Is Our System of Checks and Balances Out of Whack?

[SassyIrishLass]

With the recent event of Justice Scalia's death I've been thinking about something I don't believe most people have even considered. We have a federal government split into three branches: executive, legislative, and judicial, with a set up checks and balances meant to prevent one branch from becoming too powerful. If the sudden death of one man on a court consequently throws our entire nation into turmoil maybe these checks aren't so well balanced anymore. Something to ponder.

Like RW's silly statement that one SCOTUS vacancy causes the government to grind to a halt, please explain this "nation in turmoil"?

Maybe 10% of the nation is glued to this situation, the other 90% couldn't care less, part of the reason this nation is in dire straits

That would also explain Trump's popularity.

Out of ALL the republicans that ran in this cycle Trump holds the most liberal positions and has flip flopped on them the most. Yet he leads

Think about who is spreading that.
How do you know for sure that he has done so?

Because I have literally watched Trump for years. The man is a fiscal conservative mostly but has ALWAYS held liberal positions on social issues. That is of course until he ran for president

They all flop flop and pander, they are politicians they can't help themselves

 

[PaintMyHouse]

With the recent event of Justice Scalia's death I've been thinking about something I don't believe most people have even considered. We have a federal government split into three branches: executive, legislative, and judicial, with a set up checks and balances meant to prevent one branch from becoming too powerful. If the sudden death of one man on a court consequently throws our entire nation into turmoil maybe these checks aren't so well balanced anymore. Something to ponder.

The Founding Fathers created a FREE Constitutional Republic where our rights were protected by the Constitution (1787)

Unfortunately , in the early 1900's that concept was abandoned in favor of a fascistic democracy where our rights depend on majorities or SCOTUS 5 to 4 opinions.

If we RESTORE then enforce the Constitution (1787) then

if a Socialist like Comrade Sanders gets elected the rest us do not have to be concerned because NONE of his policies will be implemented without AMENDING the Constitution.

If an anti-gunner gets elected it doesn't matter - the Constitution must be amended in order for our absolute right to bear arms to be adversely affected..

Unfortunately , the system has been corrupted , now a community organizer can be elected as president and he can act like he has the authority to regulate firearms even though the Constitution (1787) has NOT been amended to give the federal government and the president the authority to regulate firearms.

Americans are forced to attend government schools wherein they are indoctrinated to accept government pronouncements as the law of the land.

We don't live in 1789, nor did they expect us to live by the rules they created. And so ends that.

INDIVIDUAL FREEDOM, CAPITALISM , FREE MARKETS WERE SOLID RULES IN 1787 AND ARE SOLID IN 2016.

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No one has suggested that we wouldn't have that. And when women, children, and blacks were property in 1789, that was only the Good Old Days for rich white males. Times have changed, stop living in the past, they didn't...

"On similar ground it may be proved that no society can make a perpetual constitution, or even a perpetual law. The earth belongs always to the living generation. They may manage it then, and what proceeds from it, as they please, during their usufruct. They are masters too of their own persons, and consequently may govern them as they please. But persons and property make the sum of the objects of government. The constitution and the laws of their predecessors extinguished then in their natural course with those who gave them being. This could preserve that being till it ceased to be itself, and no longer. Every constitution then, and every law, naturally expires at the end of 19 years. If it be enforced longer, it is an act of force, and not of right.--It may be said that the succeeding generation exercising in fact the power of repeal, this leaves them as free as if the constitution or law has been expressly limited to 19 years only." - Thomas Jefferson to James Madison
Popular Basis of Political Authority: Thomas Jefferson to James Madison

 

[Silhouette]

With the recent event of Justice Scalia's death I've been thinking about something I don't believe most people have even considered. We have a federal government split into three branches: executive, legislative, and judicial, with a set up checks and balances meant to prevent one branch from becoming too powerful. If the sudden death of one man on a court consequently throws our entire nation into turmoil maybe these checks aren't so well balanced anymore. Something to ponder.

Yeah, and here's something else to ponder...anything new at the Whitehouse takes days minimum of paperwork to approve and set up...yet this display was lit the same evening as the Obergefell Opinion was announced. Do the math... It's clear there was no separation of powers between the Judicial and the Executive Branches behind the scenes on this Decision. I'm not making this up. This display ACTUALLY appeared on the front of the Whitehouse the evening Obergefell came down..

The equivalent would be if Exxon won a case on the Keystone Pipeline eminent domain (coming soon to SCOTUS) and that same evening the new GOP president had an Exxon logo shining on the Whitehouse... Can you imagine the uproar if such a thing happened?

The Executive and two members of the Judicial should all be impeached for arrogant hubris, flaunting improprieties and constitutional violations. Here's Justice Ginsburg performing a "gay wedding" as the question was pending before her Court.. A thing she was legally forbidden to do: (Caperton v A.T. Massey Coal 2009)..

 

[peach174]

With the recent event of Justice Scalia's death I've been thinking about something I don't believe most people have even considered. We have a federal government split into three branches: executive, legislative, and judicial, with a set up checks and balances meant to prevent one branch from becoming too powerful. If the sudden death of one man on a court consequently throws our entire nation into turmoil maybe these checks aren't so well balanced anymore. Something to ponder.

Like RW's silly statement that one SCOTUS vacancy causes the government to grind to a halt, please explain this "nation in turmoil"?

Maybe 10% of the nation is glued to this situation, the other 90% couldn't care less, part of the reason this nation is in dire straits

That would also explain Trump's popularity.

Out of ALL the republicans that ran in this cycle Trump holds the most liberal positions and has flip flopped on them the most. Yet he leads

Think about who is spreading that.
How do you know for sure that he has done so?

Because I have literally watched Trump for years. The man is a fiscal conservative mostly but has ALWAYS held liberal positions on social issues. That is of course until he ran for president

I have too.
He has some liberal positions, not all are them are liberal.
For Dems to vote for him it's needed.

 

[Contumacious]

With the recent event of Justice Scalia's death I've been thinking about something I don't believe most people have even considered. We have a federal government split into three branches: executive, legislative, and judicial, with a set up checks and balances meant to prevent one branch from becoming too powerful. If the sudden death of one man on a court consequently throws our entire nation into turmoil maybe these checks aren't so well balanced anymore. Something to ponder.

The Founding Fathers created a FREE Constitutional Republic where our rights were protected by the Constitution (1787)

Unfortunately , in the early 1900's that concept was abandoned in favor of a fascistic democracy where our rights depend on majorities or SCOTUS 5 to 4 opinions.

If we RESTORE then enforce the Constitution (1787) then

if a Socialist like Comrade Sanders gets elected the rest us do not have to be concerned because NONE of his policies will be implemented without AMENDING the Constitution.

If an anti-gunner gets elected it doesn't matter - the Constitution must be amended in order for our absolute right to bear arms to be adversely affected..

Unfortunately , the system has been corrupted , now a community organizer can be elected as president and he can act like he has the authority to regulate firearms even though the Constitution (1787) has NOT been amended to give the federal government and the president the authority to regulate firearms.

Americans are forced to attend government schools wherein they are indoctrinated to accept government pronouncements as the law of the land.

We don't live in 1789, nor did they expect us to live by the rules they created. And so ends that.

And that document allows for the growth into modern times,
It is just that we have abandoned the process and the Feds have done as they please.

The document allowed us to make what we have, and it should have been rewritten long ago. They sure as hell thought it would be.

You don't live in a banana republic, you just think you do because you don't like it.

WHAT WE HAVE NOW IS A FASCISTIC BANKRUPT WELFARE/WARFARE POLICE STATE.

ALL OF THAT IS EXTRA-CONSTITUTIONAL - NOT COVERED BY THE 1787 CONSTITUTION.

THINGS ARE SO FUCKED UP THAT AN AVOWED SOCIALIST FEELS IS SAFE TO RUN FOR ELECTIVE OFFICE.


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[Remodeling Maidiac]

Like RW's silly statement that one SCOTUS vacancy causes the government to grind to a halt, please explain this "nation in turmoil"?

Maybe 10% of the nation is glued to this situation, the other 90% couldn't care less, part of the reason this nation is in dire straits

That would also explain Trump's popularity.

Out of ALL the republicans that ran in this cycle Trump holds the most liberal positions and has flip flopped on them the most. Yet he leads

Think about who is spreading that.
How do you know for sure that he has done so?

Because I have literally watched Trump for years. The man is a fiscal conservative mostly but has ALWAYS held liberal positions on social issues. That is of course until he ran for president

They all flop flop and pander, they are politicians they can't help themselves

Being willing to give some to get some is not flip flopping. You still have your core beliefs. Trump ditched all of his social beliefs to run as a republican. The man is a fraud

 

[PaintMyHouse]

With the recent event of Justice Scalia's death I've been thinking about something I don't believe most people have even considered. We have a federal government split into three branches: executive, legislative, and judicial, with a set up checks and balances meant to prevent one branch from becoming too powerful. If the sudden death of one man on a court consequently throws our entire nation into turmoil maybe these checks aren't so well balanced anymore. Something to ponder.

The Founding Fathers created a FREE Constitutional Republic where our rights were protected by the Constitution (1787)

Unfortunately , in the early 1900's that concept was abandoned in favor of a fascistic democracy where our rights depend on majorities or SCOTUS 5 to 4 opinions.

If we RESTORE then enforce the Constitution (1787) then

if a Socialist like Comrade Sanders gets elected the rest us do not have to be concerned because NONE of his policies will be implemented without AMENDING the Constitution.

If an anti-gunner gets elected it doesn't matter - the Constitution must be amended in order for our absolute right to bear arms to be adversely affected..

Unfortunately , the system has been corrupted , now a community organizer can be elected as president and he can act like he has the authority to regulate firearms even though the Constitution (1787) has NOT been amended to give the federal government and the president the authority to regulate firearms.

Americans are forced to attend government schools wherein they are indoctrinated to accept government pronouncements as the law of the land.

We don't live in 1789, nor did they expect us to live by the rules they created. And so ends that.

And that document allows for the growth into modern times,
It is just that we have abandoned the process and the Feds have done as they please.

The document allowed us to make what we have, and it should have been rewritten long ago. They sure as hell thought it would be.

You don't live in a banana republic, you just think you do because you don't like it.

WHAT WE HAVE...

Once again, we don't live in 1789.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Like RW's silly statement that one SCOTUS vacancy causes the government to grind to a halt, please explain this "nation in turmoil"?

Maybe 10% of the nation is glued to this situation, the other 90% couldn't care less, part of the reason this nation is in dire straits

That would also explain Trump's popularity.

Out of ALL the republicans that ran in this cycle Trump holds the most liberal positions and has flip flopped on them the most. Yet he leads

Think about who is spreading that.
How do you know for sure that he has done so?

Because I have literally watched Trump for years. The man is a fiscal conservative mostly but has ALWAYS held liberal positions on social issues. That is of course until he ran for president

I have too.
He has some liberal positions, not all are them are liberal.
For Dems to vote for him it's needed.

We don't need to pander to democrats to win an election. That would be patently stupid.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Conservatives tend to blame every loss on some fundamental flaw in the system. No, you just lost.

 

[imawhosure]

With the recent event of Justice Scalia's death I've been thinking about something I don't believe most people have even considered. We have a federal government split into three branches: executive, legislative, and judicial, with a set up checks and balances meant to prevent one branch from becoming too powerful. If the sudden death of one man on a court consequently throws our entire nation into turmoil maybe these checks aren't so well balanced anymore. Something to ponder.

The Founding Fathers created a FREE Constitutional Republic where our rights were protected by the Constitution (1787)

Unfortunately , in the early 1900's that concept was abandoned in favor of a fascistic democracy where our rights depend on majorities or SCOTUS 5 to 4 opinions.

If we RESTORE then enforce the Constitution (1787) then

if a Socialist like Comrade Sanders gets elected the rest us do not have to be concerned because NONE of his policies will be implemented without AMENDING the Constitution.

If an anti-gunner gets elected it doesn't matter - the Constitution must be amended in order for our absolute right to bear arms to be adversely affected..

Unfortunately , the system has been corrupted , now a community organizer can be elected as president and he can act like he has the authority to regulate firearms even though the Constitution (1787) has NOT been amended to give the federal government and the president the authority to regulate firearms.

Americans are forced to attend government schools wherein they are indoctrinated to accept government pronouncements as the law of the land.

We don't live in 1789, nor did they expect us to live by the rules they created. And so ends that.

And that document allows for the growth into modern times,
It is just that we have abandoned the process and the Feds have done as they please.

The document allowed us to make what we have, and it should have been rewritten long ago. They sure as hell thought it would be.

You don't live in a banana republic, you just think you do because you don't like it.

Then I assume, you are for an article 5. Thanks for admitting it is a good idea-)

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Maybe 10% of the nation is glued to this situation, the other 90% couldn't care less, part of the reason this nation is in dire straits

That would also explain Trump's popularity.

Out of ALL the republicans that ran in this cycle Trump holds the most liberal positions and has flip flopped on them the most. Yet he leads

Think about who is spreading that.
How do you know for sure that he has done so?

Because I have literally watched Trump for years. The man is a fiscal conservative mostly but has ALWAYS held liberal positions on social issues. That is of course until he ran for president

I have too.
He has some liberal positions, not all are them are liberal.
For Dems to vote for him it's needed.

We don't need to pander to democrats to win an election. That would be patently stupid.

Agreed but it will be done, I was just saying it's the nature of the beast

 

[PaintMyHouse]

With the recent event of Justice Scalia's death I've been thinking about something I don't believe most people have even considered. We have a federal government split into three branches: executive, legislative, and judicial, with a set up checks and balances meant to prevent one branch from becoming too powerful. If the sudden death of one man on a court consequently throws our entire nation into turmoil maybe these checks aren't so well balanced anymore. Something to ponder.

The Founding Fathers created a FREE Constitutional Republic where our rights were protected by the Constitution (1787)

Unfortunately , in the early 1900's that concept was abandoned in favor of a fascistic democracy where our rights depend on majorities or SCOTUS 5 to 4 opinions.

If we RESTORE then enforce the Constitution (1787) then

if a Socialist like Comrade Sanders gets elected the rest us do not have to be concerned because NONE of his policies will be implemented without AMENDING the Constitution.

If an anti-gunner gets elected it doesn't matter - the Constitution must be amended in order for our absolute right to bear arms to be adversely affected..

Unfortunately , the system has been corrupted , now a community organizer can be elected as president and he can act like he has the authority to regulate firearms even though the Constitution (1787) has NOT been amended to give the federal government and the president the authority to regulate firearms.

Americans are forced to attend government schools wherein they are indoctrinated to accept government pronouncements as the law of the land.

We don't live in 1789, nor did they expect us to live by the rules they created. And so ends that.

And that document allows for the growth into modern times,
It is just that we have abandoned the process and the Feds have done as they please.

The document allowed us to make what we have, and it should have been rewritten long ago. They sure as hell thought it would be.

You don't live in a banana republic, you just think you do because you don't like it.

Then I assume, you are for an article 5. Thanks for admitting it is a good idea-)

Go for it. The last time such a thing was tried you got an all new Constitution. Good luck...

Scalia and the Article V movement

 

[NYcarbineer]

The Founding Fathers created a FREE Constitutional Republic where our rights were protected by the Constitution (1787)

Unfortunately , in the early 1900's that concept was abandoned in favor of a fascistic democracy where our rights depend on majorities or SCOTUS 5 to 4 opinions.

If we RESTORE then enforce the Constitution (1787) then

if a Socialist like Comrade Sanders gets elected the rest us do not have to be concerned because NONE of his policies will be implemented without AMENDING the Constitution.

If an anti-gunner gets elected it doesn't matter - the Constitution must be amended in order for our absolute right to bear arms to be adversely affected..

Unfortunately , the system has been corrupted , now a community organizer can be elected as president and he can act like he has the authority to regulate firearms even though the Constitution (1787) has NOT been amended to give the federal government and the president the authority to regulate firearms.

Americans are forced to attend government schools wherein they are indoctrinated to accept government pronouncements as the law of the land.

We don't live in 1789, nor did they expect us to live by the rules they created. And so ends that.

And that document allows for the growth into modern times,
It is just that we have abandoned the process and the Feds have done as they please.

The document allowed us to make what we have, and it should have been rewritten long ago. They sure as hell thought it would be.

You don't live in a banana republic, you just think you do because you don't like it.

WHAT WE HAVE...

Once again, we don't live in 1789.

Contumacious does. He's a settler.

 

[peach174]

Maybe 10% of the nation is glued to this situation, the other 90% couldn't care less, part of the reason this nation is in dire straits

That would also explain Trump's popularity.

Out of ALL the republicans that ran in this cycle Trump holds the most liberal positions and has flip flopped on them the most. Yet he leads

Think about who is spreading that.
How do you know for sure that he has done so?

Because I have literally watched Trump for years. The man is a fiscal conservative mostly but has ALWAYS held liberal positions on social issues. That is of course until he ran for president

I have too.
He has some liberal positions, not all are them are liberal.
For Dems to vote for him it's needed.

We don't need to pander to democrats to win an election. That would be patently stupid.

It is not a matter of pandering to anyone.
There was a time in this country when R's and D's voted together for our President,

 

[Contumacious]

With the recent event of Justice Scalia's death I've been thinking about something I don't believe most people have even considered. We have a federal government split into three branches: executive, legislative, and judicial, with a set up checks and balances meant to prevent one branch from becoming too powerful. If the sudden death of one man on a court consequently throws our entire nation into turmoil maybe these checks aren't so well balanced anymore. Something to ponder.

The Founding Fathers created a FREE Constitutional Republic where our rights were protected by the Constitution (1787)

Unfortunately , in the early 1900's that concept was abandoned in favor of a fascistic democracy where our rights depend on majorities or SCOTUS 5 to 4 opinions.

If we RESTORE then enforce the Constitution (1787) then

if a Socialist like Comrade Sanders gets elected the rest us do not have to be concerned because NONE of his policies will be implemented without AMENDING the Constitution.

If an anti-gunner gets elected it doesn't matter - the Constitution must be amended in order for our absolute right to bear arms to be adversely affected..

Unfortunately , the system has been corrupted , now a community organizer can be elected as president and he can act like he has the authority to regulate firearms even though the Constitution (1787) has NOT been amended to give the federal government and the president the authority to regulate firearms.

Americans are forced to attend government schools wherein they are indoctrinated to accept government pronouncements as the law of the land.

We don't live in 1789, nor did they expect us to live by the rules they created. And so ends that.

INDIVIDUAL FREEDOM, CAPITALISM , FREE MARKETS WERE SOLID RULES IN 1787 AND ARE SOLID IN 2016.

.

No one has suggested that we wouldn't have that. And when women, children, and blacks were property in 1789, that was only the Good Old Days for rich white males. Times have changed, stop living in the past, they didn't...

"On similar ground it may be proved that no society can make a perpetual constitution, or even a perpetual law. The earth belongs always to the living generation. They may manage it then, and what proceeds from it, as they please, during their usufruct. They are masters too of their own persons, and consequently may govern them as they please. But persons and property make the sum of the objects of government. The constitution and the laws of their predecessors extinguished then in their natural course with those who gave them being. This could preserve that being till it ceased to be itself, and no longer. Every constitution then, and every law, naturally expires at the end of 19 years. If it be enforced longer, it is an act of force, and not of right.--It may be said that the succeeding generation exercising in fact the power of repeal, this leaves them as free as if the constitution or law has been expressly limited to 19 years only." - Thomas Jefferson to James Madison
Popular Basis of Political Authority: Thomas Jefferson to James Madison

WHY IS INDIVIDUAL FREEDOM CAPITALISM AND THE FREE MARKETS ONLY GOOD FOR WHITE MALES?


WHERE DOES THE CONSTITUTION PROMOTES SLAVERY?

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

That would also explain Trump's popularity.

Out of ALL the republicans that ran in this cycle Trump holds the most liberal positions and has flip flopped on them the most. Yet he leads

Think about who is spreading that.
How do you know for sure that he has done so?

Because I have literally watched Trump for years. The man is a fiscal conservative mostly but has ALWAYS held liberal positions on social issues. That is of course until he ran for president

I have too.
He has some liberal positions, not all are them are liberal.
For Dems to vote for him it's needed.

We don't need to pander to democrats to win an election. That would be patently stupid.

It is not a matter of pandering to anyone.
There was a time in this country when R's and D's voted together for our President,

Those days are long gone dear.

 

[imawhosure]

The Founding Fathers created a FREE Constitutional Republic where our rights were protected by the Constitution (1787)

Unfortunately , in the early 1900's that concept was abandoned in favor of a fascistic democracy where our rights depend on majorities or SCOTUS 5 to 4 opinions.

If we RESTORE then enforce the Constitution (1787) then

if a Socialist like Comrade Sanders gets elected the rest us do not have to be concerned because NONE of his policies will be implemented without AMENDING the Constitution.

If an anti-gunner gets elected it doesn't matter - the Constitution must be amended in order for our absolute right to bear arms to be adversely affected..

Unfortunately , the system has been corrupted , now a community organizer can be elected as president and he can act like he has the authority to regulate firearms even though the Constitution (1787) has NOT been amended to give the federal government and the president the authority to regulate firearms.

Americans are forced to attend government schools wherein they are indoctrinated to accept government pronouncements as the law of the land.

We don't live in 1789, nor did they expect us to live by the rules they created. And so ends that.

And that document allows for the growth into modern times,
It is just that we have abandoned the process and the Feds have done as they please.

The document allowed us to make what we have, and it should have been rewritten long ago. They sure as hell thought it would be.

You don't live in a banana republic, you just think you do because you don't like it.

Then I assume, you are for an article 5. Thanks for admitting it is a good idea-)

Go for it. The last time such a thing was tried you got an all new Constitution. Good luck...

Oh, sorry, the way I read your post is, that we need to change the constitution because of when it was written. Hmmmph.

So then, you are for enforcing the constitution?

You are NOT for enforcing the constitution, and want to change it?

Which one is it?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

With the recent event of Justice Scalia's death I've been thinking about something I don't believe most people have even considered. We have a federal government split into three branches: executive, legislative, and judicial, with a set up checks and balances meant to prevent one branch from becoming too powerful. If the sudden death of one man on a court consequently throws our entire nation into turmoil maybe these checks aren't so well balanced anymore. Something to ponder.

The Founding Fathers created a FREE Constitutional Republic where our rights were protected by the Constitution (1787)

Unfortunately , in the early 1900's that concept was abandoned in favor of a fascistic democracy where our rights depend on majorities or SCOTUS 5 to 4 opinions.

If we RESTORE then enforce the Constitution (1787) then

if a Socialist like Comrade Sanders gets elected the rest us do not have to be concerned because NONE of his policies will be implemented without AMENDING the Constitution.

If an anti-gunner gets elected it doesn't matter - the Constitution must be amended in order for our absolute right to bear arms to be adversely affected..

Unfortunately , the system has been corrupted , now a community organizer can be elected as president and he can act like he has the authority to regulate firearms even though the Constitution (1787) has NOT been amended to give the federal government and the president the authority to regulate firearms.

Americans are forced to attend government schools wherein they are indoctrinated to accept government pronouncements as the law of the land.

We don't live in 1789, nor did they expect us to live by the rules they created. And so ends that.

INDIVIDUAL FREEDOM, CAPITALISM , FREE MARKETS WERE SOLID RULES IN 1787 AND ARE SOLID IN 2016.

.

No one has suggested that we wouldn't have that. And when women, children, and blacks were property in 1789, that was only the Good Old Days for rich white males. Times have changed, stop living in the past, they didn't...

"On similar ground it may be proved that no society can make a perpetual constitution, or even a perpetual law. The earth belongs always to the living generation. They may manage it then, and what proceeds from it, as they please, during their usufruct. They are masters too of their own persons, and consequently may govern them as they please. But persons and property make the sum of the objects of government. The constitution and the laws of their predecessors extinguished then in their natural course with those who gave them being. This could preserve that being till it ceased to be itself, and no longer. Every constitution then, and every law, naturally expires at the end of 19 years. If it be enforced longer, it is an act of force, and not of right.--It may be said that the succeeding generation exercising in fact the power of repeal, this leaves them as free as if the constitution or law has been expressly limited to 19 years only." - Thomas Jefferson to James Madison
Popular Basis of Political Authority: Thomas Jefferson to James Madison

WHY IS INDIVIDUAL FREEDOM CAPITALISM AND THE FREE MARKETS ONLY GOOD FOR WHITE MALES?


WHERE DOES THE CONSTITUTION PROMOTES SLAVERY?

When it defines some people as 3/5ths human...

 

[PaintMyHouse]

So then, you are for enforcing the constitution?

...and want to change it?

Yes...

 

[imawhosure]

So then, you are for enforcing the constitution?

...and want to change it?

Yes...

Then what is your preferred method for changing it?