Dr Grump
Platinum Member
Says the man who believes murdering women and children is dandy.
Both sides are doing that....
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Says the man who believes murdering women and children is dandy.
No, I mean both have lived in the area since Adam...and they seem to hate each other's guts
you know, interestingly, my son's school has a huge arab population. and he always says that THEY are the most like the jews and asked me why jews and arabs have such problems. that's when i told him it was sibling rivalry.
but here in ny, jews and arabs seem to get along fine. it's the whole "inheritance" thing... goes back to isaac and ishmael.
I run into Arabs very often in business and I never have a problem with them. In discussions it is amazing how similar the two religions are, sometimes using the same metaphors to describe legal concepts. Traditionally, like under the Ottomans, the Jews did very well, better than under the Christians in Europe. It is a darn shame, but something I lay at the feet of the Zionists.
Look, I will never defend Hamas or Hizbollah, and while they exist, the chances of peace are remote.
I just think if the Israelis got rid of ALL their settlements on the WB and East Jerusalem, and let the Palestinians have them, then there are no more excuses. At present one faction runs Gaza, the other the WB...
I have no time for Islam or Hamas/Hizbollah, but neither do I for hte Jewish settlers on the WB..
You obviously don't get it. There are always excuses. If the Palis get the west bank, then they want E.Jerusalem too. If they get EJ, then they want Jaffa. If they get Jaffa, then they want Tel Aviv.
You are dealing with people who have been told since infancy that all their problems come from the Jews. Get rid of the Jews and your problems are over. Their leadership must maintain this fiction to cover over their own kleptocracy and incompetence. So there is always another demand over the horizon. There is no negotiating with people like that.
Before Israel the indigenous Muslims, Christians, and Jews live in peace in Palestine. With Israel there has been nothing but death and destruction. Even today they all live together in peace in Palestine.
What is complicated here?
Straight up lie. And a misdirection to boot. The Grand pubah of Jerusalem was a NAZI and had every intention of killing Jews anyway he could.
The misdirection is in the fact that the JEWS tried everything they could and still do to avoid conflict. THEY BEGGED the Arabs to stay in Israel and be part of the new nation, the Arabs ordered them out declaring they would drive every JEW in that region into the sea.
Arabs living as citizens of Israel have the EXACT same rights and protections as any JEW. Last Time I checked 13 Arabs were in the Knesset, one of them was the 2nd most powerful member of a non Arab political party.
Says the man who believes murdering women and children is dandy.
Both sides are doing that....
You obviously don't get it. There are always excuses. If the Palis get the west bank, then they want E.Jerusalem too. If they get EJ, then they want Jaffa. If they get Jaffa, then they want Tel Aviv.
You are dealing with people who have been told since infancy that all their problems come from the Jews. Get rid of the Jews and your problems are over. Their leadership must maintain this fiction to cover over their own kleptocracy and incompetence. So there is always another demand over the horizon. There is no negotiating with people like that.
Before Israel the indigenous Muslims, Christians, and Jews live in peace in Palestine. With Israel there has been nothing but death and destruction. Even today they all live together in peace in Palestine.
What is complicated here?
Straight up lie. And a misdirection to boot. The Grand pubah of Jerusalem was a NAZI and had every intention of killing Jews anyway he could.
The misdirection is in the fact that the JEWS tried everything they could and still do to avoid conflict. THEY BEGGED the Arabs to stay in Israel and be part of the new nation, the Arabs ordered them out declaring they would drive every JEW in that region into the sea.
Arabs living as citizens of Israel have the EXACT same rights and protections as any JEW. Last Time I checked 13 Arabs were in the Knesset, one of them was the 2nd most powerful member of a non Arab political party.
Then what is the point of having a "Jewish State?"
Dummy, the point of having a Jewish state is to provide for the assurance of Jewish self-determination.
Is there a right to self determination?
Yes, dummy, the UN Charter has established the right to self-determination.
Then what is the point of having a "Jewish State?"
Dummy, the point of having a Jewish state is to provide for the assurance of Jewish self-determination.
kinda sucks being on the side of having to rationalize a state-based master race, eh dude?
kinda sucks being on the side of having to rationalize a state-based master race, eh dude?
You mean, the 55 Muslim countries and 25 Arab countries that, unlike Israel, persecute against the practice of other religions?
Don't be such a dummy. Israel is the only countryin the Middle East with true freedom of religion.
Jews may not be a master race, but, Muslims are inferior trash.
kinda sucks being on the side of having to rationalize a state-based master race, eh dude?
You mean, the 55 Muslim countries and 25 Arab countries that, unlike Israel, persecute against the practice of other religions?
Don't be such a dummy. Israel is the only countryin the Middle East with true freedom of religion.
Jews may not be a master race, but, Muslims are inferior trash.
Is that why some of the staunchest supporters of Palestine are Christians and some are even Jews?
hello, shogie.
kinda sucks being on the side of having to rationalize a state-based master race, eh dude?
You mean, the 55 Muslim countries and 25 Arab countries that, unlike Israel, persecute against the practice of other religions?
Don't be such a dummy. Israel is the only countryin the Middle East with true freedom of religion.
Jews may not be a master race, but, Muslims are inferior trash.
You mean, the 55 Muslim countries and 25 Arab countries that, unlike Israel, persecute against the practice of other religions?
Don't be such a dummy. Israel is the only countryin the Middle East with true freedom of religion.
Jews may not be a master race, but, Muslims are inferior trash.
Is that why some of the staunchest supporters of Palestine are Christians and some are even Jews?
Dummy, I recognize you're mentally impaired, however, as I have instructed you, Israel encompasses 90% of Palestine. Otherwise, there isno country called Palestine, dumbass.
Is that why some of the staunchest supporters of Palestine are Christians and some are even Jews?
Dummy, I recognize you're mentally impaired, however, as I have instructed you, Israel encompasses 90% of Palestine. Otherwise, there isno country called Palestine, dumbass.
YEA! it's probably impossible to find a pre-48 map of that area called PALESTINE...
Dummy, I recognize you're mentally impaired, however, as I have instructed you, Israel encompasses 90% of Palestine. Otherwise, there isno country called Palestine, dumbass.
YEA! it's probably impossible to find a pre-48 map of that area called PALESTINE...
http://pix.halfwit.com/e/n/i/palestine.jpg
http://domino.un.org/UNISPAL.NSF/a4...310db0a90525655600795225/$FILE/palestine1.jpg
http://www.countryseek.com/maps/palestine-map.gif
The Sunday schools have done a great deal of harm to us, because by smearing the walls of the rooms with maps of Palestine they are associating it in the mind of the average American--and I may say perhaps the Englishman, too--with the Jews. Sir, there is no such thing as Palestine in history, absolutely not.