Israel Seizes Solar Panels Donated to Palestinians, Smashes Electronics

[Darkwind]

Israel seizes solar panels donated to Palestinians by Dutch government

Installed without Permits.
Life's a bitch, ain't it.

Why should Palestinians be required to get permits from foreign assholes to build on their own land?

Everyone needs a permit.

Palestinians need not apply.

Palestinians have no land. In fact, they should be forced marched to Syria and told that they will be shot if they return.

They have plenty of land

I'm sure they do, but it is located in Syria or elsewhere.

 

[Roudy]

It is from the term "Philistines" that the name "Palestinians" has been taken. Actually, the ancient Philistines and modern Palestinians have something in common: both are invaders from other lands! That is precisely the meaning of their name, that is not an ethnic denomination but an adjective applied to them: Peleshet, from the verb "pelesh", "dividers", "penetrators" or "invaders". The Philistines were a confederation of non-Semitic peoples coming from Crete, the Aegean Islands and Asia Minor, also known as "Sea Peoples". The main tribes were Shekelesh, Shardana, Tsikel or Thekker, Akhaiusha or Ekwesh, Danauna or Denyen, Masa or Meshuesh, Uashesh, Teresh or Tursha, Keshesh or Karkisha, Lukka or Rukka, and Labu. The original homeland of the group that ruled the Philistine federation, namely the "Pelesati", was the island of Crete. When the Minoic civilization collapsed, also the Minoic culture disappeared from Crete, as invaders from Greece took control of the island. These ancient Cretans arrived in Southern Canaan and were known as "Peleshtim" by Hebrews and Canaanites (that became allied to fight the invaders). They also invaded Egypt and were defeated by Pharaoh Ramose III in the 12th century b.c.e. The Philistines were organized in city-states, being the most important the Pentapolis: Gaza, Ashdod, Ashkelon, Gath and Ekron, and their territory was close to the Mediterranean coast, a little longer and broader than the present-day "Gaza Strip" - not the whole Judah, they never reached Hevron, Jerusalem or Yericho!

Those Sea Peoples that invaded Egypt were expelled towards other Mediterranean lands and did not evolve into any Arab people, but disappeared as distinguishable groups in Roman times. Those dwelling in Canaan were defeated by King David and reduced to insignificance, the best warriors among them were chosen as David's bodyguard. The remaining Philistines still dwelling in Gaza were subdued by Sargon II of Assyria and after that time, they disappeared definitively from history. They are no longer mentioned since the return of the Jewish exiles from Babylon.

Conclusion: there is not one single person in the world who may be able to prove Philistine lineage, yet, if Palestinians insist, they have to recognize themselves as invaders in Israel, and then they must ask Greece to return them back the Isle of Crete! The Philistines are extinct and claims to alleged links with them are utterly false as they are historically impossible to establish. In any case, claiming a Philistine heritage is idle because it cannot legitimate any land in which they were foreign occupants and not native dwellers. Philistines were not Arabs, and the only feature in common between both peoples is that in Israel they should be regarded as invaders, Philistines from the sea and Arabs from the wilderness. They do not want Jerusalem because it is their city, which is not and never has been, they simply want to take her from the Jews, to whom she has belonged for three thousand years. The Philistines wanted to take from Israelites the Holy Ark of the Covenant, modern so-called Palestinians want to take from them the Holy City of the Covenant.

The Palestinians: No, they are not any ancient people, but claim to be. They were born in a single day, after a war that lasted six days in 1967 c.e. If they were true Canaanites, they would speak Hebrew and demand from Syria to give them back their occupied homeland in Lebanon, but they are not. If they were Philistines, they would claim back the Isle of Crete from Greece and would recognize that they have nothing to do with the Land of Israel, and would ask excuses to Israel for having stolen the Ark of the Covenant.

If you are going to cut and paste whole items from other peoples blog, you should at least give a link or it looks like plagiarism Im Nin'alu
Palestinian Myths

Nobody is claiming that, there is a link, idiot.

 

[fanger]

It is from the term "Philistines" that the name "Palestinians" has been taken. Actually, the ancient Philistines and modern Palestinians have something in common: both are invaders from other lands! That is precisely the meaning of their name, that is not an ethnic denomination but an adjective applied to them: Peleshet, from the verb "pelesh", "dividers", "penetrators" or "invaders". The Philistines were a confederation of non-Semitic peoples coming from Crete, the Aegean Islands and Asia Minor, also known as "Sea Peoples". The main tribes were Shekelesh, Shardana, Tsikel or Thekker, Akhaiusha or Ekwesh, Danauna or Denyen, Masa or Meshuesh, Uashesh, Teresh or Tursha, Keshesh or Karkisha, Lukka or Rukka, and Labu. The original homeland of the group that ruled the Philistine federation, namely the "Pelesati", was the island of Crete. When the Minoic civilization collapsed, also the Minoic culture disappeared from Crete, as invaders from Greece took control of the island. These ancient Cretans arrived in Southern Canaan and were known as "Peleshtim" by Hebrews and Canaanites (that became allied to fight the invaders). They also invaded Egypt and were defeated by Pharaoh Ramose III in the 12th century b.c.e. The Philistines were organized in city-states, being the most important the Pentapolis: Gaza, Ashdod, Ashkelon, Gath and Ekron, and their territory was close to the Mediterranean coast, a little longer and broader than the present-day "Gaza Strip" - not the whole Judah, they never reached Hevron, Jerusalem or Yericho!

Those Sea Peoples that invaded Egypt were expelled towards other Mediterranean lands and did not evolve into any Arab people, but disappeared as distinguishable groups in Roman times. Those dwelling in Canaan were defeated by King David and reduced to insignificance, the best warriors among them were chosen as David's bodyguard. The remaining Philistines still dwelling in Gaza were subdued by Sargon II of Assyria and after that time, they disappeared definitively from history. They are no longer mentioned since the return of the Jewish exiles from Babylon.

Conclusion: there is not one single person in the world who may be able to prove Philistine lineage, yet, if Palestinians insist, they have to recognize themselves as invaders in Israel, and then they must ask Greece to return them back the Isle of Crete! The Philistines are extinct and claims to alleged links with them are utterly false as they are historically impossible to establish. In any case, claiming a Philistine heritage is idle because it cannot legitimate any land in which they were foreign occupants and not native dwellers. Philistines were not Arabs, and the only feature in common between both peoples is that in Israel they should be regarded as invaders, Philistines from the sea and Arabs from the wilderness. They do not want Jerusalem because it is their city, which is not and never has been, they simply want to take her from the Jews, to whom she has belonged for three thousand years. The Philistines wanted to take from Israelites the Holy Ark of the Covenant, modern so-called Palestinians want to take from them the Holy City of the Covenant.

The Palestinians: No, they are not any ancient people, but claim to be. They were born in a single day, after a war that lasted six days in 1967 c.e. If they were true Canaanites, they would speak Hebrew and demand from Syria to give them back their occupied homeland in Lebanon, but they are not. If they were Philistines, they would claim back the Isle of Crete from Greece and would recognize that they have nothing to do with the Land of Israel, and would ask excuses to Israel for having stolen the Ark of the Covenant.

If you are going to cut and paste whole items from other peoples blog, you should at least give a link or it looks like plagiarism Im Nin'alu
Palestinian Myths

Nobody is claiming that, there is a link, idiot.

I claim that, lets see you posted no link

 

[Auld Phart]

It is from the term "Philistines" that the name "Palestinians" has been taken. Actually, the ancient Philistines and modern Palestinians have something in common: both are invaders from other lands! That is precisely the meaning of their name, that is not an ethnic denomination but an adjective applied to them: Peleshet, from the verb "pelesh", "dividers", "penetrators" or "invaders". The Philistines were a confederation of non-Semitic peoples coming from Crete, the Aegean Islands and Asia Minor, also known as "Sea Peoples". The main tribes were Shekelesh, Shardana, Tsikel or Thekker, Akhaiusha or Ekwesh, Danauna or Denyen, Masa or Meshuesh, Uashesh, Teresh or Tursha, Keshesh or Karkisha, Lukka or Rukka, and Labu. The original homeland of the group that ruled the Philistine federation, namely the "Pelesati", was the island of Crete. When the Minoic civilization collapsed, also the Minoic culture disappeared from Crete, as invaders from Greece took control of the island. These ancient Cretans arrived in Southern Canaan and were known as "Peleshtim" by Hebrews and Canaanites (that became allied to fight the invaders). They also invaded Egypt and were defeated by Pharaoh Ramose III in the 12th century b.c.e. The Philistines were organized in city-states, being the most important the Pentapolis: Gaza, Ashdod, Ashkelon, Gath and Ekron, and their territory was close to the Mediterranean coast, a little longer and broader than the present-day "Gaza Strip" - not the whole Judah, they never reached Hevron, Jerusalem or Yericho!

Those Sea Peoples that invaded Egypt were expelled towards other Mediterranean lands and did not evolve into any Arab people, but disappeared as distinguishable groups in Roman times. Those dwelling in Canaan were defeated by King David and reduced to insignificance, the best warriors among them were chosen as David's bodyguard. The remaining Philistines still dwelling in Gaza were subdued by Sargon II of Assyria and after that time, they disappeared definitively from history. They are no longer mentioned since the return of the Jewish exiles from Babylon.

Conclusion: there is not one single person in the world who may be able to prove Philistine lineage, yet, if Palestinians insist, they have to recognize themselves as invaders in Israel, and then they must ask Greece to return them back the Isle of Crete! The Philistines are extinct and claims to alleged links with them are utterly false as they are historically impossible to establish. In any case, claiming a Philistine heritage is idle because it cannot legitimate any land in which they were foreign occupants and not native dwellers. Philistines were not Arabs, and the only feature in common between both peoples is that in Israel they should be regarded as invaders, Philistines from the sea and Arabs from the wilderness. They do not want Jerusalem because it is their city, which is not and never has been, they simply want to take her from the Jews, to whom she has belonged for three thousand years. The Philistines wanted to take from Israelites the Holy Ark of the Covenant, modern so-called Palestinians want to take from them the Holy City of the Covenant.

The Palestinians: No, they are not any ancient people, but claim to be. They were born in a single day, after a war that lasted six days in 1967 c.e. If they were true Canaanites, they would speak Hebrew and demand from Syria to give them back their occupied homeland in Lebanon, but they are not. If they were Philistines, they would claim back the Isle of Crete from Greece and would recognize that they have nothing to do with the Land of Israel, and would ask excuses to Israel for having stolen the Ark of the Covenant.

"Copyright. Link Each "Copy & Paste" to It's Source. Only paste a small to medium section of the material."

 

[CMike]

Israel is doing everything it can to ethnically cleans the Palestinians from area C. Israel cannot politically get away with just put everyone on trucks and carry them away.

Israel evicts them under the radar by preventing or destroying homes, and sources of food, water, and electricity. Unable to live without those necessities they move (on their own, of course) to one of the bantustans.

No one is Area C is unable to obtain food and water, so let's not be dramatic. There aren't even many issues with education and medical care, from my understanding. There are issues with electricity and with sewage and garbage removal.

So what do you think the solution to this problem is? Should Israel be expected to provide infrastructure to all 242 villages?

Perhaps the arab settlers should use all the billions of dollars they get for humanitarian aid for humanitarian aid and not for terror activities.

 

[Eloy]

The Israelis are up to an obvious trick in how they justify the thieving and destruction of much needed infrastructure in the Occupied Territories because they say building permits from them are necessary but these permits are very rarely given. Therefore, the Palestinian people have to go without homes and electricity. This is not unlike how the Jew Shylock ruthlessly demanded a pound of flesh from Antonio. No matter how unreasonable the request by the Israelis for the proper papers, they will have the solar panels. The Israelis pretend that the building regulations of the occupying country take precedence over international humanitarian law. Such is the claim of the Israelis.

Why European Union countries bother to have dealings with such manifest snakes and scofflaws is increasingly indefensible. Count on the Dutch and other EU countries and humanitarian organizations to disregard what the Israelis say and judge their permits as meaningless.

 

[Shusha]

Perhaps the arab settlers should use all the billions of dollars they get for humanitarian aid for humanitarian aid and not for terror activities.

Well, yes. Of course they should.

But, in this case, when they do, Israel is destroying that humanitarian aid. Israel seems to be in the wrong here.

 

[Shusha]

The Israelis are up to an obvious trick in how they justify the thieving and destruction of much needed infrastructure in the Occupied Territories because they say building permits from them are necessary but these permits are very rarely given.

Permits are symptoms of problems, not the problems themselves.

The real problem is Israel making unilateral decisions about those 242 communities (or rather trying to maintain the status quo and NOT make decisions about those communities). Israel is stuck between a rock and a hard place here. If she incorporates any of these communities into Israel by assuming responsibility for them, she is accused of stealing land and has to deal with a hostile population. If she cuts them loose and turns them over to the PA, she is accused of failing to provide for the population.

Personally, I think she should do it anyway. Take all of the Area C communities she intends to keep and bring them all the way up to Israeli standards, give them Israeli citizenship, economic assistance, anything they ask for. Cut the rest loose and walk away from them.

But that pre-supposes a two state solution.

 

[Roudy]

It is from the term "Philistines" that the name "Palestinians" has been taken. Actually, the ancient Philistines and modern Palestinians have something in common: both are invaders from other lands! That is precisely the meaning of their name, that is not an ethnic denomination but an adjective applied to them: Peleshet, from the verb "pelesh", "dividers", "penetrators" or "invaders". The Philistines were a confederation of non-Semitic peoples coming from Crete, the Aegean Islands and Asia Minor, also known as "Sea Peoples". The main tribes were Shekelesh, Shardana, Tsikel or Thekker, Akhaiusha or Ekwesh, Danauna or Denyen, Masa or Meshuesh, Uashesh, Teresh or Tursha, Keshesh or Karkisha, Lukka or Rukka, and Labu. The original homeland of the group that ruled the Philistine federation, namely the "Pelesati", was the island of Crete. When the Minoic civilization collapsed, also the Minoic culture disappeared from Crete, as invaders from Greece took control of the island. These ancient Cretans arrived in Southern Canaan and were known as "Peleshtim" by Hebrews and Canaanites (that became allied to fight the invaders). They also invaded Egypt and were defeated by Pharaoh Ramose III in the 12th century b.c.e. The Philistines were organized in city-states, being the most important the Pentapolis: Gaza, Ashdod, Ashkelon, Gath and Ekron, and their territory was close to the Mediterranean coast, a little longer and broader than the present-day "Gaza Strip" - not the whole Judah, they never reached Hevron, Jerusalem or Yericho!

Those Sea Peoples that invaded Egypt were expelled towards other Mediterranean lands and did not evolve into any Arab people, but disappeared as distinguishable groups in Roman times. Those dwelling in Canaan were defeated by King David and reduced to insignificance, the best warriors among them were chosen as David's bodyguard. The remaining Philistines still dwelling in Gaza were subdued by Sargon II of Assyria and after that time, they disappeared definitively from history. They are no longer mentioned since the return of the Jewish exiles from Babylon.

Conclusion: there is not one single person in the world who may be able to prove Philistine lineage, yet, if Palestinians insist, they have to recognize themselves as invaders in Israel, and then they must ask Greece to return them back the Isle of Crete! The Philistines are extinct and claims to alleged links with them are utterly false as they are historically impossible to establish. In any case, claiming a Philistine heritage is idle because it cannot legitimate any land in which they were foreign occupants and not native dwellers. Philistines were not Arabs, and the only feature in common between both peoples is that in Israel they should be regarded as invaders, Philistines from the sea and Arabs from the wilderness. They do not want Jerusalem because it is their city, which is not and never has been, they simply want to take her from the Jews, to whom she has belonged for three thousand years. The Philistines wanted to take from Israelites the Holy Ark of the Covenant, modern so-called Palestinians want to take from them the Holy City of the Covenant.

The Palestinians: No, they are not any ancient people, but claim to be. They were born in a single day, after a war that lasted six days in 1967 c.e. If they were true Canaanites, they would speak Hebrew and demand from Syria to give them back their occupied homeland in Lebanon, but they are not. If they were Philistines, they would claim back the Isle of Crete from Greece and would recognize that they have nothing to do with the Land of Israel, and would ask excuses to Israel for having stolen the Ark of the Covenant.

If you are going to cut and paste whole items from other peoples blog, you should at least give a link or it looks like plagiarism Im Nin'alu
Palestinian Myths

Nobody is claiming that, there is a link, idiot.

I claim that, lets see you posted no link

The whiny IslamoNazi asswipe that you are, you reported it and the mods didn't remove it. Which means your claim is wrong. Eat some more Khara, heyvoun.

 

[Roudy]

The Israelis are up to an obvious trick in how they justify the thieving and destruction of much needed infrastructure in the Occupied Territories because they say building permits from them are necessary but these permits are very rarely given. Therefore, the Palestinian people have to go without homes and electricity. This is not unlike how the Jew Shylock ruthlessly demanded a pound of flesh from Antonio. No matter how unreasonable the request by the Israelis for the proper papers, they will have the solar panels. The Israelis pretend that the building regulations of the occupying country take precedence over international humanitarian law. Such is the claim of the Israelis.

Why European Union countries bother to have dealings with such manifest snakes and scofflaws is increasingly indefensible. Count on the Dutch and other EU countries and humanitarian organizations to disregard what the Israelis say and judge their permits as meaningless.

"Jew Shylock demanded a pound of flesh..." Wow, two paragraphs and five antisemtic canards. What an accomplished dirtbag antisemite you are. Which Islamic Madrassa did you get your degree from?

 

[Eloy]

The Israelis are up to an obvious trick in how they justify the thieving and destruction of much needed infrastructure in the Occupied Territories because they say building permits from them are necessary but these permits are very rarely given.

Permits are symptoms of problems, not the problems themselves.

The real problem is Israel making unilateral decisions about those 242 communities (or rather trying to maintain the status quo and NOT make decisions about those communities). Israel is stuck between a rock and a hard place here. If she incorporates any of these communities into Israel by assuming responsibility for them, she is accused of stealing land and has to deal with a hostile population. If she cuts them loose and turns them over to the PA, she is accused of failing to provide for the population.

Personally, I think she should do it anyway. Take all of the Area C communities she intends to keep and bring them all the way up to Israeli standards, give them Israeli citizenship, economic assistance, anything they ask for. Cut the rest loose and walk away from them.

But that pre-supposes a two state solution.

I believe there are some in Israel who are on the point of doing as you suggest but there are others, the majority I think, who will hold out for all of Judea and Sumeria to be incorporated into Israel. Your suggestion is not acceptable in any case to the Palestinians either because no occupied land should belong to Israel without and exchange of land with equal value and resources. This would be a pipe dream.

 

[rylah]

Solar Panels is the key issue, and the solution.

However if we look at the situation from a wider perspective, we should remind ourselves of the PA debt to the Israeli Electric company. This is the only company that provides electricity for all sides.

The PA's debt to the IEC = 530,000,000$ (Sept 2016)
At that time they agreed to pay 130$mil. with the condition of erasing another 130$mil.

Now is it good that there's this monopoly in Israel? Yes and No, it's a different subject. But even when an Israeli get a permit, which is mostly done by quotas, the deal is that You pay for the panels, and You produce Your electricity almost for free, because the rest of the electricity produced is 'resold' to the company.
Not many Israelis have those panels on their houses, I don't know any.
There're some 8 million Israelis, how much is 13,000,000$/8?
How much is 530,000,000/8?

Just to put in context.

 

[rylah]

Solution for resources are such as the Solar Panels.
And Israel is the place to get those solutions, for water, electricity and other spheres of economy. And I can understand they want to go around Israel, but as already said... there's the 500,000,000$

 

[P F Tinmore]

Solar Panels is the key issue, and the solution.

However if we look at the situation from a wider perspective, we should remind ourselves of the PA debt to the Israeli Electric company. This is the only company that provides electricity for all sides.

The PA's debt to the IEC = 530,000,000$ (Sept 2016)
At that time they agreed to pay 130$mil. with the condition of erasing another 130$mil.

Now is it good that there's this monopoly in Israel? Yes and No, it's a different subject. But even when an Israeli get a permit, which is mostly done by quotas, the deal is that You pay for the panels, and You produce Your electricity almost for free, because the rest of the electricity produced is 'resold' to the company.
Not many Israelis have those panels on their houses, I don't know any.
There're some 8 million Israelis, how much is 13,000,000$/8?
How much is 530,000,000/8?

Just to put in context.

None of that debt was accrued by that village so that does not matter.

The only reason Israel does this is because they do not want the Palestinians to have anything. There is no other reason.

 

[rylah]

Solar Panels is the key issue, and the solution.

However if we look at the situation from a wider perspective, we should remind ourselves of the PA debt to the Israeli Electric company. This is the only company that provides electricity for all sides.

The PA's debt to the IEC = 530,000,000$ (Sept 2016)
At that time they agreed to pay 130$mil. with the condition of erasing another 130$mil.

Now is it good that there's this monopoly in Israel? Yes and No, it's a different subject. But even when an Israeli get a permit, which is mostly done by quotas, the deal is that You pay for the panels, and You produce Your electricity almost for free, because the rest of the electricity produced is 'resold' to the company.
Not many Israelis have those panels on their houses, I don't know any.
There're some 8 million Israelis, how much is 13,000,000$/8?
How much is 530,000,000/8?

Just to put in context.

None of that debt was accrued by that village so that does not matter.

The only reason Israel does this is because they do not want the Palestinians to have anything. There is no other reason.

It has everything to do with it. All nations pay for debts that were accumulated by their govt. in their centers. Israeli's from a village in the north pay for the debt of Jerusalem and Beer-Sheba.

Jubbet al-Dhib is a Palestinian village.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Solar Panels is the key issue, and the solution.

However if we look at the situation from a wider perspective, we should remind ourselves of the PA debt to the Israeli Electric company. This is the only company that provides electricity for all sides.

The PA's debt to the IEC = 530,000,000$ (Sept 2016)
At that time they agreed to pay 130$mil. with the condition of erasing another 130$mil.

Now is it good that there's this monopoly in Israel? Yes and No, it's a different subject. But even when an Israeli get a permit, which is mostly done by quotas, the deal is that You pay for the panels, and You produce Your electricity almost for free, because the rest of the electricity produced is 'resold' to the company.
Not many Israelis have those panels on their houses, I don't know any.
There're some 8 million Israelis, how much is 13,000,000$/8?
How much is 530,000,000/8?

Just to put in context.

None of that debt was accrued by that village so that does not matter.

The only reason Israel does this is because they do not want the Palestinians to have anything. There is no other reason.

It has everything to do with it. All nations pay for debts that were accumulated by their govt. in their centers. Israeli's from a village in the north pay for the debt of Jerusalem and Beer-Sheba.

Jubbet al-Dhib is a Palestinian village.

What does that have to do with getting power at no cost to Israel? Why should they care?

 

[fanger]

Solar Panels is the key issue, and the solution.

However if we look at the situation from a wider perspective, we should remind ourselves of the PA debt to the Israeli Electric company. This is the only company that provides electricity for all sides.

The PA's debt to the IEC = 530,000,000$ (Sept 2016)
At that time they agreed to pay 130$mil. with the condition of erasing another 130$mil.

Now is it good that there's this monopoly in Israel? Yes and No, it's a different subject. But even when an Israeli get a permit, which is mostly done by quotas, the deal is that You pay for the panels, and You produce Your electricity almost for free, because the rest of the electricity produced is 'resold' to the company.
Not many Israelis have those panels on their houses, I don't know any.
There're some 8 million Israelis, how much is 13,000,000$/8?
How much is 530,000,000/8?

Just to put in context.

None of that debt was accrued by that village so that does not matter.

The only reason Israel does this is because they do not want the Palestinians to have anything. There is no other reason.

It has everything to do with it. All nations pay for debts that were accumulated by their govt. in their centers. Israeli's from a village in the north pay for the debt of Jerusalem and Beer-Sheba.

Jubbet al-Dhib is a Palestinian village.

The destruction of solar panels benefitted whom?

 

[rylah]

Solar Panels is the key issue, and the solution.

However if we look at the situation from a wider perspective, we should remind ourselves of the PA debt to the Israeli Electric company. This is the only company that provides electricity for all sides.

The PA's debt to the IEC = 530,000,000$ (Sept 2016)
At that time they agreed to pay 130$mil. with the condition of erasing another 130$mil.

Now is it good that there's this monopoly in Israel? Yes and No, it's a different subject. But even when an Israeli get a permit, which is mostly done by quotas, the deal is that You pay for the panels, and You produce Your electricity almost for free, because the rest of the electricity produced is 'resold' to the company.
Not many Israelis have those panels on their houses, I don't know any.
There're some 8 million Israelis, how much is 13,000,000$/8?
How much is 530,000,000/8?

Just to put in context.

None of that debt was accrued by that village so that does not matter.

The only reason Israel does this is because they do not want the Palestinians to have anything. There is no other reason.

It has everything to do with it. All nations pay for debts that were accumulated by their govt. in their centers. Israeli's from a village in the north pay for the debt of Jerusalem and Beer-Sheba.

Jubbet al-Dhib is a Palestinian village.

What does that have to do with getting power at no cost to Israel? Why should they care?

The only reason for the PA to pay the IEC 530$mil debt, is because IEC produces electricity for the PA.
The issue could've been solved yesterday, with chipping in from Abass', Mashal's or even Arafat's personal bank accounts. Each one of them has billions.

 

[rylah]

Solar Panels is the key issue, and the solution.

However if we look at the situation from a wider perspective, we should remind ourselves of the PA debt to the Israeli Electric company. This is the only company that provides electricity for all sides.

The PA's debt to the IEC = 530,000,000$ (Sept 2016)
At that time they agreed to pay 130$mil. with the condition of erasing another 130$mil.

Now is it good that there's this monopoly in Israel? Yes and No, it's a different subject. But even when an Israeli get a permit, which is mostly done by quotas, the deal is that You pay for the panels, and You produce Your electricity almost for free, because the rest of the electricity produced is 'resold' to the company.
Not many Israelis have those panels on their houses, I don't know any.
There're some 8 million Israelis, how much is 13,000,000$/8?
How much is 530,000,000/8?

Just to put in context.

None of that debt was accrued by that village so that does not matter.

The only reason Israel does this is because they do not want the Palestinians to have anything. There is no other reason.

It has everything to do with it. All nations pay for debts that were accumulated by their govt. in their centers. Israeli's from a village in the north pay for the debt of Jerusalem and Beer-Sheba.

Jubbet al-Dhib is a Palestinian village.

The destruction of solar panels benefitted whom?

If my neighbor creates a high power electric system, and begins to circulate it without permission or professional QC, his next step is circulating this power along other neighborhoods. He didn't really create an isolated system, and he eventually will end up using a shared infrastructure.

This is very problematic for both sides.
The nationality of the guys who installed it is not relevant. It wasn't coordinated.
Why not put a fair amount of money, let's take the cost of 50 such systems, and invest in a good team of real lawyers instead?
Go directly to the privately owned IEC. This could solve it for much more Palestinians than just one village and at a lower price.

Why?
Because when You pay Your debts people talk to You differently.
And You're even able to create for them financial incentives to create projects in wider ranges than just being...a 'personal account'. The PA really has bad management, they manage their pockets better.

 

[Eloy]

Solar Panels is the key issue, and the solution.

However if we look at the situation from a wider perspective, we should remind ourselves of the PA debt to the Israeli Electric company. This is the only company that provides electricity for all sides.

The PA's debt to the IEC = 530,000,000$ (Sept 2016)
At that time they agreed to pay 130$mil. with the condition of erasing another 130$mil.

Now is it good that there's this monopoly in Israel? Yes and No, it's a different subject. But even when an Israeli get a permit, which is mostly done by quotas, the deal is that You pay for the panels, and You produce Your electricity almost for free, because the rest of the electricity produced is 'resold' to the company.
Not many Israelis have those panels on their houses, I don't know any.
There're some 8 million Israelis, how much is 13,000,000$/8?
How much is 530,000,000/8?

Just to put in context.

None of that debt was accrued by that village so that does not matter.

The only reason Israel does this is because they do not want the Palestinians to have anything. There is no other reason.

It has everything to do with it. All nations pay for debts that were accumulated by their govt. in their centers. Israeli's from a village in the north pay for the debt of Jerusalem and Beer-Sheba.

Jubbet al-Dhib is a Palestinian village.

The destruction of solar panels benefitted whom?

The thieving and destruction is seen by the Israelis as a benefit because it keeps the Palestinians beaten down and reinforces their claim of jurisdiction over the West Bank, including East Jerusalem.