Is Russia a threat to Western Europa and the U.S.?

[zaangalewa]

luiza

Russian superidiot and slave of Putin, what do you expect from your never ending "fake news" comments? That you are able to to believe one day into your own superbullshit from Putins grace?

 

[zaangalewa]

Well that excludes the US because we don't have a Democracy. We are a Banana Republic

How much do cost bananas in the USA?

ruled by Leftest thugs that gained power through stolen elections.

 

[luiza]

Is Russia a threat to Western Europa and the U.S.?​

I cannot imagine that Dear Uncle fears the EU as it is near broke and contains no statespersons of any serious consequence or apparent ability .
As long as it can be kept on a tight leash through availability and prices of natural resources , it poses no clear threats .
All mouth and no effective actions .

The US and UK are different matters and I am sure that Mr Putin will aim to break both financially and economically .
Neither have anything that is of the slightest interest territorially but they must be broken in order for an expanded BRICS to advance its interests and control .
One way might be to wreck the US via conflict in the ME, and the preliminaries to such a possible scenario are being played out right now .
If the US is stupid enough to be dragged into an escalated conflict they will be once more humiliated but this time the Dollar could come tumbling down with the US moving into colossal recession .

Russia is not mobilising to 1.5 million for no well constructed reasons and with the Ukraine now a half submerged wreck , moving forces elsewhere and on a huge scale could be comparatively easy .
Particularly if they have open or covert OPEC support .

 

[zaangalewa]

We're supposed to believe that America cares about the UKrainian people.

Over 500,000 ukrainian soldiers have been lost and half the population has left and have no intention of going back.

And Russia offered a peace that the Ukrainians were happy to accept.

Then the US assured the Ukraine that they could win a war against Russia!!

Sorry: But why says someone such a totally weird stupid bullshit? What do you expect when you say so? Russia attacks Europe - as did do once the Persians, the Mongols and the Osmans. What had happened with the Persians, the Mongols and the Osmans? What will happen with Russia?

 

[zaangalewa]

Is Russia a threat to Western Europa and the U.S.?​

I cannot imagine that Dear Uncle fears the EU as it is near broke and contains no statespersons of any serious consequence or apparent ability .
As long as it can be kept on a tight leash through availability and prices of natural resources , it poses no clear threats .
All mouth and no effective actions .

The US and UK are different matters and I am sure that Mr Putin will aim to break both financially and economically .
Neither have anything that is of the slightest interest territorially but they must be broken in order for an expanded BRICS to advance its interests and control .
One way might be to wreck the US via conflict in the ME, and the preliminaries to such a possible scenario are being played out right now .
If the US is stupid enough to be dragged into an escalated conflict they will be once more humiliated but this time the Dollar could come tumbling down with the US moving into colossal recession .

Russia is not mobilising to 1.5 million for no well constructed reasons and with the Ukraine now a half submerged wreck , moving forces elsewhere and on a huge scale could be comparatively easy .
Particularly if they have open or covert OPEC support .

Russian, leave the Ukraine with all of your soldiers. Yesterday.

 

[luiza]

Russian, leave the Ukraine with all of your soldiers. Yesterday.

Are you a Bavarian teapot masquerading as a Germ ?

I can handle you either being someone just out of school but wanting to learn , or , simply someone who loves swimming but dare not leave the shallow end .

But to endure Fee Speech from the Clueless day after day is so annoying . You prove by example that a vacuum can still be very noisy .

 

[zaangalewa]

Are you a Bavarian teapot masquerading as a Germ ?

Which tea? Hops blossom tea? When we don't throw with our teapots then we serve it this way:

I can handle you either being someone just out of school but wanting to learn , or , simply someone who loves swimming but dare not leave the shallow end .

But to endure Fee Speech from the Clueless day after day is so annoying . You prove by example that a vacuum can still be very noisy .

By the way: Just a moment ago I had a wonderful idea: Why not to leave the Ukraine with all of your soldiers and to let everyone live in peace? If you do so you'll get a pot of hops blossom tea for only about 15 Euro in the Oktoberfest in Munich in 2024 - without a lion who is serving it.

 

[zaangalewa]

Oh by the way luiza

Did you know that the three legions which the Romans lost in Germany have to do with Christmas? Varus had been before governor in Israel - and it is said his terror against the population there is the reality behind the myth of the killing of the children in Israel after the birth of Jesus. Rome payed the bill with three legions - and Varus lost his life.

 

[luiza]

Which tea? Hops blossom tea? When we don't throw with our teapots then we serve it this way:

Every one of those Leopard tanks was destroyed by the Russian Freedom Fighters .
Poor shoddy Germ workmanship .

Same thing now found in the car trade .
All of the old fans within the trade will now only buy Japanese .

Germ Banks going under , no energy and car trade decreasing .You need a new Uncle Adolf to re-ignite National Socialism .
You need Dear Uncle P for a few years ., He remembers Germ Land well from his days in Dresden . When he converted Angela and she became his biggest ever trophy .

 

[Dissident]

Russian, leave the Ukraine with all of your soldiers. Yesterday.

There is a strange vicious circle.

There are hundreds or maybe already thousands of threads about Ukraine on this forum.

Please see some examples of such threads at the end of my post.

But American users say that they don’t want to speak about Ukraine because the main thing is that Russia is a threat to Western Europa and the U.S.

OK, this thread deals with the question: Is Russia really a threat to Western Europa or the U.S.?

However, American users don’t want to speak about the subject of this thread; they want to speak about Ukraine in this thread instead.

What have Ukrainians been fighting for since 2013?
Was there a threat for ethnic Russians in February 2014 in Ukraine (Crimean question)?
Has the Russian Special Military Operation in Ukraine been provoked?
What kind of a country is modern Ukraine?

 

[Baron]

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And in this article, I am going to consider the question: Is Russia really a threat to Western Europa or the U.S.?
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Your question is wrong!
Who will survive, NATO countries or Russia & China is the right question

 

[alang1216]

Is Russia a threat to Western Europa and the U.S.?​

I cannot imagine that Dear Uncle fears the EU as it is near broke and contains no statespersons of any serious consequence or apparent ability .
As long as it can be kept on a tight leash through availability and prices of natural resources , it poses no clear threats .
All mouth and no effective actions .

The US and UK are different matters and I am sure that Mr Putin will aim to break both financially and economically .
Neither have anything that is of the slightest interest territorially but they must be broken in order for an expanded BRICS to advance its interests and control .
One way might be to wreck the US via conflict in the ME, and the preliminaries to such a possible scenario are being played out right now .
If the US is stupid enough to be dragged into an escalated conflict they will be once more humiliated but this time the Dollar could come tumbling down with the US moving into colossal recession .

Russia is not mobilising to 1.5 million for no well constructed reasons and with the Ukraine now a half submerged wreck , moving forces elsewhere and on a huge scale could be comparatively easy .
Particularly if they have open or covert OPEC support .

Remain me what planet you're from? The EU is doing just fine, it is Russia that is struggling with an economy only the size of Texas. The US can afford its wars, no matter how stupid. We fought in Afghanistan for 10 years and we're still afloat.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Russia is a gas station with the economy of a Texas.

It can't be Ukraine.

 

[Eugene W]

We fought in Afghanistan for 10 years...

Are you sure about 10 years?

Wikipedia - War in Afghanistan (2001–2021)

 

[alang1216]

Are you sure about 10 years?

Wikipedia - War in Afghanistan (2001–2021)

My bad, we fought in Iraq for 10 years, Afghanistan for 20. We may not be smart but we are persistent. I doubt Russia or Ukraine can last 10 years, let alone 20. We'll see who cries uncle first. If the GOP manages to separate domestic from foreign policy Ukraine will out last Russia, otherwise it's a tossup.

 

[ESay]

The question in the OP doesn't have sense, basically. Because even the 'Western Europe' is a too wide term. What is it? Is it used in purely geographical sense, or in a political one (meaning countries that wasn't a part of the Soviet block).

If you ask people in say Portugal or Ireland, they would just shrug their shoulders at best. But people in Sweden and Finland likely point that as a direct threat, as long as they decided to give up their decades long neutrality and join the military alliance.

 

[zaangalewa]

Every one of those Leopard tanks was destroyed by the Russian Freedom Fighters . ...

Why do your aggressive idiots spill beer in the Ukraine? To spill beer is a sin. Don't forget to send us the Leopards back which the Russian aggressors in the Ukraine did destroy. We will repair it and give it back to the Ukrainian freedom fighters. Or much better: Leave the Ukraine with all of your soldeirs - then we could make a pop corn party and throw popcorn and honey on you instead of tar and feathers.

 

[zaangalewa]

There is a strange vicious circle.

There are hundreds or maybe already thousands of threads about Ukraine on this forum.

Please see some examples of such threads at the end of my post.

But American users say that they don’t want to speak about Ukraine because the main thing is that Russia is a threat to Western Europa and the U.S.

OK, this thread deals with the question: Is Russia really a threat to Western Europa or the U.S.?

However, American users don’t want to speak about the subject of this thread; they want to speak about Ukraine in this thread instead.

I'm a no American. The Russians have just simple to leave the Ukraine with all of their soldiers.

 

[Silver Cat]

Which tea? Hops blossom tea? When we don't throw with our teapots then we serve it this way:





By the way: Just a moment ago I had a wonderful idea: Why not to leave the Ukraine with all of your soldiers and to let everyone live in peace? If you do so you'll get a pot of hops blossom tea for only about 15 Euro in the Oktoberfest in Munich in 2024 - without a lion who is serving it.

German tanks came on the Russian soil. Highly likely, the Russian tanks will come on the German soil once again. And I think, it will make the world safer.

 

[miketx]

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In the article “What kind of a country is modern Ukraine?” I have provided some examples that situation in the sphere of rights of ethnic minorities and in the sphere of freedom of speech in Ukraine has become worse as compared with the situation before the so-called Euromaidan.

That article has been discussed on Internet forums and some American users have written that it does not matter much for them what kind of a country is modern Ukraine. In their opinion, the main thing is that Ukraine is now fighting against Russia and therefore Western Europa and the U.S. must help Ukraine because Russia – as a variant “Russia under V. Putin” is allegedly a threat to Western Europa and the U.S.

And in this article, I am going to consider the question: Is Russia really a threat to Western Europa or the U.S.?

Spoiler

I believe that many people in the West don’t know what Russia is, they don’t know when V. Putin became the President of Russia etc. Therefore, at first I am going to tell basic information about some subjects.

Till the end of 1991 Russia was a part of the Soviet Union and became an independent state only in December 1991. V. Putin was elected as the President of Russia on 26 March 2000.

If Russia or “Russia under V. Putin” had been an aggressive state, the Russian borders would have moved westwards in the period between the end of 1991 and the end of 2013; but on the map above you can see the opposite - the Russian borders did not move westwards, it were NATO borders which moved towards Russia.

Between the end of 1991 and the end of 2013 Russian army conducted two military operations abroad. In 1992 – i.e. long before V. Putin - in Transnistria which had the population of 695.7 thousand at that time and in 2008 in South Ossetia which had the population of 51.6 thousand at that time.

In the same period, between the end of 1991 and the end of 2013, the U.S. together with its allies conducted seven military operations abroad.

1994 – in Bosnia and Herzegovina which had population between 3.4 and 4.4 mil at that time.

1999 - in Yugoslavia (population of 10.7 mil at that time)

2001 – in Afghanistan (population of 19.7 mil at that time)

2003 – in Iraq (population of appr. 23.5 mil at that time)

2011 – in Libya (population of 6.4 mil at that time)

You can see that both the number of military operations of the U.S. and particularly number of people, which were affected by these operations, were much higher than the respective values of Russian military operations.

If Russia or “Russia under V. Putin” had been an aggressive state, Russia would have conducted much more military operations abroad during the first 22 years of its existence or during the first 14 years after V. Putin had become the President of Russia in 2000.

As for events, which took place after the end of 2013, I would like to tell basic information about some subjects related to these events.

At the end of 2013, a protest movement, the so-called Euromaidan began in Ukraine and at some point, the pro-Western protesters began to burn and kill during this Euromaidan; however now nobody in Ukraine can explain why they had begun to burn and kill (please see this thread).

Therefore, the Russian Government decided to accept the Crimea into the Russian Federation in March 2014; please see the thread Was there a threat for ethnic Russians in February 2014 in Ukraine (Crimean question)?

And about further development of situation you can read in the thread Has the Russian Special Military Operation in Ukraine been provoked?

So, Russia was not a threat to Western Europe and the U.S. before 2014, and it is not a threat to them now. The present crisis is caused only by events in Ukraine and therefore it does matter very much what were the reasons of these events in Ukraine, what kind of a country is modern Ukraine, etc.

Source

P.S.
I would like to draw your attention to the fact that this thread is not about Ukraine – please see the thread title.
Therefore, if you wish to write about some aspects of situation in Ukraine, please do in the respective threads whose links you find below.

What have Ukrainians been fighting for since 2013?
Was there a threat for ethnic Russians in February 2014 in Ukraine (Crimeanquestion)?
Has the Russian Special Military Operation in Ukraine been provoked?
What kind of a country is modern Ukraine?

Why are you asking us? How would we know, and if we did reply how would you know we knew, ya know?