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Bear with me here on this one.
Most of the people who use "Teabagger" in a negative way to describe tea party protesters typically also claim its a white conservative movement in the country.
So based on the fact that it is hurtful speech directed at a people who are looked at as white, conservative, and angry at the govt is calling them "Teabaggers" hatespeach akin to other derogatory words used for various groups of people.
The tea party is also considered a specific social group so it could come under that classification also.
hate speech - Legal Definition
Speech not protected by the First Amendment, because it is intended to foster hatred against individuals or groups based on race, religion, gender, sexual preference, place of national origin, or other improper classification.
hate speech: Definition from Answers.com
Bigoted speech attacking or disparaging a social or ethnic group or a member of such a group.
Hate speech - Definition
is a controversial term for speech intended to degrade, intimidate, or incite violence or prejudicial action against someone based on their race, ethnicity, national origin, religion, sexual orientation, or disability. The term covers written as well as oral communication.
It sure sounds like it qualifies as hate speech so I may have to watch myself with that term in the future.
Hmmm..... I hadn't heard any government officials refer to the Tea Party members as Teabaggers. The only people I've heard refer to them that way are regular citizens who don't hold any political office (elected or appointed).
Hmmm..... I hadn't heard any government officials refer to the Tea Party members as Teabaggers. The only people I've heard refer to them that way are regular citizens who don't hold any political office (elected or appointed).
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvpQ6WcCO9M&feature=player_embedded]YouTube - Rep. Maxine Waters Still Employing Teabagger Double Entendre[/ame]
I'm not a big fan of the whole "laws on speech" idea myself. I find it to be a stick in the eye of the first ammendment.
Considering that we do have laws about it I was just curious if people felt this type of derogatory terminology fit under the description of the hate speech laws.
Semantics are fun for me.
how can a descriptive term for people who hang tea bags from their clothing be hate speech?
Bear with me here on this one.
Most of the people who use "Teabagger" in a negative way to describe tea party protesters typically also claim its a white conservative movement in the country.
So based on the fact that it is hurtful speech directed at a people who are looked at as white, conservative, and angry at the govt is calling them "Teabaggers" hatespeach akin to other derogatory words used for various groups of people.
The tea party is also considered a specific social group so it could come under that classification also....
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It sure sounds like it qualifies as hate speech so I may have to watch myself with that term in the future.
how can a descriptive term for people who hang tea bags from their clothing be hate speech?
ask your hero maddow and her fuctard friend olberman..
I'm not a big fan of the whole "laws on speech" idea myself. I find it to be a stick in the eye of the first ammendment.
Considering that we do have laws about it I was just curious if people felt this type of derogatory terminology fit under the description of the hate speech laws.
Semantics are fun for me.
really? I didn't know Teabagger was a derogatory label. I thought conservatives where proud to use the Tea Party union label.
how can a descriptive term for people who hang tea bags from their clothing be hate speech?
ask your hero maddow and her fuctard friend olberman..
off your meds today, honey?
Is not motive and intent a big part of hate speech (and hate crimes in general)?
If so, then of course the term qualifies. Those that use it are more often than not motivated by their hatred towards those they brand with the label.
That said, I'm with boedi. I think the whole concept of hate speech and hate crimes is a bunch of anti-American, anti-First Amendment bull shit.
Is not motive and intent a big part of hate speech (and hate crimes in general)?
If so, then of course the term qualifies. Those that use it are more often than not motivated by their hatred towards those they brand with the label.
That said, I'm with boedi. I think the whole concept of hate speech and hate crimes is a bunch of anti-American, anti-First Amendment bull shit.
Is not motive and intent a big part of hate speech (and hate crimes in general)?
If so, then of course the term qualifies. Those that use it are more often than not motivated by their hatred towards those they brand with the label.
That said, I'm with boedi. I think the whole concept of hate speech and hate crimes is a bunch of anti-American, anti-First Amendment bull shit.
AMEN to that man. I had to go back several pages to find a sane post in here. Its the intent thing that creates the "hate speech"
I've already said the same a handful of times but it doesn't help the wingnuts in full defense mode here so they ignore that part of what I said, i believe I also stated early on I was playing with semantics once again as I tend to do on the forum
Bear with me here on this one.
Most of the people who use "Teabagger" in a negative way to describe tea party protesters typically also claim its a white conservative movement in the country.
So based on the fact that it is hurtful speech directed at a people who are looked at as white, conservative, and angry at the govt is calling them "Teabaggers" hatespeach akin to other derogatory words used for various groups of people.
The tea party is also considered a specific social group so it could come under that classification also....
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It sure sounds like it qualifies as hate speech so I may have to watch myself with that term in the future.
I suppose if you buy this line of reasoning, being called a liberal, or a a and leftist, or a socialist by conservative haters is tantamount to hate speech.
I doubt very much you like playing with semantic meanings as much as you like playing with yourself in a classroom (USMB) full of morons.
Is not motive and intent a big part of hate speech (and hate crimes in general)?
If so, then of course the term qualifies. Those that use it are more often than not motivated by their hatred towards those they brand with the label.
That said, I'm with boedi. I think the whole concept of hate speech and hate crimes is a bunch of anti-American, anti-First Amendment bull shit.
fuckin' idjit post.
like I told the other one...
Using this line of reasoning you'd agree that neocon, liberal, leftie and socialist or commies qualifies.
Bear with me here on this one.
Most of the people who use "Teabagger" in a negative way to describe tea party protesters typically also claim its a white conservative movement in the country.
So based on the fact that it is hurtful speech directed at a people who are looked at as white, conservative, and angry at the govt is calling them "Teabaggers" hatespeach akin to other derogatory words used for various groups of people.
The tea party is also considered a specific social group so it could come under that classification also.
hate speech - Legal Definition
Speech not protected by the First Amendment, because it is intended to foster hatred against individuals or groups based on race, religion, gender, sexual preference, place of national origin, or other improper classification.
hate speech: Definition from Answers.com
Bigoted speech attacking or disparaging a social or ethnic group or a member of such a group.
Hate speech - Definition
is a controversial term for speech intended to degrade, intimidate, or incite violence or prejudicial action against someone based on their race, ethnicity, national origin, religion, sexual orientation, or disability. The term covers written as well as oral communication.
It sure sounds like it qualifies as hate speech so I may have to watch myself with that term in the future.
The term "tea bagger" is demeaning and hateful in and of itself. When the leftwingfuckwads get scared, they use the media to vilify. It would take actual balls to get in someone's face, look them in the eye and express an opinion.
