Israel does not target civilians?

[Phoenall]

Rehmani, et al,

Again, Israeli's do not target civilians (ever). It can sometimes be the case that civilians are casualties do to proximity of military targets; but Israel does not target civilians.

Well then enter into camps and fight against freedom fighter don'e kill innocent people. But they can not they are scared. Because hired soldiers not paid good enough to sacrifice thier lives for illegal invasion.

(COMMENT)

I'm not sure I totally understand this. BUT, ---- remember that no Israeli entangled, relegated or incarcerated any Arab Palestinians into a UNRWA Refugee Camps. Ever single Refugee Camp in the West Bank and Gaza Strip emerged under total Arab Administration: All of them under either Egyptian Rule or Jordanian Rule between 1949 and 1953; except for two: The first Camp in 1948 and the last camp in 1965. Essentially the same can be said for the Refugee Camps in Lebanon, Syria and Jordan.

Most Respectfully,
R

But jew please try to understand that Israeli army invade Palestinian home land and push them into neighboring countries and these Palestinian refugee living in these camps at the border of their own home land called Palestine or Holy land and waiting when jewish depart so Palestinian enter in their home land.

They were kicked out of their homeland by heir fellow Palestinians when they tried to take over by force. The Palestinians killed as many as 50,000 in one month of the PLO Palestinians and evicted them from Jordan. If you cant accept the truth then you have no business spreading LIES on here.

 

[Phoenall]

Rehmani, et al,

I agree with you. You cannot change history.

Look jew, you can not change many millennium old indigenous palestinian rights because of falls propaganda.

(OBSERVATION)

For nearly 800 years, the Sultan of the Ottoman Empire was the sovereign power over the territory in question. The sovereign authority actually ended in 1918 with the Armistice of Mudros (Article 16). Article 132 of the Treaty of Sevres, also was just a clear; But then again, the Treaty of Lausanne addressed the final say:

The Armistice of Mudros, which was concluded on October 30, 1918
16. Surrender of all garrisons in Hejaz, Assir, Yemen, Syria, and Mesopotamia to the nearest Allied commander; and the withdrawal of troops from Cilicia, except those necessary to maintain order, as will be determined under Clause 5.

ARTICLE 132, Treaty of Sevres
Outside her frontiers as fixed by the present Treaty Turkey hereby renounces in favour of the Principal Allied Powers all rights and title which she could claim on any ground over or concerning any territories outside Europe which are not otherwise disposed of by the present Treaty.

Turkey undertakes to recognise and conform to the measures which may be taken now or in the future by the Principal Allied Powers, in agreement where necessary with third Powers, in order to carry the above stipulation into effect.

Article 16, Treaty of Lausanne:
Turkey hereby renounces all rights and title whatsoever over or respecting the territories situated outside the frontiers laid down in the present Treaty and the islands other than those over which her sovereignty is recognised by the said Treaty, the future of these territories and islands being settled or to be settled by the parties concerned.

The provisions of the present Article do not prejudice any special arrangements arising from neighborly relations which have been or may be concluded between Turkey and any limitrophe countries.

(COMMENT)

Now please notice that the Lausanne say two very important things:

• Turkey renounces all rights and title ---
• Turkey recognized by Treaty, that the future of these territories are being settled by the Allied Powers (parties to the treaty).

There can be no objection that the Allied Powers, on the effective date of the Treaty (which comes after the LoN Covenant), has the necessary authority to handle the territories any way it wanted.

You cannot change this history either. The territory was surrendered to the Allied Powers; and not to the Arabs of the Palestine; no matter what the Covenant said. The Covenant was written in 1919 and has no reach into (legal effect upon) a treaty written in 1924, by the same authors.

Most Respectfully,
R

Look, when you don't accept the indigenous palestinian rights, which is spread over many thousands of years. How come you are expecting that world will accept your arguments which is base over forced and illegal invasion.

What rights are those then, as the Ottomans did not allow them any rights under Islamic sharia law.

 

[Phoenall]

Rehmani, et al,

Not correct. I cannot envision how you even come to that conclusion.

Jew you are wrong, Israel is created illegally by force and now by falls propaganda jew are trying to change theses historical facts, as you one of many jews.

(OBSERVATION)

QUOTE: UN Palestine Commission: During today's brief meeting, Dr. Eduardo Morgan (Panama) said that this resolution of the Assembly merely "relieves responsibility. The Commission has not been dissolved. In fact the resolution of last November 29 has been implemented." SOURCE: UN PR PAL/169 17 May 1948
​

The Resolution is, of course:
11/29/1947

A/RES/181(II) Palestine plan of partition with economic union - General Assembly resolution 181

(COMMENT)

The State of Israel was created peacefully, pursuant to the "Steps Preparatory to Independence" recommended by the General Assembly. The issue of force is addressed so:

"Powerful Arab interests, both inside and outside Palestine, are defying the resolution of the General Assembly and are engaged in a deliberate effort to alter by force the settlement envisaged therein." SOURCE: A/AC.21/9 S/676 16 February 1948
​

QUOTE: US DoS, Office of the Historian: Home › Milestones › 1945–1952 › The Arab-Israeli War of 1948
The United Nations resolution sparked conflict between Jewish and Arab groups within Palestine. Fighting began with attacks by irregular bands of Palestinian Arabs attached to local units of the Arab Liberation Army composed of volunteers from Palestine and neighboring Arab countries. These groups launched their attacks against Jewish cities, settlements, and armed forces. The Jewish forces were composed of the Haganah, the underground militia of the Jewish community in Palestine, and two small irregular groups, the Irgun, and LEHI. The goal of the Arabs was initially to block the Partition Resolution and to prevent the establishment of the Jewish state. The Jews, on the other hand, hoped to gain control over the territory allotted to them under the Partition Plan.

After Israel declared its independence on May 14, 1948, the fighting intensified with other Arab forces joining the Palestinian Arabs in attacking territory in the former Palestinian mandate. On the eve of May 14, the Arabs launched an air attack on Tel Aviv, which the Israelis resisted. END QUOTE

The Arab Palestinians opened hostilities on the adoption of the 29 November 1947 Resolution.

Most Respectfully,
R

Look again, you are repeating same forced and illegal invasion story over the rights of indigenous palestinian.

They had no rights, they lost them when they joined the Ottoman forces and were beat by the British.

 

[Phoenall]

...The Palestinians are under Occupation Kondie,just because you support this unlawful act...

It really doesn't matter. The Jews of Israel are engaged in Reconquista, and, given the few slivers of land remaining to be secured, their multi-generational goal is now in sight.

...you are just defending the indefensible (Zionist Terrorism)...

I'm not trying to defend it. There is never any defense for Reconquista. Just as there is never any defense for original Conquest. I merely support the soon-to-be Winner.

...by playing summantics sic with shabby words...

I thought they were entirely functional words, and that they did a good yeoman's job as a partisan exercise in applied logic.

...your opinion is rank,like much of the Zionist ramblings...

If that's meant to be a literary review... don't quit your day-job.

...You think you are being clever in front of the Pro-Zionist Lobby on here...

No... I think I'm one voice amongst many friends of Israel, who stand against a Muslim-Palestinian online propaganda machine; and their fifth-column tag-alongs.

...but I see it as someone who finds these piquant situations difficult to comprehend...

Oh, I comprehend the full range of options well enough on the macro level; it's just that there is only one solution (Israeli completion of their Reconquista) left on the table.

The time for creating a Palestinian State would have been anytime in the period 1948-1967, and, failing that, at various points between 1967 and 2000 - the beginning of the 2nd Intifada - which closed that window forevermore. Since then, and by now, there isn't enough contiguous land remaining in which to create a Palestinian State, anyway. It's over.

A one-state solution will not work; that window closed back in the 1950s or 1960s.

A two-state solution will not work; that window closed in 2000 with the 2nd Intifada.

That means that, ultimately, either the Israelis or the Palestinians have to go.

The Israelis have all the playing cards and all the muscle, so it won't be them.

Which means the Palestinians have to go.

As a matter of policy and practice, Israel does not intentionally target civilians in order to inflict civilian casualties, but the insistence of Hamas, et al, in continuing to embed war assets (rocket launchers, operations centers, staging areas, sally ports and tunnels, logistics centers, munitions caches, communications centers, etc.) in civilian residential neighborhoods, mosques, schools, hospitals and clinics, etc., have resulted in large numbers of unintentional but necessary civilian casualties, as the Israelis have prosecuted this ongoing asymmetrical warfare with their sworn mortal enemies.

As to how the Palestinians will leave...

They can go, carried out by their feet, or...

They can go, walking out, with their families and belongings, and with the prospect of a happy, safe, secure life and a prosperous future, elsewhere, to look forward to.

Life is almost always a better choice than Death.

The rag-tag so-called Palestinians need to choose Life.

...,in a word your Brain is under severe CONTAINMENT ,fcuking shame really because you are not a bad Guy...

Thank you for your opinion.

...Seasons Greeting to your Family and yourself...

Thank you. And to you, as well.

As you said you are not jew means you are a jew because that is how jew practice, they never identified themselves and use others ID. which is wrong they should use their own ID. And as you said that jews are very close to their generational goal, they won't give up now. If jew take my advise and follow my signature comments would be better off otherwise jews have to start again as jews history full of difficult surprises. Jew are chasing a target which base on falls story and because of that jew are behaving like evil means keep losing and keep coming and this is not smart human way so my advise to jew behave like human not evil. Read my signature comments Please and make world peace full place.

"Jew Jew Jew Jew.... Jews should wear ID. Jews are evil. Jews will suffer. Jew should behave like humans."

Another psychotic Muslim looser obsessed with Jews. Anybody who thinks the Israel / Palestine conflict has nothing to do with Islamic hatred and intolerance of non Muslims is sadly mistaken.

The way you people are arguing, sound like this dispute won't settle on table means what you people are defending is an illegal invasion and only solution is possible by an other force invasion.

The only invasion was by arab muslims, who were beaten by a lesser enemy because they had Yahweh on their side.

 

[Phoenall]

montelatici, et al,

And therein rests the backbone of the problem.

Billo_Really, et al,

There is no reasonable expectation that the Palestinians will observe that pledge; even if the Israelis were inclined to give it a second chance.

When you end the occupation.

(COMMENT)

It id not work in 2005 when the Israelis unilaterally withdrew, and it will not work with the Palestinians of the West Bank.

Most Respectfully,
R

Israelis never withdrew from anywhere. Gaza is under the complete control and occupation of Israel.

(COMMENT)

In 2005, there was no Naval Blockade. Border crossings were still operational and comparatively open, given that Palestinians were still running attacks. The Airspace was under Israeli control simply because it was beyond the capability of the Palestinians given the dynamics of a 21st Century Air Traffic Control Zone and Air Defense Zone requires.

In a rough, truncated thumbnail view, this is how the externals saw the Palestinians as we approached the 21st Century:

The Palestinians were developing a network of terrorist organizations. The oldest of the groups is the PLO, stared in 1964. The PLO set the primer for violence in the movements to follow. Immediately after the Six Day War in 1967, the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP) was founded; and the 1968 splinter group known as the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine – General Command (PFLP-GC). In 1969, the Popular Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PDFLP) was founded when it split from the PFLP. In 1979, Islamic fundamentals form a the Palestinian Islamic Jihad; and in 1988 the Islamic Resistance Movement emerged. In the year 2000, the PLO formed a series of Fatah related terrorist cells operating against Israeli military and civilian settlers in the West Bank, Gaza Strip, and Jerusalem; known as the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades; in the same year the Popular Resistance Committee (PRC) emerged and became active in the Gaza Strip.

The most significant of the groups where, of course, the PLO and the PFLP.

The PLO set the general content that the long-term organization needed.

• Fatah: The political face as a Palestinian political party on matters of national liberation.
• Tanzim: A specialized Militia for Fatah; to offset the Palestinian Islamism.
• Force 17: Was a failed attempt to establish an Intelligence Service for Fatah.
• Abu Nidal: A strong-armed terrorist set of cells that splintered off of Fatah.

The PFLP was/is a bit more cerebral. It was violence with an agenda.

It promoted a "People's War." (From 1968 to 1984, under the leadership of George Habash, it was the most violent and active of the Palestinian terrorist groups.)

• The purpose of the war was to FORCE a "Peaceful Solution."
• The "Revolutionary Theory" --- Palestinian National Movement; destroying Israel outright. (No two-state solution.)
• The Revolution should include the reformation of Jordan. (The PFLP has a Jordanian Branch.)

All this goes to establish a pattern of criminal behavior, that the Hostile Arab Palestinian rejects as terrorism because they promote themselves as "freedom Fights." The general HoAP rejects the notion that: "Nothing can justify terrorism — ever. No grievance, no goal, no cause can excuse terrorist acts. The HoAP see there cause as an exception. They have openly rejected the concept that: All disputes, including their dispute, should be addressed by peaceful means in such a manner that international peace and security are not endangered.

THUS, this establishes the reasoning for the continuation of the HoAP containment (not occupation) in the territories. Let loose, the International Community would be libel for the death and destruction that the HoAP would visit upon the region; endangering the peace and security.

Most Respectfully,
R

Roccor the way you are repeating your story is called propaganda but again you can not change facts and figure which is base on thousands of years the rights of Indigenous people of Palestine. .

Define those rights and when they came into force. the Palestinians lost all rights when the British defeated them in 1917 and their leaders gave up the land from under their feet.

 

[IlarMeilyr]

The shocking images reveal that death can be quite gruesome. Some of us already realized this.

But as for the little children who are shown mangled and dead, almost NONE of the scenes in the freaking OP propaganda piece can be shown to have been shot or bombed by Israel much less as having been targeted.

Thread review:

zero.

"Israeli soldiers claim Palestinian civilians were targeted during Gaza war"

Israeli soldiers claim Palestinian civilians were targeted during Gaza war

'Fire at every person': Israeli soldiers reveal they were ordered to shoot to kill in Gaza combat zones – even if targets may have been civilians

Israeli soldiers reveal they were ordered to shoot to kill in Gaza

"Gaza: Israeli Soldiers Shoot and Kill Fleeing Civilians"

Gaza: Israeli Soldiers Shoot and Kill Fleeing Civilians

“U.N. Says Israel Killed Civilians in Schools
people of Gaza have nowhere to run,” Mr. Ban said. “They are trapped, besieged on a speck of land. Every area is a civilian area. Every home, every school, every refuge has become a target. "

U.N. Says Israel Killed Civilians in Schools, Gazans Hid Arms


"Israel Targets Civilians, the Casualties Speak Volumes"

"Israel Targets Civilians, the Casualties Speak Volumes": Int'l Protection Urged for Besieged Gaza | Democracy Now!

Lots of claims. No proof.

Showing a dead mangled baby's body doesn't actually tell us who did it or whether the result was even intended by whoever did it.

And you quote the likes of UN scumbags as if that had any hint of persuasiveness.

 

[P F Tinmore]

In 2005, there was no Naval Blockade. Border crossings were still operational and comparatively open,...​

Load of crap, Rocco.

Relevant info @ 9:10

Once again Islamic propaganda that has never been substantiated from another source.

Laila El Haddad does not do Islamic propaganda.

Says who ?

You are making the claim. Post something she said that is Islamic propaganda.

Don't need to, the fact that you use it as evidence is enough to show it is propaganda from an Islamic source. The fact that it is Iranian press tv alone makes it Islamic propaganda

OK, if you say so.

 

[IlarMeilyr]

Once again Islamic propaganda that has never been substantiated from another source.

Laila El Haddad does not do Islamic propaganda.

Says who ?

You are making the claim. Post something she said that is Islamic propaganda.

Don't need to, the fact that you use it as evidence is enough to show it is propaganda from an Islamic source. The fact that it is Iranian press tv alone makes it Islamic propaganda

OK, if you say so.

Actually, it's obvious to all rational people. Obviously, that excludes you, PF Tinhead.

 

[montelatici]

If that is your question, it depends on the objective. Different tactics for different objectives.

And never ANY tactics for ANY thread.
Nice dodge.

Do you even know what a tactic is? It appears you do not.

A tactic is how strategy is played out in reality.
People, supplies, topography, etc...
All that without ever having been Jason Bourne!

How can tactic be a strategy? Do some research before you respond. You just made a fool of yourself. I knew you hadn't a clue as to what a tactic was. LOL

Oh and you do?! Talk about clueless:

Tac·tic
ˈtaktik/
noun
noun: tactic; plural noun: tactics

1. an action or strategy carefully planned to achieve a specific end.
   synonyms: strategy, scheme, stratagem, plan, maneuver; More
   method, expedient, gambit, move, approach, tack;
   device, trick, ploy, dodge, ruse, machination, contrivance;
   informalwangle;
   archaicshift
   "a tax-saving tactic"
   • the art of disposing armed forces in order of battle and of organizing operations, especially during contact with an enemy.
     synonyms: strategy, policy, campaign, battle plans, game plans, maneuvers, logistics; More
     generalship, organization, planning, direction, orchestration

Why don't you use a real dictionary.

A strategy is a larger, overall plan that can comprise several tactics, which are smaller, focused, less impactful plans that are part of the overall plan. While the original usage of the terms strategy and tactic was in a military context, they are now used in a wide variety of everyday settings, including business.

 

[Kondor3]

...the rights of indigenous palestinian.

Phukk 'em...

Especially in light of the fact that they routinely and falsely accuse Israel of intentionally targeting civilians, as a matter of policy and routine practice...

These Arab-Muslim descendants of the Jackrabbits of the Great Arab Skedaddle of 1948 can fault their father and grandfathers for their plight...

"He who pees his pants, then runs away, lives to regret it, for many a day" - Kondor3

Your (side's) own propaganda maps of a 'shrinking Palestine' tell us all we need to know...

You(r side) has lost...

You no longer have enough land to create and sustain a viable state; in fact, you never have; even the Old Palestine of 1947 was not enough, for a backwards people like yours, and that would certainly be true today, even if you magically re-acquired all the land lost since the Six Day War of 1967... even that amount of land would not be enough to create and sustain a state.

Your side has lost this multi-generational war.

It is over...

In truth, it was over 67 years ago, but...

If that was not clear to the Arab Cowards of 1948, or the Arab Losers or 1967, or the Arab Losers of 1973, it should have been clear to the Arab Losers of 2014...

From this point forward, every time that Hamas et al undertake a rocket barrage campaign or large-scale commando sortie, from staging points or using assets embedded within civilian population centers, this (above) is what you can look forward to...

The gloves are coming off, finally, and inevitably...

And, every time that you lose another mini-war, you lose a vast amount of additional territory; in truth, if you undertake a Third Intifada or another Gaza War like 2014, there won't be enough land remaining under your control to stand in; you will be standing on each other's shoulders, on a few scraps of scattered land, each the size of a postage stamp.

That's no way to live, and there is no future in you staying there.

Time to pack up and leave.

Get your families the hell out of there, and go build new lives somewhere else, where you can be happy, and prosperous, and where your children and grandchildren can live in peace, and enjoy Life, rather than stupidly celebrating and asking for Death.

Life, fools, not Death.

Live.

Leave.

 

[Roudy]

...The Palestinians are under Occupation Kondie,just because you support this unlawful act...

It really doesn't matter. The Jews of Israel are engaged in Reconquista, and, given the few slivers of land remaining to be secured, their multi-generational goal is now in sight.

...you are just defending the indefensible (Zionist Terrorism)...

I'm not trying to defend it. There is never any defense for Reconquista. Just as there is never any defense for original Conquest. I merely support the soon-to-be Winner.

...by playing summantics sic with shabby words...

I thought they were entirely functional words, and that they did a good yeoman's job as a partisan exercise in applied logic.

...your opinion is rank,like much of the Zionist ramblings...

If that's meant to be a literary review... don't quit your day-job.

...You think you are being clever in front of the Pro-Zionist Lobby on here...

No... I think I'm one voice amongst many friends of Israel, who stand against a Muslim-Palestinian online propaganda machine; and their fifth-column tag-alongs.

...but I see it as someone who finds these piquant situations difficult to comprehend...

Oh, I comprehend the full range of options well enough on the macro level; it's just that there is only one solution (Israeli completion of their Reconquista) left on the table.

The time for creating a Palestinian State would have been anytime in the period 1948-1967, and, failing that, at various points between 1967 and 2000 - the beginning of the 2nd Intifada - which closed that window forevermore. Since then, and by now, there isn't enough contiguous land remaining in which to create a Palestinian State, anyway. It's over.

A one-state solution will not work; that window closed back in the 1950s or 1960s.

A two-state solution will not work; that window closed in 2000 with the 2nd Intifada.

That means that, ultimately, either the Israelis or the Palestinians have to go.

The Israelis have all the playing cards and all the muscle, so it won't be them.

Which means the Palestinians have to go.

As a matter of policy and practice, Israel does not intentionally target civilians in order to inflict civilian casualties, but the insistence of Hamas, et al, in continuing to embed war assets (rocket launchers, operations centers, staging areas, sally ports and tunnels, logistics centers, munitions caches, communications centers, etc.) in civilian residential neighborhoods, mosques, schools, hospitals and clinics, etc., have resulted in large numbers of unintentional but necessary civilian casualties, as the Israelis have prosecuted this ongoing asymmetrical warfare with their sworn mortal enemies.

As to how the Palestinians will leave...

They can go, carried out by their feet, or...

They can go, walking out, with their families and belongings, and with the prospect of a happy, safe, secure life and a prosperous future, elsewhere, to look forward to.

Life is almost always a better choice than Death.

The rag-tag so-called Palestinians need to choose Life.

...,in a word your Brain is under severe CONTAINMENT ,fcuking shame really because you are not a bad Guy...

Thank you for your opinion.

...Seasons Greeting to your Family and yourself...

Thank you. And to you, as well.

As you said you are not jew means you are a jew because that is how jew practice, they never identified themselves and use others ID. which is wrong they should use their own ID. And as you said that jews are very close to their generational goal, they won't give up now. If jew take my advise and follow my signature comments would be better off otherwise jews have to start again as jews history full of difficult surprises. Jew are chasing a target which base on falls story and because of that jew are behaving like evil means keep losing and keep coming and this is not smart human way so my advise to jew behave like human not evil. Read my signature comments Please and make world peace full place.

"Jew Jew Jew Jew.... Jews should wear ID. Jews are evil. Jews will suffer. Jew should behave like humans."

Another psychotic Muslim looser obsessed with Jews. Anybody who thinks the Israel / Palestine conflict has nothing to do with Islamic hatred and intolerance of non Muslims is sadly mistaken.

The way you people are arguing, sound like this dispute won't settle on table means what you people are defending is an illegal invasion and only solution is possible by an other force invasion.

Yeah? And how's that "other solution" working out, Mr Jew Jew Jew Jew Jew Jew?

 

[Roudy]

And never ANY tactics for ANY thread.
Nice dodge.

Do you even know what a tactic is? It appears you do not.

A tactic is how strategy is played out in reality.
People, supplies, topography, etc...
All that without ever having been Jason Bourne!

How can tactic be a strategy? Do some research before you respond. You just made a fool of yourself. I knew you hadn't a clue as to what a tactic was. LOL

Oh and you do?! Talk about clueless:

Tac·tic
ˈtaktik/
noun
noun: tactic; plural noun: tactics

1. an action or strategy carefully planned to achieve a specific end.
   synonyms: strategy, scheme, stratagem, plan, maneuver; More
   method, expedient, gambit, move, approach, tack;
   device, trick, ploy, dodge, ruse, machination, contrivance;
   informalwangle;
   archaicshift
   "a tax-saving tactic"
   • the art of disposing armed forces in order of battle and of organizing operations, especially during contact with an enemy.
     synonyms: strategy, policy, campaign, battle plans, game plans, maneuvers, logistics; More
     generalship, organization, planning, direction, orchestration

Why don't you use a real dictionary.

A strategy is a larger, overall plan that can comprise several tactics, which are smaller, focused, less impactful plans that are part of the overall plan. While the original usage of the terms strategy and tactic was in a military context, they are now used in a wide variety of everyday settings, including business.

More bull and desperation. Strategy and tactic can be interchangeable words. You can carry out ONE tactic that fulfills a desired strategy, or vice versa. It can be be a large or small tactic OR strategy. In other words, they are synonyms.

The two words are widely used in a variety of settings? Wow! That's a shocking revelation!

 

[Roudy]

Challenger, et al,

Wrong.

Rehmani, et al,

OK --- I'll play: Arab Palestine for 200$...

(COMMENT)

What Arab State did the Jewish Immigrants take?

What Arab State existed, west of the Jordan River, on 15 MAY 1948?

Most Respectfully,
R

Palestine, to both questions.

(REFERENCE)

02/27/1948

PAL/138 Future government of Palestine - UN Palestine Commission as successor Government of Palestine/UK memorandum (excerpts) - Press release

(COMMENT)

The name Palestine was a designated short title for the territory to which the Mandate applied. Paragraph 1, Palestine Order in Council, League of Nations.

Palestine was not an Arab State. It was a "legal entity" under the Administration of the designated Mandatory, appointed by the Allied Powers.

Palestine will continue to be a legal entity but it will still not be a sovereign state because it will not be immediately self-governing. The Arab Higher Committee rejected the offer presented by Resolution 181 (II), and the opportunity to participate in the Steps Preparatory to Independence.

On mid-night 14/15 May 1948, Jewish State [Part II, Section B - Boundaries, General Assembly Resolution 181 (II)] became a self-governing sovereignty. No establishment of an Arab State was coordinated.

Most Respectfully,
R

Jew you are wrong, Israel is created illegally by force and now by falls propaganda jew are trying to change theses historical facts, as you one of many jews.

I love it, everybody who doesn't agree or proves otherwise is immediately attacked as "you Jew". Now you understand what it's like living as a minority among these Neanderthal savages.

Well, I am wondering if you people are not jew, then why jews are not defending Israel. And who you are? Are you made OR have nothing to do by posting 6000 posts in a year for nothing, if I not called you a jew then what should I call you a paid agent or hired soldier OR please explain if you have some other name for you self in your mind. BECAUSE I AM A REAL PERSON AND I WANT TO DISCUS ISSUE WITH REAL JEW TO REACH A REAL LOGICAL SOLUTION FOR PEACE IN HOLY LAND. not....................................................................

Israel is not Muslim holy land, and will never be ruled by Islam again, mr Jew Jew Jew Jew Jew.

Islamic Muslim savages are attacking and murdering innocent people all over the world, Israel is just another location that these animals are doing that.

Islam is the cancer of modern humanity, and should be treated as such. Israel and Western nations that can stand up to these barbarians and protect their civilians and uphold their ideals, are the cure. Thats the logical solution.

 

[Roudy]

The shocking images reveal that death can be quite gruesome. Some of us already realized this.

But as for the little children who are shown mangled and dead, almost NONE of the scenes in the freaking OP propaganda piece can be shown to have been shot or bombed by Israel much less as having been targeted.

Thread review:

zero.

"Israeli soldiers claim Palestinian civilians were targeted during Gaza war"

Israeli soldiers claim Palestinian civilians were targeted during Gaza war

'Fire at every person': Israeli soldiers reveal they were ordered to shoot to kill in Gaza combat zones – even if targets may have been civilians

Israeli soldiers reveal they were ordered to shoot to kill in Gaza

"Gaza: Israeli Soldiers Shoot and Kill Fleeing Civilians"

Gaza: Israeli Soldiers Shoot and Kill Fleeing Civilians

“U.N. Says Israel Killed Civilians in Schools
people of Gaza have nowhere to run,” Mr. Ban said. “They are trapped, besieged on a speck of land. Every area is a civilian area. Every home, every school, every refuge has become a target. "

U.N. Says Israel Killed Civilians in Schools, Gazans Hid Arms


"Israel Targets Civilians, the Casualties Speak Volumes"

"Israel Targets Civilians, the Casualties Speak Volumes": Int'l Protection Urged for Besieged Gaza | Democracy Now!

Lots of claims. No proof.

Showing a dead mangled baby's body doesn't actually tell us who did it or whether the result was even intended by whoever did it.

And you quote the likes of UN scumbags as if that had any hint of persuasiveness.

Did you check out the bullshit websites the info was derived from?

 

[montelatici]

Do you even know what a tactic is? It appears you do not.

A tactic is how strategy is played out in reality.
People, supplies, topography, etc...
All that without ever having been Jason Bourne!

How can tactic be a strategy? Do some research before you respond. You just made a fool of yourself. I knew you hadn't a clue as to what a tactic was. LOL

Oh and you do?! Talk about clueless:

Tac·tic
ˈtaktik/
noun
noun: tactic; plural noun: tactics

1. an action or strategy carefully planned to achieve a specific end.
   synonyms: strategy, scheme, stratagem, plan, maneuver; More
   method, expedient, gambit, move, approach, tack;
   device, trick, ploy, dodge, ruse, machination, contrivance;
   informalwangle;
   archaicshift
   "a tax-saving tactic"
   • the art of disposing armed forces in order of battle and of organizing operations, especially during contact with an enemy.
     synonyms: strategy, policy, campaign, battle plans, game plans, maneuvers, logistics; More
     generalship, organization, planning, direction, orchestration

Why don't you use a real dictionary.

A strategy is a larger, overall plan that can comprise several tactics, which are smaller, focused, less impactful plans that are part of the overall plan. While the original usage of the terms strategy and tactic was in a military context, they are now used in a wide variety of everyday settings, including business.

More bull and desperation. Strategy and tactic can be interchangeable words. You can carry out ONE tactic that fulfills a desired strategy, or vice versa. It can be be a large or small tactic OR strategy. In other words, they are synonyms.

The two words are widely used in a variety of settings? Wow! That's a shocking revelation!

They are not interchangeable at all. Try giving a presentation to general staff and use the words interchangeably and you will be booted out of the room. You haven't a clue sport.

 

[Roudy]

A tactic is how strategy is played out in reality.
People, supplies, topography, etc...
All that without ever having been Jason Bourne!

How can tactic be a strategy? Do some research before you respond. You just made a fool of yourself. I knew you hadn't a clue as to what a tactic was. LOL

Oh and you do?! Talk about clueless:

Tac·tic
ˈtaktik/
noun
noun: tactic; plural noun: tactics

1. an action or strategy carefully planned to achieve a specific end.
   synonyms: strategy, scheme, stratagem, plan, maneuver; More
   method, expedient, gambit, move, approach, tack;
   device, trick, ploy, dodge, ruse, machination, contrivance;
   informalwangle;
   archaicshift
   "a tax-saving tactic"
   • the art of disposing armed forces in order of battle and of organizing operations, especially during contact with an enemy.
     synonyms: strategy, policy, campaign, battle plans, game plans, maneuvers, logistics; More
     generalship, organization, planning, direction, orchestration

Why don't you use a real dictionary.

A strategy is a larger, overall plan that can comprise several tactics, which are smaller, focused, less impactful plans that are part of the overall plan. While the original usage of the terms strategy and tactic was in a military context, they are now used in a wide variety of everyday settings, including business.

More bull and desperation. Strategy and tactic can be interchangeable words. You can carry out ONE tactic that fulfills a desired strategy, or vice versa. It can be be a large or small tactic OR strategy. In other words, they are synonyms.

The two words are widely used in a variety of settings? Wow! That's a shocking revelation!

They are not interchangeable at all. Try giving a presentation to general staff and use the words interchangeably and you will be booted out of the room. You haven't a clue sport.

Dictionary says so. Logic says so. Tactic and strategy are interchangeable.

"He used this tactic to..." Or "he used this strategy to..." <----Same thing.

Some people just can't handle being wrong.

 

[Phoenall]

Once again Islamic propaganda that has never been substantiated from another source.

Laila El Haddad does not do Islamic propaganda.

Says who ?

You are making the claim. Post something she said that is Islamic propaganda.

Don't need to, the fact that you use it as evidence is enough to show it is propaganda from an Islamic source. The fact that it is Iranian press tv alone makes it Islamic propaganda

OK, if you say so.

So you are saying that Iranian state mass media is not biased against Israel

 

[montelatici]

How can tactic be a strategy? Do some research before you respond. You just made a fool of yourself. I knew you hadn't a clue as to what a tactic was. LOL

Oh and you do?! Talk about clueless:

Tac·tic
ˈtaktik/
noun
noun: tactic; plural noun: tactics

1. an action or strategy carefully planned to achieve a specific end.
   synonyms: strategy, scheme, stratagem, plan, maneuver; More
   method, expedient, gambit, move, approach, tack;
   device, trick, ploy, dodge, ruse, machination, contrivance;
   informalwangle;
   archaicshift
   "a tax-saving tactic"
   • the art of disposing armed forces in order of battle and of organizing operations, especially during contact with an enemy.
     synonyms: strategy, policy, campaign, battle plans, game plans, maneuvers, logistics; More
     generalship, organization, planning, direction, orchestration

Why don't you use a real dictionary.

A strategy is a larger, overall plan that can comprise several tactics, which are smaller, focused, less impactful plans that are part of the overall plan. While the original usage of the terms strategy and tactic was in a military context, they are now used in a wide variety of everyday settings, including business.

More bull and desperation. Strategy and tactic can be interchangeable words. You can carry out ONE tactic that fulfills a desired strategy, or vice versa. It can be be a large or small tactic OR strategy. In other words, they are synonyms.

The two words are widely used in a variety of settings? Wow! That's a shocking revelation!

They are not interchangeable at all. Try giving a presentation to general staff and use the words interchangeably and you will be booted out of the room. You haven't a clue sport.

Dictionary says so. Logic says so. Tactic and strategy are interchangeable.

"He used this tactic to..." Or "he used this strategy to..." <----Same thing.

Some people just can't handle being wrong.

How can tactic be a strategy? Do some research before you respond. You just made a fool of yourself. I knew you hadn't a clue as to what a tactic was. LOL

Oh and you do?! Talk about clueless:

Tac·tic
ˈtaktik/
noun
noun: tactic; plural noun: tactics

1. an action or strategy carefully planned to achieve a specific end.
   synonyms: strategy, scheme, stratagem, plan, maneuver; More
   method, expedient, gambit, move, approach, tack;
   device, trick, ploy, dodge, ruse, machination, contrivance;
   informalwangle;
   archaicshift
   "a tax-saving tactic"
   • the art of disposing armed forces in order of battle and of organizing operations, especially during contact with an enemy.
     synonyms: strategy, policy, campaign, battle plans, game plans, maneuvers, logistics; More
     generalship, organization, planning, direction, orchestration

Why don't you use a real dictionary.

A strategy is a larger, overall plan that can comprise several tactics, which are smaller, focused, less impactful plans that are part of the overall plan. While the original usage of the terms strategy and tactic was in a military context, they are now used in a wide variety of everyday settings, including business.

More bull and desperation. Strategy and tactic can be interchangeable words. You can carry out ONE tactic that fulfills a desired strategy, or vice versa. It can be be a large or small tactic OR strategy. In other words, they are synonyms.

The two words are widely used in a variety of settings? Wow! That's a shocking revelation!

They are not interchangeable at all. Try giving a presentation to general staff and use the words interchangeably and you will be booted out of the room. You haven't a clue sport.

Dictionary says so. Logic says so. Tactic and strategy are interchangeable.

"He used this tactic to..." Or "he used this strategy to..." <----Same thing.

Some people just can't handle being wrong.

Well Ruddy, let's all be grateful that you aren't an arms negotiator, you would give away strategic nuclear weapons for tactical nuclear weapons since the terms are interchangeable. LOL Ruddy, get an education and use real dictionaries.

 

[aris2chat]

Israel News Flash on Twitter


Palestinian stabbing IDF and civilian

 

[theliq]

...the rights of indigenous palestinian.

Phukk 'em...

Especially in light of the fact that they routinely and falsely accuse Israel of intentionally targeting civilians, as a matter of policy and routine practice...

These Arab-Muslim descendants of the Jackrabbits of the Great Arab Skedaddle of 1948 can fault their father and grandfathers for their plight...

"He who pees his pants, then runs away, lives to regret it, for many a day" - Kondor3

Your (side's) own propaganda maps of a 'shrinking Palestine' tell us all we need to know...

You(r side) has lost...

You no longer have enough land to create and sustain a viable state; in fact, you never have; even the Old Palestine of 1947 was not enough, for a backwards people like yours, and that would certainly be true today, even if you magically re-acquired all the land lost since the Six Day War of 1967... even that amount of land would not be enough to create and sustain a state.

Your side has lost this multi-generational war.

It is over...

In truth, it was over 67 years ago, but...

If that was not clear to the Arab Cowards of 1948, or the Arab Losers or 1967, or the Arab Losers of 1973, it should have been clear to the Arab Losers of 2014...

From this point forward, every time that Hamas et al undertake a rocket barrage campaign or large-scale commando sortie, from staging points or using assets embedded within civilian population centers, this (above) is what you can look forward to...

The gloves are coming off, finally, and inevitably...

And, every time that you lose another mini-war, you lose a vast amount of additional territory; in truth, if you undertake a Third Intifada or another Gaza War like 2014, there won't be enough land remaining under your control to stand in; you will be standing on each other's shoulders, on a few scraps of scattered land, each the size of a postage stamp.

That's no way to live, and there is no future in you staying there.

Time to pack up and leave.

Get your families the hell out of there, and go build new lives somewhere else, where you can be happy, and prosperous, and where your children and grandchildren can live in peace, and enjoy Life, rather than stupidly celebrating and asking for Death.

Life, fools, not Death.

Live.

Leave.

Such an Arrogant post as to consign Kondie to the Dustbin of Rank Posts...............You are inciting DEATH TO ALL JEWS essentially .......such is your ISIS style inflammatory declaration ........... same as the Zionists cira 1910........you think you can dictate history......Watch what you dream for..it will slap you in the face.........or chop your head off...........you do realize that the void would be filled by ISIS types......your comment is churlish,shameful(read what that word means)ignorant, devisive and ignorant................Kondie "NO MAN IS AN ISLAND"/Israel is no island either.steve