Islam is not inherently evil

[percysunshine]

"In other words, a state court might very well apply sharia or the law of England, as courts do all of the time in the appropriate circumstance (i.e., the parties agree to such laws in a contract), as long as the particular aspect of sharia or the law of England does not undermine our own state and federal constitutions in the matter being adjudicated"

The Constitution supercedes Sharia, and the laws of England.


Re: Sharia — Mr. Schmitz Is Wrong on the Law, Too - By Andrew C. McCarthy - The Corner - National Review Online

 

[Si modo]

People just have to have some group to hate. Muslims are very convenient in that regard.

Maybe you and your wife should travel - together - to Saudi Arabia.

And, FYI, Sharia is not practiced or is not the law in Antarctica, so that excuses Sharia law - stoning for adultery. Right?

The moral code of Islam.

 

[Sky Dancer]

So what? The west isn't under sharia law.

Commit adultery and get stoned to death.

The moral code of Islam.

That's not the case in the United States. Shariah as it practiced in the West not extreme in that way.

When was the last time you heard of a stoning in the US for adultery?

So what? Sharia is not law in the west.

Unmarried and screwing? 100 lashes.

The moral code of Islam.

Shari'ah is not inherently evil. The way it is practiced in the West proves that. Americans were once prejudiced against Jews and rabbinical law in the same way that Muslims are now.

 

[Si modo]

That's not the case in the United States. Shariah as it practiced in the West not extreme in that way.

When was the last time you heard of a stoning in the US for adultery?

So what? Sharia is not law in the west.

Unmarried and screwing? 100 lashes.

The moral code of Islam.

Shari'ah is not inherently evil. The way it is practiced in the West proves that.

So, when a venue doesn't have the law, that makes the law OK in places that DO have the law.

 

[Sky Dancer]

The crusade against Shariah undermines American democracy, ignores our country’s successful history of religious tolerance and assimilation, and creates a dangerous divide between America and its fastest-growing religious minority.

The suggestion that Shariah threatens American security is disturbingly reminiscent of the accusation, in 19th-century Europe, that Jewish religious law was seditious. In 1807, Napoleon convened an assembly of rabbinic authorities to address the question of whether Jewish law prevented Jews from being loyal citizens of the republic. (They said that it did not.)

Fear that Jewish law bred disloyalty was not limited to political elites; leading European philosophers also entertained the idea. Kant argued that the particularistic nature of “Jewish legislation” made Jews “hostile to all other peoples.” And Hegel contended that Jewish dietary rules and other Mosaic laws barred Jews from identifying with their fellow Prussians and called into question their ability to be civil servants.

The German philosopher Bruno Bauer offered Jews a bargain: renounce Jewish law and be granted full legal rights. He insisted that, otherwise, laws prohibiting work on the Sabbath made it impossible for Jews to be true citizens. (Bauer conveniently ignored the fact that many fully observant Jews violated the Sabbath to fight in the Prussian wars against Napoleon.)

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/03/opinion/dont-fear-islamic-law-in-america.html

 

[percysunshine]

Sky Dancer can't read.

 

[Sky Dancer]

So what? Sharia is not law in the west.

Unmarried and screwing? 100 lashes.

The moral code of Islam.

Shari'ah is not inherently evil. The way it is practiced in the West proves that.

So, when a venue doesn't have the law, that makes the law OK in places that DO have the law.

If Shariah were inherently evil, it would be evil all the time and everywhere. As it is practiced in the West it is not evil.

 

[Si modo]

Shari'ah is not inherently evil. The way it is practiced in the West proves that.

So, when a venue doesn't have the law, that makes the law OK in places that DO have the law.

If Shariah were inherently evil, it would be evil all the time and everywhere. As it is practiced in the West it is not evil.

What part of "it is not the law" confuses you?

It is not the law in the west - non-existent.

The moral code of Islam requires adulterers to be stoned to death.

The moral code of Islam.

 

[bodecea]

The crusade against Shariah undermines American democracy, ignores our country’s successful history of religious tolerance and assimilation, and creates a dangerous divide between America and its fastest-growing religious minority.

The suggestion that Shariah threatens American security is disturbingly reminiscent of the accusation, in 19th-century Europe, that Jewish religious law was seditious. In 1807, Napoleon convened an assembly of rabbinic authorities to address the question of whether Jewish law prevented Jews from being loyal citizens of the republic. (They said that it did not.)

Fear that Jewish law bred disloyalty was not limited to political elites; leading European philosophers also entertained the idea. Kant argued that the particularistic nature of “Jewish legislation” made Jews “hostile to all other peoples.” And Hegel contended that Jewish dietary rules and other Mosaic laws barred Jews from identifying with their fellow Prussians and called into question their ability to be civil servants.

The German philosopher Bruno Bauer offered Jews a bargain: renounce Jewish law and be granted full legal rights. He insisted that, otherwise, laws prohibiting work on the Sabbath made it impossible for Jews to be true citizens. (Bauer conveniently ignored the fact that many fully observant Jews violated the Sabbath to fight in the Prussian wars against Napoleon.)

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/03/opinion/dont-fear-islamic-law-in-america.html

History is always repeating itself.

 

[Sky Dancer]

What part of not understanding that Shariah Law in the West is no threat do you not get?

We are protected from laws of religious extremism by our secular laws.
American Muslims, like all other religious minorities before them, are adjusting their legal and theological traditions to accord with American values.

 

[Sky Dancer]

The crusade against Shariah undermines American democracy, ignores our country’s successful history of religious tolerance and assimilation, and creates a dangerous divide between America and its fastest-growing religious minority.

The suggestion that Shariah threatens American security is disturbingly reminiscent of the accusation, in 19th-century Europe, that Jewish religious law was seditious. In 1807, Napoleon convened an assembly of rabbinic authorities to address the question of whether Jewish law prevented Jews from being loyal citizens of the republic. (They said that it did not.)

Fear that Jewish law bred disloyalty was not limited to political elites; leading European philosophers also entertained the idea. Kant argued that the particularistic nature of “Jewish legislation” made Jews “hostile to all other peoples.” And Hegel contended that Jewish dietary rules and other Mosaic laws barred Jews from identifying with their fellow Prussians and called into question their ability to be civil servants.

The German philosopher Bruno Bauer offered Jews a bargain: renounce Jewish law and be granted full legal rights. He insisted that, otherwise, laws prohibiting work on the Sabbath made it impossible for Jews to be true citizens. (Bauer conveniently ignored the fact that many fully observant Jews violated the Sabbath to fight in the Prussian wars against Napoleon.)

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/03/opinion/dont-fear-islamic-law-in-america.html

History is always repeating itself.

Right. We could have Kristalnacht at Islamic mosques in America.

 

[Si modo]

What part of not understanding that Shariah Law in the West is no threat do you not get?

We are protected from laws of religious extremism by our secular laws.

It doesn't matter.

We're talking about ISLAM - the title of your thread. The USA is not bound by any laws of ISLAM.

But, if we practice your "logic", the serial killer, Fred West, is not evil because he is not American.

You will bend over backwards to apologize for evil, unless it is by Jews or Christians, then you broad brush.

 

[bodecea]

The crusade against Shariah undermines American democracy, ignores our country’s successful history of religious tolerance and assimilation, and creates a dangerous divide between America and its fastest-growing religious minority.

The suggestion that Shariah threatens American security is disturbingly reminiscent of the accusation, in 19th-century Europe, that Jewish religious law was seditious. In 1807, Napoleon convened an assembly of rabbinic authorities to address the question of whether Jewish law prevented Jews from being loyal citizens of the republic. (They said that it did not.)

Fear that Jewish law bred disloyalty was not limited to political elites; leading European philosophers also entertained the idea. Kant argued that the particularistic nature of “Jewish legislation” made Jews “hostile to all other peoples.” And Hegel contended that Jewish dietary rules and other Mosaic laws barred Jews from identifying with their fellow Prussians and called into question their ability to be civil servants.

The German philosopher Bruno Bauer offered Jews a bargain: renounce Jewish law and be granted full legal rights. He insisted that, otherwise, laws prohibiting work on the Sabbath made it impossible for Jews to be true citizens. (Bauer conveniently ignored the fact that many fully observant Jews violated the Sabbath to fight in the Prussian wars against Napoleon.)

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/03/opinion/dont-fear-islamic-law-in-america.html

History is always repeating itself.

Right. We could have Kristalnacht at Islamic mosques in America.

I certainly hope not.

 

[Sky Dancer]

History is always repeating itself.

Right. We could have Kristalnacht at Islamic mosques in America.

I certainly hope not.

Hate crimes against Muslims in America have increased significantly since 9/11

 

[Si modo]

Right. We could have Kristalnacht at Islamic mosques in America.

I certainly hope not.

Hate crimes against Muslims in America have increased significantly since 9/11

Jews, lesbians, gay men and Caucasians, among others, are all more frequently the target of hate crimes, FBI records show.​

Hate crimes against Muslims are rare

 

[Sky Dancer]

I certainly hope not.

Hate crimes against Muslims in America have increased significantly since 9/11

Jews, lesbians, gay men and Caucasians, among others, are all more frequently the target of hate crimes, FBI records show.​

Hate crimes against Muslims are rare

So? Muslims are also targeted.

Here is a ten year European study on the increase of hate crime against Muslims in Europe. It's 224 pages long, LOL.
http://studies.aljazeera.net/Resour...nd Anti Muslim Hate Crime_UK Case Studies.pdf

 

[Sky Dancer]

The Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR) is an American Muslim civil rights organization. Their annual report on anti-Muslim incidents is the most thorough of its kind. According to the most recent report released in May 2005 entitled "Unequal Protection: The Status of Muslim Civil Rights in the United States," anti-Muslim hate crimes rose by more than 50 percent between 2003 to 2004; while 93 anti-Muslim hate crimes were recorded in 2003, 141 hate crimes were recorded in 2004. The study cites 1,552 cases of anti-Muslim occurrences including violence, discrimination, and harassment. Approximately 225 of these cases involved religious discrimination, such as a city's opposition to a mosque. 196 cases involved discrimination in the workplace and 190 cases cited verbal harassment. The report hypothesizes that the increase in anti-Muslim sentiment can be attributed to websites and radio programs whose content propagates feelings of hate.
Research Report

 

[Liability]

Oh, and in cae I wasn't clear. It's also EVIL.

terrorism is evil. People who abuse religious tenets to do harm are evil.


Discuss.

Islam has some basic tenets which are sick, evil, biased, bigoted, demented and evil.

Mohammed raped a little girl.

Some fucking religion.

 

[007]

The same people who condemn Islam as evil, do the same thing to other non-christian religions and atheists.

Here's an idea skydreamer... why don't you go vacation in Iran and skyflirt around making it known you're a homo babe looking for some taco to lick, and then tell us how PEACEFUL islam is when they bury you up to your waist and STONE YOU TO DEATH.

Sometimes I think you start these pathetically ignorant threads and then argue in favor of the indefensible just for attention.

 

[bodecea]

The same people who condemn Islam as evil, do the same thing to other non-christian religions and atheists.

Here's an idea skydreamer... why don't you go vacation in Iran and skyflirt around making it known you're a homo babe looking for some taco to lick, and then tell us how PEACEFUL islam is when they bury you up to your waist and STONE YOU TO DEATH.

Sometimes I think you start these pathetically ignorant threads and then argue in favor of the indefensible just for attention.

But you prove the point that it is not the religion who would do that to Skydreamer...but PEOPLE using that religion as an excuse to kill Skydreamer.