are a significant number of people who will always hate people of color .. NO ONE wants to disarm America That's just Republican clap trap Just trying to reduce the number of killings something it seems the NRA and Trump don't want to see

beto, the pretty boy, just stated it in a national debate......and no one on stage disagreed with him.....trying to lie about this became a lot harder thanks to beto....

 

[2aguy]

Point is the whole point of the thread is totally wrong because the government never tried to confiscate tobacco products or make them illegal to buy or own, and there was never any licensing or registration required. People are pretty much free to smoke as they want, and only have to avoid annoying others. The reduction in tobacco products was totally voluntary.
Government had nothing at all to do with it.

The Government is not confiscating guns now

Background checks are not confiscation

What is the ultimate goal, when it is proven that registration and licensing does nothing to reduce the number of deaths?

I will tell you. The same people will come out making the same arguments for confiscation, telling us that it's for our own good, and they just want to confiscate the black scary looking ones, and we're all stupid for thinking that they'll come for the others.

What has the leader of our country suggested to try and NOT eliminate, but reduce these mass killings? What was his great health care solution?? What has he done to help future generations as far as Climate change goes? Infrastructure?

What does that have to do with the reality that there are a significant number of people who will not ever stop trying to disarm America?

Just as there are a significant number of people who will always hate people of color .. NO ONE wants to disarm America That's just Republican clap trap Just trying to reduce the number of killings something it seems the NRA and Trump don't want to see

Banning AR-15s doesn't do that.......mass shooters can just use pistols or shotguns...then you will be back for those.....and the AR-15 is not the weapon of choice of criminals in the U.S........actual military weapons are the weapon of choice for european criminals....

 

[Auld Phart]

 

[edward37]

The Government is not confiscating guns now

Background checks are not confiscation

What is the ultimate goal, when it is proven that registration and licensing does nothing to reduce the number of deaths?

I will tell you. The same people will come out making the same arguments for confiscation, telling us that it's for our own good, and they just want to confiscate the black scary looking ones, and we're all stupid for thinking that they'll come for the others.

What has the leader of our country suggested to try and NOT eliminate, but reduce these mass killings? What was his great health care solution?? What has he done to help future generations as far as Climate change goes? Infrastructure?

What does that have to do with the reality that there are a significant number of people who will not ever stop trying to disarm America?

Just as there are a significant number of people who will always hate people of color .. NO ONE wants to disarm America That's just Republican clap trap Just trying to reduce the number of killings something it seems the NRA and Trump don't want to see

Banning AR-15s doesn't do that.......mass shooters can just use pistols or shotguns...then you will be back for those.....and the AR-15 is not the weapon of choice of criminals in the U.S........actual military weapons are the weapon of choice for european criminals....

Just in passing While I like most of Beto's talk if he persists in his no gun talk he has ZERO chance of becoming the Dem rep

 

[2aguy]

What is the ultimate goal, when it is proven that registration and licensing does nothing to reduce the number of deaths?

I will tell you. The same people will come out making the same arguments for confiscation, telling us that it's for our own good, and they just want to confiscate the black scary looking ones, and we're all stupid for thinking that they'll come for the others.

What has the leader of our country suggested to try and NOT eliminate, but reduce these mass killings? What was his great health care solution?? What has he done to help future generations as far as Climate change goes? Infrastructure?

What does that have to do with the reality that there are a significant number of people who will not ever stop trying to disarm America?

Just as there are a significant number of people who will always hate people of color .. NO ONE wants to disarm America That's just Republican clap trap Just trying to reduce the number of killings something it seems the NRA and Trump don't want to see

Banning AR-15s doesn't do that.......mass shooters can just use pistols or shotguns...then you will be back for those.....and the AR-15 is not the weapon of choice of criminals in the U.S........actual military weapons are the weapon of choice for european criminals....

Just in passing While I like most of Beto's talk if he persists in his no gun talk he has ZERO chance of becoming the Dem rep

His chance is already less than zero...one of the old white democrats is going to get it.....

He isn't the only one who wants to ban guns, he is the only one stupid enough to say it to a national audience....

 

[edward37]

Biden has 40 years worth of experience in government an honest man a good man ,,all the qualities this scum in our WH now doesn't have

 

[2aguy]

Biden has 40 years worth of experience in government an honest man a good man ,,all the qualities this scum in our WH now doesn't have

He is not an honest or good man....he routinely lies and slanders the poor Truck Driver involved in his wife and daughters accidental death, he used his position as V.P. to help his son get billion dollar deals with the Chinese and other countries and he had to stop running one time for President because he plagarized an entire speech.......and when he has females on his Secret Service detail he swims in the nude...he is a vile human being.

You are delusional...