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If you had a choice, you could be like me. I'm also born Catholic, but I don't need to believe in their myths. I don't believe in their supernatural beings. I do have faith in the words of Jesus Christ. But I don't think he's a god, or a son of god... That's ridiculous. He's just a regular guy that may or may not have said good things. We don't know if he said them, or if it was written for him many years after. I have faith in the ideal of Jesus.The Greek word for repent is "metanoia." Metanoia means to change your mind. Our thoughts, the flow of consciousness which determines our behaviors, can change. Metanoia has to do with moral activity, but goes beyond that. Jesus was teaching that we could change our mind about how we treat people. We don’t have to be unforgiving and cynical. We can change our mind about being negative. We can think positive thoughts and walk in faith instead of doubt. We can change our minds about sin. Rather than being caught in the strongholds of consistent habits of lust or selfishness, for example, we can experience freedom and selflessness. Jesus would not have told us to change unless it was possible and attainable. The Bible is full of words that speak about change. Repentance, metamorphosis, transformation, conversion, resurrection, rebirth, renewal, regeneration, healing and transfiguration.Point #6: Religion teaches that we have a choice in how we behave.
MAJOR NO. If you had a choice, it would be a faith.
Point #7: Religion teaches that actions have consequences.
Chapter 18 ExodusThe concept of subsidiarity started with Moses and is the basis for all Christian charities and organizations. Maybe you don't know what subsidiarity actually means.That's total BS. They made their religion spread based upon the opposite.Point #3: Religion gave us the concept of subsidiarity.
Maybe you don't.
per google definition:Subsidiarity is an organizing principle that matters ought to be handled by the smallest, lowest or least centralized competent authority. Political decisions should be taken at a local level if possible, rather than by a central authority.
Moses was a ruler, he was not the lowest, or least authority.
Use your own words, like I do. If you really understand it, you don't need to quote stuff. I don't need to quote anybody or anything I argue about. Until we get into ancient Mesopotamian texts falsifying your relligion, then you may demand a reference. But I will still say them in my own words. Copying and pasting a quote, is chickening out.Yes. Because I am posting from the catechism. It isn’t a religious site. Its the freaking catechism of the Catholic faith. It’s literally what we believe.Do I really have to dig it up from the previous thread? I don't want to embarrass you, but the agreement was no copy/pasting or linking to religious sites.You will have to show me where that rule is, RWS.1731 Freedom is the power, rooted in reason and will, to act or not to act, to do this or that, and so to perform deliberate actions on one's own responsibility. By free will one shapes one's own life. Human freedom is a force for growth and maturity in truth and goodness; it attains its perfection when directed toward God, our beatitude.You had that set up, didn't ya? Because it's too fast to type in response.
If you believe in a religion, you have no choices in how to behave.
If you have faith, you can.
Catechism of the Catholic Church - Man's freedom
Stop breaking the rules. No quotes. Just your own words. That was part of the rules. You continue to link and quote from others. Stop it. Just your words vs mine. If you can't handle it, then just kneel to me. I'll be nice to you...
I made a statement. You challenged it. I provided the basis for the statement FROM A RELIGIOUS SOURCE. That's how it works.
I really like your recap though. Very articulate.
You literally challenged what we believed. How else am I going to prove it to you that what I am posting is what my religion believes and teaches.
You are disputing that the concept of subsidiarity did not come from religion.Use your own words, like I do. If you really understand it, you don't need to quote stuff. I don't need to quote anybody or anything I argue about. Until we get into ancient Mesopotamian texts falsifying your relligion, then you may demand a reference. But I will still say them in my own words. Copying and pasting a quote, is chickening out.Yes. Because I am posting from the catechism. It isn’t a religious site. Its the freaking catechism of the Catholic faith. It’s literally what we believe.Do I really have to dig it up from the previous thread? I don't want to embarrass you, but the agreement was no copy/pasting or linking to religious sites.You will have to show me where that rule is, RWS.1731 Freedom is the power, rooted in reason and will, to act or not to act, to do this or that, and so to perform deliberate actions on one's own responsibility. By free will one shapes one's own life. Human freedom is a force for growth and maturity in truth and goodness; it attains its perfection when directed toward God, our beatitude.
Catechism of the Catholic Church - Man's freedom
Stop breaking the rules. No quotes. Just your own words. That was part of the rules. You continue to link and quote from others. Stop it. Just your words vs mine. If you can't handle it, then just kneel to me. I'll be nice to you...
I made a statement. You challenged it. I provided the basis for the statement FROM A RELIGIOUS SOURCE. That's how it works.
I really like your recap though. Very articulate.
You literally challenged what we believed. How else am I going to prove it to you that what I am posting is what my religion believes and teaches.
No quotes or pasting... This is invalid.RESource
Subsidiarity | Povertycure
An Explanation of the Principle of Subsidiarity
Subsidiarity: Where responsibility begins
The Catechism of the Catholic Church says of Subsidiarity –
The human person needs to live in society. Society is not for him an extraneous addition but a requirement of his nature (1879)….A society is a group of persons bound together organically by a principle of unity that goes beyond each one of them (1880)….but the human person is and ought to be the principle, the subject and the end of all social institutions. (1881)…..Excessive intervention by the state can threaten personal freedom and initiative. The teaching of the Church has elaborated the principle of subsidiarity, according to which “a community of a higher order should not interfere in the internal life of a community of a lower order, depriving the latter of its functions, but rather should support it in case of need and help to co- ordinate its activity with the activities of the rest of society, always with a view to the common good.” (1883)…..The principle of subsidiarity is opposed to all forms of collectivism. It sets limits for state intervention. It aims at harmonizing the relationships between individuals and societies. It tends toward the establishment of true international order (1885).
All you have to do is admit that religion gave us the concept of subsidiarity then.No quotes or pasting... This is invalid.RESource
Subsidiarity | Povertycure
An Explanation of the Principle of Subsidiarity
Subsidiarity: Where responsibility begins
The Catechism of the Catholic Church says of Subsidiarity –
The human person needs to live in society. Society is not for him an extraneous addition but a requirement of his nature (1879)….A society is a group of persons bound together organically by a principle of unity that goes beyond each one of them (1880)….but the human person is and ought to be the principle, the subject and the end of all social institutions. (1881)…..Excessive intervention by the state can threaten personal freedom and initiative. The teaching of the Church has elaborated the principle of subsidiarity, according to which “a community of a higher order should not interfere in the internal life of a community of a lower order, depriving the latter of its functions, but rather should support it in case of need and help to co- ordinate its activity with the activities of the rest of society, always with a view to the common good.” (1883)…..The principle of subsidiarity is opposed to all forms of collectivism. It sets limits for state intervention. It aims at harmonizing the relationships between individuals and societies. It tends toward the establishment of true international order (1885).