"Isis is not islamic" "Iran is islamic" Obama says so

[High_Gravity]

Funny Obama seems to really like the Iranian Shiah

They hate us!

 

[ChrisL]

I don't know much about the Jewish religion, but I know with Christians, the New Testament denounces violence with Christ's "turn the other cheek" philosophies. He was FAR from as violent as the prophet Muhammad.

Jewish religion is for Jews we don't seek converts

That's not what I was saying at all. I was just saying that Jesus Christ and the NT teaches Christians to turn to the other cheek and not to resort to violence.

 

[Carib Gyal]

Obama, like Tom Hagen, is not a war time consigliere.

 

[LeftofLeft]

ISIS is an Islamic group, why are people trying so hard to say their not?

I might be playing the Devil's advocate here but what I think they are saying is that these types of incidents are not in line with Islamic teachings thus even if they do claim to be doing it in the name of Allah they misrepresent the religion.

Isn't that what Christians say about those who bomb abortion clinics?

Now the question is, is there a parallel considering ALMOST all the violence in the world has one common denominator, Islam. Or those who claim to be Muslims. So what does people like Obama do? Throw out the whole of the Muslim community or try and isolate the terrorists as something other then Muslims?

My opinion, they ignore the threat that comes from Islam. Whether it is the majority of Muslims or not there is something rotten in the Muslim apple basket. Too many Imams preaching Jihad. Too many Muslims rioting and killing over a video trailer, or allegedly rioting. Too many Muslims getting violent over a satirical cartoon. Too many, too many for the connection to Islam to be ignored. If this were an isolated incident, like abortion bombing, then it could be written off as a rouge incident. But considering the amount of violence in the world and the connecting religion it is hard to just write it off.

Whens the last time an abortion clinic was bombed? Christians always call out their own who go batshit crazy and do stupid things, Muslims not so much. ISIS has support from Muslims all over the globe!

Further, one of the justifications muslims and the Left provide for Muslims not stepping up to call out their own is because they are afraid. So, if you are afraid of calling out those that decide to hijack your Religion and commit terrorist acts, then your religion has been hijacked and the extremists speak for you because you let them or you have surrendered to them.

 

[Katzndogz]

On what authority does obumble speak for islam?

 

[ChrisL]

ISIS is an Islamic group, why are people trying so hard to say their not?

I might be playing the Devil's advocate here but what I think they are saying is that these types of incidents are not in line with Islamic teachings thus even if they do claim to be doing it in the name of Allah they misrepresent the religion.

Isn't that what Christians say about those who bomb abortion clinics?

Now the question is, is there a parallel considering ALMOST all the violence in the world has one common denominator, Islam. Or those who claim to be Muslims. So what does people like Obama do? Throw out the whole of the Muslim community or try and isolate the terrorists as something other then Muslims?

My opinion, they ignore the threat that comes from Islam. Whether it is the majority of Muslims or not there is something rotten in the Muslim apple basket. Too many Imams preaching Jihad. Too many Muslims rioting and killing over a video trailer, or allegedly rioting. Too many Muslims getting violent over a satirical cartoon. Too many, too many for the connection to Islam to be ignored. If this were an isolated incident, like abortion bombing, then it could be written off as a rouge incident. But considering the amount of violence in the world and the connecting religion it is hard to just write it off.

Whens the last time an abortion clinic was bombed? Christians always call out their own who go batshit crazy and do stupid things, Muslims not so much. ISIS has support from Muslims all over the globe!

Further, one of the justifications muslims and the Left provide for Muslims not stepping up to call out their own is because they are afraid. So, if you are afraid of calling out those that decide to hijack your Religion and commit terrorist acts, then your religion has been hijacked and the extremists speak for you because you let them or you have surrendered to them.

There are just so many things happening, all over the world where ever there are segregated "Muslim" type communities, it seems. I have to wonder how long before attacks like those in Paris start happening here on a regular basis?

It has to be an eye opener to people to realize that the prevalent religion in the ME is Islam, and that everywhere it is prominent there seem to be problems with terrorists, and we don't hear about many attacks that happen every day!

 

[ChrisL]

Funny Obama seems to really like the Iranian Shiah

They hate us!

Get in line!

 

[Jroc]

On what authority does obumble speak for islam?

It might come from his islamic education as a boy...He knows these things?

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Jewish religion is for Jews we don't seek converts

I'm always amazed when the stupid apologists for Islam try to pretend the three Abrahamic religions are the same. If Jews practiced the same principles as Muslims, there would be many billion Jews in the world today. After all, you folks had a 2500 year head start on Islam.

Judaism -- does not seek converts, and it takes extreme effort to do do. No reprisals against those who leave the faith, while non religious Jews are still accepted as Jews. .

Christianity -- seeks to spread the good word, and accepts anybody. Easy to join, but considers those who leave to have fallen from the right path.

Islam -- spreads through violence and intimidation, actively seeking to convert by any means necessary. Supports killing those who leave.

These are the same, are they?

 

[ChrisL]

Jewish religion is for Jews we don't seek converts

I'm always amazed when the stupid apologists for Islam try to pretend the three Abrahamic religions are the same. If Jews practiced the same principles as Muslims, there would be many billion Jews in the world today. After all, you folks had a 2500 year head start on Islam.

Judaism -- does not seek converts, and it takes extreme effort to do do. No reprisals against those who leave the faith, while non religious Jews are still accepted as Jews. .

Christianity -- seeks to spread the good word, and accepts anybody. Easy to join, but considers those who leave to have fallen from the right path.

Islam -- spreads through violence and intimidation, actively seeking to convert by any means necessary. Supports killing those who leave.

These are the same, are they?

Exactly! They all seem to discourage violence, except for Islam. It's also a lot to do with the culture and how well educated the citizens might be. Obviously a lot of the Middle Eastern countries' leaders want to keep their people angry and ignorant. That way, the leaders can blame the "infidels" for all the things they do and for making their own people suffer. It keeps attention off of them.

 

[Manonthestreet]

Now does this qual as "magical thinking"

 

[aaronleland]

ISIS is an Islamic group, why are people trying so hard to say their not?

It's spelled "they're". Not "their".

Sorry. I couldn't dispute your point, so I attacked your spelling. Take that!

 

[Menerva Lindsen]

Obama is a stupid muzlim who doesn't know the differences between Shia and Sunni Islam. To believe him means to become a dumb like him. The most dangerous radical islamist is Obbie himself.

 

[Jroc]

Obama is a fool who thinks he can work with these muslim nutjobs. Make deals with the mullahs? What a joke they laugh at the idiot

 

[ChrisL]

Obama is a fool who thinks he can work with these muslim nutjobs. Make deals with the mullahs? What a joke they laugh at the idiot

I'm sure that they do. I'm sure that these men look at Obama as being weak.

 

[Jroc]

There's no just thing as radical islam in Obama's mind

White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest announced in a written statement today that President Obama will host a "Summit on Countering Violent Extremism"--not radical Muslim terrorrism--on Feb. 18 and that the event will be held "in light of recent, tragic attacks in Ottawa, Sydney and Paris."


The statement said one "theme" of the summit would be "religious leader engagement," but made no mention of radical Islamic terrorism. It also made reference to "foreign terrorist fighter recruitment" generically, but made no specific mention of radical Islamic terrorist groups recruting fighters in Western nations.

Here is the text of the White House statement:

"On February 18, 2015, the White House will host a Summit on Countering Violent Extremism to highlight domestic and international efforts to prevent violent extremists and their supporters from radicalizing, recruiting, or inspiring individuals or groups in the United States and abroad to commit acts of violence, efforts made even more imperative in light of recent, tragic attacks in Ottawa, Sydney, and Paris. This summit will build on the strategy the White House released in August of 2011, Empowering Local Partners to Prevent Violent Extremism in the United States, the first national strategy to prevent violent extremism domestically.

Obama Will Hold Summit on Countering Violent Extremism --Not Radical Muslim Terrorism CNS News

 

[irosie91]

In memory of my freshman COMP. teacher-----I will state----
Obama would have never passed that course. The prof.
despised vagaries and euphemism and the passive tense

 

[ChrisL]

There's no just thing as radical islam in Obama's mind

White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest announced in a written statement today that President Obama will host a "Summit on Countering Violent Extremism"--not radical Muslim terrorrism--on Feb. 18 and that the event will be held "in light of recent, tragic attacks in Ottawa, Sydney and Paris."


The statement said one "theme" of the summit would be "religious leader engagement," but made no mention of radical Islamic terrorism. It also made reference to "foreign terrorist fighter recruitment" generically, but made no specific mention of radical Islamic terrorist groups recruting fighters in Western nations.

Here is the text of the White House statement:

"On February 18, 2015, the White House will host a Summit on Countering Violent Extremism to highlight domestic and international efforts to prevent violent extremists and their supporters from radicalizing, recruiting, or inspiring individuals or groups in the United States and abroad to commit acts of violence, efforts made even more imperative in light of recent, tragic attacks in Ottawa, Sydney, and Paris. This summit will build on the strategy the White House released in August of 2011, Empowering Local Partners to Prevent Violent Extremism in the United States, the first national strategy to prevent violent extremism domestically.

Obama Will Hold Summit on Countering Violent Extremism --Not Radical Muslim Terrorism CNS News

It's so stupid to turn a blind eye to it. It's a BIG problem in the world today! Why do liberals want to ignore the problem? Just so they don't offend some effing Muslims? Who the eff cares? IMO, anyone who would take part in such a "religion" must be kind of nut to begin with anyways.

 

[Jroc]

BAGHDAD (AP) — In the eyes of most Iraqis, their country's best ally in the war against the Islamic State group is not the United States and the coalition air campaign against the militants. It's Iran, which is credited with stopping the extremists' march on Baghdad.

Shiite, non-Arab Iran has effectively taken charge of Iraq's defense against the Sunni radical group, meeting the Iraqi government's need for immediate help on the ground.

Two to three Iranian military aircraft a day land at Baghdad airport, bringing in weapons and ammunition. Iran's most potent military force and best known general — the Revolutionary Guard's elite Quds Force and its commander Gen. Ghasem Soleimani — are organizing Iraqi forces and have become the de facto leaders of Iraqi Shiite militias that are the backbone of the fight. Iran carried out airstrikes to help push militants from an Iraqi province on its border.

The result is that Tehran's influence in Iraq, already high since U.S. forces left at the end of 2011, has grown to an unprecedented level.

Airstrikes by the U.S.-led coalition have helped push back the militants in parts of the north, including breaking a siege of a Shiite town. But many Iraqis believe the Americans mainly want to help the Kurds. Airstrikes helped Kurdish forces stop extremists threatening the capital of the Kurdish autonomous zone, Irbil, in August. But even that feat is accorded by many Iraqis to a timely airlift of Iranian arms to the Kurds.

The meltdown of Iraq's military in the face of the extremists' summer blitz across much of northern and western Iraq gave Iran the opportunity to step in. A flood of Shiite volunteers joined the fight to fill the void, bolstering the ranks of Shiite militias already allied with Iran.

Those militias have now been more or less integrated into Iraq's official security apparatus, an Iraqi government official said, calling this the Islamic State group's "biggest gift" to Tehran.

"Iran's hold on Iraq grows tighter and faster every day," he said, speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss the sensitive subject.

Over the past year, Iran sold Iraq nearly $10 billion worth of weapons and hardware, mostly weapons for urban warfare like assault rifles, heavy machine-guns and rocket launchers, he said. The daily stream of Iranian cargo planes bringing weapons to Baghdad was confirmed at a news conference by a former Shiite militia leader, Jamal Jaafar. Better known by his alias Abu Mahdi al-Mohandis, Jaafar is second in command of the recently created state agency in charge of volunteer fighters.

Some Sunnis are clearly worried. Sunni lawmaker Mohammed al-Karbuly said the United States must increase its support of Iraq against the extremists in order to reduce Iran's influence.

Iran eclipses US as Iraq s ally in fight against militants

 

[irosie91]

BAGHDAD (AP) — In the eyes of most Iraqis, their country's best ally in the war against the Islamic State group is not the United States and the coalition air campaign against the militants. It's Iran, which is credited with stopping the extremists' march on Baghdad.

Shiite, non-Arab Iran has effectively taken charge of Iraq's defense against the Sunni radical group, meeting the Iraqi government's need for immediate help on the ground.

Two to three Iranian military aircraft a day land at Baghdad airport, bringing in weapons and ammunition. Iran's most potent military force and best known general — the Revolutionary Guard's elite Quds Force and its commander Gen. Ghasem Soleimani — are organizing Iraqi forces and have become the de facto leaders of Iraqi Shiite militias that are the backbone of the fight. Iran carried out airstrikes to help push militants from an Iraqi province on its border.

The result is that Tehran's influence in Iraq, already high since U.S. forces left at the end of 2011, has grown to an unprecedented level.

Airstrikes by the U.S.-led coalition have helped push back the militants in parts of the north, including breaking a siege of a Shiite town. But many Iraqis believe the Americans mainly want to help the Kurds. Airstrikes helped Kurdish forces stop extremists threatening the capital of the Kurdish autonomous zone, Irbil, in August. But even that feat is accorded by many Iraqis to a timely airlift of Iranian arms to the Kurds.

The meltdown of Iraq's military in the face of the extremists' summer blitz across much of northern and western Iraq gave Iran the opportunity to step in. A flood of Shiite volunteers joined the fight to fill the void, bolstering the ranks of Shiite militias already allied with Iran.

Those militias have now been more or less integrated into Iraq's official security apparatus, an Iraqi government official said, calling this the Islamic State group's "biggest gift" to Tehran.

"Iran's hold on Iraq grows tighter and faster every day," he said, speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss the sensitive subject.

Over the past year, Iran sold Iraq nearly $10 billion worth of weapons and hardware, mostly weapons for urban warfare like assault rifles, heavy machine-guns and rocket launchers, he said. The daily stream of Iranian cargo planes bringing weapons to Baghdad was confirmed at a news conference by a former Shiite militia leader, Jamal Jaafar. Better known by his alias Abu Mahdi al-Mohandis, Jaafar is second in command of the recently created state agency in charge of volunteer fighters.

Some Sunnis are clearly worried. Sunni lawmaker Mohammed al-Karbuly said the United States must increase its support of Iraq against the extremists in order to reduce Iran's influence.

Iran eclipses US as Iraq s ally in fight against militants

I would not call Iran --Iraq's ally. I would not call Iran an actual ally of any sunni groups who reject the Sunni Caliphate
jerk bigbadbaghdaddy------they all just have a common cause------which is--- GET RID OF SUNNI POWER and make it a SHIITE thing. They are allies like Italy and Germany were allies -----they actually hate each other.
The most important bulwarks against the stink of both
Shiite shit and Sunni caliphate shit are 1) SUNNI SAUDI
ARABIA. ------Saudi Arabia's need to RULE, 2) and the
hatred between sunnis and Shiites. 3) Of course their mutual convenient cause is KILL DA JOOOOOS ---like adolf---it's all they have in any attempt to exert a common effort. Erdogan was so DESPERATE yesterday----he tried
to garner popular support by a silly verbal attack on Israel---
whilst knee deep JIHADIST BLOOD. poor guy
in at any time or in any direction. ------Be patient