CDZ Is Las Vegas covering up the shooter's motive?

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    If he targeted the Casino itself, I could more see that this might have been related to his gaming losses. My gut tells me that it is more than that.
     
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    Well he certainly inflicted a huge loss on the casino as in they will be sued by many for millions...due to their lax security etc. The big question remains...why hasn't the las vegas police released the shooters financial info? What are they hiding?

    As previously pointed out as anyone and as anyone who has lived in Vegas well knows....many suicides there related to gambling losses....why is this not being considered by the l.v. police as a possible motive in this case?

    I would say from what I have heard at this point.....he had mental problems and possibly that was inherited from his father...his g/f has indicated he was 'mental' but was this alone enough to cause him to want to kill innocent people? I think he was consumed with hatred at this point in his life...why...well several possible factors ...he was a psychopath, a drug user ...prescribed by a doctor ...as in valium as in a drug that is known to cause some to get violent, he was a gambler and undoubtedly had lost a lot of money gambling as in the length of time he gambled...years and years and he bet huge amounts....as the laws of probability dictate that with the mathematical odds against him...he could not be anything but a loser....he had a big ego....it is possible that he deluded himself as well as his family that he was a winner...when in fact las vegas people know full well that there is nothing more expensive than comps...sure the hotels will give you free rooms, food etc. if you gamble big time ....knowing that translates into him losing big time....I think he had reached the point in his life where he realized he was a loser...but could not accept responsibility for it...he had to blame someone ...so he blamed las vegas....he became suicidal and wanted to exact revenge on vegas...that is my theory.
     
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    This was much more than a suicide.
     
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    Of course....a lot of innocent people were killed...otherwise no one would have ever heard of his suicide. Perhaps that is another angle...he wanted to be remembered...for something, for anything?

    I think his decision to go suicidal played an integral role in this horrific scenario and thus it cannot be seperated from what he did ...as in--if he were not suicidal he would not have had the inclination to slaughter innocents in some sort of misguided and heinous manner...in his desperation he let evil come in and dominate him...make no mistake what he did was pure evil...if anything is to be learned...perhaps it is that everyone at some point in their lives succumbs to some sort of evil influence...to a greater extent for some and to a lesser extent for others.

    Another thing of great importance in this case needs to be discussed.....how gambling ruins so many lives....we know that drugs ruins lives and lots of them...gambling is just another addiction but some would contend just as bad or perhaps even worse than being addicted to drugs.

    Yet Vegas wants to excuse gambling...they do not even call it gambling...they call it gaming in a clever ploy to play up the 'entertainment' component...oh what could possibly be wrong with a little entertainment...as in their public relations ploy...vegas is not the gambling mecca...but an entertainment mecca....even tried to play it up as a family town for years...that marketing adventure finally failed...but Vegas is still seen by most as a not so bad place, as a place to go to have fun etc.

    Never mind all those who have ruined their lives there, never mind how many have lost their families whilst pursuing a 'little entertainment' in Vegas, never mind all those who have completely lost everything in vegas by succumbing to the lure of easy money.

    Just one other thing...unknown to most....vegas is at the top of the list for every social evil...from alcohol abuse to teen dliquency pregnacy etc.

    Nevada Is Booming but So Are Social Problems
     
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    Las Vegas shooting: Paddock's girlfriend may be hiding something, sheriff suggests....and finally the sheriff talks about paddocks financial situation...........and it appears my theory regarding his motive may very well be correct--in fact is most likely correct....the narrative that was going around of paddock being a 'successful gambler' was b.s. as I explained...no one can gamble in Las Vegas for the length of time he did and not wind up a loser.....mathamatically impossible....now the sheriff fesses up.........Las Vegas shooting: Paddock's girlfriend may be hiding something, sheriff suggests
     
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    We may never know his motive
     
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    I posted it awhile back...in fact right after the shooting.....scroll back in time....the sheriffs latest statement re-inforces my theory.
     
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    Sounds like a very reasonable assessment. I gamble there frequently, as well as elsewhere, enough to file a W-2G every year and get audited every two years, and our little group of regulars weed out guys like that; they're very easy to spot, and any casino that claims they don't avidly cultivate and encourage them is a outright liar. Another insight about Vegas is the rampant dope use. Just pull over nearly anywhere along the highway to LA and look around on the ground; you're going to find 10 or 20 used needles rusty and old to brand new, within a 20 foot radius of where ever you pull over. You definitely do not want to stop and let your dog or kids out anywhere along that highway.
     
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    He could have just been trying to make a quick score of some kind, and sent buy money, probably for dope, to be smuggled back to the States, too, to build a bankroll back up. Gambling addiction is no different than drug addiction in what addicts will do to get money to feed their addictions.
     
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    So weeks after the Las Vegas massacre, the deadliest mass killing in the U.S. since 9/11, we are reminded:
    • On October 1, a man shot and killed 58 people at an outdoor concert in Las Vegas -- the largest mass murder in modern American history.
    • On October 3, President Donald Trump was asked about the impact of the shooting on current gun laws -- and possible future gun control measures. He said that his administration and Congress would "be talking about gun laws as time goes by." Trump was also asked whether the shooting was an act of domestic terrorism. He declined to answer.
    • On October 4, in Las Vegas, Trump was again asked about possible legislative action on guns. "We're not going to talk about that today," he responded. "We won't talk about that."
    So here we are in November, and has any legislative or executive action been taken, action that legitimately can be taken or shown to be a serious attempt to reduce the risk of another "Las Vegas" happening? Not that I think the bump stock moves that were discussed would help, but the folks who were "all about" curtailing bump stock availability haven't even followed through on that line of action. Nevermind that neither do we know why the gunman killed all those people, nor do we know why he killed himself.
     

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