Is Obama the 21st century's "Neville Chamberlain"?

[JGalt]

In his speech on ISIS today, Obama said:

"This broader challenge of countering violent extremism is not simply a military effort. Ideologies are not defeated with guns, they are defeated by better ideas and more attractive and more compelling vision. So the United States will continue to do our part by continuing to counter ISIL's hateful propaganda, especially online. We'll constantly reaffirm through words and deeds that we will never be at war with Islam. We are fighting terrorists who distort islam and its victims are mostly Muslims.

We're also going to partner with Muslim communities as they seek the prosperity and dignity they observe. And we're going to expect those communities to step up in terms of pushing back as hard as they can in conjunction with other people of good will against these hateful ideologies, particularly when it comes to what we're teaching young people."

This imbecile can't seem to grasp the concept that you can't counter radical ideology with social campaigns or flowery speeches written by recently-graduated Political Science majors. If we are faced with an enemy who is absolutely convinced that their "god" wills them to fight to the death, and that their eternal soul depends on it, does Obama think some lame-ass Facebook, #Hashtag, or YouTube campaigns are going to counter that? Does he not know anything about history?

Head in the fuckin' sand.

 

[DarkFury]

In short he IS.. The future both dark and bloody WILL prove that out.

 

[HenryBHough]

Mighty harsh on Mr. Chamberlain whose intentions were good.....

 

[IcebergSlim]

In his speech on ISIS today, Obama said:

"This broader challenge of countering violent extremism is not simply a military effort. Ideologies are not defeated with guns, they are defeated by better ideas and more attractive and more compelling vision. So the United States will continue to do our part by continuing to counter ISIL's hateful propaganda, especially online. We'll constantly reaffirm through words and deeds that we will never be at war with Islam. We are fighting terrorists who distort islam and its victims are mostly Muslims.

We're also going to partner with Muslim communities as they seek the prosperity and dignity they observe. And we're going to expect those communities to step up in terms of pushing back as hard as they can in conjunction with other people of good will against these hateful ideologies, particularly when it comes to what we're teaching young people."

This imbecile can't seem to grasp the concept that you can't counter radical ideology with social campaigns or flowery speeches written by recently-graduated Political Science majors. If we are faced with an enemy who is absolutely convinced that their "god" wills them to fight to the death, and that their eternal soul depends on it, does Obama think some lame-ass Facebook, #Hashtag, or YouTube campaigns are going to counter that? Does he not know anything about history?

Head in the fuckin' sand.

Yeah, Johnboy......we saw how well the "military modality" worked during the aughts.....

 

[jwoodie]

Chamberlain may have been arrogant, but he wasn't a smug punk

 

[NYcarbineer]

Neville Chamberlain was a conservative.

 

[IcebergSlim]

Chamberlain may have been arrogant, but he wasn't a smug punk

Don't you mean "uppity"?

 

[NYcarbineer]

In his speech on ISIS today, Obama said:

"This broader challenge of countering violent extremism is not simply a military effort. Ideologies are not defeated with guns, they are defeated by better ideas and more attractive and more compelling vision. So the United States will continue to do our part by continuing to counter ISIL's hateful propaganda, especially online. We'll constantly reaffirm through words and deeds that we will never be at war with Islam. We are fighting terrorists who distort islam and its victims are mostly Muslims.

We're also going to partner with Muslim communities as they seek the prosperity and dignity they observe. And we're going to expect those communities to step up in terms of pushing back as hard as they can in conjunction with other people of good will against these hateful ideologies, particularly when it comes to what we're teaching young people."

This imbecile can't seem to grasp the concept that you can't counter radical ideology with social campaigns or flowery speeches written by recently-graduated Political Science majors. If we are faced with an enemy who is absolutely convinced that their "god" wills them to fight to the death, and that their eternal soul depends on it, does Obama think some lame-ass Facebook, #Hashtag, or YouTube campaigns are going to counter that? Does he not know anything about history?

Head in the fuckin' sand.

The Syrians are accepting volunteers to fight ISIS. Sign up.

 

[jwoodie]

Chamberlain may have been arrogant, but he wasn't a smug punk

Don't you mean "uppity"?

No, I meant "asshole" but was trying to be polite.

 

[JGalt]

Mighty harsh on Mr. Chamberlain whose intentions were good....

In his speech on ISIS today, Obama said:

"This broader challenge of countering violent extremism is not simply a military effort. Ideologies are not defeated with guns, they are defeated by better ideas and more attractive and more compelling vision. So the United States will continue to do our part by continuing to counter ISIL's hateful propaganda, especially online. We'll constantly reaffirm through words and deeds that we will never be at war with Islam. We are fighting terrorists who distort islam and its victims are mostly Muslims.

We're also going to partner with Muslim communities as they seek the prosperity and dignity they observe. And we're going to expect those communities to step up in terms of pushing back as hard as they can in conjunction with other people of good will against these hateful ideologies, particularly when it comes to what we're teaching young people."

This imbecile can't seem to grasp the concept that you can't counter radical ideology with social campaigns or flowery speeches written by recently-graduated Political Science majors. If we are faced with an enemy who is absolutely convinced that their "god" wills them to fight to the death, and that their eternal soul depends on it, does Obama think some lame-ass Facebook, #Hashtag, or YouTube campaigns are going to counter that? Does he not know anything about history?

Head in the fuckin' sand.

Yeah, Johnboy......we saw how well the "military modality" worked during the aughts.....

Actually it worked pretty well for GW. His surge in 2007 pretty much wrecked Al-Qaeda in Iraq. They actually had free and open elections there and things would look alot different there today had Obama not undone everything those brave soldiers fought and died for. Bush was by no means fighting a war the way it should have been, thanks to the liberal pacifist meddling and the media turning the public sour. But he was way more a Commander in Chief this this sniveling pussy we have now.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Does he not know anything about history?

What he does know is what he wants to do before he is forced from office. Everything he is doing is absolutely intentional.

 

[JGalt]

In his speech on ISIS today, Obama said:

"This broader challenge of countering violent extremism is not simply a military effort. Ideologies are not defeated with guns, they are defeated by better ideas and more attractive and more compelling vision. So the United States will continue to do our part by continuing to counter ISIL's hateful propaganda, especially online. We'll constantly reaffirm through words and deeds that we will never be at war with Islam. We are fighting terrorists who distort islam and its victims are mostly Muslims.

We're also going to partner with Muslim communities as they seek the prosperity and dignity they observe. And we're going to expect those communities to step up in terms of pushing back as hard as they can in conjunction with other people of good will against these hateful ideologies, particularly when it comes to what we're teaching young people."

This imbecile can't seem to grasp the concept that you can't counter radical ideology with social campaigns or flowery speeches written by recently-graduated Political Science majors. If we are faced with an enemy who is absolutely convinced that their "god" wills them to fight to the death, and that their eternal soul depends on it, does Obama think some lame-ass Facebook, #Hashtag, or YouTube campaigns are going to counter that? Does he not know anything about history?

Head in the fuckin' sand.

The Syrians are accepting volunteers to fight ISIS. Sign up.

Seriously? I performed my service decades ago and might be a little old. Not that I wouldn't like to.

But ISIS is your baby, maybe you should be a little more proactive. After all, it was Obama's and then Secretary of State Clinton's mishandling of the war that spawned ISIS in the first place. Aren't you proud to be a Democrat?

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Chamberlain was largely responsible for Hitler's decision to move along with his "Tausendjähriges Reich".

If you want to defend him and his good intentions in light of what followed, knock yourselves out. Stupidity is an accepted form of self expression in modern society.

 

[NYcarbineer]

In his speech on ISIS today, Obama said:

"This broader challenge of countering violent extremism is not simply a military effort. Ideologies are not defeated with guns, they are defeated by better ideas and more attractive and more compelling vision. So the United States will continue to do our part by continuing to counter ISIL's hateful propaganda, especially online. We'll constantly reaffirm through words and deeds that we will never be at war with Islam. We are fighting terrorists who distort islam and its victims are mostly Muslims.

We're also going to partner with Muslim communities as they seek the prosperity and dignity they observe. And we're going to expect those communities to step up in terms of pushing back as hard as they can in conjunction with other people of good will against these hateful ideologies, particularly when it comes to what we're teaching young people."

This imbecile can't seem to grasp the concept that you can't counter radical ideology with social campaigns or flowery speeches written by recently-graduated Political Science majors. If we are faced with an enemy who is absolutely convinced that their "god" wills them to fight to the death, and that their eternal soul depends on it, does Obama think some lame-ass Facebook, #Hashtag, or YouTube campaigns are going to counter that? Does he not know anything about history?

Head in the fuckin' sand.

The Syrians are accepting volunteers to fight ISIS. Sign up.

Seriously? I performed my service decades ago and might be a little old. Not that I wouldn't like to.

But ISIS is your baby, maybe you should be a little more proactive. After all, it was Obama's and then Secretary of State Clinton's mishandling of the war that spawned ISIS in the first place. Aren't you proud to be a Democrat?

No, it wasn't. Turn off your radio.

 

[IcebergSlim]

Chamberlain may have been arrogant, but he wasn't a smug punk

Don't you mean "uppity"?

No, I meant "asshole" but was trying to be polite.

Hey, if the sheets fit....

 

[Flash Farley]

Obama has done far more damage than Chamberlain. The problem is he's the first mongrel president so he gets treated special.

 

[IcebergSlim]

Mighty harsh on Mr. Chamberlain whose intentions were good....

In his speech on ISIS today, Obama said:

"This broader challenge of countering violent extremism is not simply a military effort. Ideologies are not defeated with guns, they are defeated by better ideas and more attractive and more compelling vision. So the United States will continue to do our part by continuing to counter ISIL's hateful propaganda, especially online. We'll constantly reaffirm through words and deeds that we will never be at war with Islam. We are fighting terrorists who distort islam and its victims are mostly Muslims.

We're also going to partner with Muslim communities as they seek the prosperity and dignity they observe. And we're going to expect those communities to step up in terms of pushing back as hard as they can in conjunction with other people of good will against these hateful ideologies, particularly when it comes to what we're teaching young people."

This imbecile can't seem to grasp the concept that you can't counter radical ideology with social campaigns or flowery speeches written by recently-graduated Political Science majors. If we are faced with an enemy who is absolutely convinced that their "god" wills them to fight to the death, and that their eternal soul depends on it, does Obama think some lame-ass Facebook, #Hashtag, or YouTube campaigns are going to counter that? Does he not know anything about history?

Head in the fuckin' sand.

Yeah, Johnboy......we saw how well the "military modality" worked during the aughts.....

Actually it worked pretty well for GW. His surge in 2007 pretty much wrecked Al-Qaeda in Iraq. They actually had free and open elections there and things would look alot different there today had Obama not undone everything those brave soldiers fought and died for. Bush was by no means fighting a war the way it should have been, thanks to the liberal pacifist meddling and the media turning the public sour. But he was way more a Commander in Chief this this sniveling pussy we have now.

It's all about fiction to you, isn't it...

I suggest you avert your eyes...

But just because Official Washington embraces a narrative doesn’t make it true. Bush’s “surge” was, in reality, a dismal — an unconscionable — failure. It did not achieve its ostensible aim — the rationale Bush eventually decided to give it — namely, to buy time for Iraq’s Sunnis and Shiites to reconcile.


Rather, it did just the opposite, greatly exacerbating antagonisms between them. That result was clearly predicted before the “surge” by none other than Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, top U.S. military leaders, and even the Washington Establishment-heavy Iraq Study Group, all of which were pressing for less — not more — military involvement.


In one very important sense, however, the “surge” into Iraq was wildly successful in achieving what was almost certainly its primary aim. It bought President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney a “decent interval” so they could leave office without an explicit military defeat sullying their legacy – and for the “acceptable” price of “only” 1,000 more U.S. dead.

Resurgence of the Surge Myth Common Dreams Breaking News Views for the Progressive Community

 

[jwoodie]

Hey, if the sheets fit....

LOL, you can't even get your memes right. Don't you mean "if the shoe fits.....wear it (Mr. President)."

P.S. Not getting much play out of that race card, eh?

 

[Manonthestreet]

No. He's Benedict Arnold like.....

 

[JQPublic1]

The RIght WIng buzzards are circling again but they must be starving. There has been no political stench lately on which they could feed. So, they regurgitate a bit of Chamberlain' corpse on Obama's doorstep and soon other RW vultures join the party hoping Obama supporters will come out and fall on the slimy mess.


In addressing you birds of a feather one has t be careful, lest he/she be tainted by the fowl odors that define you and signal your presence. Standing up wind I say this:

Obama is no Chamberlain, nor is he a Jimmy Carter. I can't imagine either of those pusillanimous characters taking our Osama B. or using drones to kill militant Islamic leaders.... Even as he assures the Islamic world that he means them no harm.... heh heh heh! Smart man and he is on YOUR SIDE, idiots!